DMV Employee Disciplined for Ordering Driving Test

DMV Employee Disciplined for Ordering Driving Test
Posted by CN Staff on January 14, 2005 at 20:15:29 PT
By Brian Melley, Associated Press
Source: Associated Press
Sacramento -- A Department of Motor Vehicles employee was disciplined for ordering an extra driving evaluation for a medical marijuana user with a case before the U.S. Supreme Court, the agency said Friday.After Diane Monson's lawyer complained she was being unfairly targeted for review without any driving violations, the DMV concluded that she did not need to appear for the re-examination hearing, spokesman Bill Branch said.
The DMV did not name the driving safety officer who ordered the hearing or divulge the level of discipline, but said it had "taken appropriate action under civil service guidelines" and ordered the officer to take additional training, Branch said.Monson, 47, an Oroville accountant who uses the drug to relieve back pain, received notice from the DMV last month ordering her to appear at a re-examination hearing or face losing her driver's license. The notice did not say why she was selected, but it arrived shortly after she passed an eye exam to renew her license.Because of confidentiality laws, the agency did not say why Monson was selected for a re-examination hearing, which are held routinely in cases involving drivers involved in serious crashes or who have been cited for driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol at least three times over three years.The re-examination would have required Monson to fill out forms giving her medical history and could have included a driving test.Before delivering a cease-and-desist letter to the DMV last month, Monson's lawyer, David Michael, said she was singled out because she uses pot for her pain.Michael was out of the country Friday, a spokesman said. Monson did not immediately return phone messages from The Associated Press seeking comment.Branch said the hearing officer should have gathered more information before issuing a summons to Monson, who has been at the center of a high-profile medical marijuana case.Monson and another California woman sued U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft because they feared their marijuana supply would disappear after federal agents seized six pot plants in 2002 on her rural property on Rattlesnake Peak.They prevailed in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled that federal prosecution of medical marijuana users is unconstitutional if the pot is not sold, transported across state lines or used for nonmedicinal purposes.That case, now before the Supreme Court, will determine if federal law enforcement agents can seize pot grown by users in states where it can be legally prescribed as medicine.California law allows people to grow, smoke or obtain marijuana for medical needs with a doctor's recommendation. Other states with such laws are Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Complete Title: DMV Employee Disciplined for Ordering Driving Test for Medical Marijuana UserSource: Associated Press (Wire)Author: Brian Melley, Associated PressPublished: January 14, 2005 Copyright: 2005 The Associated Press Related Articles & Web Site:Angel Raich v. Ashcroft News Pot Advocate Sees Act of Retaliation User Tries To Stop DMV from Taking License
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Comment #58 posted by afterburner on January 17, 2005 at 06:06:04 PT
Jose Melendez Publishes another LTE
CN BC: PUB LTE: The Drug Laws Are Just Not Working Pubdate: Tue, 11 Jan 2005
Source: Parksville Qualicum Beach News (CN BC)
Author: Jose Melendez to go, Jose. Maybe you could include a link to the LTE you are responding to which: the one by Mary Anne Erickson who maligns Russel Barth, MMAR patient in Canada and Author of the book "Mommy's Funny Medicine.""We must all hang together or we will all hang separately."
--Benjamin Franklin, US Diplomat, author, philosopher and signer of the Declaration of Independence
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Comment #57 posted by afterburner on January 15, 2005 at 22:36:38 PT
Great List, siege
It contains many of my favorite foods and frequently consumed foods. Coral calcium is another terrific alkaline food, especially for those who are lactose-intolerant. Coral calcium was brought back from Okinawa to Europe in powder form in the holds of great sailing ships during the 1600's through the middle 1900's. Those same tall ships had hempen sails and riggings.
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Comment #56 posted by siege on January 15, 2005 at 21:54:33 PT
The Reverend Bud Green
If what lombar says is true look up ALKALINE Food there is a lot of it. 
Most Alkaline
# 1Stevia Sweetener, #2 Lemons, Watermelon, Limes, Grapefruit, Mangoes, Papayas, #3 Asparagus, Onions, Vegetable Juices, Parsley, Raw Spinach, Broccoli, Garlic #4
Olive Oil #5 Herb Teas, Lemon Water
#6 Maple Syrup, Rice Syrup#7 Dates, Figs, Melons, Grapes, Papaya, Kiwi, Berries, Apples, Pears, Raisins #8 Okra, Squash, Green Beans, Beets, Celery, Lettuce, Zucchini, Sweet Potato, Carob# 9 Almonds
 Flax Seed Oil #10 Breast Milk # 11 Green Tea. and lots more.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 20:56:56 PT
I'm so glad to hear that she is doing fine and will be home in the near future.
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Comment #54 posted by siege on January 15, 2005 at 20:29:07 PT
I know that the more ALKALINE the body has in it there is ((NO Cancer)), Cancer cannot live in an alkaline body. This is what the doc. says where the granddaughter Is. he says that the body neads it to stay health.
And she is doing fine they say she will be home in about 60 days.
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Comment #53 posted by lombar on January 15, 2005 at 19:41:35 PT
Bgreen and p test
I can't seem to find the reference but I read somewhere that acidic fluids work better for flushing out THC. So tell your friend to drink lots of orange juice as well as water. (or other citric acid containing liquids) I am not positive. His previous usage patterns would tell the tale. If he was a heavy smoker it could take 90+ days to be in the clear.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 15:20:50 PT
Yes Diane Monson is an unsung hero. 
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Comment #51 posted by global_warming on January 15, 2005 at 15:06:02 PT
Checking In re:Diane Monson'
The fact that this women has the courage to face these lockstepping bastards of this world, I bow and seek further humility, Staying for Peace, staying for another dawn, gw
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 14:01:08 PT
Thank you. It really is hard for me to understand. I try.
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 13:58:51 PT
Had Enough
I really have been kidding. I am not liberal or conservative. I really am like you. I feel certain ways on different issues. That's why I don't like politics. 
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 13:50:09 PT
Just a Note
About my comment # 22. Ted Nuggent won't be at the Tsunami Benefit concert tonight. He is doing a concert for the Crawford Texas High School Band so they can go to the Innauguration to play. Bill O'Reilly will be at the concert for the tsunami victims. I wish we didn't have a 5 second delay though. It should be a good concert and will be available live online as a webcast.
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Comment #47 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 13:47:15 PT
I try not to be Right or Left, however depending on the issue involved, I find myself leaning on way or another, that is when it is time to speak up or forever hold my peace.Rather than be right or wrong, I would rather just be. But when it is time you must make your stand.
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Comment #46 posted by ron on January 15, 2005 at 13:33:47 PT
This has been an interesting thread.
From the starting point of government harassment to ekim's post of Redford's eloquence in defence of Mother Nature. P-testing and browser talk too.Afterburner gave you some general news of Canada, FoM. In addition we should mention hockey withdrawal. It's been six months since we had our last NHL fix.On the cannabis front, the minority Liberal government is trying to push a phoney "decriminalization" bill through parliament. We could be the laboratory for DEAland. Walters recent endorsement of the similar Chicago plan indicates a possible route of withdrawal from the mess this perpetual War on Some People who use Some Drugs has become.Most interesting of all, though, are the court challenges to the very existence of laws felonizing involvement with cannabis. The Parker decision struck down "possession" in 2001. The Krieger decision struck down "cultivation" in 2002. The media and courts conspired to keep this news from the beginning. By the spring of 2003, a string of court rulings finally forced the media to admit the Parker decision might mean non existent laws were being enforced. This lead to our "summer of legalization".It ended under very suspicious circumstances with a lawyer interpreting the Hitzig decision as a reinstatement of laws against possession.During this period the Krieger decision was little known and its implications even less understood. But it's started to dawn on a lot of people that there's a huge cover up going on here.This week, two cases in Ontario were heard. Defendants presented motions to quash the charges aginst them based on the Parker and Krieger decisions. The crown counsel of Alberta, David Frankel, has been cited for contempt for his role in the cover up. We should know more next week.The real question is, as Richard Cowan says so often, why are we still be served by such bad journalism?  Every two bit PR report from the police about how many lower leaves they captured on their latest brave foray into the toxic killer mold grow op jungle is faithfully reported. "Graduation" from a DARE programming session is covered in cloying detail.There is obvious discomfort and embarrassment on the faces of prosecutors whenever and wherever they face citizens seeking to quash charges on the basis of Parker and Krieger. But trying to find a good journalist in the House of Presstitution is as hard for Canadians as it is for you in Amerikant.I'm with The GWC on flushing the whole mess. If the injustice done to Canadians these past few years does seep out, the stench will be smelled worldwide for a while.Then we'll all be able to take some sweet breaths in peace. 
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 13:19:47 PT
Had Enough
That's the truth. One thing I am is proudly fair and unbalanced and leaning slightly to the left. 
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Comment #44 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 13:13:19 PT
Fair - Balanced
Fair & Balanced?In the case of the media it's fair and balanced in the eye of the spin-miesters.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 12:57:31 PT
Had Enough 
You know where I get my fair and balanced news? The Daily Show! LOL!
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 12:54:03 PT
Had Enough 
OK I'll try to watch it more then a few minutes. LOL!
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Comment #41 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 12:49:01 PT
Inferior feelings
I don't let them get to me; neither should you or anybody else. Inferior feelings, naah, let it go. It is interesting to watch what people say, then watch what they do. As with Fox News for example, they applaud a drug free society, but yet look at all the drug commercials they have. They shun sex, yet they let erectile dysfunction drug companies buy airtime. And the Beat Goes On. Now look and see who and what is inferior. I bet that makes you feel better.There is a movie going on 24/7 around the world, it's the Greatest Show on Earth. Might as well enjoy as much of it as you can stand.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 12:22:44 PT
Had Enough 
I don't watch Fox so I would have missed it. Fox is so right wing and self righteous it's hard to handle. It's almost like people who don't think like they do should just dig a hole and crawl in it and die. That's harsh but they make me feel so inferior.
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Comment #39 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 12:17:00 PT
That is what Judge Napolitano predicts. He said this on Fox News right after the media got hold of it. I believe he even might have said only 5 judges would be deciding this issue. I'm not positively sure about this. The idiot box was on in the background while I was busy, so I did not catch the whole thing. That is where the 2-2 tie came from on my previous posts.
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 12:15:34 PT
I get the ccc list and I still get very confused because I don't see a common way of fixing it all. Since I'm not a Canadian I just read and try to figure it out. I know that the upcoming ruling here will matter. I think it's because your judicial system is different then ours and that's why I can't figure it out.
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Comment #37 posted by afterburner on January 15, 2005 at 11:59:38 PT
RE Michael Patriquen 
In case anyone has forgotten, Michael Patriquen was or is held in Canadian custody (caged). Even though medical cannabis is putatively legal in Canada and Michael Patriquen has a federal MMAR exemption to use medical cannabis, prison officials at Corrections Canada have refused to allow him to use his medicine saying that is "illegal" for them to provide or allow him to use medical cannabis, even cookies. Marc Emery has provided funds and moral support for Michael Patriquen, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that Canada, like the USA (and it's DEA ambassadors), is targeting activists with "cruel and unusual punishments."There are too many activists, medical cannabis patients, spritual seekers and social/recreational consumers (especially in the next generation), and way too much public support for the movement for these police state tactics to *ever* be successful. The government, LEO's and courts of Canada are wasting the taxpayers money again in a massive way. And we are p*ssed-off!Top Story: The Slow Motion Murder of Michael Patriquen. Canada Really Does
Have A Death Penalty, But Only for Medical Cannabis Patients. ... Posted April 7, 2003
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 11:48:27 PT
Had Enough
I sure hope you are right. My poor nerves are shot waiting for the ruling. I know we all know how important this case is.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 11:42:25 PT
I went over to Marihemp and tried to post as a test and stopped when the preview screen showed up so it works on Marihemp. I'm posting behind security now. I can't post the normal way though.
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 11:39:57 PT
This fits with your post.***Save the planet for another day  Attention shoppers.  Buy with a conscience and save.Save the planet for another day  Save Alaska!  Let the caribou stay.Don't care what the governments say  They're all bought  and paid for anyway.Save the planet for another day  Hey Big Oil!  What do you say?
Greendale Lyrics
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Comment #33 posted by Dankhank on January 15, 2005 at 11:36:39 PT
FoM, having same problem in ME doesn't absolve XP, sorry.ME was crap, too ...:-)
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Comment #32 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 11:23:54 PT
ment to read even tie. not 2-2
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Comment #31 posted by ekim on January 15, 2005 at 11:21:46 PT
ok Robert ---- maybe you could throw us a bone too
No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that.Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn America's
greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field.Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating
measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill.Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website (
right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative to
reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge.And please forward my message to your friends, family, and colleagues. We must
mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible.Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic Refuge
for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the pump.President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would
take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one
or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the
crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or
break our addiction to Persian Gulf oil.But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or energy
security, then what is it about?It's the symbolism.The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything endangered
about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of ecological
serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an irreplaceable
birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves.It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild state is
a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we, as a
people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of bulldozers,
chain saws and oil rigs.And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it.By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas and
coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western canyonlands,
our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments.This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the entire
Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate hands so
it can be liquidated for a quick buck.House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this
battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy
exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's
about precedent," Rep. DeLay said.I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no
piece of our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction.Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website ( and
tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy the
Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many people
as you can.And thank you for speaking out at this critical time.Sincerely,Robert Redford
NRDC Action Fund
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Comment #30 posted by Had Enough on January 15, 2005 at 11:16:32 PT
Supreme Court decision
Supreme Court decision will be 2-2 with the Judge on Chemotherapy breaking the tie in favor of the states rights and for that reason alone. This judge has always touted the states rights. That is what Judge Napolitano from Fox News predicts.
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Comment #29 posted by Taylor121 on January 15, 2005 at 11:10:40 PT
Marijuana bill will remove criminal penalties-NH
Rep. Tim Robertson (D-Keene) has taken a strong stand on behalf of responsible adults who use marijuana by introducing groundbreaking legislation: H.B. 197. His bill, which will soon receive a hearing in the House Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee, eliminates all criminal penalties associated with marijuana. Robertson has done his part -- he stood up for compassion and common sense. Now it's up to us to show his colleagues that sensible marijuana policy has strong support in New Hampshire. If you want to see criminal penalties associated with marijuana removed completely, MPP needs you to do two things. First, send a letter to your legislators telling them that you support Rep. Robertson's bill, and urging them to do the same. The whole process -- from beginning to end -- takes mere seconds. It's the least we can do. Second, forward this e-mail to everyone you know in New Hampshire so that every member of the General Court is bombarded with letters in support of the removal of criminal penalties associated with marijuana. Whether they live next door or across the state, we need them to take action in support of this landmark bill. (Click here to read the text of H.B. 197 as it now stands.) Further, if you are -- or know of -- a doctor, attorney, law enforcement officer, or another type of prominent public figure in New Hampshire willing to testify on behalf of this bill at its upcoming committee hearing, please e-mail rgrim today. We need to show lawmakers that the type of courage shown by Robertson, and his cosponsor Charles Weed (D-Keene), is rewarded and admired by voters. The only way to do that is to make our voices heard. Please visit our action center and forward this e-mail to as many people as you can think of. Thank you for supporting the Marijuana Policy Project. We will update you when a date is set for a hearing on H.B. 197.
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Comment #28 posted by Taylor121 on January 15, 2005 at 10:55:04 PT
In the case of a Supreme Court tie, the 9th justice who is sick on chemo will make the decision. Given his circumstances, I sincerely hope he can truly feel this issue out.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 10:42:55 PT
It could be Windows XP but I had the problem from time to time with the ME.
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Comment #26 posted by BGreen on January 15, 2005 at 10:41:29 PT
I wonder if this problem has to do with Windows
Windows XP service pack 2 has been causing all kinds of problems. They keep issuing patches trying to solve the problems but the "fixes" seem to break other things.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 10:40:39 PT
Thank you. There has been a problem that pops up now and then and won't let me post. It's strange and one of those off and on problems. I know others have had the same problem and I just want everyone to know it's not because I am blocking anyone. 
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Comment #24 posted by BGreen on January 15, 2005 at 10:36:46 PT
Let's try it with Mozilla
Test.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #23 posted by BGreen on January 15, 2005 at 10:35:36 PT
I'm not having any trouble posting
I'm using Opera.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 10:31:26 PT
Off Topic: Tsunami Benefit Concert Tonight
This could get interesting. Bill O'Reilly will be there too. I wish they had some of the musicians to perform that I like but I still plan on watching it. I'm not sure but maybe Ted Nuggent (sp) will perform. He lives in Crawford, Texas now and we know how he is.PS: I hope people post just so I know you aren't having trouble. I can only post behind security if that makes sense.
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Comment #21 posted by BGreen on January 15, 2005 at 10:26:54 PT
Thanks FoM and Dankhank
I hadn't even thought of (or maybe I tried to forget about) those do-it-yourself never-trust-your-children tests.I'd guess a more sophisticated test a couple of weeks after a negative home test would probably be OK.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #20 posted by Dankhank on January 15, 2005 at 09:52:55 PT:
How Long?
Some variables apply to your question, Rev.How much of the kind and at what quality?Thin is good, less fat for the metabolites to lodge in.Exercise is good.There are commercial test kits for parents you can try.Water consumption is good as urine should be fairly clear after repeated frequent urination.Too-clear urine, caused by lots of water ingestion, is lately more often being taken as a sign of trying to fool the testors. I read one time that some of the "energy packs" of pills sold in the convenience stores, Circle K here ... think 7/11, put back quickly some familiar metabolites normally found in urine.I haven't called NORML UA hotline in years, but once I did and was told simply to "drink like a fish and piss like a racehorse."If the energy packs do work I would favor that and water, but I read that some masking stuff works, and someone I know used a masking product that worked, but he was a very light smoker, I'm sure.good luck 
Pee for this?
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 09:38:34 PT
Just a Note
I am having trouble posting. It says I'm not allowed to post. This is working but if anyone has any problems please report it. 
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 09:33:07 PT
That's a good question. I don't know the answer. Maybe this is globalization working.afterburner I tried but I couldn't get the links to work.
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Comment #17 posted by siege on January 15, 2005 at 09:27:52 PT
What is England going to say about that or are we the U.S.A. just going to go in and Blow them away like the other TWO!!
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 09:22:42 PT
My guess would be 30 days or more.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 09:20:24 PT
How long until Canada becomes the 51st state? I'm not kidding either. We need your oil.
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Comment #14 posted by BGreen on January 15, 2005 at 09:20:12 PT
Serious Question About Piss Testing
A good friend has to give up cannabis until he can take a piss test for an insurance policy. His freedom and professional license is at stake so a negative result is imperative.Does anyone have any experience with taking piss tests? My friend is thin and is trying to detoxify his body by exercise, eating fresh fruits and vegetables and drinking lots of water.How long should he abstain before taking the piss test? Is there anything else I can advise him to do?Thanks for any help you can give me.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #13 posted by afterburner on January 15, 2005 at 09:10:16 PT
What *in the World* has happened in Canada?
Thanks for asking, FoM. Here are some off-topic articles that speak to your confusion and mine:U.S. conservatives gunning for the presidential payoff
Jan. 15, 2005. 08:14 AM{PHOENIX, Ariz.—When U.S. President George W. Bush takes his oath of office next week in the midst of a $40-million, four-day orgy of Republican euphoria, he will be carrying the dreams of a newly emboldened conservative movement. The American right is ascendant. It is empowered. And it is impatient. Tim Harper explains.}  [Full Story]*****Jan. 15, 2005. 08:29 AM 
Staying out of the loop while China takes overSLINGER"Before I tell you about my own Great Leap Forward, consider China's next one...."We'd had hints in Canada that something was stirring, but the general response was bemusement: To think that China might bid for Husky Oil or Noranda seemed absurd — what did a bunch of Communists know about the founts and fundaments of capitalism? On the other hand, the tar sands have been Tomorrow's Resource for 50 years; maybe the Chinese were the ones who could finally get something worthwhile out of the stubborn gunk. There are enough of them. They could squeeze it by hand, a drop at a time, and flood the market."*****PM protests as China bars TV journalists
Jan. 15, 2005. 08:22 AM{Prime Minister Paul Martin said yesterday the Chinese embassy has been asked for an explanation after a Toronto television station was denied visas to accompany him on an upcoming trade mission to China.{`This is a very serious issue,' Martin says}  [Full Story]*****Canada is caught in the cross-fire between two powerful economic forces: the USA and China! And don't forget the keys to unlocking the (Login details) - where tiny is better! Wal-Mart! Stop the drug testing, which is overtly discriminatory against peaceful cannabis people!ego transcendence or ego destruction, now more than ever you all need to make your choice. We live in a world of both, and people like dr. slider, many of you and myself have personally experienced both. However, the political and economic balance is tipped way too far toward ego destruction to be healthy to children and other living things, including Mother Earth!
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 08:10:00 PT
Here's a Related Article
It wasn't $300,000 but close.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on January 15, 2005 at 08:01:46 PT
It's slow news today so I'll go ahead and ask this question. What in the world has happened in Canada? I've been doing CNews long enough to look back and see Canada was a free thinking and acting nation but now I am confused and don't understand. I read this morning where a man has been fined over $300,000 for something concerning Cannabis in Canada. I thought who in the world has $300,000 to pay to anyone for anything? That would financially destroy a person down here.
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Comment #10 posted by siege on January 15, 2005 at 07:57:09 PT
This is the ez way out and there are still in good standing with everyone!!
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Comment #9 posted by siege on January 15, 2005 at 07:52:50 PT
just my thinking
The Supreme Court is going to dump this back ON the  9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals they don't want anything to do with IT. The Supreme Court some one is not going to vote or they are going to TIE! 
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Comment #8 posted by afterburner on January 15, 2005 at 07:50:41 PT
ekim, It's Already Happening in Canada
"how long before the fire marshals and zoning inspectors will invade our homes." If you have a rental unit in your house, it's open season on you by the nanny state bureaucrats. And, yes, they do come in to inspect your wiring, water, fire safety, etc. And then, there are the lovely insurance companies who demand compliance with the threat of cancellation of your policy. If you have a mortgage, you cannot renew it without insurance. A nice little circle of pirates, eh? Not only that the electrical companies (hydro in Canada) can cut-off your electricity, even in the dead of winter without warning or warrant, if they *suspect* you might have a "marijuana [sic] grow-op" in your house based in excessive electricity use. Enforcing prohibition is a b*tch!
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Comment #7 posted by ekim on January 15, 2005 at 07:21:26 PT
lets see how the gop handles this 
madd is calling for ck points for all drivers. today in the nyt a story on how 17,000 deaths associated with drinking and that is all i could read from the close up on s-span. so this is what we get a bigger nanny state. how long before the fire marshals and zoning inspectors will invade our homes.
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Comment #6 posted by charmed quark on January 15, 2005 at 06:01:20 PT
Not just cannabis
I just went through several months of pain because an official in my company thought that my marinol prescription might make me unfit and unsafe to work. One accusation was it could make me mentally unstable. Luckily, it was eventually laughed out. So I'm not at all surprise at this sort of thing.
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Comment #5 posted by afterburner on January 15, 2005 at 05:59:37 PT
Right You Are, Kap
Can you all say, fall guy. Like those Abu Ghraib soldiers being prosecuted for following illegal orders from top military and political leaders. Or media fall guy. Like Martha Stewart. We'd love to hear more about your change of heart when they let you out of your cage. God bless. G  --. B  -... "Does the Right Remember Abu Ghraib? ... If the pictures haven't gone away, the
value system that led to Abu Ghraib hasn't gone away either. ..."
Does the Right Remember Abu Ghraib? (
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Comment #4 posted by kaptinemo on January 15, 2005 at 04:42:11 PT:
You have to wonder how this got started
Who put the bug in that DMV bureaucrat's ear that this might be a 'GOOD THING' to hassle Ms. Monson? Someone gave the order. It's doubtful he dreamed this up himself.
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Comment #3 posted by The GCW on January 15, 2005 at 03:57:35 PT
Don't let it all hinge on the Supremes.
This Supremes show is only one facet that could flush this toilet.It is starting to reek and there are so many other facets wanting to flush this stinky toilet that people are about to scream because of the smell.Cannabis prohibition is going to be flushed.
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Comment #2 posted by Taylor121 on January 14, 2005 at 22:45:11 PT
You can count me in on being nervous about the Supreme Court case. We can only hope.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on January 14, 2005 at 20:17:26 PT
Good News
I love good news. I am so very nervous about the upcoming Supreme Court case. I'm sure almost everyone feels the same way too. 
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