Morley Safer Reports On Proposition 215 

Morley Safer Reports On Proposition 215 
Posted by CN Staff on September 20, 2007 at 13:54:14 PT
Produced By David Browning
Source: CBS News 
(CBS) -- The idea was a noble one: pass a law to make marijuana legal for cancer and AIDS sufferers whose pain and nausea the drug is known to relieve. But the law the Rev. Scott Imler thought would one day put the drug in pharmacies has instead created "pot dealers in storefronts" who sell to anyone with doctors' notes that are fairly easy to obtain. 60 Minutes correspondent Morley Safer speaks to Imler and others for a report on medical marijuana, this Sunday, Sept. 23, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. 
Imler admits the noble idea turned out to be a pipe dream. "I think there's a lot of [people just buying the drug to get high]," he tells Safer. "A lot of what we have now is basically pot dealers in storefronts." Imler lives in California, one of 12 states to pass a medical marijuana bill. To pass California's Proposition 215, Imler says many more types of patients besides cancer and AIDS sufferers had to be included. "They all have their lobbies. The kidney patient and the heart patient," says Imler. That led to a blanket law covering anyone with pain, setting the stage for the easy-to-get doctor's notes and hundreds of storefront marijuana "clubs." "It's just ridiculous the amount of money going through these cannabis clubs," Imler tells Safer. Don Duncan, an owner of three medical marijuana clubs in California, says abuse is to be expected as it occurs with prescription drugs as well. "There's bound to be abuse in the system," says Duncan. "What we really need right now are regulations that address those issues." The "clubs" are supposed to be comprised of patients who grow marijuana for the sole reason of distributing it to fellow members, but Imler says, "Most of these cannabis centers are buying their marijuana off the black market. They're dumping millions of dollars into the criminal black market." This has not escaped the notice of federal officials, for whom the drug is still illegal under federal law. One of Duncan's clubs was raided by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. Shutting down the clubs solves one problem, but could affect the quality of life for people like William Leahy, who suffers from vascular degeneration. "I have a deformity here," he says, pointing to his hip, "and a great deal of pain and discomfort. [The clubs] help me with that," says Leahy. Imler says it's time for the federal government to step up for people like Leahy. "We only saw the local cannabis programs as a stopgap measure on the way to the federal government rescheduling it and making [marijuana] available in the pharmacy like regular medicines are. Until that happens, we're going to have what we have now, which is chaos."Complete Title: The Debate On California's Pot Shops: Morley Safer Reports On Proposition 215 Source: CBS News (US Web)Published: September 20, 2007Copyright: 2007 CBS Broadcasting Inc.CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archives
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on September 24, 2007 at 13:02:42 PT
As far as I know.Thanks for the link. I didn't know other snakes ate copperheads. We're careful not to kill non-venomous snakes. We have quite a few red tail hawks around here.I'm sure cats help. Especially those hunting type mama cats.The one time I found a copperhead in the house, I was catless. I went and adopted a cat that had been offered to me earlier in the week, that very day.Cat's are good. I told my doctor about it today. She said it would have killed my granddaughter, little as she is, had it bitten her. She said Jack Russel terriers are great snake killer dogs to have around.Her nurse said she was barely bitten on the toe by one when she walked into her house, wearing flip flops, one night a couple of years ago. It just grazed her and stung, bled, and hurt but she didn't get bad and have to have anti-venom. It slithered out the door and under the porch before they could kill it.Watch those thresholds and steps! I'm very jumpy today.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on September 24, 2007 at 08:29:07 PT
I found this link and thought it was interesting. Copperheads have natural predators and that's good. I'm beginning to appreciate my outdoor cats more and more.Excerpt: Coyotes, cats, red-tailed hawks, and snakes such as milk snakes, black racers, and kingsnakes prey upon the Copperhead.
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on September 24, 2007 at 08:13:23 PT
Is everything going ok today? 
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on September 24, 2007 at 08:04:20 PT
Thank you, Afterburner
In the midst of all this sorrow, still, some great Grace can be found.
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Comment #49 posted by afterburner on September 24, 2007 at 07:53:28 PT
Amen, Hope
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on September 24, 2007 at 06:23:47 PT
On the other hand...
For you, Afterburner, and anyone else who is a Believer. A Grace happened last night. I hope you'll thank God with me.My three year old granddaughter ran out the back door of their living room last night onto a porch, looking for her daddy. She was barefoot. Suddenly they heard her screaming. My son ran out another door, looking for her, because of her screams.She ran right across the top of a huge, three foot long copperhead laying along the threshold. When she turned around to go back inside she saw the snake and started screaming.I'm so thankful that the snake didn't bite her and I'm so thankful she saw it when she turned around and didn't approach it again.It still nearly takes my breath away. Thank God with me, please, those of you who believe in Him.
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on September 24, 2007 at 06:13:06 PT
That's horrible. God only knows how much harm our government has bestowed on us all. This is a dismaying story, too. SentenceExcerpt: It's A Government Program Whose Impact Rivals the New Deal. It Pushes Whole Communities Out of Society's Mainstream. It Costs Tens of Billions of Dollars a Year. Scholars Are Just Beginning to Understand How Prison Is Reshaping the Country.WHAT if America launched a new New Deal and no one noticed? And what if, instead of lifting the unemployed out of poverty, this multibillion-dollar project steadily drove poor communities further and further out of the American mainstream?That's how America should think about its growing prison system, some leading social scientists are saying, in research that suggests prisons have a far deeper impact on the nation than simply punishing criminals.Fueled by the war on drugs, "three-strike" laws, and mandatory minimum sentences, America's prisons and jails now house some 2.2 million inmates - roughly seven times the figure of the early 1970s. And Americans are investing vast resources to keep the system running: The cost to maintain American correctional institutions is some $60 billion a year.For years sociologists saw prisons - with their disproportionately poor, black, and uneducated populations - partly as mirrors of the social and economic disparities that cleave American life. Now, however, a new crop of books and articles are looking at the penal system not just as a reflection of society, but a force that shapes it.
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Comment #46 posted by afterburner on September 24, 2007 at 03:07:52 PT
Hope #43
"Sadly, a lot of people may find themselves someday wishing they hadn't been so smug and smart ass about it all."Sadly, the federal government will not pay reparations for their cannabis bungle -- unless the US Supreme Court makes a different ruling!Here's why:"The Clan of One-Breasted Women" by Terry Tempest Williams, 1991 
When the Atomic Energy Commission described the country north of the Nevada Test Site as virtually uninhabited desert terrain, my family members were some of the "virtual uninhabitants." . . . On May 10, 1984, Judge Bruce S. Jenkins handed down his opinion. Ten of the plaintiffs were awarded damages. It was the first time a federal court had determined that nuclear tests had been the cause of cancers. For the remaining 14 test cases, the proof of causation was not sufficient. In spite of the split decision, it was considered a landmark ruling. It was not to remain so. In April 1987, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Judge Jenkins' ruling on the basis that the United States was protected from suit by the legal doctrine of sovereign immunity, the centuries-old idea from England in the days of absolute monarchs. In January 1988, the Supreme Court refused to review the appeals court decision. To our court system, it does not matter whether the United States government was irresponsible, whether it lied to its citizens, or even that citizens died from the fallout of nuclear testing. What matters is that our government is immune: "The King can do no wrong." . . . The fear and inability to question authority that ultimately killed rural communities in Utah during atmospheric testing of atomic weapons was the same fear I saw being held in my mother's body. Sheep. Dead sheep. The evidence is buried. 
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 20:06:42 PT
I've sent you an e-mail.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on September 23, 2007 at 19:29:02 PT
 It is a miracle and a wonder. Cannabis, I mean.Exactly.
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 19:10:53 PT
It was very biased, if not outrageously blatantly so. They tried to keep it subtle, except for trying to entrap the doctor. But it was biased. The more I think about it, the more I recognize that it was.And of course that was that smug smile on Safer's face the whole time.They may not think it's all so funny and be so smug about it some day, I fear. Sadly, a lot of people may find themselves someday wishing they hadn't been so smug and smart ass about it all.In the real world, in reality, in the reality of the situation, they should be ashamed. A safe medicine that is so helpful without harming. What kind of miracle is that. It is a miracle and a wonder. Cannabis, I mean.
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 19:02:38 PT
The way I see it is smoking is taboo anymore in our culture. I was nervous when we were at the fair and I wasn't sure if we could smoke. How strange times are now. We don't see people taking pills on commercials we only see butterflies and happy dreams. 
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 18:55:50 PT
They did show an excessive amount of smoking, now that you mention it. I saw a vaporizer in the background at one point. They didn't show anyone using that. Just joints and a smoky pipe. In fact there seemed to be a rather unnatural amount of smoke around that pipe, now that I think of it.They showed baking sweets, but they didn't show anyone eating them.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 18:23:27 PT
Transcript of 60 Minutes on Medical Marijuana
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 17:50:07 PT
What I didn't like was showing people smoking. Show the plant and show the clones and show the processed cannabis but showing people smoking is not necessary. They don't show people slurping down a couple shots of some alcoholic drink on a commercial. 
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 17:44:59 PT
They did try to trap a doctor...
and did make him look kind of bad.One woman got a script because her feet hurt from wearing high heels. He should have just told her to quit the high seems to me. But they had to get some sensationalism in there, I guess.The doctor handled the confrontation about it as well as he could. I think of course, that he'll have to be more careful. People shouldn't go in and lie to doctors like that. That's a fools game and they shouldn't do it. It's not fair to the doctors. It just make them doubtful of people who are telling the truth.That was just unnecessary ugliness. People always trying to trap or incriminate people in something. That's just wrong.I guess they think they're being cute trying to make fools of people. I hate that.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 17:37:22 PT
A friend and I watched it and I agree that Scott said the federal laws need to be changed and that was right.
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Comment #36 posted by whig on September 23, 2007 at 17:07:03 PT
I'll have to look for it on the intertubes now. I'm glad it went well.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 16:38:45 PT
It's done.
What do you guys think?I didn't think Imler really said anything bad. It needs to be legal Federally.
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 16:37:36 PT
Something interesting
apparently on tomorrow's evening news with Katy Couric, called The Seeds of Life. I think it's at least partially about cannabis.
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on September 23, 2007 at 16:36:08 PT
It wasn't bad.
I am pleasantly surprised.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 14:25:04 PT
I am not optimistic about it either.
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Comment #31 posted by whig on September 23, 2007 at 13:55:28 PT
I'm not looking forward to the CBS piece. I think it will be a smear job on the dispensaries. All of the ones I have dealt with have been very good to me. Saying that their supplies come from the "black market" is nonsense, they are caregivers who are providing medicine to the sick. I won't say that there aren't shady dispensaries, I just haven't dealt with one.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 13:49:08 PT
Tonights 60 Minutes Will Be Viewed By Many People
I think about everyone will tune into 60 minutes tonight because of the main feature story so lets hope this is well done because it will have a lot of impact I believe.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on September 23, 2007 at 10:19:47 PT
60 Minutes Tonight
I am really looking forward to this piece on 60 Minutes. I believe Morley Safer is on our side but I could be wrong. I hope I'm right.
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Comment #28 posted by Toker00 on September 22, 2007 at 21:05:59 PT
Had Enough
Watched them all. Thanks!Toke.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on September 22, 2007 at 07:05:30 PT
Just a Comment
I hope everyone is having a nice weekend. The weather is gorgeous and the leaves are starting to turn colors. We went to a County Fair last night to see the Tractor Pulls and just when the Semi Trucks started and this beautiful yellow Semi had the best start and it took off with the sled and then an accident happened. The sled which advances as you pull broke and the truck took off and the sled and truck collided. They rushed the sled operator to the hospital. He passed out when he opened the door. He will be ok after they stitched him up but the sled wasn't able to be fixed so it shut down the sanctioned pulls for the night. I did get to go see the horses and I enjoyed that alot. That's all but I wanted to mention if I missed articles that is why. 
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Comment #26 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2007 at 06:24:24 PT
Dancing sends a message around the the World
Co-ops…Wouldn’t need them if cannabis were re-legalized.Now that would make people Dance…*****************************Mamas And The Papas - Dancing In The Street Monterey 19674:26 min*****************************Martha & the Vandellas - "Dancing in the Streets" – 1965 appearing on The Sullivan Show.1:56 min*****************************Sugababes & Dusty Stringfield - Dancing in the Street6:48 min. great tribute to a great musician. Song in second part.*****************************Mick Jagger, David Bowie – Dancing in the Street.3:18 min*****************************Carpenters - Dancing In The Street (1968, Edited)1:22 min - first television appearance*****************************The Unconventionals - Dancing In The Street2:34 min*****************************Alex Parks - Dancing in the Street2:59 min*****************************Nikki Webster - Dancing in the Street3:43 min*****************************Yep’er’ people would be dancin’ in the streets.Thanks for the post kroeme.
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Comment #25 posted by Dankhank on September 21, 2007 at 17:02:28 PT
nice ...
I'd be dancing, too, if I was in a co op ...
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Comment #24 posted by whig on September 21, 2007 at 16:48:02 PT
I didn't watch your films yet except for a little bit of the first part, and I don't understand...why were you filming the inside of a coop and doesn't this put patients at risk?Can you at least explain some context? Not everyone can watch videos as well.
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Comment #23 posted by Sam Adams on September 21, 2007 at 10:59:43 PT
No one in favor of medical marijuana should be appearing on 60 minutes saying bad things about Prop. 215. Period. 
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Comment #22 posted by kroeme on September 21, 2007 at 10:55:05 PT:
Videos of Scott Imler's cannabis club
Here's a video I made of the L.A. cannabis club that Scott Imler ran. I had to cut it into two:Part I: Part II: 
Medical Marijuana
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 07:10:32 PT
Isaiah 10: 1-3
 Woe to those who make unjust laws,
    to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights
    and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
    making widows their prey
    and robbing the fatherless. What will you do on the day of reckoning,
    when disaster comes from afar?
    To whom will you run for help?
    Where will you leave your riches? 
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Comment #20 posted by BGreen on September 21, 2007 at 06:58:44 PT
Scott Imler may not be a narc
But Scott Imler doesn't speak as if he's anything but a threat and a mouthpiece for the prohibitionists. He certainly doesn't speak as if he's for us.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 06:07:33 PT
There's more...
I'd just like to say, if anyone has the Spirit of God and reads scripture, he cannot persecute another person for the plants he uses.Anyone who does is a hypocrite and a liar and lets deceiving spirits and demons live in him and guide him... he does not know God.
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Comment #18 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 05:59:41 PT
Genesis 1: 11-12
Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 05:49:11 PT
There's a couple, PatrioticDissension.
And of course, as FoM mentioned, Genesis 1:29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 05:46:02 PT
Colossians 2
Colossians 2 I want you to know how much I am struggling for you and for those at Laodicea, and for all who have not met me personally. My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I tell you this so that no one may deceive you by fine-sounding arguments. For though I am absent from you in body, I am present with you in spirit and delight to see how orderly you are and how firm your faith in Christ is.So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on September 21, 2007 at 05:31:42 PT
In true, unadulterated Christianity, those EXTRA Commandments are things taught by "Deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." 1 Timothy 4:The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
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Comment #14 posted by Toker00 on September 21, 2007 at 03:53:35 PT
And you thought piss tests were bad...
Here's what to expect in the near future. machine is rolling over us like we aren't even there. Because we are not there. We are watching from a distance. Getting tasered for asking a question. The majority of opinions agree that it was justified. All these authorities wanting our body fluids. Not just piss but blood and spit and I guess in some cases, sh*t. People thrown in cages for using a plant. Innocent people gunned down by ignorant law enforcers intent on Protecting the Children. Except the children of drug suspects. They get shot in the back or other mortal areas. Too bad. Collateral damage. Just protecting the...uh...children. Billions spent on keeping little Johnny and Joanie away from the Korporate Kompetition for Meds and Petro products. Wars to keep the Evil Economy throbbing with the blood of innocents the world over. Dividing the People instead of Uniting them. Conquering them instead of Governing them. Fear to replace Freedom. Religious intolerance to replace the compassion and acceptance taught (whisper, wink) by the same Religious Bigots. Bohemian Grovers celebrating the rights of Satan to rule over us and to continue to bite the heels of our children. Skull and Boners who rule by the secrets discussed in dark smokey rooms of Penthouses and Secret Meeting Halls. World leaders groomed by the Bilderbergs and placed on center stage of World Theatre. Rockafellers and Hiltons and Hearsts and Duponts and Clintons and Giulianis wickedly chuckling as they parade their children in front of us to be idolized and jokingly repremanded for what others of us spend years in prison for if not murdered by our "To Protect and Serve The Elite" brothers and sisters.Please don't think I am discrediting any one's efforts to remedy these atrocities. We simply need to put MORE of our words into actions. Actions that bring about Immediate Change. Why? I guess because I just feel like we are running out of time...This is not a War on Drugs. This is a War on American's Civil Liberties and it is time to END IT.Toke.    
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Comment #13 posted by E_Johnson on September 20, 2007 at 20:28:29 PT
Scott is not a narc
Todd got his court papers and found out the narc was woman who hung out with his clique.I hope you get sued for libel for spreading that story, honestly.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on September 20, 2007 at 20:14:07 PT
I believe Genesis 1:29. I also believe that God doesn't make mistakes. 
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Comment #11 posted by The GCW on September 20, 2007 at 19:50:27 PT
PatrioticDissension & POLL,
Wasn't the Christ's 1ST miracle turning water into wine?There is so much to say about cannabis and the Bible.Re-legalizing cannabis is not only Biblically correct it could help earth become closer to God. PatrioticDissension, Have You read about kaneh bosm?-0-POLLDo you believe the U.S. is making progress in Iraq?YESNOVote: Green Collar Worker
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Comment #10 posted by PatrioticDissension on September 20, 2007 at 19:36:22 PT
Ive always wanted to make a giant compilation of bible verses that can be applied to show that cannabis use is not sinful. I find it very peculiar the trend of how so many "sins" have been made up that werent even mentioned in the bible. For instance so many Christians are completely against alcohol use when in fact Jesus drank wine - therefore not sinful. Alcohol prohibition started in the churches...mostly southern.
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Comment #9 posted by The GCW on September 20, 2007 at 18:51:43 PT
Sin of the Priests
What kind of reverend is Rev. Scott Imler?Does this reverend love one another? It sounds like this reverend supports caging humans for using cannabis in place of beer etc.   It sounds like He doesn’t like the concept of humans using cannabis to unwind, but would prefer that people that use cannabis to unwind get caged. That’s not love.If Imler doesn’t like the “criminal black market,” why does He support it as far as cannabis goes?And “federal officials”???You gotta be kidding. They do not, DO NOT deserve respect. Hateful, spiteful, luciferous ……Cannabis prohibition / Sin of the Priests / Malachi 1:6-14 / Scott Imler, what kind of reverend are You?
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Comment #8 posted by fight_4_freedom on September 20, 2007 at 18:24:08 PT:
Michigan Daily Article
Newshawk: Students Fight Back -
Pubdate: Thu, 20 Sep 2007
Source: Michigan Daily (U of MI, Edu)
Copyright: 2007 The Michigan Daily
Contact: editpage.editors
Author: Paul Blumer
Photo: LSA sophomore Chris Chiles, executive director of Students for 
Sensible Drug Policy at the University of Michigan, aims to change 
drug laws and educate students on campus about their legal rights CAMPUS GROUP AIMS TO REFORM DRUG LAWSOrganization Is a Reincarnation of a Defunct GroupLike many University students, LSA sophomore Chris Chiles says drugs 
should be decriminalized.Unlike many University students, he's decided to do something about it.This year, Chiles decided to re-form the University's chapter of 
Students for Sensible Drug Policy, a national group that pushes for 
the liberalization of drug laws. It was formed in 1998, but its 
presence on campus had deteriorated. The University chapter had about 
20 members at the beginning of the school year and now has several 
dozen more students that are considering membership in the group, 
said Chiles, the group's executive director.The organization was initially created after Congress added a clause 
called the Aid Elimination Penalty to the Higher Education Act in 
1998. Under the new clause, students with drug convictions were 
denied access to federal financial aid, including loans, grants and
 work-study.According to the group's website, almost 200,000 students have been 
denied financial aid because of the policy.Last year, Congress scaled back the Aid Elimination Penalty, for 
which SSDP takes partial credit. Under scaled back regulations, the 
clause will affect only students convicted of drug offenses during 
their time as financially-supported students. But Chiles, who has 
never faced drug charges, said more needs to be done by the government."It doesn't make sense to pull students out of school in order to 
decrease drug problems and abuse," he said.Chiles said making drugs illegal creates an underground black market 
and funds violent criminals immersed in the drug trade. He said the 
government should regulate all illicit drugs in a manner similar to 
its dealings with alcohol and tobacco."People are getting tired of wasting tax money on an unwinnable war," 
Chiles said.Drug policy is an issue that divides Americans - but not along the 
traditional expected party lines.LSA junior Justin Zatkoff, chair of the Michigan Federation of 
College Republicans, said opinions on the drug issue are widely split 
within the University's chapter of College Republicans. While some 
think there should be harsher penalties for drug offenses, other 
members take a more libertarian view and side with SSDP.Zatkoff said people should obey all drug laws even though he thinks 
several of these laws may be unjust."While many of us may not agree with the pretense behind the law it's 
important for students to be aware that if they want to take federal 
financial aid they better stay clean," Zatkoff said.SSDP doesn't encourage or condemn drug use by individuals, Chiles said.Chiles said the issue of drug policy affects students on campus 
whether they use drugs or they don't."Certain drugs are dangerous, but we've got to consider how students 
are being harmed more than helped by the war on drugs," Chiles said. 
"Drug users need rehabilitation, not criminal records that prevent 
them from rejoining legitimate society." 
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Comment #7 posted by mayan on September 20, 2007 at 17:55:01 PT
The fed's murder of Peter McWilliams will never be forgotten. If there is such a thing as karma, those responsible for his death ought to be very,very worried.THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...David Ray Griffin's Copenhagen Speech! September Eleventh; Should the truth be revealed or concealed? (video) honor of our veterans, we again call for truth: Years Later: Another Look At Three Claims from UL: seattle in (NYC) Part 1: Meyer: Truthseeker: AE911Truth Twin Towers Evidence Cards: WAS AN INSIDE JOB - OUR NATION IS IN PERIL: other news, someone is trying to warn us... Message from Ron Paul:
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on September 20, 2007 at 17:45:27 PT
I didn't even have a computer when Prop 215 passed in 96 and what I saw on the news always lead me to believe that Dennis Peron was the person that got it going but remember I only saw news and didn't know anything about it at that time. I always in my heart credit Dennis Person for Prop 215. I love Jack Herer too.
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Comment #5 posted by revtombrown on September 20, 2007 at 17:19:54 PT:
Scott Imlar of Los Angeles
Greetings Brethren,Scott Imlar is a narc. He informed on Peter McWilliams and others in LA for his own profit. Nothing said by him should be given any credence - as he has none outside such credible sources as Morley Safer.By the Way, the first intimations of Prop 215 came when Peter Gorman, editor of High times magazine, hosted Dennis Peron and our own Rev. Sam Smith of Our Church in his hotel room at the Norml convention in Washington DC in 1992 or 3. Sam met with Dennis to broach the subject, they worked out the details over seveal hours, and Dennis went back to San Francisco to write and organize the petition drive that resulted in the Initiative 215 being passed. Jack Herer attempted to mount a seperate initiative for hemp legalization that failed to get on the ballot as I recall. I have a picture of Dennis and Jack, united together on election nite 1996 in San Francisco, smoking the Peace Herb to their mutual delight. This has been verified to me as reported by Peter Gorman, by Dennis and Jack.Again, give Scott Imlar a wide berth. He has no honor, nor respect amongst those who actually did the work. He has the blood of Peter McWilliams on his hands.One Love revtombrown.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on September 20, 2007 at 16:23:29 PT
Health Food Stores
Since Cannabis isn't a man made drug and is an herb it should be available in health food stores but not pharmacies because pharmacies are for drugs made by man.
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Comment #3 posted by afterburner on September 20, 2007 at 16:07:48 PT
The Fault Is the Feds'
Rev. Scott Imler was not the only author of Prop. 215, Compassionate Use Act of 1996. He plays into the hands of the feds when he blames the dispenseries. They are not perfect, by any means, but the fault is the federal scheduling and the DEA attacks. {
California has become the abused child of an oppressive regime. Rather than conducting these raids in all states with legislation similar to California's Proposition 215 (enacted to allow using cannabis as an alternative form of treatment for a host of chronic ailments), the feds have decided to flex their muscles here, on our turf.Clinics up and down the state have been raided with aggression, similar to the "Shock and Awe" military doctrine of 1996. The "doctrine of rapid dominance" was employed in the invasion in Iraq four years ago.
Pot Raids Make No Constitutional Sense 
Posted by CN Staff on September 18, 2007 at 06:35:55 PT
By The 49er Staff
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Comment #2 posted by OverwhelmSam on September 20, 2007 at 15:11:51 PT
And Another Reason Why
The Federal Government should go ahead and just change the anti-marijuana laws.In the mean time, the DEA is excalating the war on drugs. What a bunch of losers.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on September 20, 2007 at 13:58:01 PT
Excerpt from 60 Minutes on Medical Marijuana
California's Pot ShopsAn excerpt from a "60 Minutes" broadcast about California's controversial pot shops, where people can buy marijuana for medicinal use.
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