Police Say Oregon MMJ Law Helps Criminals
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Police Say Oregon MMJ Law Helps Criminals
Posted by CN Staff on May 19, 2011 at 19:41:55 PT
By Jonathan J. Cooper
Source: Associated Press 
Salem -- Oregon's medical marijuana law provides a safe-haven for large scale drug production and trafficking operations, law enforcement officials told state lawmakers on Thursday in testimony supporting a proposed overhaul of the system.The bill, proposed by three lawmakers who are former state troopers, would make it harder for people to qualify for a medical marijuana card and tighten controls on the people growing it.
HB 3664 is aimed at a system that allows designated growers to legally cultivate hundreds of pounds of marijuana, and it gives so-called "caretakers" cover to move marijuana through the state, critics said. Defenders of the existing law say their legitimate medication is under attack, and the proposed changes would go too far.The law is so useful to drug traffickers that they'd be "foolish" not to use it, said Det. H. Ray Myers, a Grants Pass police officer who works on the Rogue Area Drug Enforcement Team. Myers said the vast majority of his cases involve medical marijuana cardholders."It is easy for them to hide behind it," Myers said. "It makes it difficult for us to investigate."Voters approved Oregon's medical marijuana law in 1998. Patients have to grow their own marijuana or get it from an authorized grower, who cannot charge beyond expenses. Cardholders are limited to six mature plants and 1 1/2 pounds of processed cannabis at one time. Voters turned down a measure last year that would have allowed cardholders to buy marijuana from dispensaries.Critics say the professional growers can cultivate massive marijuana plants that are each capable of producing dozens of pounds of pot. That creates a significant excess beyond the 1 1/2 pounds a patient is eligible to possess, and some growers sell their surplus on the black market. Designated "caregivers" are allowed to possess the marijuana designated for patients in their care, so becoming a caregiver for 10 patients would give someone cover to transport 15 pounds of marijuana.The proposed measure would raise the standard for doctors to authorize medical marijuana cards for patients, and it would impose tougher restrictions on authorizing the drug for minors. It would open the entire registry of medical marijuana growers to police four times a year, regardless of whether they are investigating a crime. And it would limit caregivers to serving one patient."We need to protect those who truly need medical marijuana, but at the same time stop the abuse," said Rep. Andy Olson, R-Albany, a former state police lieutenant and proponent of the bill.Opponents say they believe it sets such a high bar for doctors that they would not be able to issue any medical marijuana cards to patients. They say police officers already have sufficient access to the medical marijuana database and check it far too frequently."It sounds like they're trying to punish the medical marijuana program because of the black market," Roger Lothamer, 64, told The Associated Press. "I think there are ways to take care of that without having this law."Lothamer, a cancer patient and medical marijuana cardholder from Eugene, watched the testimony from a small television screen in a state Capitol hallway, where an overflow crowd of spectators gathered.The bill's proponents say they want to combat abuse of the program without hindering access to medical marijuana for people with a legitimate medical need, but critics are skeptical of their motives."Law enforcement is now pursuing a political issue. That is not their job," Brian Michaels, a lawyer who has represented defendants in cases involving medical marijuana cards, said in a news conference.Law enforcement officials have long been critical of Oregon's law. U.S. Attorney Dwight Holton called it a "train wreck" in an April interview, and courts have been asked to weigh in on a variety of disputes between police and cardholders. The Oregon Supreme Court unanimously ruled Thursday that a retired school bus driver can have both a medical marijuana card and a concealed handgun permit.More than 38,000 Oregonians hold medical marijuana patient cards, 1 percent of the population. More than 24,000 are registered growers.Source: Associated Press (Wire)Author: Jonathan J. Cooper Published: May 19, 2011Copyright: 2011 The Associated PressCannabisNews  Medical Marijuana Archives
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 24, 2011 at 12:01:58 PT
Just For Fun
This is an updated page of Neil Youngs. It's his store where he sells stuff. It is really nice and I thought others might to see what he has done with his store.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on May 24, 2011 at 09:17:57 PT
Very nice. 
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Comment #21 posted by museman on May 24, 2011 at 08:52:13 PT
A new song
Written two days ago, and recorded -roughly- (for 'poor-mans copyright')But its all about now...Its only going to be there today, just for you guys, then I delete it.The link may download, or play in your browser, depending on what you are using. 
The End of the Night
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on May 24, 2011 at 08:51:43 PT
Me Too!
I like this thread too.
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Comment #19 posted by Had Enough on May 24, 2011 at 08:31:33 PT
I like this one too!!!
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness, in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.************It goes right along with what the museman posted…
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Comment #18 posted by museman on May 22, 2011 at 09:28:16 PT
for those who understand...
Yesterday, the High Collective Council (just a term to describe something pretty new in our awareness) convened to decide some of the things we all want to keep, and those we need to throw away.Decisions were made. The threshold has been crossed, though it may take some time (but not as much as some might think) before some begin to notice, and some will not notice at all, because they are looking in the wrong places, or not even looking at all.The evildoers mentioned in this thread are on their last journey. This is their last opportunity to straiten out their act and stop the actions that everyone, including them (somewhere under all the denial) know are wrong.Whether they do or not does not concern those who know the truth and make honest attempts to follow it every day,...we have a lot of work to do.The war of light and darkness is coming to a point of victory. Some even might be so bold as to state that we have already won (I am of that persuasion). Of course the body ("Where the carcass is, the vultures will gather") of this old and stinking beast does not yet know it is dead, and that it's luciferian head has been removed, and like as not most of the agents of beasthood will not surrender their stupidity, and will go down in denial even as their soul begins to burn. I would have pity and compassion for the justice that they are about to receive, but though I can forgive their humanity (if there is any left) I can not give any part of my being and consciousness to aid them in their time of self destruction, but must stand aside and watch as they cry out in foolish denial "What have we ever done to deserve this?" and the answer to that question was given by Yashua;"What you have done to these the least of my brethren, you have done to me." -and all the false 'christians' who aided and abetted the beast in its conquest and enslavement of this world through their total lack of understanding of the INTENTION of YHWH as Love -exemplified in Yashua- those who replaced the Divine with the mediocre and mundane of mammon, who over wrote the True Guidelines and Instructions of YHWH with the false moral imperative of human law, and who stand uninvited at the head of the table, claiming honor which is not theirs -will find themselves "..outside, with a great gnashing of teeth."Guaranteed.Yet the waning power of the beast is still enough to cause great suffering to those whose fortune and circumstance puts them in the way of the death throws of the body of the beast, and the immediate future may have yet some dark days. Diligence is therefore in order. We must watch out for ourselves and each other because the agents of the dead and dying beast are angry and want to take it out on any they can.Great thread guys....LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on May 21, 2011 at 15:44:51 PT
Had Enough
Very nice.
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Comment #16 posted by Garry Minor on May 21, 2011 at 15:27:09 PT
runruff...#10...Had Enough....
Very well said runruff. You know the old saying that if you don't know your history you're bound to repeat it,'s true. The world is full of creatures of ignorance, weeds! 
I think it's time to pull them up at the root! Oh, tell the Mrs. Thanks for the hug, I'm still hangin' on!The Gospel of Philip says, and I cannot say it any better; Ignorance is the mother of all evil. Ignorance will result in death, because those who come from ignorance neither were nor are nor shall be. [...] will be perfect when all the truth is revealed. For truth is like ignorance: while it is hidden, it rests in itself, but when it is revealed and is recognized, it is praised, inasmuch as it is stronger than ignorance and error. It gives freedom. The Word said, "If you know the truth, the truth will make you free" (Jn 8:32). Ignorance is a slave. Knowledge is freedom. If we know the truth, we shall find the fruits of the truth within us. If we are joined to it, it will bring our fulfillment.And a lot more!Had Enough. My favorite from the GTH;Yeshua said, "The kingdom of the father is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. While she was walking on the road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied out behind her on the road. She did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. When she reached her house, she set the jar down and found it empty."The chrism is superior to baptism, for it is from the word "Chrism" that we have been called "Christians," certainly not because of the word "baptism". And it is because of the chrism that "the Christ" has his name. For the Father anointed the Son, and the Son anointed the apostles, and the apostles anointed us. He who has been anointed possesses everything. He possesses the resurrection, the light, the cross, the Holy Spirit. The Father gave him this in the bridal chamber; he merely accepted (the gift). The Father was in the Son and the Son in the Father. This is the Kingdom of Heaven.  ~~~~~ kaneh bosm
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Comment #15 posted by Had Enough on May 21, 2011 at 14:04:40 PT
More good stuff…
The Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, and politics without principle.Mahatma Gandhi************If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.’We all know where this one comes from…
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Comment #14 posted by afterburner on May 21, 2011 at 11:47:33 PT
runruff #10 
Quotes to help you & me carry on in peace of mind:>"I am a Canadian,
free to speak without fear,
free to worship in my own way,
free to stand for what I think right,
free to oppose what I believe wrong, or
free to choose those who shall govern my country.
This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind."
-- John G. Diefenbaker (1895-1979) Prime Minister of Canada Source: Paraphrasing the Canadian Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960. >"Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice."
-- John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President 1765>"When we have begun to take charge of our lives, to own ourselves, there is no longer any need to ask permission of someone."
-- George O'Neil>  "The highest destiny of the individual is to serve rather than to rule."
  -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921>"There is only one thing more powerful than all the armies of the world, that is an idea whose time has come."
- Victor Hugo>When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it – always.
- Mahatma Gandhi>  "Every really new idea looks crazy at first."
  -- Alfred North Whitehead (1861-1947)>  "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself."
  -- Albert Camus (1913-1960)>The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired.
- Stephen W. Hawking>  To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.
  - Stephen W. Hawking>Everything you see has its roots in the unseen world. The forms may change, yet the essence remains the same. Every wonderful sight will vanish; every sweet word will fade, But do not be disheartened, The source they come from is eternal, growing, Branching out, giving new life and new joy. Why do you weep? The source is within you And this whole world is springing up from it.
- Jelauddin Rumi>The Cherokees got it right with their Creation Myth, that creation on earth
took place through a Stargate. 1 of the 12 portals was a serpent. 
(Similar to Jesus stepping through a Vesica Pisces - the mouth of a fish.)
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Comment #13 posted by runruff on May 21, 2011 at 08:05:59 PT
If Eve had been a cop....
...she would have counted Adams ribs to make sure he wasn't going out on her!
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Comment #12 posted by josephlacerenza on May 21, 2011 at 06:55:07 PT
Obama Pardons 8, 2 for Marijuana 
Huffington Post: the earlier pardons, the latest did not involve anyone well-known. The cases date back as far as 1975, when:1.)Randy Eugene Dyer of Burien, Wash., was sentenced to serve five years in prison in the conspiracy to import marijuana and two related crimes.2.) Christine Marie Rossiter of Lincoln, Neb., sentenced in 1992 to three years of probation for conspiring to distribute less than 110 pounds of marijuana.Two out of eight pardons to marijuana offenses! I am having a hard time understanding the direction the White House is taking.We had another DEA raid on Friday, so this all makes no sense. They, the DEA, "collected" ANOTHER $1.2 MILLION!!! No charges, just smash and grab!
UPDATE: DEA Raid at a Helena Dispensary
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Comment #11 posted by josephlacerenza on May 21, 2011 at 06:10:01 PT
UPDATE: Friday DEA RAIDS Dispensary in Helena 
DEA Raid in Helena at Sleeping Giant Caregiver Fri, May 20 UPDATE!
Video of the Raid
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Comment #10 posted by runruff on May 21, 2011 at 05:45:19 PT
Historic despots.
I read history. It has been my favorite subject since high school, and you are right on Paul. These types never think there will be consequences to their actions until the devil is upon them. It is only then they see the error of their ways and are at once sorry.Time after time, throughout history it happens, and they are always caught off guard because "this just wasn't supposed to happen" they'll whine once they've got their tit caught in a ringer.What goes around comes around. This is the law called "poetic justice" and it happens more than not.I sometimes need to be still and look at the overall picture in order to be settled in my mind, otherwise I will let these little legislative tantrums they throw get to me.We will over come!
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Comment #9 posted by Paul Pot on May 20, 2011 at 20:21:31 PT
Cop Power.
This has got nothing to do with helping anyone except the police. Laws like this, made by cops, are designed to maintain police power at a time when police are loosing their most beloved rights to search, degrade and exploit innocent and peaceful people, for their own callous career interests.Well they have another thing coming, the end of prohibition is close at hand and these guys are going to have to work for their bread and butter and actually start contributing to the community instead of leaching off it as they have for so long. That is, the ones who don't go to prison for the crimes against humanity they committed under the guise of prohibition. 
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Comment #8 posted by josephlacerenza on May 20, 2011 at 16:00:14 PT
The DEA is raiding Sleeping Giant Caregivers in Helena Montana, RIGHT NOW!!! 
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Comment #7 posted by runruff on May 19, 2011 at 22:46:02 PT
I wonder what these useful idiots say...
when introduced to the evidence that they are perpetrating the world's greatest fraud?
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Comment #6 posted by runruff on May 19, 2011 at 21:05:59 PT
Ah shucks!
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on May 19, 2011 at 20:37:33 PT
You are so handsome. 
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Comment #4 posted by runruff on May 19, 2011 at 20:11:24 PT
If you are interested....
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Comment #3 posted by runruff on May 19, 2011 at 20:03:59 PT
Prohibition helps cops, and prosecutors profit.
And they are the new in house terrorist.You are not a criminal for growing and or selling the herb. This is a delusion the trough feeders and useful idiots are trying to perpetuate. Trying their best to keep the lie alive.
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on May 19, 2011 at 20:03:22 PT
More News From Oregon
Proposed Changes To Oregon’s Medical Marijuana Law Gets HearingBy Saul Hubbard, The Register-GuardMay 19, 2011Salem -- Medical marijuana advocates turned out in force at the Capitol Thursday to take part in a sometimes-rowdy public hearing on a bill that would make a number of changes to Oregon’s current medical marijuana laws.House Bill 3664 was drawn up in recent weeks by a group of bipartisan lawmakers — including three former law enforcement officers — after approximately 20 other bills aiming to restrict medical marijuana in Oregon in different ways failed to get anywhere this session.Rep. Andy Olson, R-Albany, the bill’s chief sponsor, said HB 3664 represents an amalgamation of the earlier bills and has two primary purposes: protecting patients who genuinely need medical marijuana for physical ailments, while creating boundaries to prevent abuses of the program.Read more in Friday’s Register-Guard.Copyright: 2011 Register-GuardURL:
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on May 19, 2011 at 20:00:06 PT
More News From Oregon
Washington County Sheriff Won't Appeal Oregon Supreme Court Ruling on Concealed Handgun Licenses for Medical Marijuana CardholdersMay 19, 2011URL:
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