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  Pot Trial Focuses On Magic Mushrooms 

Posted by FoM on October 27, 2000 at 06:40:47 PT
By Gus Thomson, Journal Staff Writer  
Source: Auburn Journal 

The trial of Steve and Michele Kubby shifted from pot to magic mushrooms Thursday. A half-gram psilocybin mushroom stem was produced as evidence by the prosecution, discovered Jan. 19, 1999, in a raid of the Kubby's Olympic Valley home. The search led to the discovery of 265 marijuana plants in various stages of growth – the main emphasis in the criminal conspiracy case against the couple.But the discovery of the piece of mushroom stem led to a charge of possession of psilocybin, a mind-altering substance found in what are commonly called magic mushrooms.
John Schlim, an expert witness for the prosecution on psilocybin, testified that a useable amount of the hallucinogen could be less than a gram, given that street purchases usually weigh less than the announced weight.Schlim, who has testified in more than 700 substance abuse cases over the past 30 years, was challenged on his use of the word "abuse" in referring to psilocybin use by Steve Kubby defense attorney Tony Serra. Schlim said that it's illegal to grow, sell or possess the mushrooms in California."If you ingest them in California, you're abusing them," he said.Questioned during cross-examination on whether he thought magic mushrooms were habit forming, Schlim answered in the affirmative."I don't believe a word of that," Serra remarked.Serra then began to delve into the expert witness' perceptions of mushroom users. Serra characterized them as cult-like, peaceful and idealistic, consuming the mind-altering psilocybin for "spiritual or esthetic enhancement.""Would you agree?" he asked Schlim.Schlim started out as an Oakland Police officer in the mid-1960s and now is a partner in a Fremont substance-abuse firm that bills itself as a business that provides "one-stop shopping for all your substance-abuse needs." He testified that there may be people using psilocybin for spiritual reasons."But in general today, most of the people I treat and test are younger and also involved in ecstasy, methamphetamine and cocaine," Schlim said. "Some are very violent."Schlim added that drug tests his business undertakes find a variety of drugs in urine from people who participate in raves and others who follow the now-defunct rock group, the Grateful Dead, including the date rape drug.At times, Serra's questioning took on the tone of a lecture to the jury on the lore of the magic mushroom, touching on its use as medicine in Mexico and tracing it back to the time of Christ."You can talk about Shaman, the White Witch, it's still dope," Schlim said.The Kubbys are on trial in Auburn's Placer County Superior Court for possession for sale and cultivation of marijuana, as well as conspiracy and psilocybin possession. The Libertarian gubernatorial candidate in 1998, Steven Kubby contends the pot was grown for his own consumption under Proposition 215. He suffers from a rare form of cancer. Michele Kubby has used marijuana to help with an irritable bowel ailment. Source: Auburn Journal (CA)Author: Gus Thomson, Journal Staff WriterPublished: October 27, 2000Address: 1030 High St., Auburn, CA 95603Copyright: 2000 Auburn JournalContact: ajournal foothill.netWebsite: http://www.auburnjournal.com/Related Articles & Web Site:The Kubby Fileshttp://www.kubby.org/Medical Marijuana Trial Moves Forwardhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7456.shtmlCannabisNews Articles - Steve Kubby:http://cannabisnews.com/thcgi/search.pl?K=kubbyCannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archives:http://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml 

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Comment #3 posted by observer on January 15, 2001 at 12:29:05 PT
FYI: The Way Of The Shaman
"You can talk about Shaman, the White Witch, it's still dope," Schlim said.Lying/ignorant narc. See (hear):S-1825 (10/24/1984)The Way Of The Shaman (teaching by Pastor Dr. Gene Scott http://www.drgenescott.com/docsbio.htm ... Scott reads trippy passages from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0062503731/ ; describes intense shamanic ayahuasca journey by Dr Michael J. Harner while in Peru.)Realaudiohttp://www.drgenescott.org/audio/s1825.ramWebTVhttp://www.drgenescott.org/audio/s1825w.ramScott also rails against taking "dope" and "Haight Ashbury" and "hippies", etc., but his descriptions of hallucinogenic experience are pretty interesting. "... beings with blue-jay heads and human bodies ..." 
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Comment #2 posted by legalizeit on October 27, 2000 at 12:32:08 PT
Schlim-Shlam, prohib rhetoric at its finest!
>"If you ingest them in California, you're abusing them," he said.Crap like this keeps the nonsense perpetuating. What gives the state/Fed government the right to tell us that we are abusing a natural substance? Obviously God(s) did not create magic mushrooms strictly for their role as decomposers in nature. They are there also for the purpose of inducing religious/introspective experiences, and were used safely by Native Am's for millenia before the European dweebs came over, proselytizing and starting this use=abuse BS.>Questioned during cross-examination on whether he thought magic mushrooms were habit forming, Schlim answered in the affirmative.Not only is this "expert witness" a self-righteous jerk, he is also just plain DUMB !> Schlim started out as an Oakland Police officer in the mid-1960s and now is a partner in a Fremont substance-abuse firm that bills itself as a business that provides "one-stop shopping for all your substance-abuse needs." Here we go with the vested interest again. If use does not equal abuse, and "abusers" don't make it into the penal (anal?!) system, the "treaters" are out of business.>"But in general today, most of the people I treat and test are younger and also involved in ecstasy, methamphetamine and cocaine," Schlim said. "Some are very violent."More typical cop tactics - when someone makes a statement that makes sense about a relatively benign natural drug, instead of acknolwledging or trying to come up with a remotely sensible answer, they switch the argument to dangerous synthetic ones.>"You can talk about Shaman, the White Witch, it's still dope," Schlim said.Typical prohib rhetoric, demonize a substance (just as long as it's not tobacco or alcohol) despite its importance in someone's religious practice (which incidentally is _supposed_ to be a Constitutional right. I forgot, when a "drug" is involved, the Constitution doesn't apply.)I wish this pinhead would find the nearest short pier and take a long walk. The world can do without his racist, misanthropic, condescending views.
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Comment #1 posted by observer on October 27, 2000 at 09:12:22 PT
links
Mushrooms From Heaven, by Steve Kubbyhttp://www.bluehoney.org/Manna.htmhttp://diseyes.lycaeum.org/fresh/mushmann.htmThe Politics of Consciousness, Steve Kubby 1995http://www.promind.com/bk_poc.htm?lycaeumWhy Marijuana Should Be Legal, by Ed Rosenthal, Steve Kubby 1996http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D1560251107/thelycaeumA/ 
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