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  Vote No on Ballot Measure 5

Posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 13:29:26 PT
Voices Of The Times 
Source: Anchorage Daily News  

Passage of the ballot measure that would legalize marijuana, which will be on the November ballot, would turn Alaska into Dope, U.S.A. We can't believe this is something most Alaskans want. Yet that could be the result if voters go to sleep on this stupid piece of business and actually allow it to be enacted into law. 
The measure is billed -- with a lot of pious posturing by dopeheads of all ages -- as merely a simple little law that would legalize hemp. And they stress that hemp really is an industrial product, and its legalization will save trees which will not have to be harvested to provide lumber to build houses, to make paper to print newspapers, or boxes to ship Christmas presents to friends and relatives Outside. They're blowing smoke. The real intent is to legalize the sale and use of marijuana -- even by 18-year-old school boys and school girls -- and to make it available across the counter at every dope shop in town, at every convenience store across the street from schools, at every hangout where kids gather and where adults can prey on them. This is about money. Lots of money. Tons of money that can be reaped by the growing and sale of marijuana. If this passes, kids still won't be able to buy cigarettes -- but they'll have marijuana at their fingertips, put there by aging dopers, some of whom may already have police records and rap sheets for illegal sale and possession of the drug. And that's another little bit of dirty business contained in this measure that has made its way onto the November ballot. If passed, the police records of all those previously convicted of marijuana crimes in Alaska would be purged and their convictions set aside. Those now serving time would be freed from jail. And if that weren't enough, Ballot Measure 5 would require formation of a panel to study the notion of restitution for those who served time in the clink for violating dope laws they knew were on the books at the time. The measure is an incredible piece of legislative flim-flam, masquerading as a do-good, feel-good effort to let people do their own thing. Unfortunately, were it to pass, Alaska would become heaven on earth for dopers who would flock here from all over. And it would lower the bar on society's unending efforts to control the use of illegal drugs by school children and young adults still unable to differentiate between what is good and bad. If ever there was a ballot measure worthy of a "no" vote on an Alaska ballot, this one is it. It's Ballot Measure 5. And for the sake of Alaska's social and civic future, it needs to be soundly defeated. Vote "no" on Ballot Measure 5. The Anchorage Times Commentary in this segment of the Anchorage Daily News does not represent the views of the Daily News. It is written and published under an agreement with former owners of The Times, in the interests of preserving a diversity of viewpoints in the community. Source: Anchorage Daily News (AK)Published October 8, 2000Copyright: 2000 The Anchorage Daily News Contact: letters adn.com Website: http://www.adn.com/ Related Articles & Web Sites:Free Hemp in AlaskaAl Anders, Chair2603 Spenard RoadAnchorage, Alaska 99503 (907) 278-HEMP E-mail: freehempinak gci.netVisit their web site: http://www.freehempinak.orgHemp 2000R.L. Marcy, ChairP.O. Box 90055Anchorage, AK 99509907-376-2232 (p)Fax: 907-376-0530 (f)E-mail: marcy hemp2000.orgVisit their web site: http://www.hemp2000.org Pot Placed On Ballot in 4 Stateshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7289.shtmlHigh Hopes in Alaska for Sweeping Pot Law http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread7173.shtmlAlaska Hemp Initiative 2000http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6045.shtml

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Comment #27 posted by nl5x on October 13, 2000 at 02:16:06 PT
 Vote "YES" on Ballot Measure 5. 
To date (10-13-00) I have seen all the shows from PBS part 1&2 to the history channels continuing series.info.overload!My dss came through after all!! Hemp hemp hooray!!!
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Comment #26 posted by dankhank on October 12, 2000 at 16:28:17 PT:
The mystery of DSS ...
Until recently a customer could not get any of the "local," CBS/ABC/NBC/FOX/PBS, station that would be available "locally."What this meant to me was that I had a abc in town, and a cbs and nbc and fox about 50 miles south in Texas. Then also abc/nbc/cbs/fox/pbs 90 miles north in OKC, so none of those stations was available to me on the DSS.A friend of mine got nbc/cbs/fox/pbs on His DSS by saying that he had NO antenna up outside and was not going to get one. He still didn't get the in town ABC, DSS told him to put up rabbit ears ...Even so, these weren't "local." cbs/denver, abc/NY, fox/Chitown, nbc/? Soon you may be able to get your "local stations" on your DSS, for a fee, I am sure ... but not everybody will get a chance right away ...In any case, I have DSS, and down/dirty basic cable. (12 channels). No One talks about the fact that the DSS signal is the first to fail when the clouds get thick in the southern sky. I then get my "local" station over a wire, (cable), and that lasts a lot longer. Here in OK, though, there are some pretty fierce thunderstorms/tornadic activity and the cable eventually goes out, then the FM lasts for a while before going out, too. Finally the only thing left to get realtlime info from is the police scanner.I'm weighing the pros and cons about putting up an antenna to see how long the local abc actually stays up on it's own, but I'm not sure I care enough.Any hoo ...I plan to get the one hour show tonight and that will be three out of four ... somehow I missed getting the opiate episode. All in all I believe the PBS shows were better, and had better real-time info.I think what jarred me was history channel was their saying that crack came from Columbia, at least I think I heard them say that. PBS said that Crack was a home-grown industry.I believe PBS.Later all ..... 
HEMP n STUFF
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Comment #25 posted by kaptinemo on October 11, 2000 at 09:04:04 PT:
Who is this "we"?
I haven't seen anyone comment on this yet, so I'm going to take a crack at it.'Passage of the ballot measure that would legalize marijuana, which will be on the November ballot, would turn Alaska into Dope, U.S.A. We can't believe this is something most Alaskans want.'Who is this "we"? Is this the truly editorial 'we' - or are we talking about the 'royal' "we" that antis seem to love indulging in. Or are these clowns so cruel as to be walking about with mice in their pockets? (It's terribly unfair to the mouse, and downright unsanitary for the humans, but with the huge amounts antis make from their theft-via-forfeiture, I guess they afford to replace both 3-piece-suits and rodents on a regular basis.) Who are they? The writers of this dreck remain safely anonymous while they hurl their BS at the public. They haven't the common decency to leave behind a point-of-contact. Which calls into doubt their own confidence in their stance. (At least I post an email address; and once again issue challenge to any anti who wants to send me your drivel; provided you also send a valid email address. Unlike antis, I invite debate, and encourage discourse, but be warned: I do not suffer fools gladly!) It only serves to confirm my first appraisals of the antis years ago: they're cowards.
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Comment #24 posted by Kanabys on October 11, 2000 at 05:28:48 PT
I got both
I recorded both of the PBS episodes. I've been a little busy lately so I haven't watched them yet, but come this weekend, I'll kick back and rate them. Hope there as good as I hope they are. Pax
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on October 10, 2000 at 14:31:55 PT
Primestar, Dish Network & DirecTV 
Hi Everyone! It looks like we DSS people might just get the program! Great! The times might not be correct for everyone. Hope we get to see it too! We sure don't want to miss it!Primestar, Dish Network & DirecTV - October 10, 2000Drug Wars - Part 2 of 2 ( I think they mean part one )Produced in collaboration with National Public Radio, this two-part series examines America's 30-year effort to stop the flow of illegal drugs into this country. The drug wars have absorbed hundreds of billions of dollars, altering the criminal justice system and putting millions of people in jail. Despite the United States' expenditures, the use of heroin, cocaine, marijuana and other illicit drugs remains essentially unchanged. Have the efforts been in vain? In exclusive interviews with both 'drug warriors' and drug traffickers, FRONTLINE presents a television history of America's war on drugs from both sides of the battlefield. Oct 10 9:00PM Primestar, Dish Network & DirecTV -- Wednesday, October 11, 2000 (all times EST) 1:00 AM  Frontline "Drug Wars - Part 2 of 2"  2:00 
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on October 10, 2000 at 11:29:54 PT
DankHank did you get it?
DankHank did you get PBS on your DSS? I didn't and neither did others. It is scheduled on the menu for tonight. I really want to see this series not Masterpiece Theatre.Thanks FoM!PS: The one on The History Channel was good but too woogly buggly! LOL!
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Comment #21 posted by Dankhank on October 10, 2000 at 11:17:02 PT
PBS ...
had the better show, really went deep ...2hours ...2 more tonight ...'Tween My DSS and local PBS station had both shows in the evening, and history repeating, hah! , again at 1200 midnight in Central TimeZone on the DSS.
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Comment #20 posted by bcg on October 10, 2000 at 07:02:17 PT:
History Channel show
I agree with howard. The show was ok, but superficial...and the Partnership for DrugFree Amerika ad undermined some of its credability for me.
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Comment #19 posted by howard on October 10, 2000 at 04:45:27 PT:
The History Channel on POT
It was a fairly good program, but it didn't contain the depth that I had hoped. They appropriately mentioned racism as key to early prohibition efforts, but notice how there was NO mention of the now PROVEN government/corporate conspiracy involing Mellon/Du Pont/Anslinger and the issue of HEMP vs. nylon. What a shame! The History Channel, whose many programs are underwritten by corporations, obviously didn't want to offend anyone ( especially their sponsors! ) They told only part of the story. I guess half truths are better than outright lies ( which is what we are accustomed to! ) When will EVERYONE know and understand what really went down in the 1930's? Cannabis prohibition is one of the BIGGEST shams perpetuated on people in the history of the WORLD! The History Channel gets a C+ for their weak effort on this topic. 
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Comment #18 posted by nl5x on October 10, 2000 at 01:45:41 PT
yea ,i got MasterPiece (sht)Theatre!
yea ,i got MasterPiece (sht)Theatre! 
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 21:46:51 PT:
One More Thing
nl5x I hope you get the program rather then MasterPiece Theatre! MasterPiece Theatre of all things to be aired instead of this program. I really wonder why.PS: The history of Methamphetamine was really good too! No wonder Hitler was such a lunatic! 4 shots a day didn't they say? Oh My!
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 21:40:40 PT:

It was a good program!

Hi CongressmanSuet, I did jump over and watched the program on The History Channel and it was good. I'll tell you something if pot made people really act like the people in the old film footage then everyone should stay as far away from it as they can. I have never seen people take a hit on a joint and look like they just blasted off into outerspace. It is coming back on at one and I'll watch it again. I taped it too. I am upset with Direct TV that we didn't get the program and I'm really tempted to call them and ask them why.I really believe that keeping marijuana illegal after all we know is a way to keep people down and under control. That's what I think.Peace, FoM!
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Comment #15 posted by nl5x on October 09, 2000 at 21:37:16 PT

HISTORY CHANNEL AIRS AGAIN

I missed the one on PBS but I think it re-airs at 12:00 my time. The show on the history ch. airs again tonight at 12:00Fom, the show that aired tonight on the history channel was great and is a must see. Like I said it will air again at 12.
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Comment #14 posted by CongressmanSuet on October 09, 2000 at 21:13:51 PT:

FoM, I was getting the same thing....

Masterpiece Theatre. So, what you needed to do was skip over to the History Channel and watch "Hooked on Illegal Drugs" at 9. That was excellent. The old footage, Dr. Grinspoon adding to the credibility of the movement[no, I have never seen a picture of him, but I was very glad to see he didnt look like Einstein, but was rather quite respectable and accordingly very articulate] they really did a very good job, will it matter? Ah, at least I enjoyed it....but does this matter? This isnt the first TV program I have seen or NPR broadcast to outline all the falsities of the war on Cannabis, yet It seems like people see this, say, hum, well, we dont want to encourage it..they forget what it was like before they gave up and just started stopping at the Liquor store because, well, hell, its not that easy to get, and I dont need the illegal hassle, soooo Im selling out. so,lets keep it the way it is, and maybe even get tougher. Does this make any sense?
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Comment #13 posted by Neil on October 09, 2000 at 18:53:44 PT

Be honest about it

You should be able to legally smoke it. It's fun. It feels good. And it has less harmful side effects than the now legal drugs alchohol and tobacco. Alaska would truly be great in my eyes if they just legalized it because they felt that people should have a right to smoke it. 
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 16:59:13 PT:

9PM ET Channel 384! Yes! Yes! Yes! & a Yippie!

Hi nl5x,Jim Lehrer just announced that Drug Wars will be on at 9 PM ET! Good!Ryan that is fine please don't worry about it. I'll fix it later if you want. Welcome to CannabisNews too!Peace, FoM!
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Comment #11 posted by Ryan E. Parker on October 09, 2000 at 16:05:02 PT:

Oops!

Pardon my mispelling of 'for'. I'm not a good typist.
ghost rocket weblog
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Comment #10 posted by Ryan E. Parker on October 09, 2000 at 16:03:14 PT:

must have been paid fore by D.A.R.E.!

Typical anti-cannabis posturing. What a crock. How about all of the money that cannabis could bring in to Alaska? God bless Alaskan citizens for even getting this measure on the ballot.A vote for Ballot Measure 5 is a vote for personal freedom!!!
ghost rocket weblog
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 15:53:41 PT:

I'm not sure

Hi nl5x! It is saying Masterpiece Theatre is on! They better not bump this program for Masterpiece Theatre or I'll be very upset and might even cry. No I won't cry just kidding. If it changes on the preview guide I'll post it here. If it isn't on I'll scurry over to the History Channel and catch their Marijuana Show.
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Comment #8 posted by nl5x on October 09, 2000 at 15:45:47 PT

dss

hey fom,i can't find the pbs(ch.384) drug war show on my dss for 10-9-00.i have looked ahead in the program guide and found it at 8:00pm on 10-10-00.i think you said you have a dss, right? i don't want to miss it.
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Comment #7 posted by schmeff on October 09, 2000 at 15:36:06 PT:

18 year old schoolboys and girls?

Maybe I'm dating myself (I pride myself in having an "institutional" memory longer than the average soundbite), but a lot of my friends who were 18 year old schoolboys were sent to Vietnam, in many cases to die for their country.They were responsible enough to carry arms in defense of their country's political objectives. Not responsible enough to make their own decsions about MJ apparently.Notice how the "For the children" crusade is here applied to 18 year olds. And if it applies to 18 year old children, undoubtedly it applies to 25 year old children...and 45 year old children...and 65...We're all basically children in the eyes of our "leaders". That's why we need a Big Brother.
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Comment #6 posted by i_rule_ on October 09, 2000 at 14:32:04 PT

So where is the down side?

After all the ranting and raving, where is the down side? Legal hemp will make products more enviromentally friendly, the de-forestation will stop, people 18 to 21 will stop being thrown in jail and raped, with pot regulated and sold in coffee shops, those bad mean drug pushers won't be preying on innocent people, good people who have had their lives ruined by prosecutors and judges will get their dignity back, people who use marijuana for medicinal purposes won't have to worry about being thrown in jail for seeking an alternative treatment that actually works without side effects, I mean, is it just me or is there no downside to this issue? Dope smokers have a lot of money, too, and tourism would be wonderful for Alaska. Please show me where I am missing the down side.Peace.
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Comment #5 posted by AOCP on October 09, 2000 at 14:12:53 PT:

Ban booze and cigs!!!

>And it would lower the bar on society's unending efforts to control the use of illegal drugs by school children and young adults still unable to differentiate between what is good and bad.You idiots are the ones who should be ashamed to open your pieholes. For the umpteenth time, i call on all you anonymous "do-gooders" to practice what you preach and make alcoholic beverages and tobacco products the Sch. I substances they so richly deserve to be! How anyone can claim to be for the brainless children while avoiding the biggest two recreational drugs we have them using (according to McCzar) is beyond me. If prohibition is the answer, then SO BE IT! Drunk driving and cigarettes kill tons of people every damn year and yet these morons still claim we can "work within the system" for those two intoxicants. Yet, when anyone brings up MJ, it's "we wouldn't want to add more problems to the mix". Well, guess what folks? If bringing MJ out into the open, regulated and taxed, would "add problems", then subtracting alcohol and tobacco should "take away problems". Anyone want to prove me wrong using prohibition-logic? Didn't think so. Tres bete.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 14:11:01 PT

Should we fix it?

Hi Occassional Pot User,I can't figure out how to fix the links but I can delete it and you can retry. Just copy the link like this and place it on the page. I will remove this too if you respond.It can't have >http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/ 
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Comment #3 posted by Occassional Pot User on October 09, 2000 at 13:55:29 PT

Recap of this week's hot TV lineup!

---PBS---Monday , October 99:00PM - 11:00PM Part I - Drug Wars(see http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/">http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/">http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/ for description)Tuesday , October 109:00PM - 11:00PM Part II - Drug Wars(see http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/">http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/">http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/ for description)---HISTORY CHANNEL---Note: all these History Channel shows are aired the previous day (4 hoursearlier) at 9:00pm.Tuesday , October 101:00AM - 2:00AM Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That WayMarijuanaIn a series tracing the history of drug use, we begin our trip tracing therise of marijuana and synthetic amphetamines. Marijuana, from the Indianhemp plant, has been used worldwide as a source of rope, cloth, and paper;its medicinal qualities were first documented 4,000 years ago in China. Butit's best-known as the drug of choice of the 1960s. WWII U.S. troops weregiven an estimated 200 million amphetamines to fight drowsiness and battlefatigue and they're still used to fight depression. [TV PG ]Wednesday, October 111:00AM - 2:00AM Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That WayOpium, Morphine and HeroinAn examination of the history of the poppy plant and three of its deadliestderivatives. In ancient times, the poppy was considered divine, but in the19th and 20th centuries, its addicting and lethal qualities causedunprecendented national outrage, social upheaval, and even sparked two wars.Used by the upper classes as patent medicines, heroin became the bane ofsociety when the working class began to use it. In 1914, Federal law bannedheroin and opium, and restricted morphine to medicinal use. [TV PG ]Thursday , October 121:00AM - 2:00AM Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That WayCocaineDerived from South America's coca leaf, cocaine was touted as a cure-all inthe late 19th-century and was the secret ingredient in many medicines andelixirs such as Coca-Cola. But cocaine's allure quickly diminished as racismentered the picture--the concept of the "cocaine-crazed Negro" even ledpolice to strengthen the caliber of their guns from .32 to .38. We'll seehow, though it it was outlawed in 1914, its popularity soared in the 1980sand '90s and gave birth to a deadlier form--crack. [TV PG ]Friday , October 131:00AM - 2:00AM Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That WayLSD, Ecstasy and RavesHow did the psychedelic drugs LSD and Ecstasy journey from a scientificdiscovery to a popular recreation to banned drugs? Mental healthprofessionals once believed that LSD could treat schizophrenia oralcoholism. Meanwhile, Ecstasy, the "penicillin for the soul", was used inmarriage counseling. Now, continuing the cycle of the hallucinogen, some ofthe latest derivatives in this category of drugs, the "rave" drugs such asGHB and Ketamine, are about to be banned. [TV PG ](see http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/">http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/">http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/ for complete listings)
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on October 09, 2000 at 13:40:46 PT

My Dilemma

Hi kaptinemo,I had a dilemma. There were two articles but only the name after the one that wasn't related to Cannabis. I weighed in on the safe side and didn't post it. If I find out he wrote it I sure will post the name. I hope I'm doing the right thing. I know this article good generate a few letters and I sure want it to be to the right person!PS: I'm so excited about tonights tv!
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Comment #1 posted by kaptinemo on October 09, 2000 at 13:36:08 PT:

Please note the weasel-words at the end

'The Anchorage Times Commentary in this segment of the Anchorage Daily News does not represent the views of the Daily News. It is written and published under an agreement with former owners of The Times, in the interests of preserving a diversity of viewpoints in the community.'No names of the antis who wrote this dreck. They're safely anonymous from the ire of those whose intelligence they've insulted with their diatribe.In other words, because of a legal loophole, the Anchorage Times Commentary must print this anti vomitus, whether it likes to or not. I feel sorry for them. 
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