Pot Bill Sparks Rift

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  Pot Bill Sparks Rift

Posted by CN Staff on April 29, 2010 at 04:34:07 PT
By Gene Davis, DDN Staff Writer 
Source: Denver Daily News  

Colorado -- As the heated battle over medical marijuana reform enters its fourth month at the state Legislature, ideological disagreements between competing pro-marijuana groups are starting to blow into the open.Following a Senate committee’s approval of a bill Tuesday night that would in part allow local jurisdictions to ban medical marijuana dispensaries from operating within city limits, the Cannabis Therapy Institute (CTI) issued a press release slamming Coloradans for Medical Marijuana Regulation (CMMR) as being “a lobbying group hired by a handful of well-funded dispensaries who have been ‘working with’ (bill sponsor) Senator Romer on gaining concessions friendly to big business.” 
The press release added that medical marijuana attorney, CMMR representative and Sensible Colorado Director Brian Vicente is “overall satisfied with the bill that would eliminate 80 percent of patient’s caregivers.”However, Vicente said he opposes the bill in its current form. He spent about 40 minutes clarifying his group’s position with Laura Kriho of CTI and is trying to get on the same page as the activist group, he said.“I think at this point, people on both sides of the debate are really frustrated and tired of dealing with this issue,” he said. “I think tempers are getting short.”For her part, Kriho said that Vicente has spoken in favor of House Bill 1284, though he opposed additional amendments that were tacked onto the bill at the last minute. She believes that anyone in favor of HB 1284 is in favor of harming the state’s sick medical marijuana patients; Sen. Chris Romer, D-Denver, has said he intends for the measure to put 80 percent of dispensaries out of business.Meanwhile, Romer said he has noticed tension between the activists who want marijuana to be legalized and those who want it for medicinal purposes.“It’s kind of like back in the old gold rush days where they’re so busy protecting their claim, they don’t even have time to run to the store and get picks and shovels,” he said.Vicente, Kriho and Mason Tvert of Safer Alternative Alternatives for Enjoyable Recreation are all united, however, in opposing HB 1284 in its current form. HB 1284 would create a state medical marijuana licensing board run by the Department of Revenue. Under the measure, dispensaries — referred to as “centers” in the bill — would have to get a state, local and cultivation license to sell medical marijuana to patients.Specifically, Vicente argued that allowing municipalities to ban dispensaries would force sick patients to travel great distances to get their constitutionally protected medicine. He also said an amendment proposed by Romer that would ban people under the age of 21 from being able to enter a medical marijuana center would be a form of age discrimination.Kriho believes the bill would destroy patients’ access to their medicine, drive up prices and force patients back to the black market.Meanwhile, Romer said he is looking out for the patients’ best interest with the legislation. “My job was to write a medical marijuana bill consistent with the voters’ intent of Amendment 20,” he said. Amendment 20 was the measure approved by voters in 2000 that allows for seriously ill Coloradans to use medical marijuana. HB 1284 now moves to the Senate Appropriations Committee.Source: Denver Daily News (CO)Author: Gene Davis, DDN Staff WriterPublished: Thursday, April 29, 2010 Copyright: 2010 Denver Daily NewsContact: editor thedenverdailynews.comURL: Medical Marijuana Archives 

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Comment #28 posted by FoM on May 04, 2010 at 06:20:21 PT
Thank you. It would be nice to have HD but since I love collecting certain movies and concerts maybe buying them in Blu Ray is a way to not have to put out lots of extra money a month. Neil Young's Trunk Show is going to be released soon and I'm sure it will be offered in Blu Ray. I don't want to give up any of the channels I am getting now with DirecTV and they know how to make a person pay for a better package by keeping one or two of those channels out of a less expensive package. Maybe with the economy prices will drop. I would be so happy if they ran cable out our road. 
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Comment #27 posted by Dankhank on May 03, 2010 at 22:56:30 PT
HD ....
is nice, on our main TV ... I have a small 1080i tv next to my desktop that I use, mostly. And the second output from the HD DVR is only 480i, so when I need a HD fix I turn the big un on..I usually use my little un ...All movies were originally shot in extremely high film quality, have to be to still look good on a movie screen, so I find myself checking some movies I've seen, again, on a HD channel. It's amazing, even the old stuff is pretty good. No rush, we just found a good deal and jumped on it. We were slower getting 1080p TV. You can check some shows on, they stream in pretty good quality.We can hook a computer to our TV's if we want and now can surf on a 42inch monitor ... pretty crazy stuff, these days ...
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on May 03, 2010 at 20:01:34 PT
Thank you. I really want to get HD but it is so easy to wait these days. I will let you know when and if we go ahead with getting HD. I'm sure we will sooner or later.
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Comment #25 posted by dankhank on May 03, 2010 at 19:38:49 PT
cost ...
at your level ... look for 20 or 30 more after any incentives ... the dish folks will give you all the fax.there's a DVR rental fee ... and an HD surcharge, I think 10 for each if I remember ...
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on May 03, 2010 at 11:25:34 PT
I do want to get MSNBC but we don't watch Fox either. Will it cost much more then the $60 I am paying to get HD with Dish? I mean after a year of a reduced price. 
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Comment #23 posted by Dankhank on May 03, 2010 at 11:05:47 PT
for a while we didn't even have the 200 channel ... it would mean that we would have given money to Fox.
I upgraded to 200 before the last election to see Rachel M.confusion to FFFFOX ......on thing the SatTV folks know is how to market ...
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on May 01, 2010 at 06:42:21 PT
Thank you. We are thinking about switching to Dish. I am concerned the price will wind up costing a lot more then what we pay now. That's why we are moving so slow about upgrading to HD. Right now we pay $60 a month. The 200 channel deal they have doesn't have National Geographic or the Science Channel. It does have MSNBC though.
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Comment #21 posted by dankhank on April 30, 2010 at 20:16:29 PT
Dish vs Direct
had Direct for 10 years and when inquired about upgrade to HD was told they would sell me anything I wanted, no incentive for a long term customer, at all.switched to dish, got free HD rcvr for year, free HD programming for a year, free installation. changed immediately.don't have any antenna problems.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on April 30, 2010 at 14:21:15 PT
We've been pleased with DirecTV but you can't get any real deals if you want to upgrade to HD. I'd miss my TV if I didn't have it. I also use a wireless card and worry about getting hassled by Verizon for a large use of bandwidth if I had to depend only on the Internet.
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Comment #19 posted by augustwest on April 30, 2010 at 14:02:09 PT:
dish v. direct
I installed both for a while when i lived in florida. I was told that direct tv has a lot more sattelites so they are less likely to lose signal. After hurricane ivan direct customers were back up the next day if they still had a dish. Dish lost the local signal station and was down for a month. This winter i had direct in co and still had a great pic with 4 feet of snow on my dish. I just cancelled our service and mostly watch netflix and hulu now. 
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 19:07:56 PT

I know you're right. That is great about Facebook. I only post news on Facebook. CNews keeps me constantly looking for news to post. I go to a couple forums about the breed of dog we have. It is different and I get to use my animal training experience from years ago and help people. I like that.
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Comment #17 posted by dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 18:42:37 PT

monies ...
are tight and well worth watching over ... we all want to enjoy the fruits of our society and can, if we watch. I know you have had you TV for a while ... glad you got it.Tomorrow, we are putting a new hot water heater in ... costs as much as the TV, but cheaper by 350 than 5 other plumbers ... just gotta shop hard ...
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 18:30:21 PT

Our blu ray player plays all kinds of CDs and DVDs too. That is nice to have in one player. It was on sale the day of Avatar's release for $78.00. That was too good a price not to buy one.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 18:27:41 PT

We waited to get our TV too. We couldn't have afforded what they were but ours was about $1200 and we've had it a couple of years and since we watch a good deal of tv it was worth it. I will enjoy watching Taking Woodstock. If it isn't too much I will buy it for Christmas. With our income really low now I weigh everything we spend money on very carefully. I know many people are doing the same thing.
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Comment #14 posted by Dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 18:15:44 PT

Takin' ...
Taking Woodstock is about what happens when half a million hippies come to your neighbor hood. It so reminds me of when 400K or so hippies came to Central Georgia in 1970 for the 2nd Atlanta Pop.that one was as earth shaking as the prototypical event in upstate NY. When I travel to Denver I see kids who tell me their parents went to Woodstock. I tell them to see the movie to learn what their parents were doing. :-)
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Comment #13 posted by Dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 18:11:00 PT

BD programming ...
We pride ourselves on watching for the good deals ...
when everyone was spending 2,3K+ for FlatTV we got our 32inch for 650 ...three years later, we stepped up to 42inch 1080P for ... 700
and less than 150 for BD DVD with DivXThe personal computer and the internet were invented by stoners, and Timothy Leary was entranced by the possibilities of the internet when he watched the movie "war games." High Tech comes natural to freaks ... I learned how to repair computers because it was fascinating ...the ability to inform is the reason for the internet ...I have a facebook account with 2700, almost, friends. when I post info 2700 people from around the world see it and if they repost it will go, to their friends and then to their friends ... on for a long time. It's and amazing idea.I have sent the CRL to New Zealand, Florida, NC, Canada, Iowa anywhere anyone wants one. Fantastic ...

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Comment #12 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 17:57:49 PT

Thank you. We are considering getting HD with Dish. We have been like you were with DirecTV for a long time (15 years now) but I think all in all Dish is less expensive. Our tv is an LCD HD 1080P too. It's 47 inches and we love it. I loved Avatar. We watched it 3 times and I will watch it again probably this weekend. The special effects are amazing. I haven't seen Taking Woodstock but will at some point. 
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Comment #11 posted by dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 17:40:49 PT

yes, we upgraded to Dish HD, they had a real deal ...Free HD receiver, rebates that make it free to use for a year,The quality of the HD programming is breathtaking ... so good it looked "fake?" somehow for the first few weeks ... like you could just step in there. Regular shows in HDef are amazing.Our other flat TV is a LCD, 1080i, and dish looked pretty good on it, but when we got the 1080P ... it staggered us. Dish broadcasts in 1080i for programming, but pay per view is 1080P ... it's all amazing with a 1080P TV.Got a "Phillips" BD DVD ... BD is the new name for HD, since there used to be a HD DVD that went away.
It also plays DivX, ... love the Phillips ...
We went to see Avatar 3D and it was freakin' awesome, last week I downloaded a good copy ... and then we bought the BD DVD, at sams the other day ... It's a great movie and awesome in Blu=Ray.I love that movie ...Rented "Taking Woodstock" in Blu-Ray, too ... amazing ...these are my two most favorite movies, these days.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 15:03:33 PT

We watch MSNBC during the day and Jon Stewart and Letterman at night. We watch Animal Plant and those channels but nothing else.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 15:02:10 PT

Did you get HD programming? We still haven't. We did buy a blu ray player when Avatar was released and it is the most amazing special effects I have ever seen. I put in the regular DVD that comes with the Blu Ray version and it pales to the blu ray version.
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Comment #8 posted by Dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 14:36:55 PT

TV ...
can be a sea of crabola, if not managed properly ...We have never watched a single reality show, ever, well ... I think we watched "star search" a few times ... long ago.We just purchased our first 1080P, Phillips 120 Hz 42-incher, that has a USB jack on the side allowing playing supported formats directly from a USB stick, including DivX.Gotta love Phillips ... :-)
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Comment #7 posted by Sam Adams on April 29, 2010 at 09:24:53 PT

laughable lies
>>“My job was to write a medical marijuana bill consistent with the voters’ intent of Amendment 20,” he said. Amendment 20 was the measure approved by voters in 2000 that allows for seriously ill Coloradans to use medical marijuana.Sure, all the voters just missed the fine print...when they voted for allowing "use and distribution" of medical cannabis, they REALLY meant "use and distribution AFTER paying the government a $50,000 bribe", yep, it must have been down there at the bottom in a small font or something.
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Comment #6 posted by runruff on April 29, 2010 at 09:18:05 PT

I watch TV on line.
I have not turned on the TV in months.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on April 29, 2010 at 08:31:57 PT

Thank you. We watch it almost every night and won't miss tonight!
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Comment #4 posted by dankhank on April 29, 2010 at 08:07:46 PT

I voted ....
in the poll, almost 50% favor legalize ...MMj on Daily show 2night ... don't miss it ...
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Comment #3 posted by Jim Leighton on April 29, 2010 at 06:26:56 PT:

simplify and focus
Cannabis is medicine , cannabis is recreational , cannabis creates industry , no debates will harm these facts ,but those who oppose the movement of cannabis into the mainstream will try to stall , lie , remain ignorant and try to confuse the issues . Tolerant people should be aware of the present and coming wave of resistance to our efforts . We are pushing forward with the experiance and knowledge of cannabis , they are resisting because either they are paid to or they are misinformed , either way , they will not go away easily . Medical,recreational,industrial proponents of cannabis unite , send a clear message ,simplify our stand for the sake of showing the public how great a change legal cannabis will make .
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Comment #2 posted by CropReport on April 29, 2010 at 06:08:47 PT

Let's just jump to the conclusion
The bill will effectively limit the number of large for-profit enterprises, which I'm not so sure is a bad thing. The interesting factor is the sub-license 5+1 caregivers. These providers will simply "walk between the raindrops", largely unnoticed and virtually unregulated.By the time any of this is implemented, California will have already legalized for 21 and over. Once that state becomes a canna-tourism destination, all pretense of "medical" and "access" will be a well remembered joke.Let's stop pretending and just get it done. Legalize it! -CR

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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on April 29, 2010 at 05:24:51 PT

How do you feel about the spread of medical marijuana dispensaries in Summit? 
 _It's about time, pot should be legal for all adults 
 _If it helps people, that's fine. Doesn't mean pot should be totally legal. 
 _It's ridiculous. Sends a terrible message to our kids, tourists. 
 _Don't like it much but understand why it's happening. 
 _Sick of hearing about it!
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