Finding May Help Cirrhosis Patients

  Finding May Help Cirrhosis Patients

Posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 13:51:25 PT
By Randolph E. Schmid, Associated Press  
Source: Charlotte Observer 

Researchers have discovered what they believe is the cause of blood pressure problems in people with cirrhosis, potentially a first step in slowing the disease.In people with advanced cirrhosis, blood vessels become dilated, lowering blood pressure and increasing blood flow to the liver and gut. Because of liver scarring, this results in elevated pressure where the vessels meet the liver. That can cause fluid to accumulate in the abdomen and dilated blood vessels to rupture. Both conditions are life-threatening.
In tests on animals, the research team, led by Dr. George Kunos of the National Institute of Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse, found that substances normally present in the body, called endocannabinoids, act on the blood vessel walls to cause dilation.The researchers found elevated levels of the endocannabinoid anandamide associated with low blood pressure. Using a chemical that blocks the action of anandamide, they raised blood pressure and reduced the so-called portal pressure where the blood enters the liver.In addition to finding higher levels of anandamide in the cirrhosis cases, they discovered that the blood vessels of the victims had increased receptors to react to that chemical. The finding may suggest an approach for therapy to assist patients while they await a liver transplant.The findings are reported in the July issue of the journal Nature Medicine.Dr. Bruce Bacon of the St. Louis University School of Medicine, who was not involved in the study, said the finding is "a significant observation."But he cautioned: "Whether that will lead to therapeutic intervention (in people) is yet to be determined."Note: Knowing cause of blood pressure problems could lead to new treatment.Source: Charlotte Observer (NC) Author: Randolph E. Schmid, Associated Press Published: Saturday, June 30, 2001 Copyright: 2001 The Charlotte Observer Contact: opinion Website: Related Articles & Web Site:Nature Medicine Could Block Cannabis High Find Way To Block Effects of Marijuana

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Comment #45 posted by New Mexican on July 03, 2001 at 13:03:55 PT're right, you are a rich man!
I mentioned real estate, because once you own a piece of land, park your car, buy a trailer, build a solar hemp bale house and plant your field of hemp, you'll have everything you've always wanted, a lifestyle off the grid, with energy provided by the sun, rooftop rainwater runoff stored and filtered in your 500 gallon sistern, composting toilet (no sewage permits needed or pollution created). $500 bucks and you can get a quarter acre (here at least) and you're set! If you need to increase your income, sign up to give advice and share your political veiwpoints with those who need to be enlightened at I do readings, but others give advice on BBQ, fixing your car, legal advice, whatever your area of expertise is, and i'm sure you have a few, judging by your articulate and well written opinion pieces that I enjoy so much! You are struggling financially because you are supposed to be your own boss! Start your own bussiness and you'll be problem free! (you were born with the moon in Capricorn, like myself, and that means self-employment or mild poverty, you choose!) I think living low on the hog is a better way to live anyway, as that is how most of the world lives. When the sheet hits the fan, and i'm sure it will, you won't notice it that much. Now about that Dubya...The full moon eclips is the day before his birthday this year and that indicates one helluva year for him and that will affect the U.S. and all of US. Looks like war with Mars prominent and his poll ratings nosediving. Wag the dog time is here! His days are numbered, what with President Cheney (Lynn?) having died (opps...that hasn't happened yet, has it?), who knows, if Shrub does takeover Cheneys role, The Curse of Tehcumseh will have worked it's magic on both Ursurpers. He stole the selection with the blessings of the Universe, so as to highlight the fact we live in a farce! And now the curtain has been pulled backfor all to see the voting process as a sham. So much for Amerikas' reign! It's official, and you can look to South America for the new world of True Democracy, as in South Africa, or anywhere the stain of U.S. corruption has been rejected. As it will be everywhere, as the U.K. and Canada are in the process of doing now. It's really 1965 over again...civil rights, womens rights, cannabis rights, free's a replay of that year, and by the end of 2001, things will surprise and amaze! With Shrubya as the Catalyst and Cheney as the Inciter...Thanks for asking!
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Comment #44 posted by dddd on July 03, 2001 at 05:29:14 PT
New Mexican
Dubya,,,,July 6,1946?????dddd
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Comment #43 posted by dddd on July 03, 2001 at 02:42:20 PT
New Mexican,,,,,,you are a heavy cat....Your cosmicagility sounds pretty special......I'm amazed at what youcan do with a persons birthday,,,it makes me feel kindalike I should be careful about disclosing my birthday tojust anyone,,,theoreticly,,,if you were an evil mystic,you could probably use it to hex me with some bad hoodoo?Your original 'reading',was quite remarkable,,,except forthe part about investments/real estate,,,,I can barely affordto pay Attention,,,I drive a vehicle that's worth less than amonths rent,,,but I'm a billionaire in ways that have nothingto do with money.............dddd
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Comment #42 posted by New Mexican on July 03, 2001 at 01:26:39 PT
As above, so below!
dddd: As long as I have your date of birth, I can give you details and forecasts', but my intuition is highly developed, partly due to my use of cannabis as an enhancer, but not because of it. In other words, cannabis doesn't hinder or discourage, but the dream state can transport one to where all the information regarding the makeup of the uninverse is stored... the 'Akashic Records'. May JAH shine back on you!NM
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Comment #41 posted by dddd on July 03, 2001 at 00:02:50 PT
........New Mexican...
Thank You.........That has substantial mystical relevance,,,Do youformulate your readings from planetary info,and vibes from beingin tune with the spiritual fabric of the unseen,,,,or is theresome sort of guide book?,,or perhap a combination of these.I've been taking Golden Seal for many years.I think it is one ofthe most benificial herbs of all....JAH Shine on YouThanx Againdddd
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Comment #40 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 23:48:14 PT
...everyone knows the antichrist was born in Texas,,.......what if your sister in law turned out to be the anti-christ?..being a film buff,,look at the link below CS,and scroll down toJune 29.......dddd
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Comment #39 posted by New Mexican on July 02, 2001 at 23:39:39 PT
Stonedddd...I hope! have fairly strong recuperative powers and they are especially strong right now, although you'r prone to infections (golden seal). You have what I call last-minute luck, and are very talented at whatever you choose to do. This is a lucky year for you, so make the most of it, and don't just sit back right now, because there are too many great things waiting for you now. You've had family disasters in the past, and right now, relationship disasters are more of a theme. But you've been the hero before, and you get to be the hero now, so thank your lucky stars and continue to express your wonderful ability to describe corporate corruption and legal lawlessness in terms I would wholeheartedly agree with. Creativity, hard work, investments (real estate, your green thumb) art, music and anything of lasting value like saving the world, helping others, and leadership roles will beckon you now!Oh, and by the way, that roller coaster you've been on for 5 years is just about over, so 2 more to go and life will be back to normal! Hope this helps!BuenoBye!
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Comment #38 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 23:39:32 PT
Thank you....The feeling's mutual.....dddd
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Comment #37 posted by CongressmanSuet on July 02, 2001 at 23:37:38 PT
Wait a minute...
 I seem to remember the date you mentioned dddd as the date of the birth of the anti-christ. At least that is what is said in the movie "The Omen". I think, or I could just beconfusing it with the birthdate of my sister-in-law.
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Comment #36 posted by CongressmanSuet on July 02, 2001 at 23:28:53 PT
you make me proud!
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Comment #35 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 23:10:01 PT
New Mexican,,,,what do the stars say about 02/07/56?.....ddd...d
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Comment #34 posted by New Mexican on July 02, 2001 at 22:52:24 PT
Let's get healthy!
Hello everyone!I'm sorry to hear that everyone here seem to suffer from anything, let alone physical ailments like tumors, cancer, and the usual colds, infections etc. Does anyone mind my suggestions? I'd like to help! First, the book "The cure for all disease" will explain any and every problem as having a basis in parasitic infections and goes from there.Start with your immune systems and boost them with echinecea/astragulus frequently. Then, maintain your health with wheat grass, super blue green algae, colloidial silver, and for those with tumors, noni juice (it's widely available thru health food practictioners). Also biofeedback, meditation, yoga, (breathing, stretching). Everyone has healing powers, and all dis-ease is a tool to access our abilities. Once you've mastered your own health, the point is to help others master theirs. "Physician heal thyself." I think that was Hippocrates, but don't quote me.The body naturally heals from all dis-ease if we allow it. Cannabis seems to enhance healing through the effect of changing one's perspective, thus allowing a higher power to work magic upon ones soul, filling our requirement as humans for 'mystery'. Can it's effect ever truly be explained? Can one explain 'Good' (God), or 'love' or 'life'? Sure, but it's futile! Why? Because every question leads to another and another. Believe, have faith in yourself and the universe, heal and be healed! If you're interested C-Suet, FOM, dddd, leave your dates of birth, or the one you're concerned about, and I'll be glad to give my astrological/medical 2-cents worth (no charge), and I'm serious. C-News sure feels like family!
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Comment #33 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 22:09:52 PT
Far out CS...Thank You....dddd
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on July 02, 2001 at 20:55:34 PT
Whatcha Sayin?
CongressmanSuet Huh? LOL! Who's a what? I'm only kidding and thanks for the nice words and good luck to you.dddd, It was a strange time.
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Comment #31 posted by CongressmanSuet on July 02, 2001 at 20:49:07 PT:
Actually, dddd...
 The "Suet" part was a contraction of the words "Suez[as in canal] and "Minuet" as in the ghost sequence in the classic Abbot and Costello Movie "The Time of Their Lives". I was making a political statement about the "ghost of time, and the importance of the Suez Canal" somehow...yeah, thats it, a political statement! PLEEEEZE!!! CongressmanSuet was born when I didnt have the heart to steal the "Senator Dollars" nom de plume I saw on a horse racing message board. And it seemed like the perfect caption for use under a picture of Robert Byrd! OOPS, hes a senator, ah, same thing... as "Willie" on the Twilight Zone once said, "I hope your satisfied..."
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Comment #30 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 15:48:30 PT
You are cool.....Your state of mind will get you throughthis better than a doctor,,no matter what their nationaliy.I have always wondered about the 'Suet' part of you pen name.Now that you have verified your gender,,,,is the 'suet' likefat,or lard,,to mean 'Fat congressman'???,,or somethingmore mysterious?.........dddd
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Comment #29 posted by CongressmanSuet on July 02, 2001 at 14:55:54 PT
You guys are right..
 and thanks for reminding me of whats real and what isnt. Lehder, your advice of having it removed is sound, but hasnt been given consideration as an option by my foreign born doctor[not to swipe non-Amerikan born doctors, this guy is really not too bad]. Second opinion, in 2 weeks, things move slowly in this backward, hillbilly hellhole[ Im right between Md., and OHIGHO]. FoM, I believe Im trulyblessed to have married a girl 15 years ago who is very much like you. There isnt a selfish bone in her body, her biggest question is "Should we move near a university hospital center?[a little premature, as I find out more about this thing] when I first heard it pronounced I thought I had that disease that Ralph Kramden thought he had, you know, the dog disease[let a doc throw a term like you and you will get my drift] but as I read more, its not quite as scary as I originally thought. Your husband is very lucky to have found someone like you as a partner but I bet he is well aware of it. Now, as for YOU dddd.... I for one am finding GREAT irony in getting this diagnosis. Here I am, going on my merry way, pontificating ad nauseum at times, to anyone who will listen about the truly remarkable qualities of medical cannabis, and low and behold, I get a diagnosis similar to one of our leaders! And all the while I thought I was ingesting the herb to treat depression and aid in my respiratory problems, when in reality I was unconsciously using it to inhibit tumor growth! LOL You talk about the "changing face" of medicine today. My Father was a prominent GP in Northern NJ for over 30 years, and I watched that face change from a close vantage point. I still remember when he would do office examinations with a cigarette dangling from his lips, drank about 30 cups of coffee a day, and if he needed to lose weight he would go on a high protein diet that almost had to be a great help in killing him from cardiovascular disease at 60[after 4 heart operations, onedone by Denton Cooley in Texas, prominent doctors dont get worked on by regular doctors]. But, he showed thecompassion towards his patients that they deserved, and he felt it was his duty to do so. Im old enough to remember the midnight phone calls, him grabbing his "Bag of Tricks" and out he would go, many times being there for assurance more than anything else. I remember all the tmes my Mom would complain that so and so hadnt paid their bill in months, and he would just say, forget it, that was our way of giving to charity. I remember the car accidents we always stopped for, I remmber him getting involved with the local Catholic church, having shipments of antibiotics sent[at his cost] to a needy mission in Port Au Prince, Haiti[when papa Doc was still in power, no less. Nowadays, most doctors spend half their time complaining about medicare, and would rather DIE than stop to assist at an accident scene[my God, they might actually save a life, but it could also turn out to be a nasty lawsuit]. Yes, medicine,[ even with all the advancements] has changed for the worse, but I believe its just a symptom of a truly sick society, one that is getting sicker by the day...Thanks again for all the comments, somehow I feel alittle better knowing that this community is here, there are still places of compassion we can go to. Thanks guys.
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Comment #28 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 12:57:35 PT
FoM,,,that must have been an indescribably strange time foryou and your family...that's too heavy......My sincere,belated condolences.Lehder,,yup Dick Cheney has a pretty good health plan,,,but Iwouldnt be surprized if he was already dead,and they hiredRich Little for a couple of million as a faux Cheney...Cheney is a microwave oven away from the great beyond......It dont matter how much money you got,or how good of aninsurance plan you have ,,,,,,when the bell tolls,you end upbeing the same as everyone else on the other side.......Massive wealth,and extraordinary prestige probably dontlook the same in the next world,,,,if one agrees that there isa next world,,,,and even if one dose not believe there is anythingleft after death,,I guess it would be no big deal,more like a pleasantsurprize,,,or in some cases,a dreadful nightmare.........I've already said too much...dddd
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on July 02, 2001 at 12:10:48 PT

My 2 cents
How about this story. My son had a living will and he had a do not resusitate order. He was put on a respiratory even though he had that ordered but he OKed it. We were called and told to come to the hospital as soon as possible because they were going to turn the machine off. Some of the family had to come many miles including us and we were told to be at the hospital at a certain time by the Doctor. Everyone arrived and we waited for the Doctor to turn off the machine and the nurse finally paged him and said he went home because he had friends coming over but go ahead and shut the machine off. That is the way it is and will be and it's wrong.PS: They shut the machine off but he resisted so much that they turned it back on and he came out of it and lived almost 4 more months.
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Comment #26 posted by Lehder on July 02, 2001 at 11:55:22 PT

crooked doctors
sorry to hear of the medical and administrative abuses to which you've been put by the health industry, dddd. these are common experiences nowadays, much my like own and many others i've heard about the last several years. incompetence and greed nearly killed some of my family last year and this too. it stinks. physicians these days are more like corporate executives and big shot administrators than health care "providers". insurance or no, if you are sick in the u.s., well, good luck. you are quite right that the health industry is crooked in the same ways as the drug war industry - a big gravy train, everybody getting something for nothing more than incompetence and abusiveness. i'd go on, but there are more and more articles i see in the popular press about people's nightmare experiences with health care; maybe enough will get mad enough to start demanding some accountability of doctors, if not drug warriors. to the congressman - listen to the nurses, they usually know more - and will tell you more if you ask - than the doctors dick cheney gets good health care. but i expect he'll be out of office for health reasons before long. then bush will get a nazi - a genuine nazi like ashcroft - in his place. now remember that 20 yr hex - how every president since lincoln ( except reagan who was shot near fatally ) - so the story goes, so it must be true - elected in the 20 yr multiples -00 -20 -40 etc winds up dead or unable to finish his term. there was a lot of talk about this hex when kennedy got shot - i was old enough to watch the whole mess and the televised live murder of lee oswald on b&w tv. i figure on bush getting whacked after cheney is out and then we'll have a true nazi for president, someone we never heard of or expected. should be interesting.i also predict that the final destruction of america will come in about 25 years when oriental countries send trillions of lethal artificial insects in vast clouds over the western hemisphere. we will have no defense: our drug-free science will fall behind and our conventional weapons like bombers will be of little use. orientals consider all the races in america, save their own, as inferior and will have no qualms in killing us.our ancestors drank rye whiskey, they smoked lucky strikes with no filters, they drank cokes with coca in them, smoked reefers, slept only with women and won every war they fought. they had good doctors who came to the house. they did not take shit from cops or bureaucrats. the good old days. what happened? i think people just got too polite to complain: make no waves - the secret to success and corporate you can tell, i see alot of really big problems in our world; but they ain't gonna get solved with people brainwashed into attributing them all to drugs. dig in,dddd, times are gonna get a lot worse before they get better. at least it's a nice day here. i don't even see any chemtrails today.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on July 02, 2001 at 08:50:18 PT

I found something. Here it is!
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on July 02, 2001 at 08:36:31 PT

I've been looking for something to post for you but haven't found anything yet. I have a few more places to check and if I find something I'll post it here. Do you have good insurance? If so get a second opinion. We are self employed and the VA is all we have for my husband. Have you been checked for HCV? I think most people should be checked. If a person doesn't have insurance you can donate blood and you will automatically be tested for Hep C. Then it doesn't cost anything. Having health problems is not being a Hypochrondiac. It's reality as we get older. I'm sick today with a bad respiratory infection and feel horrible. I'm glad I am sick though because that means that my husbands illness this time is not from the virus because I got sick.I'm sure I have the virus too but am not concerned at this point. If we want to continue this thread and talk about health issues I sure don't have a problem with doing it. We are a community of like minded people and shouldn't be afraid to say what is on our mind.
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Comment #23 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 07:00:08 PT

As usual,,,I agree with what you say,,,,but let's not forget,asecond,,third,,or more opinion,,nowdays,for the uninsured,isprobably gonna cost more than 4 months rent,or mortgage,,,or a fleet of the old beat vehicles like I drive......and even for the insured,,,miles of red tape would be involvedwith your "provider",(dont you love that term ;"provider",,as ifthey were benevolently providing you something),if you wantedto try and get them to pay for a second opinion....we are gettingf*#ked,to put it mildly....and if you are one of us 48 million with no health insurance,wellyou better not get sick,,,and if you should end up in the emergencyroom,you might have wished you were dead....Here in California,itwas recently discovered,that if you are covered by insurance,yourbill is about HALF,of what it is if you check in with no insurance......The explanation from the embarrassed health industry represenative on TV was something to the effect that;,,since HMOs'and such buy in "bulk",,they get a better rate.....4 years ago,I had to check intothe emergency at the local hospital.I had severe stomach pain,foodpoisoning or something.They x-rayed me twice,gave me some strangepotions,,told me I had a collapsed lung,,,anyway,,4(four) hours later,Ichecked myself out,after signing a waiver that if I died,I would not sue,etc.....2 days later,I got a bill...for 5 GRAND!!....I'm not kidding,,5 thousand dollars an change....I started looking into what was going on.They did such things as,,,,Charged me hundreds of dollars for whole bottles of pills,that they had given me one pill out of,,,their explanation was,"once you open a bottle,you cant give the pills out of it to anyone else..........The friendly young x-ray tech,who misdiagnised me,charged $1800.00 for looking at my x-rays for less than 20 minutes...I could go on,,,.....The drug war is full of crooked officials,and slimy businesses ,that are shamming us out of countless millions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well ,,the shamsters and sheisters in the health and insurance game,makethe drug war crooks look like wimps.......I forgot to mention in an earlier,rambling post about drug ads on TV,,,,,,,,That is,,,,you can tell where the most shameless,and giant money is beingmade,,,,all ya gotta do ,,is turn on the TV to ABC,CBS NBC,FOX,,etc,,andlook at primetime commercials....You will see ads for FastFood,Soft & hard drinks,Autos,Insurance,Grocery stores,Banks...........Check out ,Meet The Press,orThis Week,on Sunday morning,,you'll see GE,,ADM,,Insurance/investments,,these are the entities that now own the government and the media....disgustingas it is true......discontinuingdumbfoundeddisenchanted,discabobulation 
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Comment #22 posted by Lehder on July 02, 2001 at 05:52:42 PT

good health to you, CS
if i had a 5 cm tumor i would demand that it be removed and not wait months on end to see if it grows. physicians in this country are as corrupt and ignorant as drug warriors. one out of every three deaths in this benighted country results from medical misdiagnosis. one in three people who enter a hospital wind up with somethin they didn't have when they went in. you have to be very aggressive with physicians here, most of them considering themselves deities - as they are taught in our too easy to get into medical schools - and you an ignoramus. it sounds to me, congressman, like you need a second opinion and maybe a third and fourth until you can find a physician who is interested in medicine and not exclusively in money and medical profession politics. if your physician knows what's wrong he may or may not say what it is; if his opinion differs from what the head physician casually surmised without an examination then he may very well keep his diagnosis to himself for fear of stepping on the great one's toes. if you can find a semi-skilled physician who understands cause and effect then you are doing better than most. christ, i hate doctors. if you have health insurance then you are very lucky; 48 million people here do not. get the merck manual and whatever medical books you need in order to understand the illness yourself. you cannot rely on the competence or the intentions of most physicians: like drug warriors, they're in it for the money and to hell with the patient. good luck. 
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Comment #21 posted by dddd on July 02, 2001 at 04:55:31 PT

I am not a real doctor
...but that depends on how you define 'real'.....and I knownothing about this diagnosis of the obscure "Kubbys' disease.......and I dont mean to make light of your situation CS,,,but Ido have a little bit of good news......I have reminded myselfof this many times,and it somehow makes me think thing arebetter,,,,,,It is somewhat simplistic,,and perhaps idiotic,,butI dont feel so bad when I say to myself;;;"things could be wayworse".I stumbled upon this elementary concept,when I lived with myfriend Gordy.....Gordy was a quadrapalegic,,,I became near deathsick several times when I lived with Gordy,and I still had to keephelping him,and even though I could barely get out of bed,at leastI had functioning legs and arms,,and somehow,thinking about Gordystruggling through life for the last 25 years,without the luxuryof functional arms and legs,,,,,somehow,,I think it helped me torecover......Now I'm not saying this is the "good news",you were looking for CS,but seeing Gordy always made me feel fortunate for what I still had,and it has helped to remind me to live life remembering what I stillhave,and still can do,and try to minimize the thoughts of things thatare not so good...........I watched my Mom die of colon cancer.She was diagnosed with it,and a yearlater,she died........My wild,hard drinkin',,heavy smokin' stepfather in law wasdoing just fine.He always hated going to the doctor,,,,anyway,he was forced to have a checkup,and they told him he was sick,,,less than two weeks later,he turned green and shriveled up and died.....I have this sorta crackpot theorythat says;,,if you can avoid believing you are sick,then you have a betterchance of recovering................Consider the case of my two great aunts,,,theywere twin sisters....One of them,was a total health nut,,purified water,plentyof excercise,extreme organic healthy diet,,etc...her twin sister was totallyopposite,,,,she smoked cigarettes by the carton,and drank liquor by the gallon.,,bad diet,,,gambled away every cent......she lived to be 97 years old,,,,thehealth nut sister died at the age of 52....I think it was partly because she wasso worried about dying,or not being healthy................Then there was my fatherin law.,Jim Riley,,a hard livin',hard drinking sonuvabitch,fightin' and f#*kin'his way thru life,,,,smokin' a pack of Marlboro 100s 4 times a day,,he wasdiagnosed with lung cancer,,,,when the doctor removed one of his lungs,,,,he told him that he might have another year to live,,if he was lucky......Jim Riley basically told the doctor"F*#K You!",,,he continued to idioticlyhack down cigarettes with his single lung.Jim Riley lived for another 16 yearsuntil he got killed in a car wreck.What does this all mean you may ask??...I dont know,,other than to say thatI think your mind is stronger than your body?...?.....I am almost afraid to even post this,because it sounds sorta stupid,andI know that my good friend CS has a cynical streak that rivals mine,,but I hope it helps in some way.If nothing else,it could be seen as amusing......Peace.......May JAH Shine on You Always and Forever....dddd 
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Comment #20 posted by CongressmanSuet on July 02, 2001 at 02:16:31 PT

I know this is not the topic...
we are discussing here, but I feel a certain need to ask some of the more medically versed posters here a question. And please, Im not a hypochondriac by any means. I have lived with severe COPD[53% function] for some time, and have gotton great relief by using cannabis on a regular basis as an expectorant. I have had a dull pain in my side for about the last 6 months or so, and out of concern did the CAT scan, etc, blood work, and had a biopsy done a few weeks ago. The results? They think I have a pheochromocytosis, adrenal tumor, which would explain my abnormally high blood pressure, and my unresponsiveness to unconventional anti-hypertensive medication. Am I afflicted with "Steve Kubby Disease"? Is this the one and the same. I am having trouble getting any type of real indepth info on the web on this. Does anyone here have any real info as what I am to expect? The tumor measures 5cm, and will have to be re-examined in a few months as to the growth rate. C'mon people, is there any good news?
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on July 01, 2001 at 20:37:40 PT

Thank You GCW,I think that Hemp Seed Oil could be good. I wish we knew more about how this virus works so we can fight it the best way. If he becomes a candadate for treatment it is a very long treatment with drugs that are very toxic. I think it is between 28 and 40 or more weeks. Right now I am giving him Milk Thistle, Vitamin E and Green Tea. When we know the extent of damage to the liver ( by the time you get diagnosed 60 % of the Liver might have been destroyed) we will know more as to what should be done but really this is a 100 percent lifestyle change type disease. The problem is no one knows what works best. Thanks Again.
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Comment #18 posted by The GCW on July 01, 2001 at 18:07:41 PT

To FoM - brainstorming
What about including Hemp seed oil? I was just eating my salad for din din and as usual for going on 3 years I put Hemp seed oil and vinager on it. Look into Hemp seed oil benifits if your not aware of it. One source is Hemp For Health by Chris Conrad.What is missing from our diets that was more prevelent years ago? Hemp seed oil: THe bird used to eat the hemp seeds & we would eat the bird etc.). It has Gamma Linolenic Acid which is something that the body makes but thought not to make enough in people that drink too much, maybe for the liver problems? GLA is implicated for a STRONG immune system. Also consider hempseeds. This stuff gamma linolenic acid is only available in about 5 places on the planet and that includes hemp seed oil and MOTHERS MILK!!! Who do you think put that there? For vegitarians, hemp seed oil seems valuable.The Green Collar Worker
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on July 01, 2001 at 14:41:41 PT

Thanks jAHn
Thanks jAHn,Your dad must be around 50 I'm guessing. Eating meat is something that we can barely stand. The problem is finding something to eat that you like and is good for you. I wish the VA would do a biopsy but it's the VA and they don't do a biopsy unless you are going down hill really fast. He has another test coming up ( scope of stomach )when they let us know in the mail and it is usually a month after you get the notice. He isn't to see the Doctor until November yet he is sick. He's lost about 10 pounds over the last few weeks and is fighting a bad respiratory infection and driving a semi too. He worries me so. Thanks for sharing the information.
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Comment #16 posted by jAHn on July 01, 2001 at 13:53:30 PT

I know this may not be much, But...
...My Dad has the same affliction as your husband, FoM, and it worries me as his 24 yr. old child. He goes for biopsies every few months or so to have his condition checked.  I read in HighTimes that the consumption of Ginger Root helps to rid the body of toxins, therefore, helping ease the livers' capacity to do all the cleansing itself. I'm not sure how Posi-Proof this study is, but the reasoning isn't far from home- to me at least.My dad's the SAME way. Doesn't take Aspirin, Alcohol, Pot- any longer, or even Caffeinated Soda. He's one of the Strictest Vegetarians I've ever been gifted of knowing. Him and my step-ma are Pure Vegetarians who eat NO meat what-so-ever because of the Toxic content ((and the Mental Imagery of Scenes of a Slaughterhouse or Mistreated Animals on Farms)). He eats LOTS of fruits and vegetables- EVERY DAY, for the minerals/vitamins/natural healing properties have to be REPLENISHED- day to day to day- Until "The End." The same goes for any Child/Teen/Young Adult/Elder Young who wishes to have Optimum performance of their bodies' nature...a healant! If you keep your body NICE and Clean, ya can Dirty it with Subtle Intoxicants ((Cannabis and Other Herbs)) that may hold Great HEaling properties when used in Conjunction with Appropriate levels of Minerals and Vitamins. AND even after We die, we're good SHIT for the Soil, which is in turn, GREAT FOR THE STATE OF THE CANNABIS!!! Hooray for Fruits, Herbs and Vegetables!!! I love Nature!
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 22:12:04 PT

Thank You GCW,I read the article and digestive problems were mentioned. I don't mention this web site ( C News) or anything about Cannabis on the HepC board but one person just said without marijuana he wouldn't be doing very well at all. It's interesting to read something like that on a board that is about a virus not marijuana. People know that it helps. Now we need for our political leaders to get it too. I pity, the I'll call them, the cocaine generation. HepC lives a lot easier for longer times not like HIV that when air hits it dies. So much as snorting coke can give this silent killer to a person. If drugs were legalized and controlled we would help prevent so many communicable disease. Even though my heart is in marijuana reform I know the results of prohibition and the death it could bring due to impure drugs etc. Thanks! 
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Comment #14 posted by The GCW on June 30, 2001 at 21:55:35 PT

*US Army Tests CT-3 Although this is confusing to me also, This story that you posted may be helpful to locate options. 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 21:24:19 PT

Thank You Mary
What you said made sense. My husband was diagnosed with HepC in February and we have been on a roller coaster ride. He does not drink or even take an aspirin. Since this is a pubic forum it's hard to be totally honest but if people with advanced Liver disease can't use Cannabis then I don't know what they could take that would be less toxic that can bring relief during the sick times. I am visiting a HepC Board when I'm not doing the news and am learning alot from the people there. It sure seems that HCV is becoming way to prevelant. We have a friend who just received a liver transplant. He was a heavy drinkier and it caught up to him before he knew it. Alcohol is the worst thing to use if you have HepC. 
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Comment #12 posted by The GCW on June 30, 2001 at 21:13:44 PT

more coincidences...
the St. Louis University School of Medicine, I beleive is where in app. 1985 cannabinoid receptor sites were discovered in the Brain.St. Louis, Missery is also the home of the Monsanto company (mentioned in one of the above articles. Which is actually in Creve Coeur, Missery. For what it is worth, Chris Conrad went to seminary school in Chesterfield, which is the emediate neighbor to Creve Coeur.It was nice to read that a bunch of people were protesting that M. company the other day over the poisoning of Columbia and surrounding South American neighbors.If we are asked to not use profanities, does that include the M. word?
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Comment #11 posted by maryL on June 30, 2001 at 20:47:50 PT:

deeper meaning
To understand this article you need to know that in cirrhosis most of the normal liver tissue has been replaced with scar tissue. As I understand it, endocannabanoids are dilating the blood vessels throughout the body, resulting in increased blood flow. In most people this would not be a problem and would likely be beneficial. However, in cirrhosis patients the small amount of normal liver tissue left cannot accommodated the increased flow. This causes a pressure build up as the blood enters the liver ( think of a big pipe meeting a small pipe). The increased back pressure causes fluid to leak out of the blood vessels leading up to the liver, resulting in fluid build up in the abdomen ("ascites" is a clinical sign of advanced liver failure). Paradoxically, in these patients having a higher peripheral blood pressure will reduce the blood flow to the liver and therefore actually reduce the pressure at the liver. This is probalbly not true for most people withou cirrhosis so is not anything that the general population needs to worry about.Hope this explanation makes sense (and is correct)-I'm a veterinarian, not an MD but dogs get cirrhosis too
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Comment #10 posted by Kickaha on June 30, 2001 at 20:01:54 PT

Pure Research
This doesn't seem nefarious to me. The article kind of garbles the information, but it seems that the researchers had observed low blood pressure as well as elevated levels of anandamide in cirrhosis patients, and hypothesized a relationship between the two. By performing an experiment in which they block the action of anandamide, and observe that blood pressure does indeed rise, they have evidence that their hypothesis is correct. An anandamide blocker could conceivably help cirrhosis sufferers avoid the complications caused by low blood pressure.This actually makes it less likely that an anandamide blocker could be used to eliminate a marijuana high, because this research implies that it would raise your blood pressure as well, a dangerous side effect.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 18:27:31 PT

Thanks Robbie
I appreciate your research. I am tired of the games they play. Cannabis is good medicine and I can't stand when they rant and rave about it. It's time for them to let it be and let us be. I want to be the master of my own destiny. That should be every persons right. I think I'm snappy about this article because I'm getting a cold or something and am grumpy. My husband is sick too and I lose my tolerance for stupidity when I feel like I do today. Cannabis is not just a substance that gets a person high but a herb that makes people feel more at peace. 
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Comment #8 posted by Robbie on June 30, 2001 at 18:01:50 PT

Question everything
Hey FoM,I did some research over at MAp. This writer, Schmid, did a report on alcohol from last year, in which he quoted heavily from government types about the evils of alcohol and drugs. He also did a couple of stories about the IOM report in 99. The first day he did a balanced piece about who was involved and what conclusions the IOM made. the very next day, he did another piece that quoted heavily from McCaffery, Robert McGinnis, and Bill McCollum of Florida (I never noticed the fact that these three drug warriors had Mc in their name. I hope thats not a trend ;-)As to whether or not this article has validity, has anyone linked marijuana smoking and cirrhosis deaths? Unless that happens, I doubt the link made here.Remember, THC is similar to anandamide in it's effects, not the same thing.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 17:17:48 PT

Thanks everyone,This just doesn't make sense to me. I realize how many people have or will develop liver problems and I don't understand what the point is. I hope this is wrong. They need to develop something to help with the blood pressure rather then trying do do things that might not help. 
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Comment #6 posted by lookinside on June 30, 2001 at 16:55:37 PT:

right now...
these observations fit right in with "the moon rises in theeast"...interesting observations, but no conclusions havebeen reached yet...
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Comment #5 posted by Hope on June 30, 2001 at 15:05:48 PT

Endocannabinoids and anandamide are certainly easy for me to mispell! Sorry!
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Comment #4 posted by Hope on June 30, 2001 at 14:53:26 PT

connects endocannaboid anadamide & blood pressure
"found that substances normally present in the body, called endocannabinoids, act on the blood vessel walls to cause dilation.The researchers found elevated levels of the endocannabinoid anandamide associated with low blood pressure." This seems to say that researchers think they may can raise blood pressure by using the drug that blocks endocannaboid anandamide...the same thing, I believe, that they said could block a cannabis high. It raises my blood pressure to even think of it!This makes me think of the study warning of increased heart attacks for cannabis users. Isn't high blood pressure usually associated with heart attacks? If the anamandine lowers the blood should protect cannabis users from strokes and heart attacks. 
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Comment #3 posted by dddd on June 30, 2001 at 14:31:21 PT

this means
that they have discovered a relationship between blood pressure and cirrhosis,and how it has the potential to have new treatments,and possible preventions,,,,,,at least that's how I see it.....dddd
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Comment #2 posted by sm247 on June 30, 2001 at 14:17:04 PT

No kidding !!
Thats a good question.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on June 30, 2001 at 14:11:19 PT

What does this article mean? 
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