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Kids’ Use of MMJ Stirs Debate Over Future in MT
Posted by CN Staff on March 27, 2011 at 06:33:34 PT
By Gwen Florio of the Missoulian
Source: Missoulian
Helena, MT -- Only 52 people under age 18 legally use medical marijuana in Montana. That's not even 2 percent of the total. Yet the debate over its future keeps circling back to kids."The No. 1 goal is to reduce access and availability to the young people of this state that are being sent an incorrect message that this is an acceptable product for them to be using," Sen. Jeff Essmann, R-Billings, said recently in arguing for repeal of Montana's medical marijuana law by the 2011 Legislature.
"It's a serious problem, no doubt about it," Jim Gingery, executive director of the Montana Medical Growers Association, said of marijuana use by young people. "We absolutely believe in protecting children."Proponents of medical marijuana - they prefer the term "therapeutic cannabis" - cite that tiny percentage as proof that the state's 2004 voter-approved initiative legalizing medical marijuana has had little effect on teen marijuana use."For the illegal street drug marijuana, it's been a problem and remains a problem," Gingery said. But he said, "There's very, very few cases of medical cannabis found in schools."One of those cases occurred earlier this month at DeSmet School in Missoula, where at least four eighth-graders ate cookies baked with marijuana-laced butter allegedly provided by 18-year-old Willard High student Tyler Pyle, a medical marijuana cardholder.An anomaly, said Gingery. The real problem, he said, lies in parents' medicine cabinets. "With the number of pharmaceuticals being traded in schools now, it is out of hand," he said.New DeSmet principal Joe Halligan said that in his seven short months on the job here - he spent 10 years in Billings as an elementary school teacher - he's only dealt with one case of potential prescription drug abuse.Halligan emphasized that in Missoula, he's dealing with older students. DeSmet includes kindergarten through eighth grade.Still, he said, "I've definitely seen and heard about (marijuana) hundreds of more times than I would have in Billings in 10 years. ..."I've been a deer in the headlights for a lot of what I've encountered."Medical privacy laws and regulations regarding juveniles make it difficult to get details on the young people with medical marijuana cards in Montana.Jamie Guerin was one: The 18-year-old with Duchenne muscular dystrophy died in October in Missoula.And Kati Welch was the first minor who registered for a card when she started using medical cannabis at 17 to cope with medical conditions that resulted in seven brain and spinal surgeries in three years, according to comments she made on a YouTube video."My mom got so much crap from people. What would you do when your daughter's crawling down the hall, puking, and can't get out of bed and having to get three Demoral shots a week and ... you've tried everything the doctor said?" Welch asked on the video released last year by Patients and Families United. The group promotes reforming the medical marijuana law, but adamantly opposes repeal.Welch told Hiedi Handford of Lincoln, who writes the Montana Connect blog on medical cannabis, last week that she was too ill to discuss the subject. Handford said few young people who use medical marijuana, or parents whose children use it, want to talk about it publicly.Because of the uproar over medical marijuana, Handford said, "people are worried about having their children taken away."Mike Hyde of Missoula, though, remains outspoken on the subject. Hyde's 2 1/2 -year-old son Cash is likely the youngest medical marijuana cardholder in the state, if not the country.Cash Hyde was diagnosed last year with a brain tumor and his father said that 3-milliliter doses of marijuana oil in the boy's gastric tube allowed his son to stop using powerful painkillers and start eating again following intensive rounds of chemotherapy."We're off the chemo. We're cancer-free. We beat Stage 4 cancer," Hyde said. Cash goes back to the Huntsman Cancer Institute at the University of Utah next month for a brain scan, he said.Mike Hyde said that long before it was legal, he self-medicated with marijuana as a teenager because it gave him better results than Ritalin. "I'd just smoke a little cannabis before school and I'd be fine," he said.When it comes to young people using marijuana, he said, "I'd be more concerned about kids eating McDonald's or playing with plastic toys with lead-based paint from China. Cannabis is the last thing they need to really worry about."Glen Welch, a Missoula County Youth Court probation officer, worries about it a lot."Kids who smoke marijuana damage their brains," he said. "Just because you have a card doesn't mean you don't damage your brain."Welch wants to be clear that he's not against the medical use of marijuana, and that he's not naive about the fact that kids smoked dope long before its therapeutic use was legalized.But he said that legalization - especially the free-form Montana variety - "has opened up a can of worms" by making marijuana use socially acceptable.It's also made marijuana more available, said Missoula Police Officer Jim Johnson, the school resource officer at Hellgate High School."I really feel that having medical marijuana (legalized) has really made it easier for kids to get the drug," Johnson wrote in an email. "I have several sources who have told me that they have bought marijuana from a person with a green card."Deputy Missoula County Attorney Andrew Paul, who prosecutes drug cases, likewise said the high visibility of medical marijuana in Missoula County coincides with a rise in marijuana use by young people."Now that we've seen medical marijuana really take off, we're seeing more and more marijuana in the schools and in the hands of students," Paul said. "... Look at the message we're sending young people: ‘It's not dangerous. It's benign.' "State and national studies back up that anecdotal information.An increase in the availability of marijuana, along with a decrease in the perception of its risk, paralleled a rise in teens' use of marijuana, a 2010 Montana Department of Health and Human Services study showed.Last year, marijuana surpassed cigarettes as the second-most abused substance by Montana eighth-, 10th- and 12th-graders. In Missoula County, one in three high school seniors reported smoking pot in the previous 30 days, compared to just under one in four statewide.And a 2010 National Institutes of Health Study, "Monitoring the Future: National Results on Adolescent Drug Use," said its most important finding was the rise in marijuana use by teens over the last few years, after years of decline.Both surveys show alcohol, by far, continues to be the most abused substance by teens.But the NIH study found that for the first time since 1981, more high school seniors had reported smoking pot than drinking in the previous 30 days."Nearly one in 16 high school seniors today," it reported, "is a current daily, or near-daily, marijuana user."Source: Missoulian (MT) Author: Gwen Florio of the Missoulian Published: March 27, 2011Copyright: 2011 Missoulian Contact: oped missoulian.comWebsite http://www.missoulian.com/ URL: http://drugsense.org/url/7IxmKN1sCannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #61 posted by ekim on March 30, 2011 at 08:06:34 PT
anyone?info on what Montel said about plaque
Dr Oz looked visiably shaken when Montel said he has been tested by many Drs and has not formed any new ones,since using Cannabis.
No mention on how many were forced by courts to seek treatment or jail.Dr Oz tried to show animated look at how thc worked but failed to show any other compounds that Cannabis has and how they all work together.
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 16:13:23 PT
Hope
Removing the part about Tumors from the National Cancer Institutes statement is really wrong too. Big Pharm doesn't want that to get out but it all ready has.
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Comment #59 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 16:04:51 PT
Drug Testing.
My gosh! He owns a drug testing company and he's using his position as governor to mandate drug testing? That seems a tarring and feathering offense. How self serving is that? He's profiteering!
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 15:57:11 PT
Hope
As your body recovers from the Chemo and Radiation you will do fine. When I was taking prescription drugs years ago my poor brain was scrambled. I'm ok now so the brain has a wonderful ability of getting better in time.Governor Scott in Florida is making mandatory drug testing for state employees. He owned and transferred a drug testing company to his wife so he says he doesn't have any problem with it. He wants people on Welfare to pay for their drug tests too. Scott doesn't want to test for drugs like legal narcotics even though Florida is known for pill mills.I can't get over how much the Republicans want to surpress the people of America. It blows me away.
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Comment #57 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 15:44:24 PT
I would like for cannabis to be legal.
I think it would help my brain cells to recover more quickly.Seems like my "Love Project" didn't work so well for Andrea. I did try my best to really love her and send feelings of love to her. Doesn't mean that someone else couldn't have loved her enough to lead to a new understanding in her life about cannabis, an epiphany, if you will.I'm disappointed but I did try. Doesn't mean love isn't powerful just because I couldn't love so powerfully.
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Comment #56 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 15:36:22 PT
Most people say it takes them about ten years
to recover from that sense of chemo brain.
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Comment #55 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 15:35:19 PT
Of course...
I don't think he would think such a thing... about the grandkids or anyone. But he started watching the show just as the prohibitionists took over. Early on, really. No. We didn't talk while it was on. He hasn't said anything, nor have I. I told him it was going to be very negative and that it disagreed with my point of view.It's a debate and we have to have their point of view. I just felt like it leaned heavily towards rather, of course, very self satisfied prohibitionists. I'm thankful that you can still understand me. It seems to me that I can't just sit down and automatically type out quickly what I'm thinking anymore. Lol! I'm not so sure what I'm thinking anymore without chasing it around my brain several times until I catch up with it and try to hold it down until I can see what it is.
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 14:51:39 PT
Hope
You're brain will recover. It will take a little time. You always make perfect sense to me.
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Comment #53 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 14:50:28 PT
BGreen
Comment 50. I understand what you are saying.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 14:36:13 PT
Hope
Maybe the both of you watching the show will give you an opportunity to talk about it. Sometimes being closed minded in certain areas seems safer for some folks. I believe in asking a question where the person has to make the judgement. For instance if a grandchild smoked marijuana, a grandchild that you love dearly, and gets caught should he or she be jailed for it?
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 14:28:34 PT
FoM
Not being able to do it like I once might have has little to do with feeling weak as much as it seems to be about what I think of as chemo brain... which kind of feels like some sort brain stun, or brain cell and nerve cell death as part of those collateral damage killed healthy cells that went the way of the cancer cells. Some words that I ordinarily know easily, more than usual, stay just out of my grasp. I know I know what I'm trying to think of... but it stays just out of reach. I just can't translate from TV to my fingers as fast or as coherently as I might have a year ago. There are a lot of "Duh"... and even worse... running into blank walls when it comes to thinking, going on these days, since chemo. It might be getting a little better, but it's seems to me, my brain isn't working as smoothly and efficiently as before chemo.So, probably, forcing myself to try to think fast as often as possible is probably good for me. But it's not especially easy.Dang it. I wish I hadn't asked my husband to watch that show. Everything has just been so much better lately that I took the chance. There is still too much hatred and dislike of us, reformers, and cannabis use, though.
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Comment #50 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 14:15:47 PT
OK, I know I misspoke
Of course, psychological addictions like anorexia, bulemia and self-mutilation can lead to death but only by the actions and effects of the addict. Cannabis addiction doesn't kill and neither does cannabis use.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 14:14:56 PT
BGreen
You're right. You can die withdrawing from narcotics. Missing cannabis is not the same thing as needing a narcotic or pain will be unbearable.
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Comment #48 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 14:10:58 PT
I watch it all the time
There have also been gamblers and anorexics and bulimics and inhalant abusers and self-mutilators but NEVER a cannabis addict.Psychological addictions like that of cannabis are not fatal but physical addictions very often are.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 14:01:06 PT
BGreen
I've not watched it over three or four times over the years, but they were about alcohol and stuff other than cannabis.Oz just closed out his show and asked people to go to his website to continue the medical marijuana debate and check out how to tell if your child or someone else you love is on drugs.
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Comment #46 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 13:59:47 PT
Dr. Oz is in for a big surprise
He's going to find out in a few years what we already know. He's ranting like the father of teenagers right now but he'll learn the truth eventually.I have NEVER used cannabis to escape anything. It's never been a coping mechanism for emotional issues. Many people pop "nerve pills" given to her by her doctor at the first sign of stress.Dr. Oz needs to learn. I'll bet his problem is he never used cannabis and still believes the lies.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:57:16 PT
I actually laughed at the end.
Oz was winding up giving some long winded speech about what he thought should be done and no recommendations or prescriptions about anxiety or stress... and Montel tried to say something... and Oz tried to quiet him... saying "No. I'm fine. It's not your show now." Then a slight pause, and "Now you messed me up. I forgot what I was saying." and they laughed and hugged.
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Comment #44 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 13:52:37 PT
Almost everybody knows that is a lie
Has anybody noticed that in nine seasons of the A&E Cable Network show "Intervention" that there has never been a person who was solely addicted to cannabis. It's always alcohol or opiates or meth or cocaine. Those people are near death and that is why cannabis users aren't good TV. They aren't near death, not even close, and that makes Max and Andrea LIARS!The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:48:41 PT
That guy waving the sheaf of papers
did say that. I couldn't believe it. He said it was better to be addicted to opiates than marijuana!
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:47:14 PT
The papers he was holding up...
about a four inch sheaf of paper, he said were studies that disagree with Montel's studies, and Montel just didn't mention any studies that disagreed with his feelings about it. I saw Diane F. for a moment.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 13:46:26 PT
BGreen
Being addicted to opiates is better then using marijuana? I've been strung out on prescription medicine and it was the worst pain I ever had when I went thru de-tox. Cannabis doesn't cause pain when you stop using it. Where do they come up with this stuff?
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:39:44 PT
And of course...
You know who started watching just as the prohibitionists took control.They are so pleased with themselves and how they are running away with the show.Oz keeps letting the prohibitionists audience members talk. Man! They look so self satisfied. I guess they are.
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Comment #39 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 13:35:33 PT
Max is an idiot!
Max said we would be better off addicted to opiates than marijuana!WTF???Death is better than not dying?Max is showing just how idiotic and worthless their side is.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #38 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 13:27:40 PT
It's OK, Hope
Dr. Oz is pretty open minded for a surgeon and Dr. Abrahms (sp?) is one of the leading researchers in the world regarding cannabis.I'm really excited because the old lies aren't working.I'm wondering if the research papers the one guy is holding up is Storm Crow's list? Wouldn't that be COOL?Am I the only one who sees our side kicking A$$?The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:27:31 PT
Barthwell's out...
Abrams is on.Barthwell needs to butt out. She's not helping anyone.Up next "Addiction".It's strange seeing these so self righteous people being so mean to Montel.... because he's sick and needs the benefits found in this nonpoisonous plant. It's so strange.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 13:25:15 PT
BGreen
Thank You. I don't know if the whole show is online. They sure had plenty of prohibitionists on the video clips.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 13:19:15 PT
Hope
Please don't push yourself. You are recovering nicely but you have been thru so darn much. I saw most of the video clips and hopefully they will make them all available and I'll watch them.http://www.doctoroz.com/videos
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:16:11 PT
*sigh*
I'm not going to be able to cover this like I once would have. I haven't recovered enough from chemotherapy yet to do so.But Montel is saying important things... but it's hard for him. Being in pain and sick makes one's emotions hard to control sometimes. He's doing well... but he's having a hard time.I am, too. I love his soul. Used to, I found him pretty unlikable. But he knows better now, than a lot of the stuff he used to be supportive of... before he knew the truth of it.Man! He looks good. Whoo hoo. His suit and earrings. Wow!
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Comment #33 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2011 at 13:15:16 PT
So far it's been great!
Montel is so convincing that you would have to almost be heartless not to believe him.That whole "smoked marijuana" mantra is coming up but remember vaporizers and the fact that inhalants ARE used in medicine, and many of them have some pretty deleterious effects on the lungs and respiratory systems yet are FDA approved LEGAL.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 13:02:02 PT
It's time.....
oh.... I dread this.Montel is brought to tears at one point, obviously.I don't like this guy already.
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 12:46:08 PT
The show...
I dread it. I never talk to my husband about this stuff anymore...he's too Rush Limbaugh about it all and not supportive at all. Although he was somewhat in the early years of my activism. I think he must have thought it was "cute" back in those early days, or something. I asked him to watch it with me, because all morning I've been listening to excerpts from a good book he is reading... so I thought I'd ask him to watch this. I hope he's distracted and doesn't watch it. But of course, he probably will. I retracted my invitation... but now he's hanging around because he's obviously become too curious. Aaargh.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 12:10:33 PT
Hope
Watching the video clips shows how Dr. Oz is not for people having medical marijuana except with extreme health issues not PTSD type ailments. That's interesting since The Veterans Administration has said it is ok for a Veteran to test positive for marijuana if they are in a pain program in a state that has a medical marijuana law.
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Comment #29 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 12:09:12 PT
Dallas/Ft. Worth
is local for us.
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 12:08:18 PT
Back in the day on Dish Network
they had to put up a second satellite dish to get the local stations. We had two dishes. Now, with Direct TV there is just one dish for it all.I was so hoping Dr. Oz was going to be with us on this instead of such a plant prude. Must have some of that fear of plants thing going on. Nobody's perfect, I guess.Seems to me like he was all up for that crap that soaked toxins out through your feet a few years ago, too. Maybe not though... but seems like I remember him thinking it was great... and it WAS a scam.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 12:06:34 PT
Hope
We get local channels just not Fox. Local for us is Columbus.
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 12:04:00 PT
DirectTV and Dish
both have local stations... the regular networks, as a separate package. I felt lost for years without the local stations and insisted on getting them. I feel out of touch without the local network stations. My husband never watches them, but I do occasionally. I like to watch the local news, sometimes, too.
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Comment #25 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 11:59:15 PT
Dang...
After reading what Diane had to say about it, I wish I hadn't asked my husband to watch it with me. I dread it.It seems like it will be disgustingly slanted to the prohibitionists.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 11:24:13 PT
Hope
Thank you. Hopefully the whole show will appear on Youtube so we can see it. I think they are stopping some Fox channels in our area but maybe you have to pay more to get it.Canis420, Thank you. I really like Diane.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 10:46:51 PT
Oh man.
I guess you're going to have to watch it online,after the fact, FoM.The TV is set, I think, to come on automatically when it's time for it and I'll try to do a sort of "Play by play" for you.
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Comment #22 posted by Canis420 on March 29, 2011 at 10:40:56 PT:
Commentary from an audience member on Dr Oz
http://www.freedomisgreen.com/behind-the-scenes-the-dr-oz-medical-marijuana-show/
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 10:34:06 PT
Hope
We found it but we don't get that channel.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 10:31:32 PT
Hope
What is the channel number? I quick looked and couldn't find it.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on March 29, 2011 at 10:26:46 PT
Dr. Oz
Direct TV here, too. It comes on at three o'clock this afternoon on the local Fox channel. So if you had something like it there, FoM, it should be on at two o'clock.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 08:45:14 PT
Dr. Oz
It seems to have been already aired on a DirecTV on an ABC channel so I went thru the videos on Dr. Oz's web site. Barthwell is still one of the strangest people because she tries to straddle both sides of the medical marijuana debate. I don't appreciate fence sitters.
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Comment #17 posted by runruff on March 29, 2011 at 08:22:20 PT
Here is Barthwll's story.
One very late night she was driving through Arizona with here GPS system upside down. She accidentally drove off into the Grand Canyon. She survived OK, but now she is unshakably sure that the World is flat.With a few Valium and a nice bottle of May-wine, she viewed, in it's entirety, "Reefer Madness". She thought it was a federally produced doc so now she is unshakably sure that MARIHUANA is a poisonous plant.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on March 29, 2011 at 08:05:21 PT
Greenmed
I have DirecTV and I can't find Dr. Oz. It sort of said when I did a search it is on OWN but I went thru the whole days schedule and no Dr. Oz.
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Comment #15 posted by dongenero on March 29, 2011 at 07:38:41 PT
comment #14
The Dr. Oz show should be interesting. In the teaser video, it looks as though the discussion gets quite intense. Barthwell is there, likely to tell everyone how the world should be. sigh.
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Comment #14 posted by greenmed on March 29, 2011 at 04:57:15 PT
OT: fyi
Dr. Oz's television show today will discuss medical cannabis. Montel Williams will testify as a panelist.http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/tuesday-dr-oz-showConsidering the demographics of daytime television viewers, maybe this could help counter the what-about-the-children propaganda.Youngsters get sick, too.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on March 28, 2011 at 21:06:26 PT
This article...
I want to comment on it. I've been trying to for two days.It's one of the most disturbing articles of all the disturbing articles we've faced.How can prohibitionists be as foolish and stupid and cruel as they are? I just can't comprehend that kind of ignorance.I am thankful that Gwen Florio got out there and found some real information about these real children.To think that prohibitionists would willingly harm these real children, as well as real adults, for the sake of their imaginary child scenario is just so sickening. A child with a deadly disease is so much worse than even a child, any child, or an adult, any adult, smoking some marijuana. So much worse. The prohibitionists are completely insane.Thank you, Gwen Florio, for not just skimming over the real plight of the real children and their real families, but letting us all see some of the reality of the truly terrible, truly sickening situation that a deathly ill or dieing child and his or her family is going through. That prohibitionists are willing to withhold any help, any aid, any hope, any relief for these children and their families is simply completely beyond my ability to understand.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 28, 2011 at 14:52:02 PT
Joseph
You're welcome.
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Comment #11 posted by josephlacerenza on March 28, 2011 at 14:49:11 PT
FoM
I may need to register with them to get it to post!! Thanks for the heads up! Oh,the response was on my blog. I left a link in their comment section as well.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on March 28, 2011 at 14:19:09 PT
Joseph
I clicked on the link and found one comment. I'm not sure I understand.
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Comment #9 posted by josephlacerenza on March 28, 2011 at 13:37:07 PT
Good Day All!!
If you guys can check this story out on Cannabis News. ORG the topic is Weed Science, potency testing etc..
Experts Urge Independent Auditing and Oversight of Medical-Cannabis-Testing Labs"...Medical-cannabis testing at labs is a new industry without much oversight. Pot activists and scientists are pushing for independent auditing. Learn more about the Alliance for Cannabis Science at www.allianceforcannabisscience.org..."And then, my response to some of the snide comments here: http://tinyurl.com/5wbpbcs Thank you sooo much!! :)
Weed Science
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Comment #8 posted by Storm Crow on March 28, 2011 at 11:13:42 PT
If he wants a REAL danger to go after....
He really ought to read these! CDC survey finds 1 in 5 youths abuse prescription drugs
http://theindependent.com/articles/2010/06/14/news/local/11933411.txtSniffing Trumps Weed for 12-Year-Olds -
Potentially Lethal Inhalants More Commonly Used by 12-Year-Olds than Marijuana, Cocaine and Hallucinogens Combined
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/11/health/main6289221.shtmlRead that second part of the CBS title again. "Potentially Lethal Inhalants More Commonly Used by 12-Year-Olds than Marijuana, Cocaine and Hallucinogens COMBINED"! Our kids are using "potentially lethal" drugs at epidemic rates! And this fool is worried that a few of them might choose to "get a giggle" from toking on a joint- when all the while, many more are slowly (or sometimes, not so slowly) killing themselves "huffing" LEGAL and very common, inhalants that can be found in virtually every household! Or maybe they'll hit grandma's medicine cabinet and "play fruit salad" (take a variety of pills at one time to see the effect). This isn't a new problem. I observed it in the 60s and 70s. But with more "Paxil"s and "oxycontin"s being passed out to our aging population, I expect this problem to get even worse! Our children ARE at risk, but not from cannabis! Where the #*&% are his priorities???
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Comment #7 posted by BGreen on March 27, 2011 at 18:03:07 PT
Breaking News! - Kids Caught Drinking Alcohol!
The only plausible action is to COMPLETELY BAN ALCOHOL FROM ALL ADULTS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY!....I'm waiting!....Yeah, right. There is no other substance that we treat like that, whether the poisonous alcohol or the poisonous pharmaceuticals, besides the SAFEST CHOICE OF ALL, CANNABIS!These idiots know full well that at least one out of ten elementary students are on amphetamines or related drugs and those drugs are brought to school and then dispensed to these children by school employees.HYPOCRITES!!!!!!Arm yourself with knowledge because we have a HUGE battle coming up with these liars.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #6 posted by GeoChemist on March 27, 2011 at 17:48:57 PT
But Med-Meth is A-OK
Adderral and Ritalin are handed out like candy for ADD and other behavioral problems; how about an old-fashioned ass whipping instead of the meth?
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Comment #5 posted by herbdoc215 on March 27, 2011 at 13:41:28 PT
Sorry about leaving word out...it was on purpose..
as Grandma said I was cussing to much in my frustration with govt and I'd win over more folks with PG language and for me to try and use less :) so I am 'self-restraining' my vocabulary for awhile and see if that helps any:)
Peace, Steve
"Kids get sick just like adults plus can't tolerate opiates worth "a *&^%" and because of LD10 ratios of which makes cannabis a God sent miracle and anybody who says different is an idiot."
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Comment #4 posted by herbdoc215 on March 27, 2011 at 11:52:15 PT
I wonder if Glen Welch would like to match his
Knowledge about ANYTHING against mine and we'll see how much damage medical cannabis does to your brain as I've pulled over 12 years of college making the deans list every semester at several universities while a patient and have quite a few other accomplishments under my belt. So Glen you wanna take an IQ test against my brain damaged self, or any other kind of test or maybe even a logical debate as the lies and misinformation your spreading just may kill somebody someday if it hasn't already. Kids get sick just like adults plus can't tolerate opiates worth and because of LD10 ratios of which makes cannabis a God sent miracle and anybody who says different is an idiot. Peace, Steve Tuck
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Comment #3 posted by aslader on March 27, 2011 at 09:39:30 PT:
Glen Welch - a staggering absence of intellect
Its LEOs, the republicans and especially people like Welch that are, thankfully, almost a minority in Montana nowadays. Yet their regurgitated reefer-madness propaganda has been tolerated for too long. "Just because you have a card doesn't mean you don't damage your brain," to quote Welch..I think a sentence, in this case, is worth a thousand words. At the very least, close-minded individuals such as Essmann, Welch, and Milburn, to name a few, should need to spend more time worrying about relevant issues, and less about someone miles away that in no situation concerns him.
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Comment #2 posted by The GCW on March 27, 2011 at 09:37:18 PT
Interesting in Cali.
US CA: Column: Medical Marijuana Situation Not So HazyPubdate: Sun, 27 Mar 2011
Source: North County Times (Escondido, CA)http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v11/n202/a08.html?397In the ongoing pot wars between the voters ( who approved medical marijuana in 1999 ) and their hired help ( the elected politicians who continue to defy voters and throw up roadblock after roadblock in the face of medical marijuana dispensaries ), the same argument keeps cropping up: The conflict between the voter-approved state law legalizing medical use of marijuana and existing federal laws banning it leave California's cities and counties stuck in the middle. For those politicians who are mostly interested in providing the appearance of abiding by voters' directives while actually thumbing their noses at them, it's a great argument to trot out. Unfortunately for said politicians, the law is settled on this point ---- and not on their side. And it's been settled law for more than a century and a half. In 1793, Congress passed the Fugitive Slave Law ---- which said that any slave who escaped to a free state had to be returned to his or her rightful "owner." Northern abolitionists were disgusted by this law, and many northern state legislatures passed laws designed to counter this and provide safe haven for escaped slaves seeking their freedom. Things came to a head when a bounty hunter named Edward Prigg was arrested for taking a black woman and her children from Pennsylvania back to her purported "owners" in Maryland. Pennsylvania authorities had Prigg arrested, and he was tried and convicted. Cont.
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Comment #1 posted by runruff on March 27, 2011 at 07:34:23 PT
Passion, politics and pumpernickel!
If only Sen. Jeff were as passionate about feeding and housing homeless and starving children as he is about protecting them from a harmless plant.How about the damage done to kids in homes with abusive parents who drink too much? Who is most notorious for drinking and spousal abuse? Cops are tops in the statistical count by far. So How much measurable damage by the plant can they show? How much harm by alcoholic cops can be shown? Early 20TH century doctors prescribed cannabis to men who drank too much or were spouse abusers. One home over the other would be healthier for kids, don't you think?This same idiot is for defunding schools, med services and food programs to who? Children, that's who!The hypocrisy is just too palatable to ignore. This man is a political marionette and an idiot!
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