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Dope Legalizers are Out of Their Gourds 
Posted by FoM on June 20, 2000 at 08:58:30 PT
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Source: WorldNetDaily
Anybody who wants to legalize drugs apparently hasn't worked with a bunch of potheads. Sheesh! It's a freaking nightmare. Jobs are messed up consistently. They just will not work; they spend entirely too much time listening to the radio and staring into space to get any work done. And the legalization of alcohol costs this country approximately $130 billion -- that's right, 130 billion dollars every single year. 
Not to mention the untold suffering of millions of people killed on the highways (more people die from alcohol related issues in one year than all the people who were killed in the Vietnam War). Now was that a good transaction for the economy? I'm sure some who are only concerned with their own self can justify anything.  Jim Skinner  Prohibition ... For The Children:   I am responding to the several e-mails you have received regarding legalizing drug use. How can any rational human being see drug use as victimless crime? It does not merely affect the user! Have you bothered to spend any time with people who have a drug addiction that also happen to have children? Have you seen the devastation to these children, the neglect of these little ones? Or, would you like to be on the highway with or have your children on the highway with these drug users? Yes, they are on the highway anyway, but there would be more on the highway, because (let's deal with the way things are, not the way they should be) too many "dumbed down citizens" see the government as the moral authority.  Barbara GalleglyTuesday June 20, 2000 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Related Articles:Not Stoked on Constitution - E-Mail Letters To The Editorhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6068.shtmlCease-Fire on Drug War? - WorldNetDailyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6058.shtml 
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on June 21, 2000 at 19:35:48 PT
Hey All!
Kanabys Welcome Aboard! I believe everyone thinks about the same on the drug war here. A very good bunch of people if I might say so myself. I keep learning more everyday.Hi Suspect Stereotype,It is possible. Anything is possible. I don't think I have met any yet but I could have. I haven't run into a lot of opposition thankfully.Peace, FoM!
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Comment #23 posted by Suspect Stereotype on June 21, 2000 at 16:49:25 PT
Didn't want to be left out...
of this big posting.soHi y'all.BTW, has anyone concidered the possibility that some of the people who respond as being so vehimently opposed to Pro-MJ news stories just might be on Barry Mc's payroll. He's spending alot of taxmoney on something.I wouldn't put it past that facist knucklehead.}:)SS
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Comment #22 posted by Kanabys on June 21, 2000 at 12:51:16 PT
You People.....
I don't have much to add here, but I'd like to say that I would be proud to be associated with any one and all of you.  I share probably 99.4% of the ideas and beliefs stated on this site and I think we need to hang in there, change will come. This WoD is like a balloon that is about to pop! I have to be an optimist, it keeps me sane. Peace to ALL of you.
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on June 21, 2000 at 07:19:13 PT
I'm Really Sorry
CongressmanSuet and DanB,I am sorry about your losses. We do care here. That's why I care so much about CannabisNews. It is all the wonderful people who share their feelings that make it complete. The responses concerning Peter's death have conformed that to me. Peace, FoM!
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Comment #20 posted by kaptinemo on June 21, 2000 at 05:05:11 PT:
My Condolences
To The Congressman and Dan B on your respective losses. I wish there was some way to relieve the pain of loss with words, but sadly, I've earned from personal experience there isn't. Only time does that.Take care... 
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Comment #19 posted by DanB on June 21, 2000 at 04:30:33 PT:
A bit off topic, here, but...
I appreciate the facetious spirit that permeates this message board. (Am I waxing eloquent again?)lolI just learned that my grandfather passed away and am a bit distraught. Thanks for the uplift, dddd (I mean that sincerely). This place always makes me feel appreciated and welcome.Thanks to you, too, FoM.
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Comment #18 posted by arcturus on June 21, 2000 at 04:23:59 PT
Pot-free....still lazy.
For so many years I blamed my pot smoking for my procrastination. (I hold bachelor's and master's degrees in music and education, maybe I was a little hard on myself.) However I've been living in Japan since last July and have had to go 100 percent without after being a daily user for over ten years. And you know what? I'm the same. For you stoners who beat yourselves over the head sometimes for being "lazy," you're being to hard on yourselves. Take it from me, you're good folks. arcturusp.s. I'll be back in the states for three weeks this summer and I'm going to hit it hard!
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Comment #17 posted by dddd on June 21, 2000 at 02:00:53 PT
none
CS....my condolences on the family thing.Glad you're back...Mensa is,,indeed strange.Dan B.....Quit writing such eloquent and excellent commentaries.Your making the rest of us look bad......dddd
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Comment #16 posted by Dan B on June 20, 2000 at 21:48:52 PT:
Get Real!
While I have previously asserted that I do not presently use the weed, I did use quite regularly (at least four times per week) for about two years of my graduate school education (I'm finishing the Ph.D. in Creative Writing right now). The result? Straight A's. That is--there was no change in my performance as I continued to use. I believe that these letter writers have warped views concerning pot users because they only know about a small (unfortunately highly vocal) minority. If they knew how many people with whom they come in contact actually use the weed, they would either be forced to change their views or would retreat further into their pitiful hate-filled views.Funny how these types talk about pot users being lazy, then put them in jail when they get the entrepreneureal spirit and start selling. Do they have any idea how much work it takes to grow the weed, harvest it, prepare it for sale, find customers, and sell it discreetly, and to do this in high enough volume to make a decent living? Not to say that pot users generally sell; in fact, it has been my experience that most users want nothing to do with selling because of the risks involved (prison, hefty fines, interminable harassment by the "authorities," etc.). But I think my point has been made.
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Comment #15 posted by CongressmanSuet on June 20, 2000 at 21:23:34 PT:
dddd, I know all about Mensa, I was supported for 
membership 19 years ago[a cousin of mine is a department chairman at John's Hopkin's and she and her husband are both members], but just didnt think it was really my type of organization. Anyway, gee, my income just keeps improving with every passing year. I, like Kap, have been imbibing for years,27 to be exact, and have gone from factory flunkie to entrepreneur, I answer to no one but myself and my family. I honestly believe Cannabis has helped me in my climb to complete independance from the "daily grind". Cannabis has enabled me to think freely, remain calm when under stress, and has helped me incredibly with my asthma and emphysema. I have been viewing it as medicine for years. Sorry for my absence this past week, I had a death in the family, and have been hitting this place infrequently. My comment to Greenfox, I understand your anger, but dont let it consume you. I live in a rural area and dont grow because of the increased surveilance and militarization of the local "Mayberry Nazis" its very frustrating to me, that I could lose my farm and all my land for planting a few seeds, but we have to be rational about this, and not end up being mired in hatred like our advesaries.
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Comment #14 posted by dddd on June 20, 2000 at 20:32:06 PT
WELCOME
D.O.Vindice....welcome...I was also a happy stumbler.This is a special place....dddd
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Comment #13 posted by D. O. Vindice on June 20, 2000 at 19:34:44 PT
You guys are all on the money.
I am glad to have stumbled upon this site.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on June 20, 2000 at 18:12:40 PT
That's OK!
Don't think twice about it MikeEEEE. I skip letters alot. I think we have our own language and we all understand each other!
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Comment #11 posted by MikeEEEEE on June 20, 2000 at 17:32:01 PT
Ops!
Miss-spelled prohibition.
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Comment #10 posted by MikeEEEEE on June 20, 2000 at 17:30:23 PT
This is your mind in stupidity
These people and the drug warriors are obviously uninformed and out of touch with reality. None of the stupid reasons they give justifies the suffering caused by probition.
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Comment #9 posted by dddd on June 20, 2000 at 12:39:36 PT
stoned
I started smoking weed at the age of 16.That was about 40 years ago.When I was 21,I was selected to take a supervised IQ test,administered by Mensa.I had to drive about an hour,to where the test was in south Seattle.I,perhaps stupidly,smoked a hefty amount of Nepalese "finger" hash on the way there.(those were the days).I was expecting to be scored in the idiot category.It was a set of several,timed tests,that took about three hours,and the results were scored,and mailed to me several weeks later. Now I'm not saying that being stoned in any way makes you smarter,or that getting high at work is a good thing,but I was pleasantly chagrinned to see I scored in the top 3 percent internationally. I am,in no way,recommending getting stoned for a test,or getting stoned on the job,but I think people who made the comments in this article,have foolishly zeroed in on a few co-workers,or employees who have problems,which are perhaps made worse by having to work with closed minded people like themselves,(they probably work at the ondcp,or dea)....dddd
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Comment #8 posted by greenfox on June 20, 2000 at 11:40:44 PT
How to win the war
Hello fellow cannabis lovers, (or haters, whichever the case). I have an idea that may shock some of you, but perhaps it makes since. Disclaimer- I am not interested in starting a flame war, so if you don't like what I have to say- tough cookies! :) The problem with the war on cannabis is this: cannabis users are peaceful folk, not inclined to violence or anything even remotely confrontational. This is where we, as a culture, fail. We've been getting f*cked around by uncle sam for well over 70 years. All the "peaceful" rallies and protests, all the signings and public fundraisers, everything... what's it gotten us? A few mmj laws in a few states that aren't even respecteD? Todd is "living" proof of that, (no pun intended). When we rally, no one notices us. The media IGNORES us. HOWEVER- if there were a group of potheads out there interested in direct intervention, (ie violent acts towards our oppressors) then we would get noticed. This sounds childish, but if you think about it, it's true: rally around the justice center and no one notices. Blow it up and it'll make front page. I (have been) growing for quite some time. If a raid were to happen at my place of dwelling, I personally would not go quietly. I would load, cock, and fire my .45 at anyone who has the audacity to trample my rights in order to steel MY plants. They know the rules. The expect no violence, peaceful surrender? Not from me. I'll die and take a few with me before I end up in jail (with the real criminals) over growing a plant. I would sooner remove the brain tissure of my opressors, (not that they need it, they don't use it anyway...)Active disobedience?! Let's let them know we aren't playing anymore. rudy has cancer.. hah! One down, a few million to go....-greenfoxps- I am not a violent person, honest. But sometimes you need to be insane when the rest of the world is "sane". 
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Comment #7 posted by freedom fighter on June 20, 2000 at 11:27:16 PT
oh gee
I,the pothead, build 300 houses in over 10 years and smoke daily! I just do not get what the authors yapping about. Heck, one can stare in the space without smoking the dope!I have a cousin who reads 4-6 books a day. She literally stayed home and had no social life. This was all she did, eat and read and sleep. Most people will consider that she has an addiction problem with the books and will not put her to prison for that. Indeed, her doctor had to tell her to stop this because of her health. Imagine this, your health has gotten worse because you read too many books.Only in America will this happen, that if a lazy man sits by a corner, noone will put him to jail for that. But, if this same lazy man sat there smoking a dobbie, we put him to jail even the fact he did not cause any harm to anyone.This is morally wrong thing to do to each other.
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Comment #6 posted by VoiceOfReason on June 20, 2000 at 11:25:00 PT
Anti-motivational?
Brilliant, industrious recreational drug users:Carl Sagan - one of the most respected astrophysicists of our time; head of NASA; lifetime "pot-head"Kerry Mullis - Brilliant bio-physicist; inventor of PCR (polymerase chain-reaction), the foundational technology of gene sequencing; user of psychedelic drugsAnecdotely:One third to one half of medical students and law school students. Personally, I know a med school valedictorian who has been using cannabis daily since being a teen-ager.People who hold these views seem to have absolutely no problem with the commercial drug pushers who have close to half our population strung out on "legal" drugs.Please consider the true ramifications of your fascist (as properly defined), anti-drug opinions. Is it the government's role to police behaviors that they believe take away from our nation's workplace productivity? - from a converted Drug-Warrior who decided to place reason above simple-minded ideaology
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Comment #5 posted by Francis on June 20, 2000 at 10:45:49 PT:
Who is out of their gourd?
People are addicted to many things, this includes food and television. Barbara doesn't like people who smoke and enjoy weed, well too bad for her but I pay my taxes as well and will put whatever substance I want into my body. How much of my tax money is being wasted building prisons and incarcerating non violent drug offenders? And what about the children? (By the way, the number one cause of poverty in the U.S. is poor family planning.) Is Barbara going to tell her children lies about drugs and about the erosion of my guarenteed Constitutional rights because of our insane drug laws? Will she tell her children about the poor Colombian schoolchildren sprayed with pesticides by U.S. backed planes a few months ago? I doubt it. Hey Barbara, how do you feel about the new CIA-drug revelations? I could go on and on but people like Barbara would still believe and trust our Government. That's the real shame here. It all boils down to personal responsibility, some people are responsible for their actions others aren't.Peace,Francis  
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Comment #4 posted by Dan Hillman on June 20, 2000 at 10:28:06 PT
these letters are content-free
So what would writer #1 have us do then? Re-introduce alcohol prohibition? How much would *that* cost? (Actually , I doubt he would care, as long as his "morality" is stroked.)Writer #2 has been listening to so much Limbaugh that she can't keep her enemies straight. She lashes out at both drug-legalization and also those who see the government as "moral authority".  Also note that she doesn't actually have any points, but just asks questions that she doesn't seem to have any experience with. To answer: yes I *have* seen families in which the parents were drug users and also those in which the parents weren't drug users and I would say that there is little, if any, correlation between neglect of the "little ones" and drug use.
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Comment #3 posted by kaptinemo on June 20, 2000 at 10:19:45 PT:
Lazy potheads
Hmmm... so, all cannabis users are lazy. That means they never get up at Oh-dark-thirty. They are so stricken with 'amotivational syndrome', they don't get to work a half-hour early every day, without pay, to get things opened up and ready for the business. They don't bother to take the time to learn phrases in foreign languages to try to make a foreign guest feel welcome... and to help in emergencies. They are too busy 'staring into space'. They certainly don't receive all manner of accolades from their 'superiors'. Not for dealing with different government agency personnel in such a professional yet personable fashion that an entire wall could be papered with all the 'attaboy!'s they'd gotten, from their own and the other agencies. They don't get nominated for promotions so regularly that the boss keeps copies of the same evauation sheet in her desk, and just changes the date. (Too bad all my good deeds by taking the initiative [ooops! potheads don't *have* initiative; must be my near-eidetic memory lapsing, again! Damn cannabis!] and saving the bacon didn't count when they found out about my medicinal cannabis use. They fired me and put some less-qualified person in the position - who promptly f*****d things up so badly that the entire department was embaraessed. Typical.) Nope, potheads don't work hard at all. Guess that means I am not a pothead... despite nightly use for years. And still getting up at Oh-dark-thirty. Sheesh!
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Comment #2 posted by Anonymous on June 20, 2000 at 09:42:38 PT
Try working with me, facist.
	I am, as this person would say, somewhat of a "pothead". I also posess a bachelors degree in physics with honors from a rather reputable college and am pursuing a doctorate in biophysics at one of the top research universities in the field. The development of my intellect has ALWAYS been a high priority for me, regardless of my use of cannabis. I don't know what "potheads" this person knows, but apparently they are the wrong ones. Some people are less motivated than others. Some of the less motivated people use cannabis. Some of the more motivated people use cannabis as well. The author is stereotyping cannabis users based upon insufficient data. 
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Comment #1 posted by greenfox on June 20, 2000 at 09:38:52 PT
THE CHILDREN
"Prohibition ... For The Children:"This is crap, folks. When I have kids, I'll be teaching them to roll their own at age 16. Besides, there is a world of difference between crack addiction and marijuana "addiction". If anything, I'd like to... mgrrr.r.. (these sort of articles really upset me.)-gf.
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