cannabisnews.com: Pot Makes You Crazy Pot Makes You Crazy Posted by CN Staff on November 02, 2006 at 07:53:57 PT By Phaedra Ellington, Assistant Features Editor Source: Exponent Indiana -- Marijuana users beware. This product may cause hallucinations or psychotic behavior. Users may also experience periods where they believe they are a god.Researchers and scientists have been studying the effects of marijuana on the brain for years. Now they are asking themselves a new question. Can marijuana usage cause psychosis? Some say yes, some say no, but one Purdue researcher says maybe."I'm not an expert in (the cannabis-psychosis link) at all," said Julia Chester, an assistant professor in psychological sciences. "It seems those who have used cannabis or marijuana tend to have more problems with psychosis."Psychosis, according to Wikipedia.org, is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state in which thought and perception are severely impaired. Psychosis is thought of as a symptom of a mental illness rather than an actual mental illness itself. But psychosis can occur in people who don't have a chronic mental illness as a result of an adverse reaction to drugs or stress.Studies show the use of cannabis can increase the risk of developing psychosis later on in life. Studies, however, also show that the increased risk of developing psychosis occurs in the individuals who have a predisposition for developing it."They don't really know what the reason is, but basically all responses to substance abuse are due to individual genetic differences," said Chester.Chester said it's possible for long-term smokers to be more at-risk for developing psychosis, especially if the person starts at a young age while the brain is still developing. She said ages 10 to 20 are a critical time when the brain is developing. If a person smokes marijuana, it could effect the connections that are being made."(At these ages) when people smoke marijuana, they kind of retool the wiring. The brain is sensitive to drugs at this time and it can set off changes in the brain that then make the person vulnerable to developing psychosis."Marty Green, clinical social and addiction specialist for Counseling and Psychological Services, said there may be other reasons for why marijuana might trigger psychosis."Not necessarily marijuana makes (psychosis) happen ... any number of drugs can trigger that," said Green. "Pot could be laced or mixed with something. Pot is often laced or mixed with other drugs that can trigger a psychotic response."Although it's still unclear whether other elements aside from cannabis cause psychosis, both Chester and Green agreed that there is still a lot of research to be done on this topic."There's a lot of interesting information about pot out there; some misinformation, some good," said Green, "however, (marijuana) does an interesting dance in the brain." Source: Exponent, The (Purdue U, IN Edu)Author: Phaedra Ellington, Assistant Features Editor Published: November 2, 2006Copyright: 2006 Purdue Student Publishing FoundationContact: opinions purdueexponent.orgWebsite: http://www.purdueexponent.org/CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #123 posted by whig on November 07, 2006 at 21:15:48 PT Anger It does make me respond to those who cause me to be angry though. But I do so from a place of strength and understanding as best as I can. I do not wish to respond to injustice with injustice, and in my opinion the best way to put out a fire is water.In this case, truth quenches lies. [ Post Comment ] Comment #122 posted by whig on November 07, 2006 at 21:13:58 PT museman Here's how I look at it, I am only angry when I think about what is being done now to people who deserve freedom and respect.What does that anger give me? It does not motivate me, it makes me sad, and then I do less than I would.This is what motivates me, the joy of knowing that cannabis can make everything and everyone better. [ Post Comment ] Comment #121 posted by FoM on November 07, 2006 at 19:46:35 PT museman I understand what you are saying. When something really upsets me I get very quiet and sort it out in my mind and during that time I am trying to find a solution that will change what has me angry. I think that is what you are saying too but just in a different way then me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #120 posted by museman on November 07, 2006 at 19:38:09 PT FoM Just as there are degrees, and 'kinds' of wealth, so it is with 'anger'. The distinguishing difference is, as you put it, "what good is it." Anger may not be the best way to deal with circumstance, but there are times when anger provides the necessary motivation and focus to break out of the all too common mold of complacency. Sometimes it is necessary to throw the money changers out of the temple, and if one must get angry to be convincing, so be it.And then there is destructive, uncontrolled reactionary emotion. In another language the distinction might be more defined, but 'anger' is not always destructive. How many times does a person get treated like a throw rug before they say 'enough!' Is that anger? or something else?My 'anger' at marijuana prohibition, is more than just a concern, or a banal topic of occasional debate, as I suspect is true with most of the folks who post here. It is an anger, the same anger that motivates me to do something like write a song, or frame a controversial idea like attempting to point to the greater cause of the over-all disease, rather than expound comfortably with popular subject matter.Anger may be unpleasant, but it is not only necessary in the world we live in, but it is justified beyond denial at this point. The thing is to be productive, or destructive. That like the use of any other tool or device at our disposal is the choice of the individual. [ Post Comment ] Comment #119 posted by FoM on November 07, 2006 at 12:34:11 PT museman I understand your anger but what good is it to be angry? I have no desire to have more then I have. I don't want an SUV or diamonds or anything. I don't even like wasting money on new clothes or shoes. I'm just a simple kind of woman. [ Post Comment ] Comment #118 posted by museman on November 07, 2006 at 12:05:43 PT FoM There is a magic line, dividing the 'wealthy' from the 'over-endowed'. However it is my revelation and experience that it is wealth that powers the machinations of war, death, pollution, this prohibition we speak of here, and every other negative human action, reaction, and inaction which we seek to change. To me this unbalanced system of values which recognise only such empowerment as valid, is the root of all evil on planet earth. I aknowledge that 'this is the way it is' but I can't just lie down and accept it.When I see a poor man standing on the corner by his wife, and sometimes children, with a sign asking for help, and I see all the SUV's, Cadillacs, Mercedes, and other status symbols drive by them without even looking them in the eyes, I see a big problem. I recieve a fixed income of less than $1500 a month, and I drive an old Honda. How many times do you think i have stopped to give them a few dollars? I guarantee it is about 99.9% more than any of those I mentioned.And why is that? Because they have this idea that they are better than the poor who are reduced to begging for survival, and it is an attitude that has a spiritual stink to it. The same smell I get from most republicans (the wealthy flavor), and anybody who has never had to struggle with the basic needs of life and survival.The rich have been dictating the laws, the rules, deciding other peoples destiny than their own since the Nephalim invented the weights and measures of gold and silver so many millennia ago.I suppose that my personal attitude comes from lifetime of experiences of having to bow to money. Not to talent, not to skill, not to knowledge, just money. Knowing that every man woman and child on this earth is born with the same natural inheritance, and that that very same natural inheritance has been stolen, and held for ransom by none other than the concepts of proriety, and the power of accumulated wealth, is just something I cannot support, agree with, or let go of.War is the game of the rich. What powerful rich man's child ever died face down in the mud fighting in their father's war?The rich need not concern themselves with the fact that their toys have practically destroyed our planetary ecological balance. The ultra rich aren't even worried about a nuclear war- they got the underground bunkers in Cheyenne mountain to hide in.You know I could go on and on, For every question about this issue, I have a response that is rooted in reality, in experience, and not just some kind of 'misplaced jealousy' as some defenders of the rich have accused.Y'shua said (and we've had this disussion before) "Verily I say unto you, that it were easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle (not the so-called 'east gate'of ancient Jerusalem) than a rich man to enter into heaven."I understand that the world is steeped in the propaganda of ages, made to believe that wealth and property are the 'qualifiers of existence' but these are all the true followers of 'mammon.' I choose to serve the Higher aspects of The Most High Great Spirit, whose best representative (I know of) to date says not to give credibility to such things. If the world were not constantly throwing these errors in my face, I could easily 'live and let live.' But the truth is, my life as a material being has been co-opted by the few unworthy rich.Any human being can approach me, and until I have tasted their spiritual flavor, I do not know their heart or minds, therefore I cannot 'condemn' them. However Y'shua also said, "You will know them by their works." The works of the wealthy are sins against God, life, and humanity, and their paltry public displays of 'giving to charity' (all organizations, and institutions which give more than 75% of their take to suport the salaries fo their executive employees -who are almost all rich people looking for some kind of meaning in their spiritless lives) just doesn't qualify as true giving, or real 'charity' at all.I wrote a song many years ago called "Why I am an angry man." I don't have a musical rendition to share but here are the lyrics; Angry Man [ Post Comment ] Comment #117 posted by FoM on November 07, 2006 at 11:24:10 PT museman Why do you mind rich people? I don't care if someone is rich or poor. I decide if I like a person on the person themselves. I do feel pity for people who have a lot of material wealth because they miss out on some of the important lessons that only struggling creates. [ Post Comment ] Comment #116 posted by museman on November 07, 2006 at 11:15:16 PT FoM Right now I wish I was a citizen in another country, like Canada - which is America without the 'Conquer the world agenda' I can't even leave because I can't get a passport. You know that evil weed thing. Felony conviction for God growing my plants. Even though it was over 20 years ago - before Reagan declared war on us, God, and marijuana.So I am strapped to the chair of no choice, imprisoned in the cell of forced limitation, held back from any opportunity, just so the children of the rich can cavort at their leisure.It is all I can do to not just radiate pure hatred at these pretenders and posers who rule over us with force, violence, lies, and subterfuge. Who gave them the right? Oh thats right they were 'born' with it. Endowed. Financially empowered from birth.I and so many others worked their asses off just to survive, while these relative few sit in the seat of judgement, make the laws, change the laws to suit their purposes, change the language to reflect their twisted interpretations, all because of the amount of money they have at their disposal, and the power they have because of it. It's just wrong, and needs to be set right. [ Post Comment ] Comment #115 posted by FoM on November 07, 2006 at 10:52:50 PT museman Neil isn't an American citizen. I read where he wants to stay a Canadian citizen. I lost my original birth certificate and there is a way to get another one but I don't remember how. I think I had to call where I was born but it was so many years ago I can't be sure. [ Post Comment ] Comment #114 posted by museman on November 07, 2006 at 10:46:27 PT Hope You are one sharp lady Hope!Damn strait. Deport me back to America- wherever it went to. [ Post Comment ] Comment #113 posted by Hope on November 07, 2006 at 10:40:41 PT "deport me" It's an idiotic struggle you are being forced to go through, Museman. But that would be funny..."Deport me!"Where to?Well of course...back where you came from. That would be the good ole USA.Lol!My daughter was married to a Nederlander. She had to keep up with what color his toothbrush was and he had to know what kind of face creams she used. [ Post Comment ] Comment #112 posted by FoM on November 07, 2006 at 10:39:16 PT museman Weren't you born in the USA? If you were where would they deport you to? [ Post Comment ] Comment #111 posted by whig on November 07, 2006 at 10:36:17 PT museman Deport you where? Guantanamo? [ Post Comment ] Comment #110 posted by museman on November 07, 2006 at 10:14:03 PT FoM Yes, a birth certificate will work, however, not everyone has the benefit of a safe place to keep such documents. With a lot of effort we could probably locate the originals copies on state levels, but that is not the point.Neil won't have to 'prove' his citizenship, because he is wealthy enough not to need medical help from the state. That is my point. For someone who doesn't have to deal with the all the hassles, beaurocracy, socially stigmatic associations, outright prejudice, and class descrimination, such an idea may not seem all that 'big of a deal', but for those of us who have no other options it is an insult and degradation.I, and many others like me, spent a very important part of our lives in 'service' to this country. Now we have to 'prove our citizenship?' It's a disgrace.Now if EVERY citizen had to do it, I wouldn't feel so bad about it, but it is a deliberate slap in the faces of all the poor people... like Bush is saying. "You have no value, and no say. Because you are poor you are a 'security risk."If the give me any more hassle, I am going to tell them to deport me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #109 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 20:31:30 PT museman Neil isn't an american citizen even though his wife and children are. I thought if you are born in the states you became a citizen automatically. Back when I was visiting my son in 93 he told me how women wait until birth is eminent and come over the border for that reason. [ Post Comment ] Comment #108 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 20:28:11 PT museman Won't a birth certificate be enough? [ Post Comment ] Comment #107 posted by museman on November 06, 2006 at 20:07:26 PT FoM There is this thing happening, which a lot of people obviously aren't aware of, or are not talking about. Your link made me think of it.I and my family are having to prove our citizenship. Because I am a disabled veteran, my medical 'benefits' come through the state. The current mandate from the monkeys on high - the one that George signed a few months ago, makes it so no benefits can be given without proof of citizenship.I dredged up all the paperwork I could find, but not good enough. They agreed that the 'fact that I was recieving dsisabilty from the Fed because of my service' ought to be 'proof' enough, but, the marriage license almost 30 years validated, even though constitutional law USED to grant immediate citizenship status to spouses of citizens, apparently that and a number of other rights and priviledges associated with being an American, have gone away.Of course I dare anyone to find an 'american' whose income, or inheritance exeeds $100,000 a year that has been required to 'prove their citizenship.' [ Post Comment ] Comment #106 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 16:51:44 PT Museman The Restless Consumer is one of the best songs on LWW. I know what you mean about voting and does it mean anything or will it change anything. When my husband and I bought tickets to see Neil Young and Crazy Horse in 03 for our 30th Wedding Anniversay I didn't know what to expect because I had never been to a concert like this. It was back in the 70s when I was at a concert last. I was very upset at that time. I felt lost in my own world and couldn't shake the doom I felt because of Bush invading Iraq. I felt hopeless and ashamed. I felt we had no hope and then we saw the play Greendale. I saw in the play and songs what Neil was saying and I became an instant fan of his because I felt I wasn't alone in how I felt. If we at all believed in a different and a better way our time has finally arrived. We shouldn't quit now. We are coming of age when people will have to listen to us. There sure are a lot of us! I think about 75,000,000 or more! That's a bunch of clout!The Inconvenient Truth of Greendale http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2006/11/inconvenient-truth-of-greendale.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #105 posted by museman on November 06, 2006 at 15:57:34 PT FoM#96 That is the song that we learned. "The Restless Consumer." That is my favorite from the album. I hope we get to perform it soon.Political 'solutions' are mere generic bandaids, you know like the ones that you buy from wal-mart that fall off within minutes of putting them on, or worse give you some kind of rash.No point holding our breath, history is after all written by the 'victors'. I would be so happy to think that there was any redeeming value in our political system, to feel that my 'citizenship' was more than just a 'strawman' statistic in the Federal Reserve's books. I would like to feel like an 'American' again, that the special attributes of this land and country were more about it's natural beauty and abundance, rather than it's socio/economic/political/conquest of earth, and all life upon it.I would like to feel, just once, that my vote was FOR something worthy, instead of just a 'message' of my poiltical disagreement with 99.9% of everything that IS political. No representation, Just once i would like my 'political representative' to actually REPRESENT me in some way, any way other than the way they claim to do now, which is to NOT represent me at all.The restless consumer flies around the world each day,with such an appetite for efficiency, and pace.Don't need no more lies [ Post Comment ] Comment #104 posted by jasgrave333 on November 06, 2006 at 14:47:51 PT: FoM http://911-jasgrave333.blogspot.com/There is the "bones" of the subject... and the bigger picture. Hmmm, I use Netscape and IE6 >:Ddat da cause... ?n e way: 'Q-33NY following the trail of 33's to the source.' 911 Micro-soft and Q33NY...??? [ Post Comment ] Comment #103 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 14:21:52 PT jasgrave333 It still came up 403 error. [ Post Comment ] Comment #102 posted by jasgrave333 on November 06, 2006 at 14:20:16 PT: FoM - the picture again http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4924/1331/1600/Bones_333.jpg [ Post Comment ] Comment #101 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 14:17:57 PT jasgrave333 It has been so many years that I barely remember anything about what they taught. It was good at first but then it got bizarre. The only sad thing about leaving was the friends I had made in those two years couldn't talk to me ever again.PS: I get a 403 error when I tried to see the pictures. I am using IE7. [ Post Comment ] Comment #100 posted by jasgrave333 on November 06, 2006 at 14:13:19 PT: FoM " I know how the JW's can twist a person's minds. I was involved with that Organization for two years many years ago and quit. "wow, so you know.Basically; it's a Templars religion. Cross and crown.Proof - 33 and the JW bible (they say is the most accurate and they might be right)5th book of their bible 5th chapter 5th verse 5th word = Jehovah. 5555555 is a significantly big number to numerologists.Happens also; Deuteronomy 5:1-33 ...coincidental with the '10 words' commandments...I'll leave you to draw the dots. Illuminati, Masonary, Templars... well it's all linked some-how back to Cannabis.But for mi new mission; The original flagfor instance Smoke is written 33 times in the 3rd book of the JW bible; Leviticus... coincidence?Luke 23:33 it's all in the 33's... Then there's this Mat 27:33 etc [ Post Comment ] Comment #99 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 13:26:41 PT jasgrave333 I know how the JW's can twist a person's minds. I was involved with that Organization for two years many years ago and quit. [ Post Comment ] Comment #98 posted by jasgrave333 on November 06, 2006 at 13:22:34 PT: psychosis or sanity - Environment & Truth... " Researchers and scientists have been studying the effects of marijuana on the brain for years. Now they are asking themselves a new question. Can marijuana usage cause psychosis? Some say yes, some say no, but one Purdue researcher says maybe. "So the result was; "maybe"?duh!A non-expert on the subject is then quoted... It's only been my healing back to sanity since leaving the psychotic Watchtower cult: http://jasgrave333.blogspot.comEverything in Moderation, be moderate, moderately... 101 - Lions eat it, man smokes it - what takes more intelligence? [ Post Comment ] Comment #97 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 12:47:46 PT Whig I know. I said what I said because I believe it is health issue not a moral issue about what we consume. [ Post Comment ] Comment #96 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 12:40:09 PT museman Basically that is why I can't pay a lot of attention to politics. I will be glad when tomorrow is over. I still have Don't Need No More Lies pounding in my head. [ Post Comment ] Comment #95 posted by museman on November 06, 2006 at 12:23:38 PT FoM OF course, you are welcome. [ Post Comment ] Comment #94 posted by FoM on November 06, 2006 at 12:09:35 PT Museman Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by museman on November 06, 2006 at 11:59:29 PT a sharing I just had to share this. An old friend/fan performed it live, and sent me the link. Hearing it done so well made me feel real good. It's an old song about a continuing situation.lyrics;http://terryhubbard.com/Lyrics/worldofillusion.htmlsong; World Of Illusion [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 19:09:15 PT FoM On the other hand, what food is set before you should be eaten. What goes into a person does not defile them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 17:14:38 PT Whig I'm glad you posted it because then I saw my mistake. Even fish must have fins and scales I think on that one. Shellfish are the garbage disposals of the ocean. [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 17:09:26 PT FoM Sorry, I was not careful in checking before I quoted you either. But the point is still true. We shouldn't eat monkeys or dolphins or anything like that either. [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 17:07:48 PT Whig I said that wrong. Only cloven hoof animals can be used for meat. I messed that up big time. That's why a horse who has a solid hoof shouldn't be eaten. I will try to fix my comment because that was so wrong of me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 17:02:42 PT FoM "I have always believed that meat that is ok to eat must have cloven hooves. Horses don't have cloven hooves and don't chew their cud. In the Old Testament it says not to eat animals with cloven hooves. These are fundamental health laws I believe. Persoanlly it makes me sick like your daughter got sick to even think about eating a horse."The reason for the dietary law is that these mammals are closest in ancestry/relation to humans. They are intelligent and godly beings. [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 16:54:02 PT You are what you eat. Eat well. http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/11/03/first-the-words-then-the-music/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 16:47:45 PT Hope You are what you eat. [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by global_warming on November 03, 2006 at 15:39:59 PT Sounds Like That human portal called Anslinger inhaled and had some Cannabis Visions, guess you cannot explain a jet airplane to somebody who has been living in the jungle of ignorance and fearful superstitions, it is time for whole and decent human beings to come out from under that rock of fear.If you have a suit, a Sunday suit, put on your shoes, wash your face and come out to vote.It is time to place an X on Big Government. [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by Hope on November 03, 2006 at 15:32:21 PT BGreen Horses....Netherlands. The part of the Netherlands she lived in was Friesland. [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 11:48:36 PT Music for the day http://tinyurl.com/yy7dh9 [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by Had Enough on November 03, 2006 at 10:02:31 PT The Monster Frankenstein… was left out.“Indiana -- Marijuana users beware. This product may cause hallucinations or psychotic behavior. Users may also experience periods where they believe they are a god.”Sounds like Anslinger.These are excerpts of Harry J. Anslinger's testimony before a Senate Hearing on marijuana in 1937. "... the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races." "Marihuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death." "You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother." "marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind." "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." Harry Anslinger, U.S. Commissioner of Narcotics, testifying to Congress on why marijuana should be made illegal, 1937. (Marijuana Tax Act, signed Aug. 2, 1937; effective Oct. 1, 1937.) Anslinger was named Director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics when it was formed in 1931 as part of the Treasury Department. Many people believe that he collaborated with industry giants to outlaw cannabis. It is known that Mr. Anslinger was aquainted with both the Hearsts (of Hearst Newspapers), and the DuPonts, of DuPont plastic fame. In the 1930s, Hearst, who owned newspapers (and timber) all over the country, started publishing sensationalist-type "news" stories about marijuana use. These stories, often written by Hearst or Anslinger himself, talked about the "insanity, criminality, and death" caused by smoking marijuana, sometimes after just one joint. This intense propaganda campaign led to a public outcry for anti-marijuana laws in many states. The Federal Government was only too happy to oblige. In 1937, DuPont had just patented a process to make plastics from oil and coal, as well as a new bleaching process for making paper from wood pulp. Also in 1937, the Marijuana Tax Stamp Act was passed, effectively prohibiting possession or use of marijuana. It was claimed to be needed to oversee and coordinate existing state law concerning cannabis. The Popular Mechanics 1938 The Billion Dollar Crop... http://www.jackherer.com/popmech.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 09:36:04 PT BGreen Yeah the riding habits are skin tight! You dirty young man you! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 09:18:25 PT BGreen I was fortunate enough to see the original Spanish Riding School perform in Philadelphia, Pa when I was a teenager. They have knock offs of the SRS but the original only toured one time as far as I know in the states and it was something I will never forget. The Lipizzan is a magnificent animals. They are just a little small compared to the Dutch Warmblood and other Warmbloods. Dressage is a wonderful sport.Video: http://www.spanishridingschool.co.uk/video.htmThe Spanish Riding School Vienna: http://www.classical-dressage.net/articles_of_interest_1.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by BGreen on November 03, 2006 at 09:17:50 PT That's interesting, FoM I don't know a lot about horses or horse breeds, but it was sure cute watching the Dutch girls riding bikes wearing horse riding habits on their way to the school.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 09:05:00 PT BGreen The Dutch Warmblood is one of the most desirable horses in America. They know how to breed the best horses. They almost always cost $30,000 or $40,000 or more.Dutch Warmblood: http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/dwarm.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by BGreen on November 03, 2006 at 09:00:03 PT My Netherlands Horse Experience Was All Good This riding school is a block away from the apartment we rent when visiting Amsterdam. I never heard anything about eating horses, and I can read enough Dutch to know I never ordered it or saw it on the menu.Maybe things are different out in the country?The Reverend Bud Green***************************************************************************Hollandsche ManegeVondelstraat 140Amsterdam, 1054 GTThe NetherlandsHorse riding in the Hollandsche Manège (Dutch horse riding school) is a pleasant leisure activity for a free Wednesday afternoon or Saturday morning. Besides horse riding, you can enjoy a cup of coffee and a newspaper in the marvellous cafe, which is decorated with gold and garlands. Hollandsche Manège was built in 1882 and follows the design of the Spanish Riding School in Vienna. A stately, semicircular entrance leads you to the riding area, where you can smell the horses; there are always girls busy with saddles, brushes, water and food for them. An hour's riding class (minimum age 8 years old) will cost you EUR6.8. The school has 40 horses and 15 ponies. You can only ride inside here; if you prefer riding outside, you should go to Amsterdamse Bos.http://travel.yahoo.com/trip?action=view&pid=457199 [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by FoM on November 03, 2006 at 08:46:06 PT Hope I have always believed that meat that is ok to eat must have cloven hooves. Horses don't have cloven hooves and don't chew their cud. In the Old Testament it says not to eat animals unless they have cloven hooves. These are fundamental health laws I believe. Personally it makes me sick like your daughter got sick to even think about eating a horse.http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=3&chapter=11&version=50 [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by Hope on November 03, 2006 at 08:28:19 PT Eating horses My daughter lived in the Netherlands for a couple of years. Her in-law family tricked her into tasting horse meat. She was devastated. She knew they ate horses, but would not do it herself, until they tricked her into tasting something that they said was not horse, but it really was.She was horrified and still is about the incident.Years ago, I bought a can of Alpo horsemeat for my dog. I gagged when I opened it and put it in his bowl. I never bought it again.Animals have personalities. They have feelings and fears. Pigs do. Cows do. Chickens do. Even fish, to my dismay, have personalities. (I learned this with my little Beta fish (Bon Jovi) that was always so happy to see me every day.) It's a shame and difficult, for me, to kill them, or have them killed, to eat, but adding horses to the list is a lot like adding cats and dogs to the menu, as far as I'm concerned.In Europe, beef is high priced and horse meat is cheap. That's why they eat it and I suppose many have developed a taste for it. It's cheaper than beef for them.But....aaarrrrghh. [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 17:59:20 PT Off Topic But Interesting To Know Amid Allegations, Haggard Steps AsideBy Rocky Mountain News November 2, 2006COLORADO SPRINGS — The Rev. Ted Haggard stepped aside as senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church and resigned today as president of the National Association of Evangelicals amid allegations by a former gay male escort that the two had a three-year sexual relationship.http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5112770,00.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 17:26:56 PT Whig Thanks for thinking of Barbaro. I check every so often on google news. I know that the initial shattered leg and then deadly Laminitis struck and I just couldn't have any hope that he would make it. There is an old saying: "The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man" by Winston Churchill Some people like me don't just think horses are pretty but really get into their minds and learn from them. They are elegant creatures. They have dignity and spirit. They can get fired up and be so calm in the most unlikely circumstances. If you read this article you will see how many people can be touched like I was. It helps me to believe in people.It Takes a Team to Mend a Horsehttp://www.vet.upenn.edu/bellwether/v65/article1.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 17:00:11 PT FoM I'm really glad to hear that Barbaro is still hanging in there, I was just thinking about him recently. [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 16:47:34 PT Dankhank I missed the part about Willie and Horses on CNN but I just got a thank you from New Bolton Center for an e-mail I sent after Barbaro broke his leg. Cool pictures of Barbaro and he is still hanging in there. I bet if he survives they will make a movie out of this terrible horse tragedy.http://www.alumni.upenn.edu/vet/imgs/grazing.jpghttp://www.alumni.upenn.edu/vet/imgs/dean.jpghttp://www.alumni.upenn.edu/vet/imgs/carrot.jpghttp://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/BarbaroPhotos.htmTHANKSGIVING AND WINTER HOLIDAY SAFETY TIPS FOR PETS http://www.vet.upenn.edu/barbaro/thanks/Barbaro_thankyou_holidaypets.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 16:42:06 PT See the hypocrites fall before the truth Ashes, ashes.All fall down. [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 16:24:53 PT gw Yes I do, but it is everyone's recipe. And everyone can make it today. Manna is falling in Berkeley. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 16:20:33 PT I'm voting Yes It is time My Yes will mix with every other YesYes to a better and healthier happy world.Forget Not The IceThat is melting [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 16:05:48 PT so sorry whig it is nice that you are baking bread, down home warmth and hospitality, do you have a recipe for the bread of life? [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 15:51:34 PT Bake your life away it's ok, while some city is burning,enjoy the taste of your fruitswith each bite into breadremembertwinkle [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 15:43:00 PT gw I'd rather be a baker, then. Have you ever made bread? [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 15:42:25 PT Whig The two men that have been working on our home over the summer are artists to me. The drywall is beautiful and so is the wood trim. I call them artists to their face. It has all been done without any blueprints. [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 15:40:31 PT hey whig carpenters are also used to make crosses, reminders designed to punish those citizens who do not accept the 'rule of law'. [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 15:36:50 PT Hello PB I like the way you say it, let them pay for this expensive madness.You sound like a mean and nasty citizen, my hat is off and I salute you, and I hope you have teethe, it is also my stolen tax dollar that props up this costly folly.GBfromGW [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 15:34:39 PT FoM Creativity can be in other directions than art, I think. Though everything created can be appreciated artistically too. A carpenter who makes a table makes a functional piece of furniture which can still be beautiful to look at. [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by publicbulldog on November 02, 2006 at 15:12:37 PT: souder's home cooked study Can't be taken at face value. This is another 10 pound monkey study straight out of the bible belt. Let them buy this load. Let them pay for the prohibition. Let the fear resistant states be what they want to be SOUDER. Let indiana buy the fear and pay for the fear. [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by global_warming on November 02, 2006 at 15:10:58 PT Hey, Indiana "Indiana -- Marijuana users beware. This product may cause hallucinations or psychotic behavior. Users may also experience periods where they believe they are a god."Did she mean Marijuana users beware. This product may cause hallucinations or psychotic behavior. Users may also experience periods where they believe in God."I'm not an expert in (the cannabis-psychosis link) at all," said Julia Chester, an assistant professor in psychological sciences. "It seems those who have used cannabis or marijuana tend to have more problems with psychosis."I am not an expert either, if I smoked a marijuana cigarette and started to see God, my psychosis might also be described as Ecstacy.Maybe this truly benign plant is a "poor" mans gateway to the stars and the Eternity in his bosom, so beware good people in Indiana, if you dance with the devil you might accidently bump into an Angel.Mark your place on this Earth and Eternity, good neighbors and citizens, truth and justice will be our bedrock and our gift to the stars in the Infinite Night.I Vote YES, Jim Crow was buried a few years ago, but his cousins are looking for vengeance, it is time to vote for Honor, Truth and Justice, it is time. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by publicbulldog on November 02, 2006 at 15:06:49 PT: laced ,moldy old hay strikes again I am A medical marijuana patient. I grow my own fresh marijuana. I do not panick,flip out or have weird reactions. However when I run out during the summer,and go out into the black market ,I sometimes get old canadian hay that has been laced with something to give it some kick. Some of the laced pot I have had causes some of the reported problems refered to in the study in question. Right now the prohibition tactics could be to lace the marijuana and eliminate some users with tainted marijuana. Fresh marijuana has medical benefits.... Old canadian or mexican weed is hay. Canadian pot,or bc bud is not 600 times more powerfull than a locomotive. Bc bud is hay. This old pot begens to take on different chemical reactions after it gets old. Mold and mildew cause many of these problems. Seattle has some of the best pot in the world. I will take the pepsi challenge against any canadian,or mexican pot around. Look at what marijuana is available to the researchers. U of missisippi hay. Time for real research with real fresh marijuana. [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 14:42:41 PT Dankhank Thanks. I turned it on. I hope I didn't miss it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 14:39:40 PT Whig I don't know about that but I don't read about it anywhere. A person can be intelligent but not creative. Being smart doesn't mean that a person is necessarily interested in the Arts if that is what you meant. [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by Dankhank on November 02, 2006 at 14:38:11 PT Willie and Horses on CNN Headline newssoon ... [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 14:25:38 PT FoM What is amazing to me is how the mainstream (and I don't mean the media, but the average people themselves) drives people to be productive for someone other than themselves and discourages creativity (which might get you in trouble). As if intelligence can be divorced from creation? [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 14:21:26 PT OverwhelmSam I remember hearing one of the prohibitionists say that some people who are involved with marijuana issues are creative and intelligent. I agree with her. [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by dongenero on November 02, 2006 at 14:21:25 PT john stewart Stewart and Colbert are great! John Stewart is a known......ummm, cannabist. I don't know about Stephen Colbert.Bill Maher is a cannabist too. He is pretty open about it and it is often alluded to on his program.One can't help but notice how savvy, intelligent and quick-witted these guys are. They routinely rip the hypocritical politicians up one side and down the other.Maybe the politicians should try a little cannabis...it might sharpen them up a bit. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 14:17:42 PT Dankhank I really do like Jon Stewart. He's my type of comedian. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 14:08:52 PT whig Thank you. I gotta convince one other person you know, but I'll let you know. [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 14:04:56 PT museman I agree. [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 13:58:14 PT Paul Peterson Grass fed beef:http://www.slate.com/id/2152674/?nav=tap3 [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 13:56:56 PT museman Everybody must get stoned, even the bread. [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 13:55:35 PT museman Yes, there is.Good bread:http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/good-bread/I used a little spelt for the second loaf. Works well. [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 13:47:52 PT FoM Witnessing unbridled life, unrestrained curiosity, and unafraid innocence is the stuff of eternity. [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by Dankhank on November 02, 2006 at 13:46:35 PT comedy central fans ... check this out ...I think you must be high to READ the story ...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/11/01/is-fake-news-necessary-m_e_32988.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 13:44:33 PT museman I agree that no video can show what the actual experience is. As soon as the foal was safely on the ground I called the one mother and she gathered up the children and they were at the barn before the foal even made an attempt to get up. Watching a little 6 year old kneel by the head of the newborn filly and kiss her nose was priceless. [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 13:34:23 PT FoM And no matter what you use to describe it, it's fundamental essence can only be 'grokked' wholisticly in the original 'live' experience, though various vicarious renderings such as video, or even descriptive writing, are better than no experience at all.This is a perfect example of our common reality. One does not need a college doctorate in animal husbandry to understand what no words can adequately describe. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 13:27:41 PT whig Somewhere I have missed something. Is there some 'other' ingredient that I need to make the bread you are referring to? [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 13:25:10 PT museman I am impressed with what you have done in your life. I have baled hay, stacked hay and fed horses the hay from our land. There is nothing like working with what God has given us. I have sat all night in a horses stall because she was sick and almost died. I have sat all night long waiting for the birth of foals. God is good. The last foal that was born at our place I was able to tape it. My students were mesmerized by the video. So was my Vet. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 13:01:09 PT whig Is it the labor, the excersize of going to the market to obtain the yeast, eggs and flour, or the comparison you want me to make? Have I baked bread? Yes. So I know - I think - what your 'living' metaphor is.Come to think of it, I not only have made bread, but I've sown the wheat, irrigated the wheat, harvested the wheat shucked the wheat, ground the wheat - by hand - and then made the bread. We all ate it. Many times.I even shared some 'unleavened' bread made by those harvests, with a good hebrew friend of mine one Passover.On a pastoral painting that hung in our communal house were these profound words;"Even in the Land of Milk and Honey, Someone has to milk the cows, and tend the bees." [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by OverwhelmSam on November 02, 2006 at 13:00:16 PT Whig I know they think that. Their precious way of life is going down the toilet. Boo Hoo Hoo Now they'll have to respect the way other people live. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:56:04 PT OverwhelmSam I bet they think the lunatics are taking over the asylum. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by OverwhelmSam on November 02, 2006 at 12:52:33 PT Crazy Like A Fox Interesting that we mentally disabled marijuana consumers are a force so powerful that we can beat the United States Federal Government at their own games. Not bad for a collective of people who have alleged diminished perceptions and short term memory difficulties. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:50:48 PT museman Make a leap of faith then and bake some bread for me, please. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:49:58 PT VitaminT Good point. Cannabis is a "vitamin," an essential nutrient without which you will eventually die. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 12:48:44 PT whig But we do share much agreement, so don't think otherwise as I express my perspective. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by VitaminT on November 02, 2006 at 12:46:25 PT It's true Look at all the crazy people railing against the herb!It seems have the most profound effect on people who've never used it.I call it: Vitamin T deficiency! [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 12:44:45 PT whig "You may not like scientific terminology, but it is a metaphor like any other. You may not understand, which is more to the point, we all speak different languages sometimes."It's not about likes or dislikes. It's about common functionality. The effort that we need to make both as a species and a collective consciousness, is leap of faith. That faith is rooted in an active function of our consciousness that has only been glanced at, labeled ambiguously, and generally as 'the intuitive' and then tossed into the corner of inconsequential thinking.That finite terminology (of science) may, and I stress 'may' be of some assistance to some beyond the left-brained inclined, however a more universally common-ground understanding is function, and motion. That is action shared by anyone, and not just the overeducated.If 'scientific terminology' is metaphor, then a box should make a good ball. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 12:44:21 PT whig Thank you. Women too. I guess men always meant mankind to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:42:40 PT FoM And women too. Had to be said. :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 12:41:01 PT Museman You said: No persons time is worth any more, or less, than any one else.I agree with that. God created all men equal. No one is better then another. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:40:09 PT museman If nothing else, this bread is very tasty and nutritious. I used a little spelt this time. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 12:35:50 PT whig I knew that. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:33:36 PT museman You may not like scientific terminology, but it is a metaphor like any other. You may not understand, which is more to the point, we all speak different languages sometimes.http://tinyurl.com/y35korWe are all really describing the same elephant, I think. Some of us are standing in front and describe the long trunk. Some sit on top and describe the height and view. Some people stand behind and complain about the smell.It's all the same but for where you stand, and we should be trying to communicate more and better, not less.Put terminology away, and try an experiment. Put out a piece of freshly baked bread, and beside it put out a piece of mass produced commercial white bread. Sprinkle them with a little water, put them in a warm place to sit. One of those pieces of bread will spring life. One won't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 12:32:19 PT whig#22 In some native beliefs they are people. My clan on the medicine wheel, and my 'named' Spirit Guide is the Cougar, or the Great Cat. [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by ekim on November 02, 2006 at 12:22:54 PT OK-- it just means that we will have to change it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6108414.stmThere will be virtually nothing left to fish from the seas by the middle of the century if current trends continue, according to a major scientific study. See The Great Warming acclaimed climate change documentary opening in selected Regal Theaters nationwide Friday Nov.3, theater list at: http://www.thegreatwarming.com/comingsoonustheatres.htmlFeaturing both scientists and religious leaders, this movie is reaching the unconvinced. We believe that it could be a major force in changing the political dynamics of the global warming debate.Full Catalog from the link at bottom right of www.krystal-planet.com/DCWilliams [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 12:22:44 PT Man's best friends Dogs, cats, horses, elephants, dolphins, pigs, all of these are intelligent creatures. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 12:21:08 PT FoM It's all a question of balance. Having a good Orthopedic surgeon is not necessarily a bad thing, but putting their talent, skill, and knowledge on some kind of pedestal, above say the skills of an herbalist, or a musician, is the problem.Defining reality by the limited scope of a few select groupings of 'super' or elite society is the problem.No person on this planet is qualified to judge, lead, or establish their own definitions of reality above any others.We have a common reality which we all share, and when that is our foundation we have unbound agreement. But when we are forced to comply to twisted variations, created just so the select few can reign supreme, cancerous events insinuate themselves into that reality, and we are left with times like our current decline and corruption.Here is a truth which I hope to see embraced globaly before I die:No persons time is worth any more, or less, than any one else.The idea of 'determined worth' being equal to property, wealth, academic certification, or any of the many other distortions of inherent value being shoved down our collective throats, is a sinful, wrongful lie of the most great import and dimension. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 12:06:00 PT museman I don't know anything about Scientology except what was said about them when I went to Church. Tom Cruise sure doesn't impress me. I have very smart relatives and I don't associate with them. We had a friend who is an Orthopedic Surgeon. They moved to Florida so we don't see them anymore but he was so smart but he lacked common sense. It was amazing for me to see. Everyday living thought processes didn't seem important to him. He was very much a loner. He even drove his wife half crazy. He is a nice person but something is really lacking in his personality. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 11:55:42 PT scientology L.Ron is turning over in his grave right now.Why should we accept what God has given us? Let's make it better. Only substances acceptably derived by politically correct 'science' should be used as medicine. And don't forget we are all stupid unless 'educated' in the acceptable norms. No person could possibly know what is going on within their own body, only accredited 'specially educated' people like 'scientists and 'doctors' can do that.I got no academic certificate (of any note) on my wall. Don't pay any attention to me or anyone else not a member of the exclusive club.Does it seem to you like I'm always talking about the same situation, albeit in various contexts? That's because it IS the same situation. Over, and over again.B.S. here, B.S. there. All in all there is not a single institution in this country, perhaps the world which has as much value as a pile of manure. At least with manure you can grow something that will feed a hungry child. Or a hungry head. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by paul armentano on November 02, 2006 at 11:04:00 PT Cannabis, Mental Health and Context For an in depth assessment of cannabis use and it's potential impact on mental health, please read:Cannabis, Mental Health and Context: The Case For Regulationby Paul ArmentanoSenior Policy AnalystNORML | NORML FoundationUpdated November 1, 2006http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6798 http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6798 [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 11:02:52 PT I Can't Believe This: Scientology? Oh My Scientology "Say No to Drugs, Say Yes to Life" Campaign Adds K'no'wledge to War on Street Drugs and Violence Anti-Drug Campaign Focuses on Education, Unites Scientologists and Non-Scientologists in Anti-Drug EffortBOSTON (PRWeb) November 2, 2006 -- The Church of Scientology has reached out to the community with a community drug education and prevention program aimed at educating youth about the dangers of drugs and challenging youth to remain drug-free. At the core of the program are booklets that detail the harmful effects of drugs including cocaine, marijuana, crystal meth, heroin, crack cocaine, ecstacy, LSD, painkillers, and Ritalin, or "kiddie cocaine" as it is commonly called.Each booklet contains information including common street names of each drug, the drug's short- and long-term effects, quotes from actual users about their experiences with the drug, statistics detailing the scope of the drug's abuse, as well as information about what the drug is and where it is found. The booklets also dispel common myths, including those surrounding marijuana. URL: http://prweb.com/releases/2006/11/prweb468494.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 10:54:48 PT Dankhank I love it. I agree with what Willie said. Horses aren't for food. They were our transportation until the car was made. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by Dankhank on November 02, 2006 at 10:51:30 PT or ... Horse fans .... [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by Dankhank on November 02, 2006 at 10:50:46 PT Horses are smarter ... for all willie fans ...http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/01/nelson.commentary/index.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by Truth on November 02, 2006 at 10:41:45 PT whig # 6bingo [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by Truth on November 02, 2006 at 10:39:55 PT prohibition Prohibition breeds corruption.http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SHERIFF_INDICTED?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 10:31:32 PT whig Two things;#1. The association of relative mystical terminology with 'scientific' terminology because of phonetic, or visual resemblance is an error which, in my mind only muddies up the water. Though I do not believe in coincidence, I also do not believe in 'science.'#2. The understanding of systems which cannot be understood by painstaking creation of secular language - like scientific jargon - most profusely cluttering information concerning the 'eukariot' is not found in the exclusive clubs of the academicly endowed, but through an intuitive understanding that is available to anyone, regardless of their alma mater.All this blather from left-brained lunatics is exactly the same kind of uncommon seperatist language like 'legaleze' which requires special 'education' to fathom. Yet with all this wording, no understanding comes forth, and though many specialized terms can render an idea seemingly valid, the cloak is just as unreal and invisible as the emporers.There are some 'scientific' discoveries that align themselves with the common faculties of anymans understanding, and these are acceptable only for that reason. If understanding cannot be had, then the description and/or understanding is flawed at it's source. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 10:24:23 PT museman When I was a teenager I was always tired. I don't get tired like that anymore. They found a heart murmur when I was about 10. They put me on diet pills because I was a little chubby and for some reason my heart got rid of that murmur. I never saw any marijuana until I was in my mid twenties so I don't know how it would have worked or helped me. I wasn't tired when on those powerful amphetamines we had back then. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 10:10:29 PT museman Cannabis restores neural health, but you should make some bread to help yourself out. I'm going to try to explain this in bits and pieces, the whole story is hard to get across without being very technical.Eukariots are the basic building block of your cells, including your neurons. Your eukariots need to be revised and updated to take up cannabis efficiently. They have to learn how to use it, as everyone does. Eukariots...Euchariots. Okay?Give it away, pass it on. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 09:44:59 PT rewiring Actually, from personal experience I have to agree. When I was young I was diagnosed with severe thyroid deficiency. The result was an incredibly slow metabolism, which left untreated would have resulted in many problems, one of which was mental retardation. In fact when I was diagnosed at the age of 17, the doctor was surprised that my grades in school were so high.One of the problems of thyroid deficiency, and a slow metabolism, is the effect it has on the neural network. The ganglia of the neuron and axion, are like points in an analog vehicle, the firing gap (distance between the points of connection) determines the electomotive force in which the electricity, or in the case of the brain, electrochemical information, gets across the gap. In the brain, if that gap is too wide, the effect is like trying to get your brain to wade through sticky mud to get to the information you wish to access.Before being diagnosed and recieving medicine for the condition, the only indication that I was not 'retarded' was my test scores. I had the information, and in a 'test-taking' environment, I could access the information easily. But in ordinary interaction, my mind would just shut down. Most of my 'peers' believed that I was stupid.For about a year and a half I had prescribed medications which changed everything. Then I was 18. My lottery number was 3. I joined the Navy to avoid Vietnam.The Navy stopped giving me my thyroid meds. I gained weight, and started to get 'stupid' again.While I was in the cuckoos nest (I swear Kesey must've been there too) I started smoking marijuana. The improvement was immediately noticeable.Without realizing it I had begun the process of 're-wiring' my neural network.A couple of years later I got to read Tim Leary's 'Neurologic' which explained the whole idea of 'rewiring the neural net' through purposeful use of LSD.I embraced the concept, and became a psychedelic tripper with the idea in mind of 'reprogramming my brain.'All the while smoking herb.I stopped LSD many years ago because the supply was contaminated by drug dealers who only wanted money. But the herb kept my thyroid levels up until just the past few years.My brain was rewired, and those connections became permanent. As I got older, and age began to wear down my physical, I began to exhibit depression, and dark fits of despair, which were of course mis-diagnosed by every doctor I went to until a few years ago.That doctor actually listened to me, and my suspicions about the thyroid (I hadn't taken prescribed medicine for it for about 25 years) were proven true.The good news, is that by my usage of LSD and the herb, my thyroid defficiency is no longer extreme, and I only need a little 'booster' every day.My brain is quite functional, and if it weren't for marijuana, I wouldn't have the functional brain cells to rub together for even one rhyming line. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by BGreen on November 02, 2006 at 09:35:37 PT You mean PRESCRIPTION DRUGS make you crazy? "Pot is often laced or mixed with other drugs that can trigger a psychotic response."Could it be possible that over-prescribing stimulants and serotonin reuptake drugs like prozac to children are causing a substantial amount of craziness?Hell, yes!Could it be possible that our toxic food supply and other environmental toxins that have triggered a shocking increase in signs of early puberty in children five and six years old, COMBINED with all of these psychotropic prescription drugs could be causing a substantial amount of craziness?Double Hell, yes!The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by whig on November 02, 2006 at 09:35:24 PT Cannabis reveals truth We are all God. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by thestales on November 02, 2006 at 09:30:07 PT good for your brain? http://www.biotech-weblog.com/50226711/marijuana_component_slows_down_alzheimers_disease.phphttp://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8155.htmlJust like prozac? I should hope not. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 09:30:00 PT Just Because Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.That is how many people feel. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by dongenero on November 02, 2006 at 09:12:29 PT pot makes you crazy What a ridiculous headline. It would just be laughable except that they keep perpetuating these myths.It should read "Pot Makes Prohibitionists Crazy". Now, there is some truth.The other thing, they say pot "rewires" the brain. It seems there was a recent study that pot actually prevents errant rewiring of the nerves. Was it related to the protective nature of cannabis relative to Alzheimers? Maybe someone here has that info on hand and could refute the rewiring theory. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by FoM on November 02, 2006 at 08:52:56 PT Museman You are good. Thanks. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by museman on November 02, 2006 at 08:51:05 PT America makes you crazier It couldn't possibly be the wars where young men (and now young women too) go off to help fill the coffers of their rich masters, but where they suffer all manner of horrors of mens making, and if they survive physically, they never get a good night sleep again without the help of powerful phramaceutical opiate deriviates? Nope, it's the pot.Couldn't be the disparity between the flaunting rich and the working poor, day in and day out, in public, and on Tv, the suffering children whose parents can only afford cheap imitation food? No, It's the pot!There's no chance that it's the library of lies taught to the less fortunate in government funded schools, and other institutions of control and reprogramming -like the churches? No, don't you understand? It's the pot."Psychosis is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state in which thought and perception are severely impaired. Persons experiencing a psychotic episode may experience hallucinations, hold delusional beliefs (e.g., grandiose or paranoid delusions), demonstrate personality changes and exhibit disorganized thinking (see thought disorder). This is often accompanied by lack of insight into the unusual or bizarre nature of such behavior, difficulties with social interaction and impairments in carrying out the activities of daily living. A psychotic episode is often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PsychosisPsychiatry is a set of standards invented by a psychotic, delusional, 19th century opium user whose obsession with having sex with his parents became the measuring rod for 'sanity.'Even with that foundation as it's base, the state of mind 'defined' by psychiatry as 'psychotic' has distinct socio/political overtones. The art of head shrinking serves to justify the otherwise unnatural assumptions of a disconnected society, and other than being 'good listeners' the profession is about as real as say a politician.But never mind that. Lets assume (like the ones on top of the pyramid often do) that this definition actually has some real application in understanding human actions.If that is the case, I submit that the entire political system is composed of psychotic individuals, whose delusions of their own 'specialness' has brought the world to the visible brink of Armageddon. This state of affairs is fueled by the tweaked heads of the rich overlords who rule by virtue of their bank accounts - they themselves victims of false perspectives and erroneous conclusions.And finally, on the bottom of millenniums of insanity, is the people. Those who refuse to be indoctrinated are labeled, categorized, and if possible eliminated. "re-education" "rehabilitation" "reindoctrination" "retrained"Church, school, prison, and psych-hospitals - all freudian nightmares. But if the king, and his entire entourage are insane, what choice does a sane man have except to bow with his fellows, publicly avow allegiance to his ruler,and remark how lovely the invisible clothing looks today.After they round up the lawyers, go after the shrinks please. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment