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Colo. Pot Legalization Could Be Short-Lived
Posted by CN Staff on April 27, 2013 at 06:43:11 PT
By Valerie Richardson, The Washington Times
Source: Washington Times
Denver --  Recreational marijuana isn’t officially legal yet in Colorado, but there’s already talk of making it illegal again. A proposal under discussion in the state legislature would place a repeal measure on the November ballot. The repeal would take effect only if voters refused to approve a second measure to fund state costs associated with marijuana regulation.No repeal bill has been introduced, but that didn’t stop advocates on both sides of the issue from holding back-to-back press conferences Friday at the state capitol.
Mason Tvert, who led the successful legalization campaign, accused foes of trying to circumvent the will of Coloradans. Amendment 64, which legalizes recreational marijuana for adults 21 and over, won passage in November with 55 percent of the vote.“Placing such a measure on the ballot would amount to extortion of the voters,” Mr. Tvert said. “Voters will be told that they must vote for whatever taxes the legislators choose in order to prevent the repeal of the constitutional amendment they approved last November.”Diane Carlson of Smart Colorado said voters should be given the option of repealing Amendment 64 in order to avoid budget cuts to other spending priorities, such as K-12 education.“This just gives the option for voters that if there is not the money to cover the costs, then Amendment 64 should not be implemented,” Mr. Carlson said. “Are we going to shift money from our schools to fund marijuana? That is not what we were promised in the fall.”The debate comes as the state legislature grapples with a series of unknowns related to pot legalization, namely the cost of implementing the measure and the amount of revenue that would be generated by marijuana taxes.The legislature is considering a 15 percent excise tax and 15 percent special sales tax on marijuana, but a study released Wednesday by the Colorado Futures Center at Colorado State University said that the taxes may not be enough to cover the costs associated with legalization.Marijuana proponents are pushing for a 10 percent sales tax, arguing that anything higher could drive buyers back into the black market.Amendment 64 dedicates the first $40 million from the excise tax to school construction, a provision that bolstered its popularity with voters, but the CSU report said the excise tax will likely generate only about half that in fiscal 2014.A repeal amendment would require the support of two-thirds of the state legislature in order to qualify for the ballot. Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, but federal officials have not yet said whether they will allow states to proceed with recreational pot legalization as they have done with medical marijuana.Source: Washington Times (DC)Author: Valerie Richardson, The Washington TimesPublished: April 26, 2013Copyright: 2013 The Washington Times, LLC Website: http://www.washtimes.com/Contact: letters washingtontimes.com URL: http://drugsense.org/url/ZpzylwLWCannabisNews  -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml 
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on May 06, 2013 at 18:12:49 PT
 ekim
Thank you ekim.
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Comment #54 posted by ekim on May 06, 2013 at 15:23:41 PT
thank you FoM and Stick
for holding true. A friend in need is a Friend indeed
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Comment #53 posted by FoM on May 06, 2013 at 08:05:29 PT
BGreen
It isn't God's Will. Capitalism is destroying people. The idea of Capitalism is good but when greed takes hold it turns into something very bad like it is now. What happened to what Jesus taught about when you have done it to the least of my brethren you have done it unto me?
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Comment #52 posted by BGreen on May 06, 2013 at 07:39:25 PT
Thanks for the pictures
It's so very, very sad what is happening to them.I'm having a hard time dealing with all of the sickness. I wonder why that healing is supposed to be from God but all too often it is only available to those who have money? That's NOT healing from God, that's capitalism at its absolutely disgusting worse.I have a hard time accepting that it's God's will. I don't think it is.Bud
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on May 06, 2013 at 07:16:48 PT
BGreen Just 8 Months Ago
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx290/MarthaGier/dandr_zps63666463.jpghttp://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx290/MarthaGier/rob_zps6cdb2131.jpghttp://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx290/MarthaGier/dve_zpsefac9d30.jpg
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on May 06, 2013 at 06:58:53 PT
BGreen a Picture of Robin and Buffy
She is only 49 years old.http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx290/MarthaGier/robinIVsm_zps0fdd3b25.jpg
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on May 06, 2013 at 06:42:37 PT
BGreen
Robin came over with Buffy her Rottweiler we gave them last August and we had a nice dinner and sat out back for a long time and played with Buffy and talked about life. Dave couldn't come. He can't even talk anymore. He is totally bed-ridden. The Dementia has done what AIDS Dementia does unfortunately. I am hoping he will be put in a Hospice program so he can get morphine instead of liquid over the counter children's Motrin. He shouldn't be allowed to suffer.
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Comment #48 posted by BGreen on May 06, 2013 at 06:08:40 PT
How was your dinner with Dave and Robin?
You all were in my thoughts and prayers yesterday. It's bittersweet to enjoy each others company knowing what the future probably has in store. I know they appreciate you and Stick.Bud
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on May 04, 2013 at 16:02:56 PT
Hope
I voted for Reagan but it was because he was a movie star I liked and thought by being in Hollywood he would be very liberal and open minded. I was angry with Carter because he didn't decriminalize marijuana like he led us to believe he would. I agree with BGreen. Until Ryan White got AIDS because of a blood transfusion Reagan wouldn't give the up and coming epidemic the time of day. So many have died or are dying because of that delay.
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on May 04, 2013 at 10:48:11 PT
Ronald Reagan
Except for the drug war monstrosity, I loved the Reagans. Both of them. I loved all the old movies with him in them. I know... it was suggested to my young mind... but he was always a hero, a young american hero... brightly shining. A beautiful older brother and father figure. I liked his first wife, Jane Wyman, better. Nancy was the home wrecker. :)Seeing him often and watching him age, because of old movies of him, it seemed, almost, like I knew him. Robert Young might have made a great President, too. Maybe better.Yikes. Kinda scary.*Sigh*So there you are. He was smart, well spoken, and a very well trained speaker and actor. He was a very good communicator, until he started losing his mind. He felt safe, until he started failing. He was funny. A regular comedian. When he saw the doctors in the emergency room after he was shot he told them he hoped they all were Republicans.I don't know how you resisted it, BGreen. I guess it was growing up watching those old movies and his public self didn't veer too far away from all those characters he played.Nancy was a little too stiff and pert for me to be attracted to her as a person. And she helped so much to lay some heavy burdens on people because she hated substance use.Oliver North gave me a new image of Reagan. The old one became rather tarnished.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on May 04, 2013 at 04:58:12 PT
Hope and BGreen
Thank you. I love you very much. 
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Comment #44 posted by BGreen on May 04, 2013 at 03:43:04 PT
Ronald Reagan
He ignored the AIDS epidemic and ramped up the war on cannabis. He is one of the most despicable purveyors of hatred and death ever to exist. He is as bad or worse then Hitler and his ilk. I don't miss him but I am damned pissed that this evil non-human, Ronald Reagan, is being portrayed as anything else but the miserable old criminal he was.Just imagine where we would be right now if it weren't for him.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on May 03, 2013 at 22:23:35 PT
Your friends.
You know I'm praying, and grieving, for them, and you and Stick, too. I feel so bad for them, and you guys... but they, like us, are, in spite of all that's happening to them, blessed to have you in their lives. Especially during this truly awful time. 
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Comment #42 posted by BGreen on May 03, 2013 at 21:23:20 PT
You're welcome, FoM
It's only by chance that Mrs. Green and I aren't in Robin and Dave's shoes. Our circumstances are so similar. Even our ages. My heart breaks for them.Bud
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Comment #41 posted by BGreen on May 03, 2013 at 21:18:29 PT
100% correct, Hope!
That is exactly what I was talking about. It's the common trait that ties us together here at cannabisnews.com and it is truly equated with Love and exemplified by our actions.Bud
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on May 03, 2013 at 20:38:58 PT
BGreen... you're speaking a lot of truth.
The people that used to say that we just wanted to use cannabis legally is why we were complaining used to make me so furious. Hardly! Didn't they notice they were killing people and destroying lives hand over fist? How could they not feel anything about all that horror they were dealing out as a repercussion for disobeying them about cannabis? They just haughtily dismissed our grievances. They belittled us. They demonized us. They ignored us.I knew that their victims were doing nothing wrong and they, the prohibitionists were, and still are, totally out of control. They have to be stopped. They're freaking lunatics hell bent on dealing out grossly unjust punishments on people that don't deserve such treatment under any stretch of the imagination. Any sane imagination, anyway.It hurt to see it. It hurt me bad. My conscience was severely assaulted by seeing the results of their bullying. Cavity searches. Spying. Breaking into people's homes. Prison. Terror tactics. Humiliations. Threats. Murder. Destruction and thievery. And the so called "good" people were, and are, standing by and watching it happen and sometimes participating in the mayhem. Then saying their prayers.... "I hope I did good, Lord!" Some of them surely fall under, "Forgive them... they know not what they do."But some of them knew. Some of them know. Some of them are sick and get off on forcing others into submission. They are cruel and powerful and full of something... oh yes... hate. Hate mixed biliously with self righteousness and delusions of some sort of grandeur and power. They are so messed up, deluded, and dangerous. Full of iniquity, too. They deny it, but it's there and it is iniquity.
 
They have to be stopped and it's being done. I'm so thankful. They will be stopped. The wind is at our backs now. Finally. We are getting closer every day. We are going to see that the persecution and oppression stops. We are going to turn this hideous, killer, out of control behemoth around... the so called "Drug War" ... and bring it down... to the ground. The prohibitionists are going to have to find new jobs and careers. Hopefully, not finding another way of wreaking injustice and havoc on the lives of the people.
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on May 03, 2013 at 19:34:31 PT
afterburner
I was talking to Robin when I read your comment and I read it to her and she said thank you so much and she cried.BGreen, Thank you both.
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Comment #38 posted by afterburner on May 03, 2013 at 13:49:01 PT
FoM
I too will pray for them and for you.
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Comment #37 posted by BGreen on May 03, 2013 at 08:40:09 PT
Mrs. Green and I will lift you all up in prayer
Bud
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on May 03, 2013 at 07:57:13 PT
BGreen
Thank you. Please pray for them and us. I need God's strength to help me help them. They are two good people. Afterburner met them when he was here to see CSNY. 
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Comment #35 posted by BGreen on May 03, 2013 at 07:05:07 PT
I'm lucky and proud to have a friend like you
Robin and Dave are, too. Thank you for letting us know their names. It makes prayer so much more personal when I can pray for them by name.God bless you, FoM, and may God give you all the strength to deal with this tragic ordeal.Bud
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on May 03, 2013 at 06:35:04 PT
BGreen
We had many Sunday dinners together so I am going to try to have them both here on Sunday for one last time.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on May 03, 2013 at 06:32:14 PT
BGreen
I know what you mean. I spent the other night sitting with my friend Robin trying to prepare her for Dave's passing. He is almost blind now and going down fast. She is skin and bones and I had to tell her sister this morning that it might happen that Robin will have to be put in a nursing home since everything as crumbled around their life. They are both on 49.
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Comment #32 posted by BGreen on May 03, 2013 at 06:25:43 PT
We all learn that way to some extent
Some of us tend to be overly empathetic and we tend to put ourselves in others shoes, perhaps too much or else the way we were intended. I always wonder "what if?" What if that was my wife? What if that was my child. What if that was me?This trait that so many of us share is why our hearts bleed while the other side pours salt on the wounds.Bud
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on May 03, 2013 at 04:09:49 PT
BGreen
I agree with you. It seems they have to go through one of life's difficult lessons before they can see.
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Comment #30 posted by BGreen on May 02, 2013 at 20:40:23 PT
Conservative Christian usually equals selfish
I love it when the conservative Christians finally accept the miraculous healing cannabis plant. What I find thoroughly disgusting is that it's almost always because they've found it to be an agent of healing for themselves or a close family member or friend. They are supposed to be driven and guided by love but they are selfishly willing to let millions of others suffer until they need it, use it and then discover that THEY are the liars and that WE have been 100% honest and correct all along.Unfortunately, I've never once heard any of the selfish bastards apologize for their complicity in the amazing amount of horror they've inflicted on the partakers of the cannabis plant, even after de facto admitting that, once again, WE have been 100% honest and correct all along.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on May 02, 2013 at 15:14:20 PT
BGreen
That's amazing. He is so conservative.
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Comment #28 posted by BGreen on May 02, 2013 at 09:12:58 PT
Pat Boone supports medical cannabis!
Pat Boone family: Faith sustained us through tragedyPrayer and, at times, medical marijuana have proved essential for Lindy Boone Michaelis as she cares for her son, who was severely injured in a three-story fall through a skylight a dozen years ago.“I’m very grateful that this is available legally for Ryan right now,” Michaelis told Matt Lauer Wednesday on TODAY, where she was joined by her father, Pat Boone, and sister Debby Boone.(SNIPPED)http://www.today.com/news/pat-boone-family-faith-sustained-us-through-tragedy-6C9690350
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Comment #27 posted by BGreen on May 02, 2013 at 01:40:42 PT
anomalies
We don't hate Christians, we dislike the actions of those who choose to use Christianity as a tool of hatred and violence.I'm sure you feel the same.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #26 posted by BGreen on May 02, 2013 at 01:39:05 PT
I love you, too, Hope
I just saw your post. You and FoM are two of Mrs. Green and my most special friends. It's a spiritual thing without a doubt.Bud
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Comment #25 posted by museman on April 30, 2013 at 12:14:09 PT
Hope #22
It is said that 22 is a magical number... Love is the bottom line.Without that as a fundamental consideration in everything one does, everything one does is just vanity and waste.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on April 30, 2013 at 11:08:05 PT
Hope
You are like a sister to me. I believe in God and his love for everyone. I won't thump anyone for anything. LOL!
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on April 30, 2013 at 09:56:04 PT
Bibles
I see myself more as a Bible hugger than a thumper.
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on April 30, 2013 at 09:51:51 PT
BGreen, FoM.
I love you'll. Love is all that matters. Love is all that counts.
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Comment #21 posted by BGreen on April 28, 2013 at 20:43:03 PT
I am, FoM
She can still eat and breathe and wants my love. When that changes then I'll have to deal with it. I'm praying I don't have to.Bud
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on April 28, 2013 at 20:09:52 PT
anomalies 
I agree.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on April 28, 2013 at 19:47:45 PT
BGreen
Try to keep you kitty as pain free as possible. Death is so hard. If it's the humans we love or our pets. It's always hard. I love Hope. She has been as close if not closer then a sister to me.
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Comment #18 posted by anomalies on April 28, 2013 at 19:23:28 PT:
BIBLE THUMPING ANIMALS
I am christian, I don't drink or do drugs. And you would be surprised at how many of us "BIBLE THUMPING ANIMALS" live and vote in Colorado and are fighting to make this legal. We believe that children are being victimised by the monetary penalties that could be put towards their futures NOT to mention the parents that are in jail creating immense hardships for families and creating a decay in the family driven morals of the country.so please stop hanging us with those that want to break up families. We need to work together and get the word out TO VOTE.
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Comment #17 posted by BGreen on April 28, 2013 at 17:51:14 PT
They are very lucky to have you & Stick as friends
I know what I'm going through is nothing compared to your human friends but I took in a cat last August from a friend who was in the hospital for months and lost her house. This 8-year-old cat took me months to gain her trust. I've never had that much trouble. Cats love me. Cats come up to me at the amazement of their owners so this was hard to overcome.Long story short, my new kitty has mouth cancer and I can't afford to do anything but love her and care for her. At some point I have to make the decision on her life. On top of that, this Tuesday is the one year anniversary of the death of my last kitty.There is so much we can't change but having people around us that care about us and love us unconditionally makes our lives better.You and Stick have gone through an unfair amount of loss from close friends and family. My heart breaks for you every time. I'm wondering if it's because God knows of your love and compassion and He puts these people in your lives because it's something they very much need. I believe that's why you and Hope were put into our lives.Our prayers and tears are overflowing for you and your friends.Bud
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Comment #16 posted by mexweed on April 28, 2013 at 13:59:19 PT:
Zero in on tobacco COSTS
1. Remind everyone that nationwide health/productivity costs of "tobacco" (over 90% of which is $igarette addiction) are (CDC estimate) $193-bil./year; but access to cannabis will PREVENT millions of future $igarette addictions. Over 30% of US high school drop-outs (i.e. low-income) are hooked on $igarettes-- AND dependent on the taxpayer for medical help.2. When kids do something heroic to fit into the gang, let it be a toke rather than a HBO Hurried Binge Overdose on alcohol, pharmaceuticals etc. which can bomb out your brain for life (cost: $$ tens of thousands per year).
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Comment #15 posted by truth420 on April 28, 2013 at 11:13:30 PT:
nooo
Legal herb in the U.S? I knew it was too good to be true. I forgot to take into account the all dense, inhumane, cruel people who will wage war on this harmless plant until the day they die and then it still won't be over because... they had children! At least medical relief can be had if you live in the right state.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on April 28, 2013 at 08:55:59 PT
Sam
I am searching online and trying to help them. They don't have a computer. They will be evicted soon from their rental so that is my priority now. They told him he has about 3 months to live. He is going blind and has AIDS Dementia. I have pictures of us having a good times last summer. I can't believe how fast this is happening. 
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Comment #13 posted by Sam Adams on April 28, 2013 at 08:20:22 PT
sad news
FOM, sorry to hear about your friends, that's a very tough blow.  hopefully there some treatment options to pursue?  
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Comment #12 posted by The GCW on April 28, 2013 at 07:43:22 PT
Related
Marijuana tax debate stalls in late-night sessionhttp://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_23123871/marijuana-tax-debate-stalls-late-night-session"...The bill would give recreational pot a 15 percent excise tax and a special pot sales tax of 15 percent, in additional to local sales taxes. Republicans were seeking to lower the tax to 10 percent excise and 10 percent sales taxes.
The House will take it up again Monday."
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on April 28, 2013 at 05:35:06 PT
BGreen
Thank you.
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Comment #10 posted by BGreen on April 27, 2013 at 16:12:55 PT
I'm sorry about your friends, FoM
Does anybody know how expensive it is to put something on the ballot? Who is going to pay the thousands of dollars in order to again put this on the ballot? It needs to be shouted from the rooftops how many thousands are being stolen from the kids in order to circumvent the original will of the voters.How much State money is used to support Coors and all of the other brewing companies in Colorado? What about the tremendous cost to society and the legal system caused by alcohol and drunk drivers?Every police department spends tens of thousands on their "drug" task forces which almost exclusively target cannabis. Every cop knows this. It's their "easy button" for effortless law enforcement. They will lie, cheat and steal in order to keep the status quo.I've got news for Colorado and every other state. We will not and cannot ever go back. You blew it. Your lies are meaningless in our information-driven society. Even the senior citizens have gone from the flashing 12:00 on their VCR's to skillfully using Google and Bing to find the truth.Anytime we as a society choose imprisonment of our otherwise law abiding citizens as a boost to our economy, we are headed the same route as every other failed, formerly great countries. Those same failed countries lacked the instantaneous knowledge base that we all enjoy so it will NEVER again happen.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on April 27, 2013 at 10:58:41 PT
Expense of legalization?
Actually, there wouldn't be any, if they just refrained from prosecuting people. That money will be saved.They are talking about the expense of all the red tape and bureaucracies they plan on dumping on all legalization produced freedom and efforts at capitalistic or compassionate entrepreneurship.Savage, greedy people.
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Comment #8 posted by schmeff on April 27, 2013 at 10:17:15 PT
Willful Ignorance Rules the Police State
Legal cannabis is just too expensive to implement. It's a concept right up there with "they hate us for our freedom."The fear-mongers and thought police realize that the best way to sabotage any deviation from the status quo is to make sure they misstate the problem. With an improper understanding of the problem, any 'solutions' will inevitably fail.Consider recent events in Boston. The entire city was essentially placed under 'lockdown' to effect the capture of an unarmed nineteen year old. Ironically, the birthplace of liberty was subjected to martial law with nary a complaint: most of the citizens who were treated like prison inmates cheered their 'guards.' Never mind that the state of martial law was a total failure if accomplishing its intended goal (the suspect was located, not by the massive police presence, but by a private citizen who was permitted to leave their home after curfew was lifted.) The curfew wasn't intended to find the suspect, it was a show of force designed to accustom the populace to the new paradigm of civilian control.Considering the massive overreaction by the police and military to the Boston bombing, one could easily conclude that fighting terrorism is not cost effective. Can we afford to shut down everything every time there is an incident?The same police-state dynamic is operative in the cannabis legalization arena. The fear mongers who seek to profit from controlling us want to convince us that cannabis is dangerous. If they can convince us that this flower is so dangerous, then perhaps it will somehow make sense to spend too much time, energy and expense to legalize it. This homicidal flower demands high security measures to ensure public safety. Razor wire, video surveillance, fingerprinting, I.D. checks, armed guards, machine-gun nests around the hemp fields, child-proof packaging...it's all theater specifically designed to create problems where none exist.Tomatoes are more dangerous. Someone could throw a high-velocity tomato and hit one in the face. It would hurt...could possibly even break a nose. If the misinformation police determined that the same 'safety precautions were necessary to sell tomatoes, it would make sense to claim that legal tomatoes would be expensive to implement.When will we adopt zero-tolerance for the public "servants" who lie and mislead us?
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on April 27, 2013 at 09:37:24 PT
HempWorld
Yes we are. 
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Comment #6 posted by Sam Adams on April 27, 2013 at 09:09:57 PT
taxing
10% sounds fair. It that's the best idea, then we should have specified that in the ballot initiative, not left it up to the state govt, yes?
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Comment #5 posted by HempWorld on April 27, 2013 at 08:29:18 PT
FoM, we ARE On a Mission From God!
Do not forget this!Cannabis is a good medicine for hiv.
Pot Law
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on April 27, 2013 at 08:19:44 PT
I Am On a Mission
One of our best friends is not going to make it. He didn't go to the doctor because of no insurance and when he wound up in the hospital he got a shocking AIDS diagnosis. His wife just tested positive. We are going to lose the both of them and I am furious that this wonderful plant isn't legal. They are our closest friends and I am more determined then ever.
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Comment #3 posted by runruff on April 27, 2013 at 07:27:46 PT
Don"t ya just love it?
I smell desperation.
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Comment #2 posted by The GCW on April 27, 2013 at 07:21:50 PT
Not going to happen.
For a number of reasons, any and all attempt to go primitive will fail.It needs a super majority to go backwards.There is very little time left in the session to organize it.Colorado's support for ending cannabis prohibition is gaining, not diminishing.-0-"Rep. Frank McNulty, a Highlands Ranch Republican who is involved in the repeal talks, said lawmakers who support the idea haven't agreed on final language for a repeal proposal. The plan hasn't been officially introduced, either."I believe the voters understand this is mostly being used as a tool to invoke higher taxes rather than reasonable tax on cannabis.
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Comment #1 posted by Vincent on April 27, 2013 at 07:18:08 PT:
Repeal
As always, when these Bible-thumping, ignorant ANIMALS lose the game, they just try to change the rules. Such sore losers!
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