cannabisnews.com: Time Passing by Clinton Generation Time Passing by Clinton Generation Posted by CN Staff on February 17, 2008 at 06:12:32 PT By Susan Lampert Smith Source: Wisconsin State Journal Wisconsin -- The cute girl in the YouTube video has a crush on Obama. I know how she feels. I 've had a crush on Bill Clinton. I already know all the reasons why this is stupid. In fact, I saw one of those reasons standing in line, waiting to get into the Stock Pavilion on the UW-Madison campus.It was one of our former interns at the newspaper. She 's young and beautiful and smart. And I know how the old cad is with those young interns. So I jumped in line to protect her. Sitting there, in the old barn still redolent with the hay and animals that star in Stock Pavilion events, we scanned the crowd as we waited.Who got to sit in those reserved seats behind Clinton? They were the political version of the cool kid table in the high school lunchroom. She recognized UW-Madison student and superdelegate Awais Khaleel. As the rest filed in, I filled her in.That 's Joe Wineke, he used be a state senator, now he 's head of the Democratic Party. The bald guy? Tom Loftus, he used to be ambassador to Norway.The woman firing up the crowd? Hannah Rosenthal, she used to be and that 's her husband, Rick Phelps, he once was And then it hit me. I was talking about a time when she was in grade school.Finally, Clinton took the stage. I nudged her.He 's cute, isn 't he?She was diplomatic: He 's a very nice-looking older man.Sigh. Clinton didn 't seem bothered by the fact that Barack Obama outdrew him nearly 10-to-1 at the jam-packed Kohl Center two days before.Clinton delivered his valentine to Hillary, telling the students that his wife started changing the world back when she was their age and a Yale law student. He talked about how America 's status had gone to the dogs since he left office.He talked and he talked, for over an hour.By contrast, the Obama event had been quick-boom-bang. There was the cool celebrity video by the Black Eyed Peas on the big screen, a quick introduction by Gov. Jim Doyle, and a trademark Obama speech, short on details, long on inspiration.He talked about the young crowd, not to them: It 's your time, seize the moment.Remember 1992, when the Clintons were the cool young people?Back when they played Fleetwood Mac 's "Don 't Stop " and other songs of our generation.Out on the sidewalk was someone else who remembered.It was another graying Madison icon, marijuana activist Ben Masel, who was sandwiched by Secret Service guys in their sharp suits. Masel was holding up a sign that said, "Where 's Jacki 's medicine? "The way Masel tells it, Jacki Rickert, who suffers from a painful connective tissue disorder, met Clinton on his 1992 bus trip through Wisconsin, and asked him to legalize marijuana for medical use. Clinton told her, in his husky drawl, I feel your pain.But when he got into office, the president who didn 't inhale didn 't legalize medical marijuana. Jacki didn 't get her medicine. The rest of us who voted for him didn 't get our health-care reform.How will the future play out for today 's Obama girls?I do know this: After two hours on the cold concrete steps of the Stock Pavilion, I felt my own pain.Where 's my medicine?Source: Wisconsin State Journal (WI)Author: Susan Lampert SmithPublished: February 17, 2008Copyright: 2008 Madison Newspapers, Inc.Contact: wsjopine madison.comWebsite: http://www.wisconsinstatejournal.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Madison NORMLhttp://www.madisonnorml.org/Obama Exhibits Honesty About Drug Use http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23672.shtmlObama: Decriminalize Pothttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23646.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #159 posted by Hope on February 20, 2008 at 18:37:38 PT Toker00 Again, I'm sorry about your loss of Elvis. You're welcome about the jokes. Here's one for the road.A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road." :0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #158 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 11:17:15 PT afterburner Good songs. Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #157 posted by afterburner on February 20, 2008 at 11:00:14 PT Peaceful Easy Feeling YouTube - Eagles - Peaceful Easy Feeling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-YuuEqHZdwYouTube - Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Hey Hey, My My. performance at the Fuji rock festival 2001 of Japan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYV6PAckr5w [ Post Comment ] Comment #156 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 09:25:56 PT Hope Thank you so much. [ Post Comment ] Comment #155 posted by Toker00 on February 20, 2008 at 09:21:25 PT Hope I'm still telling those jokes and getting a hoot every time! Thanks! :)museman, you are too cool. I think the next step I take in the political pooh pooh will be the one you advocate. I already don't trust any of them and I never said I would vote for a Republican, but I sure would vote for another party with Ron Paul's ideas. Actually, they are not his ideas, and that is what most people miss. All they see is Republican and totally miss the message. But that's ok. The message is still there. It's been there two hundred or more years. You don't have to come to a web site or any media site to get the message. It's on the hemp fibers it was written on so long ago. It's also permanently embedded in every True Blue American's heart. It's not the message Government wants you to here anymore but that's tough. For the government. We have the right to change our government AND the Cannabis laws. In fact, the both are inseperable.I wasn't drunk with alcohol, Hope, but I was drunk with Liberty. I had poured myself a heaping cup before I sat down at the key board. Sorry, FoM, if I spilled too much of that Liberty here at C-news. I'll truly try to be neater about it in the future.museman, God bless you, Brother. I wondered where you were. Hope you and yours are safe and comfortable.Peace.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #154 posted by Hope on February 20, 2008 at 09:19:02 PT This came from my sister-in-law this morning . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMF_24cQqT0You might get some "Grace" from it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #153 posted by Hope on February 20, 2008 at 09:16:21 PT *smile* I love you. You are definitely a woman "after my own heart". Meaning, of course, that we're so much alike. Maybe we can meet someday. I hope so.In fact... I feel like catching a bus and running up there to give you a hug and comfort. I can't though... not right now, anyway. We all need comfort when someone who was supposedly a friend turns on us. Dang. I'm disappointed in our old friend, Truth... or more correctly, Mark. [ Post Comment ] Comment #152 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 08:55:50 PT Hope Thank you. You are my best friend in cyberspace. You are the person who has allowed me from up north to peer into the heart of Texas and learn. I hope someday we can meet in person. [ Post Comment ] Comment #151 posted by Hope on February 20, 2008 at 08:52:45 PT You're the best moderater ever, FoM. If that weren't true... we wouldn't all be checking in here everyday for years and years. A lot of your time and energy goes into the website, refuge, meeting place, soapbox, etc... and I so appreciate it. Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #150 posted by museman on February 20, 2008 at 08:39:49 PT late again I'm sorry I missed the excitement.I have to log in on this one.First of all, FoM, you have a tough job. You do it well. Nobody is perfect. Had Enough; Your lyrical/musical references are impecably apt.Toker; perhaps it is all this candidate debate crap that has at least temporarily distanced me from more participation - pesonally I don't believe in ANY OF THEM!My personal opinion is that you can't purify corruption with more of the same, and you can't even get in the game without capitulating to the corruption. They are all damaged goods, so why bother. I mean if all we really have are choices between great evil , and not so great evil, it's just a motion, a meaningless action at the voting booth.I think Hillary is a political whore -like her hubby- whose itinerary and agenda is one and the same as the rest of the bilderberg/skull-and-bones/newworldorder crowd.Obama; comes across as an efficient accountant. Reminds me of Tuvok the Vulcan on Star Trek Voyager. I have no doubt that his support of the status quo far outreaches any concerns he may have towards the sanctity of personal liberty, and just because he wrote a book about his dabbling with illegal substances at the edges of 'the Great Society' is pretty meaningless to me, except that he filled a space where a real writer might have fed his children. As far as I can tell, Obama is the epitomy of compromise. I don't see 'change' as being any where in his consciousness.Ron Paul is a Republican. Despite all the impressive people support, he is a republican. In my 30+ years of voting, I have never witnessed a Republican do anything but create war, escalate economic disparity between the rich and poor, and strip away what little personal freedoms and liberties our ancestors strove so mightily for in the past. Yes his words are what the trodden on, the disadvantaged, and the honest men and women want to hear, but dammit, words are cheap, especially politicians who can hire speech writers and thinktanks to be their conscience, and supply the public with what they want to hear.I am thoroughly disgusted with all of the candidates, the system that spawns them, and the lack of gumption on the part of the American voters - who just seem to lie down and take whatever is handed them, whether it is a war, tax breaks for the rich, laws that cater to the elite classes, and religion that conforms to the standards of the aforementioned groups.As far as 'truth' goes. I personally am glad that cat got pinned once it was out of the bag. What arrogance! [ Post Comment ] Comment #149 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 08:01:30 PT dongenero Thank you. It's very hard but I keep on trying to do the right thing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #148 posted by dongenero on February 20, 2008 at 07:52:01 PT FoM You're a sweetheart. You have far more patience than I.You also have very loyal support from 99.9% of the people for whom this site is a daily visit.We're with you and cannabisnews. [ Post Comment ] Comment #147 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 07:12:51 PT BGreen It's over now. Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #146 posted by BGreen on February 20, 2008 at 07:11:32 PT Ban him Nobody has the right to threaten and bully people, nor post anything they want on a private, moderated website.FoM, you don't deserve this. You don't have to allow yourself to be belittled by an obviously disturbed bully.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #145 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 07:10:21 PT Truth Goodbye. [ Post Comment ] Comment #144 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 07:08:36 PT doctor's visit I'm off for my Doctor appointment. I'm a newly diagnosed type ll diabetic. [ Post Comment ] Comment #143 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 07:07:39 PT Red, White, and Blue and Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #142 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 07:05:58 PT Truth I think you are really showing your true colors. This is my web site and it is kindly hosted by DrugSense. [ Post Comment ] Comment #141 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 07:04:10 PT I never said I have a high IQ. I know. [ Post Comment ] Comment #140 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 07:02:57 PT "my web site?" Is it yours?If so you better not violate my civil rights or you might find youself in a Mendocino County Court.Thank You,Mark Mason [ Post Comment ] Comment #139 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 07:02:32 PT Truth This is a web site where friends can talk and news is posted. I never said I have a high IQ. Is that a fault not to be smart? [ Post Comment ] Comment #138 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 07:00:48 PT poli one's policies is one's politics. Taking away one's right to speech is immoral and against one's civil rights. I'm doing a huge multi case lawsuit for internet liabel on another site. Belive me, I've been to court for this, I'm fairly educated on internet law. [ Post Comment ] Comment #137 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 06:56:05 PT Are we Are we here to discuss beef recall or the reform of cannabis prohibiton policies. Marth,If you do think a cannabis policy reform site is non political it would speak volumes about your IQ. [ Post Comment ] Comment #136 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 06:55:53 PT Truth I am not interested in shutting down my web site and I don't think others would want that either. [ Post Comment ] Comment #135 posted by BGreen on February 20, 2008 at 06:54:03 PT Just leave, Truth You don't know when to stop, do you?Nobody cares anymore.I'm not an idiot, but you're acting like one.Go bully people someplace else.You're acting like an FBI instigator. They're the shills planted in every peaceful movement in an attempt to stir up trouble.You fit the description like a glove.Goodbye!The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #134 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 06:53:42 PT Why? Why do you keep coming here if you don't like the way this web site is run? >To get my buddies out of cages. That's why I come here. Why do you run of the intellects?markmasonmortensun yahoo.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #133 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 06:51:37 PT I do know fom,count back on your post and see how many start with:I don't know...or I don't think...I post when I KNOW. Maybe it's time you turn over the reins to someone that actully cares about the folks in cages. [ Post Comment ] Comment #132 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 06:50:12 PT Truth Knock it off. Why do you keep coming here if you don't like the way this web site is run? Why don't you start your own web site and leave this one alone? [ Post Comment ] Comment #131 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 06:47:26 PT: flaming??? I've been promoting a viable candidate. I have't flamed anything other then my wood stove. [ Post Comment ] Comment #130 posted by FoM on February 20, 2008 at 06:40:41 PT Truth That's how much I know about the FBI or Feds. I will permanently ban you if you keep flaming this web site. Get over it or go somewhere else please. [ Post Comment ] Comment #129 posted by Truth on February 20, 2008 at 06:36:14 PT honestly "saying stupid $hit" they were questions, I wasn't "saying" If you think those are stupid shit questions you are being an idiot. "I would never work for the FBI. "That's not what I asked. I asked if you worked for the federal government. Maybe you haven't been asked before but I've never seen you behave in a manor that makes me wonder like you are now.It was the folks peering over my shoulder that thought that was the case. Why else would you block me from promoting the only man that will end the war on cannabis, I mean, come on. I've been nothing but honest in here and you want to boot me. Sheesh.I say: Vote for Doctor Ron Paul for the freedom we seek. [ Post Comment ] Comment #128 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on February 20, 2008 at 01:34:18 PT Truth Do you want the DEA raids on medical marijuana patients to go on another 4 years?!Do you want any chance for farmers to grow hemp to be delayed for at least another 4 years?Do you want states that would pass MMJ if the DEA were called off, not to do so?Do you want no chance at reforming the harsh federal penalties for marijuana?Since we can't free everyone, should we free no one?Do you want High Times to put a cartoon of Obama snorting coke on the cover?Do you want our troops in Iraq for a 100 years?Do you really think you can save the village by burning it? [ Post Comment ] Comment #127 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 20:58:08 PT Truth That has to be the most bizarre question I have ever been asked. I would never work for the FBI. My disposition alone wouldn't allow it. All I do is what I do here and as a volunteer. [ Post Comment ] Comment #126 posted by BGreen on February 19, 2008 at 20:44:28 PT That's uncalled for, Truth You've gone too far. You're not accomplishing anything here saying stupid $hit like that.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #125 posted by Truth on February 19, 2008 at 20:33:36 PT FoM Do you want Marc Emory and the hundreds of thousands of cannabis users to be caged?Do you work for the feds? [ Post Comment ] Comment #124 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 17:41:16 PT Hope Thank you. I need at least a 19 inch monitor anymore. My eyes just aren't as good as they used to be. We could use the tv as a monitor. That would look really weird I bet. LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #123 posted by Hope on February 19, 2008 at 17:09:30 PT Screen size I've got seventeen inches... normal screen here... and 17 "wide-screen" on the lap top... which means it's shorter up and down than this pc screen.I appreciate a big screen, which I used to have... eons ago, it seems now. I think it was a twenty one inch that was huge and set like a small Volkswagen on the desk. We put one of those radiation filter screens over it. This is a much, much thinner, lighter monitor... but it seems smaller screenwise, too.I can increase the text size... but it gets odd on a screen too small for it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #122 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 15:36:32 PT Paint with light Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #121 posted by Paint with light on February 19, 2008 at 13:33:05 PT My two cents I've been reading the posts here for several years.I can tend to be too enthusiastic and a little reactionary. I always hesitated to post because there would be times when I would disagree with FoM's replies to certain posts.I have to say though that after reading thousands of posts, I have ended up agreeing with FoM's moderating about 99% of the time. Sometimes it is hard to keep our eyes on the prize when they turn red with anger.She has kept this board on an even path. She can be firm but I believe it is necessary if we are to continue to gather respect for our opinions on what remains a controversial topic for a lot of people.We have the knowledge. We have the truth about MJ on our side.Let's continue to work together. This is a special time in the history of the movement. This is a special place to discuss the issue.It is like we have been climbing a mountain for years and we can finally see the summit.Thanks FoM, for being a good guide. [ Post Comment ] Comment #120 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 12:05:08 PT JoeCitizen I forgot to thank you. Thank You. [ Post Comment ] Comment #119 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 11:12:53 PT Hope I can't help but think that soon almost everyone will be able to use wireless connections. It seems to be a fast growing and people seem to like it. I can get up to an 800 something or other download speed and about 100 upload speed. [ Post Comment ] Comment #118 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 11:09:30 PT Hope How big is your screen? I have a 19 inch monitor and I didn't need to replace it. This computer has a strange dull tapping and I did some searching on google and it seems it could be my Hard Drive so before it crashes getting a new one was in order. I will probably have this one fixed. Then I will have two backup computers but my older one won't work with my aircard. This one will. I am very pleased with this aircard. It has had a few issues but all in all it has been reliable. [ Post Comment ] Comment #117 posted by Hope on February 19, 2008 at 11:05:56 PT Last time we got computers about the same time. Still got that same one. It's slow, it always has been, and I have a dial up connection, but it's still going. [ Post Comment ] Comment #116 posted by Hope on February 19, 2008 at 10:58:33 PT Change is hard to get used to... My husband got it for me. I mention something I want a hundred times and he ignores it... mention something else once and I've got it.It's for keeping up with C-News and e-mail, mostly, when I go visiting away from this desk. I use this one, mostly, except for once a week or so to keep the other one tuned up. [ Post Comment ] Comment #115 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 10:26:13 PT Hope I didn't know you got a new computer. We bought our last computers about at the same time I remember. I tried to keep the price to around $500. It's a Dell. I have almost always used Gateway so a Dell will be new to me. I like using a Desktop. I don't know why but I do. I guess I am not familiar with Laptops. [ Post Comment ] Comment #114 posted by Hope on February 19, 2008 at 10:19:35 PT oops two cents, too late. [ Post Comment ] Comment #113 posted by Hope on February 19, 2008 at 10:18:44 PT New Computer! Think about a portable computer. If I was down to one, I'd go for a large portable one. A large screen and a full size keyboard. Like the one I recently received. It's Vista, and strange... but it's easily portable. Not so totable as a smaller one... but portable.I don't know why they call them lap tops. I don't like the idea of a powerful computer in my lap. Seems kind of like sticking your head in the microwave... with it waving.Mines a Toshiba, and it's speakers are crummy, compared to my daughter-in-law's Dell. But there are small portable attachable speakers to rev things up when necessary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #112 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 10:15:03 PT afterburner and dongenero It's too late. I already order a new computer. Here's a link to the specs on the computer. I wanted to keep the price down so I went with this basic computer. I think Macs cost more money don't they. I have a wireless connection in my desktop and if we ever get a laptop I could use the card in it too.Afterburner, Thank You. Stick and I love you too.http://tinyurl.com/yqkl8f [ Post Comment ] Comment #111 posted by dongenero on February 19, 2008 at 09:59:12 PT FoM - look at wireless too With a laptop and wireless router, you can tend to cannabisnews from your porch or patio when the weather is nice, or from any room in the house you wish to be in. It is really nice to be untethered with your computer. [ Post Comment ] Comment #110 posted by dongenero on February 19, 2008 at 09:54:23 PT comments 108 and 109 FoM- My advice is to consider an Apple. Maybe their macbook laptop would be appropriate. For most people I've met, Macs have been a revelation.afterburner - Thanks for the Sweet Leaf reference. BIG Sabbath fan here! Iommi is God....(of heavy guitar) [ Post Comment ] Comment #109 posted by afterburner on February 19, 2008 at 09:35:13 PT soon the world will love you Sweet Leaf Sweet Leaf Lyrics by Black Sabbath http://www.actionext.com/names_b/black_sabbath_lyrics/sweet_leaf.htmlExcerpts:"You introduced me to my mind"..."My life was empty forever on a down Until you took me showed me around"..."You gave to me a new belief And soon the world will love you Sweet Leaf"...YouTube - Black Sabbath - Sweet Leaf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jBG9lki7MFoM #92 & 95: Yay! It was painful to read all this recent in-fighting again last night. Stand your ground. You have made this a thoughtful, powerful site for informing minds and facilitating change. We love you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #108 posted by FoM on February 19, 2008 at 08:38:54 PT dongenero Thank you. Right now I am trying to get things done that I must get done so I can think more clearly. I like missions. This web site is a mission to me too.My computer just seems really tired so I'm trying to figure out what to get to replace it. I am doing a lot of research. [ Post Comment ] Comment #107 posted by dongenero on February 19, 2008 at 08:08:51 PT comment #95 Go FoM!!!!!!!!You're on a mission. I'm glad to be able to log in here and go along for the ride.Keep doing what you're doing! You're making people notice. [ Post Comment ] Comment #106 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 21:08:06 PT Hope Uh huh. He sure was. ;) So is my little girl, Molly Jane.One last comment. Or two.There was a time when we had the Liberty to use Cannabis Hemp and Hashish. Let's restore those times, let's restore that Liberty. There was a time when we stood for the things our ancestors died for. Now we are dieing for the things that our ancestors would have never stood for. Yes, my memory is THAT long.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #105 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 20:58:55 PT Toker00. Elvis was a Dachshund? "He was only eight inches high, but nearly three feet long." [ Post Comment ] Comment #104 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 20:41:21 PT Sinsemilla Jones Thank you. I was raised in a way that I knew that rules are made for a purpose. I don't mind following rules. I think it's important to be able to do what we want as long as we aren't infringing on those around us. I also believe in respecting other people's things. Hate only creates destruction and life is too short to spend time hating everything. You miss out on good things that way and also make people miserable. [ Post Comment ] Comment #103 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on February 18, 2008 at 20:30:07 PT Unmoderated cannabis politics boards gone bad - http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/http://forums.marihemp.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5Y'all can post ANYTHING there.FoM has been actively moderating this board for years. I saw a long while back where one of those board members, a guy who copy and pastes lots of often unattributed "articles" about how liberals and Islam are out to destroy the country, complained that FoM didn't want him posting at CN.Thank You FoM!I think there is a difference between censorship and editing. Any writer will tell you, without editing, you end up with a big fucking mess. [ Post Comment ] Comment #102 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 20:04:24 PT Had Enough/Shadow Yeah. Like the way he just lay on the back porch with his nose in the wind in the final days and with the look of wisdom far exceeding mine. He had it figured out. The way he held his head so proud in spite of pain. The way he forgot his pain when unfamiliar noises came. On guard! Always. Always! He always barked and then looked at me. If I turned my head and held my hand a certain way, he would listen. Another way and he was AT THE DOOR! He was only eight inches high, but nearly three feet long. All love and loyalty.My eyes are leaking. I loved that hound dog. Damn.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #101 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 19:49:15 PT A friend of mine, that just happened to be a Wiemaraner dog, left a series of nose prints along the leading edge of my bedroom door, where he applied his nose to push the door open from the outside. I just couldn't remove the last collection for a very long time. Maybe three years. Yes. That's right. Three years.He was a sweet and good and noble and majestic animal. I loved him and he loved me. We, the whole family loved him... and he loved us.He was a fine creature. A gift from God.Nose prints and all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #100 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 19:47:33 PT Hope He gave me his phone number too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #99 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 19:43:15 PT Hope He was young and got it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #98 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 19:42:16 PT Hope Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #97 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 19:42:03 PT Comment 95 Very interesting. Very interesting. He didn't panic and hang up or anything... at least... that's good.:0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #96 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 19:40:22 PT FoM I'm amazed and awed at all you are trying to do. Truly.You go girl! [ Post Comment ] Comment #95 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 19:39:08 PT One More Thing The most important part of my conversation last night was I told him about us. I told him that I have been doing this web site for almost 10 years and gave him the url. I said I only post articles about Senator Obama and the marijuana issue as they surface not political articles. He seemed impressed. I said I know that he can't talk about this subject now but I expect him to when he is elected. I said we have waited this long so I think we can wait a little longer. He got what I was saying. [ Post Comment ] Comment #94 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 19:38:36 PT Our old dog friends and their love stays in our hearts forever... or at least this far into forever... it seems.Their names like a list of constant and loving companions that are such good souls... it's a crying shame to lose their presence. It's always with trepidation that we allow our lives to become involved with creatures who bless us, but aren't allowed to live the decades we'd like to keep them. There is a good side to that though... leaving them bereft if we died would and easily could be a very hard thing for them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 19:21:03 PT and... I’d would like to add…I shared almost 13 years with that dog…and I wouldn’t trade it for anything…priceless… [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 19:07:42 PT Hope We are flooded with news and spin this election and never in my life have I seen so much data being thrown at us. It is an amazing time for me. I never really cared since Bobby Kennedy was murdered. I voted and liked John Kerry but this election is different. It will soon be determined if it will be McCain vs. Hillary or McCain vs. Obama. Within a few weeks we should know or at least after Texas and Ohio. I was contacted on the phone last night by the head of the Obama campaign for a 4 county area including my county. He wants me to help. He asked me to help them find rental buildings for this short time. I'm trying. Soon we will know and our future will be clearer. [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 19:06:12 PT The ones we love Yeah Toker, I like that.Got me thinkin, along with a tune I just heard.I remember everything about the day Shadow went on to the Rainbow Bridge. The clouds, the winds, the sun, the time. I will probably never forget.I’m sure you have had a similar experience…to say the least…Well I just heard this tune and I was thinkin that this is the way I felt Shadow saw me. I bet Elvis felt the same about you…This goes out to the ones we love…Roy Orbison 'You Got It'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWlNpognYGYJust this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. – They’re waiting.http://rainbowsbridge.com/Poem.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:49:29 PT Tense times The entire nation high on political "cocaine like hopeful feelings"... poised for a tussle... aaargh.A weak bridge? A loose cannon. All of those and more.Reminds me of that time someone told on here about being at a party that everyone was doing cocaine... and the tension got thick and was escalating to the point that it looked like it was going to be the cocaine version of a alcoholic knock down drag out.. so to speak. [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:44:43 PT Comment 87 Oh yeah. After the election things will likely return to normal... or hopefully better.These are tense times.Like walking on broken glass until we get to the other side of this hell. It's dangerous, I'm telling you. Dangerous.It could be. [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:41:54 PT Is someone drunk? Probably. Somewhere.Drunk with pain? Drunk with grief? Drunk with disappointment? Drunk with...? [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 18:39:24 PT FoM Oh, I hear you, m'lady. I detest the Republican party. However, I do Love Liberty, no matter who speaks her sweet name. She was the fire of my youth and now is the passion of my years. I see her value more each day as I watch her slip away from all of us. I'm the old guard. Please have patience with me. The youngsters, until recently have made me very impatient. Now I see them taking the torch and understanding what even most of us don't quite get yet. They know. We have left a legacy with our Truthiness and Won't Back down determination. After this election is over, C-news will become the fire and the hearth once again. I know it will. I just hope I can survive the tongue holdings and the censurship express.Love. Peace.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:37:12 PT Mahatma Ghandi. I really admire the great Mahatma Ghandi.A peaceful man... murdered. It happens too often. [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:35:02 PT It should say "Nixed the halitosis" The joke that mentioned halitosis.That's just my opinion. That's not what it said. [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 18:30:01 PT Had Enough "Here I Am!" "Stuck in the middle with you" Loved it! Thank you.I did and do love me them pants, too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 18:26:41 PT Toker00 After all these years with this administration I cannot imagine anyone who would be proud to be a Republican. I would be licking my wounds and let others try to fix this mess and I sure wouldn't be pushy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 18:14:10 PT Censorship... GGGGGRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SLOBBER SLOBBER...GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RRRRRRUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!SLOBBBERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hope: Thanks for those hillarious jokes!Like that, Had enough? Isn't that more Dog-like? Hee Hee!!C'mon FoM. Republicans have come here and shouted much worse insults at you and shown far more REAL disrespect for you than any of us have. We're just the rebellious C-newsers. Wouldn't want harm to come to this site, private or not. Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 17:58:13 PT Monday Night Music - Presidents Day Monday Night Music - Presidents DayGordon Lightfoot – Edmond Fitzgerald - http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=iquCHSkmUekGordon Lightfoot – Sundown http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=vvYU7cw1HTk&feature=relatedRod Stewart Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood – People Get Ready - http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=l08_5TPzPToAl Stewart – Year of the Cat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7LR46zrQUVideo #75 – Glad you saw that. 303,464,649 (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html) Americans need to view that, and that Texas multi-step operation they have going on there. [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 17:17:24 PT comment 75 youtube video Had Enough Oh, Lord.As we used to say, "Heavy". Very heavy, indeed. [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 16:52:43 PT Sausage and the Texas 2/3/4/5-Step I’d rather butcher the meat and make the sausage myself rather than watch those Clowns and Jokers make a joke of our way of life. Those people need to be prosecuted. But somehow I think it will be swept under the rug.Thanks.The Ten Years After video might have a hard time streaming. I almost didn't post it, but the video part is as good as the music.************Stealers Wheel - Stuck In The Middle With Youhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMrm7ZQ0aMA [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:38:05 PT Had Enough Loading that video. Will take a few minutes.By the way, I'd like to say that I ran on to that video about the Texas legislature breaking their own rules on the Drug Policy Reform of Texas list. Thanks to Suzanne if she's perusing the comment section of C-News. [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:33:22 PT Disrespectful? A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other goes to a family in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, "They're twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal." [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:32:17 PT I know. I know. That was probably rude and insulting to an honorable man.Sorry. [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 16:31:48 PT I’d love to change the World Ten Years After (10 yrs after the Beatles)- I’d Love to Change the wolrd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7-aTt462M [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:31:07 PT Mahatma Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him. (This is bad, cause I bet his breath was sweet... with the scent of fruit and nuts)..... A super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:26:53 PT Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and says "Dam!". [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:25:02 PT I remember. Remember 1992, when the Clintons were the cool young people?Back when they played Fleetwood Mac 's "Don 't Stop " and other songs of our generation.Out on the sidewalk was someone else who remembered.It was another graying Madison icon, marijuana activist Ben Masel, who was sandwiched by Secret Service guys in their sharp suits. Masel was holding up a sign that said, "Where 's Jacki 's medicine? "The way Masel tells it, Jacki Rickert, who suffers from a painful connective tissue disorder, met Clinton on his 1992 bus trip through Wisconsin, and asked him to legalize marijuana for medical use. Clinton told her, in his husky drawl, I feel your pain.But when he got into office, the president who didn 't inhale didn 't legalize medical marijuana. Jacki didn 't get her medicine. The rest of us who voted for him didn 't get our health-care reform.How will the future play out for today 's Obama girls?I do know this: After two hours on the cold concrete steps of the Stock Pavilion, I felt my own pain.Where 's my medicine? [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:23:42 PT "Doc" "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'" "That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome." "Is it common?" Well, "It's Not Unusual." [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:03:24 PT A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked t hem to disperse. "But why," they asked, as they moved off. "Because",! he said, "I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer." [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 16:01:18 PT A dyslexic man walks into a bra. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 15:59:34 PT Tell me when you're laughing. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I'll serve you, but don't start anything." [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 15:57:22 PT A joke... picked up on the net Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?" [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 15:55:06 PT Texas... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0yPQwZJfWE&feature=related [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 15:37:52 PT Toker00 If this web site isn't private then I would have to shut it down with all the garbage that would flow. If this doesn't stop I will start banning people. This is not necessary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 15:33:00 PT Welcome Home Toker Cyber licks from Diamond…I’m glad your back.************With A Little Help From My Friends – Beatleshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOtWyjs8iUGeorge Harrisson, Eric Clapton, Ringo Starr and Elton Johnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLLHFSM7i8&feature=relatedJimmy does beatles tooSgt. Peppers / With A Little Help From My Friends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQWAkMARoVk&feature=related [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 15:24:13 PT Toker00 I do support Obama. I do not ask others to support Obama. I read news about Obama way more then news here these days but I don't bring what I know here to CNews. I guess I am not allowed to believe in someone and that seems terribly unfair. I barely post here anymore. [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 15:15:17 PT Thank you, Toker00. "Thank you Hope and I take your message to heart." [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 15:12:55 PT Ugly business to watch... sausage making and law making.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 15:12:35 PT Had Enough/FoM/Hope Thank you and Diamond. Great music and great links. It's what I was missing.FoM, you know good and well that I care very much about you and am forever indebted, like the rest of us, to you for all you have given us. I would never disrespect you. It's been a while since I posted and I just kept reading all these knock downs of Truth and the seeming uncaring about some of the rest of the absent Activists here. Almost all our answers to almost all our questions lies in the cesspool of Governmental Policies. Politics. Cannabis provides a wide area of conversational topics because it effects such a wide area of our domestic policies. I'm simply saying that the idea of returning to our background constitutional values as a Nation and as a People, is the best direction we could head, no matter WHO is pointing the way. I certainly wish a Democrat had had the...courage... to stand by the only power that keeps us from being a Democracy, the Constitution. No where is the word Democracy in any of the founding Documents that created this great Republic. Neither Politicians nor Government gave us the rights that are protected by the Constitution. GOD gave us those rights. IF WE CAN KEEP THEM. Now we are at a point where we will either keep our Constitutional Republic, or we will lose it. And it will depend on every American who understands that. This is not being Political. This is being aware and concerned that maybe not enough of us understand what "If we can keep 'er," really means. So we can talk politics when it comes to candidates that MAY win, but not about ones the MSM has predetermined for us that CAN'T win? Even when it is proven that MSM is lieing about RP vote totals? Even when he is one-up on every MAY win candidate when it comes to ending the War On Some Drugs? When it comes to getting government out of our lives by stopping the DEAth raids and releasing non-violent cannabis offenders? By chasing out of Washington the Drug Warriors who have influenced our entire society to hate anything not sanctioned by the State? Even if this person is the only one saying what needs to be said and doing what needs to be done to help our cause? The candidate that no one wants to hear from is right now arranging the necessary legislation in Washington to create a Freedom March on Washington. Are any of the other MAY win candidates standing up to big brother? Hell no. But this man is. If you are supporting Obama, and you are the moderator of Cannabis News and after anyone reads your posts about him and your support for him, would it be wrong to assume that C-news is a Pro-Obama site? If so, then it is you, also, who are making this a political site. I am not arguing. I am making observations that are relevant to the "rules" here at C-news.FoM, you know I want to post here. Now that I have gotten this issue pretty well out of my system, I can cool it, but when you start canning people for doing what you and the rest of us are doing, it gets really hard to just set back and say, oh well, it's FoM's living room. She gets to do what she tells us we can't do. Only it's not FoM's living room. This is an Internationally accessible web site visited by people of all walks of life and from all over the World. We can get on each other like family and the rest of the world will still be reading. While most readers are silent, some would appreciate non-censorship of personal opinions because of disagreement by the moderator/s. As long as there is no profanity, or tasteless use of it, subject matter should not be restricted.But then, that's just my Constitutionally protected God given right of expressing my honest opinion. No offense intended.Thank you Hope and I take your message to heart.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 14:46:00 PT BGreen That is a disclaimer for legal purposes but that isn't enough to protect organizations that are tax exempt. I wish I knew where to find the tax exempt info. I saw it in a couple e-mails a while ago but didn't save it. It was posted when people were trying to promote a person for president. That I remember. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by BGreen on February 18, 2008 at 14:32:09 PT I know you have your reasons, FoM This disclaimer from the bottom of each page says it all: "We do not own nor are responsible for visitor comments."However, you have the right to moderate this website as you choose, and any argument of our "right" to post something isn't worth the energy and gets us nowhere.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 14:04:04 PT I'm sorry, Toker00 "I lost my best friend on Dec. 28th. The whole is very deep and very wide."Strive to not be "overwhelmed by sorrow". Although it will and has to happen... rise up again. Your friend, at his best, would not want you to be overwhelmed by sorrow. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 12:46:42 PT Closer than some think... From Toker00 #45“Bush and all these other puppet politicians will do whatever the international bankers, globalists, Bilderbergers, Gates, and the other few Elites tell them to do. Hitler passed the exact same Fatherland legislation on his way to HIS attempt to establish the NWO. Our Liberties are being taken and no matter what site you are posting at, that is BIG news!"This is closer than what most people want to think or believe.A few places of interest.A word from John F. Kennedy - Secret Societies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghYpDx0f4What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique. Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted. The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website. More for those that care - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stmList of Bilderberg attendees - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendeesZeitgeist, The Movie - http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 12:43:00 PT The Kidnapping of Your Children By The State "The Kidnapping of Your Children By The State"Please take note.The State says, "We will take your children from you." [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 12:40:19 PT To note a truth... by repetion. "Parents (and their children) suffer the most from a marijuana arrest is it can often lead to the kidnapping of your children by the state." [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 12:39:16 PT I so agree, Celya. "Parents (and their children) suffer the most from a marijuana arrest is it can often lead to the kidnapping of your children by the state." [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 12:30:41 PT BGreen When it comes down to the bottom line we are not allowed to become a political web site. This web site and those hosted by DrugSense must follow the rules. They have a tax exempt status for drug policy issues not politics. As I have said I don't get money but DrugSense receives money and it could cause problems for them. When marijuana and Obama are in an article that is ok because it is about drug policy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by Hope on February 18, 2008 at 12:26:33 PT Stealth and Politics and other stuff... Stealth. Wariness. Care. Caution. You've got to watch where you put your public feet. People are laying explosive land mines of policy and culture, for some politicians more than others. Stealth. Wariness. Care. Caution. We all know about these necessary things.Yet... I keep thinking , "Don't get fooled again."I did vote for Clinton and sent him money. "Don't get fooled again."He really was a great disappointment to me.Duped. I was duped. I felt duped. Betrayed. Let down. Horrible. Angry. It's not a good feeling. Meanwhile, people are suffering and dying unnecessarily, and because of bad government policy. I'm taking this feeling of betrayal personally. Very personally.Time to pick another door with a carefully composed picture labeling it. What's behind the door this time? A tiger, or a gentleman, or a gentle lady? [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by BGreen on February 18, 2008 at 12:05:35 PT Everybody please chill! This is one subject where I disagree with FoM, but so what? My views haven't changed, but I pick my battles, and my battle isn't with FoM.My love of my CNews.com family is worth more than a fight we're all going to end up losing.At this point, we're not going to see Ron Paul as a candidate. What good does it do to scream about it and get pissed off?We can use Ron Paul to point out how popular even a Republican candidate can be when they advocate an end to the war on cannabis. That ought to be a slap in the face for any Democrat to wake the hell up and end this war on cannabis NOW.Anybody that's posted here for any amount of time and paid attention knows that some things really bother FoM, and all of us need to forget our own selfish motives and stop doing things that make our great friend (and mother hen, in the most loving way LOL) upset.I know none of us want to intentionally hurt those that we love, so try to understand what I'm saying, and let's check our pride at the door.I agree with you Truth and Toker00, so all you're doing is preaching to the choir. Is that worth upsetting FoM and alienating ourselves?I say "no."The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 11:03:11 PT Battle of Evermore The magic runes are writ in goldTo bring the balance back, bring it back.At last the sun is shining, the clouds of blue roll by,With flames from the dragon of darknessThe sunlight blinds his eyes.************Led Zeppelin – Battle of Evermorehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6pQrZPwoOULyricshttp://www.lyricsfreak.com/l/led+zeppelin/the+battle+of+evermore_20082162.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 10:34:16 PT Elvis… Toker00, I shed tears when I saw that.I’m really, really sad to hear that news.Believe me, I know how big that void that is there.I still miss Shadow very much. The more it hurts, the better connection there is. I sure do miss my baby girl, and I know you miss Elvis as much.At one time you stretched out that strong arm of yours to help prop me up, I would like to do the same for you.Here is a big cyber ‘hug, from the new pup Diamond, and me.I will scratch her behind the ear for you.Dogs – People should be more like them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by Had Enough on February 18, 2008 at 10:34:13 PT I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound… Everybody look what's going down..What a field day for the heat…Hey everybody look what’s going on HERE.Voicing opinions on a public forum doesn’t seem to me like forcing someone’s will on another.Discussion is healthy it seems to me.Look at what politics have done to the world. And now that virus is infiltrating here, when we all know not to let it get under our skin.Leo’s, Drug Czar people, and other prohibitionists are reading this site too. How can we win hearts and minds when healthy discussion turns into arguments and we appear as they do?Let us not bicker here amongst ourselves. Disagree, yes, however belittlement and copping attitudes will get us nowhere.Politics…Yeah, I have a feeling no matter who takes the throne at the White House, it still going to be the ‘battle of evermore’ in order to get these upside laws revised. But it will happen, it’s a matter of time. Even if George W. were to hold another term, our progress would still happen. This is something that will not be stopped, hindered maybe, but not stopped.I had faith in several past presidents that once they took office change will happen because of their leadership. I’m still waiting. Been waiting since Carter. Bush said it should be states rights, look what happened.Clinton didn’t inhale, look what happened.I will not believe or put blind faith behind someone, give them a chance maybe, but blind faith NO, especially a politician. Actions speak volumes, words from these people are appeasement at best. What is it we hear, and what is it we see? In the end it seems they all bow to the status quo, or make ‘adjustments’. So I will not hold my breath and wait for them to come to the rescue. They have to be shamed into it.Battle lines are being drawn. In the meantime let’s not let the status quo of politics divide us here.************What's that sound – Buffalo Springfeildhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlssjxbrATI [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by dongenero on February 18, 2008 at 09:43:47 PT Toker, lighten up ....dude! I'm being sarcastic in my admission of us all being Nazis! And no, I'm not a Nazi and will in no way support a "nazi" government. Get a grip man.Plus, we are not idiots here. I know all too well about our loss of freedoms and rights. Especially under this administration and the influence of PNAC and the neocons. Yes, many of their tactics are just as the Nazi party used to garner support. Yes, PNAC plans a New World Order. Yes, shame on anyone who voted this bunch into office, twice!Yes, we understand this. No, you and Ron Paul are not the only ones in the world with insight to the attack on our freedoms.Your fanaticism is counter productive. You don't convince people by harassing , lecturing down to and insulting them.I believe you ultimately do Ron Paul's campaign a disservice with your histrionics.No need to respond to me any further, thanks. [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 09:13:55 PT donegenero See? That's my whole point. There is a Nazification of America going on right now, in which some of you are participating in, and totally oblivious to. READ YOUR HISTORY. Bush and all these other puppet politicians will do whatever the international bankers, globalists, Bilderbergers, Gates, and the other few Elites tell them to do. Hitler passed the exact same Fatherland legislation on his way to HIS attempt to establish the NWO. Our Liberties are being taken and no matter what site you are posting at, that is BIG news! There is nothing I can say or do to prevent any of you from being suckered in again to a political "system" that is a no-win for the People and a win-win for those connected to it.Just for some who want to know. We had a town meeting here the other night to discuss the Trans-Texas Corridor that will run just left of Galveston and Houston. The people here put up a resistance that any who know what that means would be proud of. I hope when the New World Order comes to your town, politically correct or not, I hope you RESIST.Had Enough, I lost my best friend on Dec. 28th. The whole is very deep and very wide. Thanks for all the scratches behind the ear for him, bro. Thank you.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by JoeCitizen on February 18, 2008 at 08:30:18 PT Please show respect for FoM Truth, Toker, and other Ron Paulites/Libertarians:As a former Libertarian, I know that nobody gets more full of themselves than a Libertarian preaching about his or her rights.Yes, you have free speech. You make speak freely in your homes, and in public streets and commons.You may NOT come into my house and try to practice free speech. You may not preach at me, rant at me, or prattle on about the beliefs you so fervently want me to share. If you do, you'll find yourself ejected, probably rudely.This page belongs to FoM, it's her space. Her house, if you will. Her "landlord" is DrugSense, and she is a respectful tenant.If someone invites you into their place, you abide by their rules. You don't tell them their rules don't make sense to you, or that they're applying them inconsistently, and hence you can do whatever the hell you want. You either follow their rules, or you LEAVE.I would think that libertarians, of all people, would respect someone else's property. They wouldn't glom on to it, try to claim some right of use or ownership, just because the real owner is nice enough to share with everyone. That's just the sort of thing that libertarians are always accusing liberals of, funny enough.If you want to say whatever you want, however you want, whenever you want...START YOUR OWN WEBPAGE. It's cheap and easy. If you do a good job, you'll find your own audience and start your own group conversation.If not, you can always come back here, if you'll just PLAY BY THE RULES.Hear endeth my rant.Joe Citizen [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by dongenero on February 18, 2008 at 08:04:37 PT Toker Good to hear you still love everyone at CNews, despite the fact that we are nazis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 08:01:01 PT dongenero It makes perfect sense to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by dongenero on February 18, 2008 at 07:47:38 PT political campaigns I think any candidate that, at this point in the election, say they will immediately make currently prohibited drugs immediately legal , will have no chance whatsoever of being elected.Regardless of the fact that Ron Paul has whipped a minority group of supporters into action over these positions, in the bigger picture of a nationwide election, the opposition would crank up the 30 sec attack ads and eat that candidate alive.I think it would be political suicide for Obama or any other candidate to stand up at this time and say, "Yea folks, I'm going to legalize pot when you elect me. It will not get that candidate elected. The prohibitionists, intolerant, holy rolling, fear of the bogeyman citizens would come out of the wood work to 'protect the fabric of our society".I think the way for legalization or decriminalization to happen is to get a progressive legislature in place, a progressive President in place and then when they have garnered public support with all of the good things they do over the course of their term bring out drug law reform.Not to diminish the importance of fixing this tremendous problem (WOD) but, I do not believe hanging a Presidential campaign on it is going to win an election in this country.I think we need to put someone in office with the right ideals and philosophies and then work them on the issue when they do not have to defend their job interview (campaign) against the opposing party(who happen to largely be rapid prohibitionists.)sorry to ramble, hope this makes sense. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 05:17:44 PT Toker00 Those videos are mentioned in the article and it's ok if you don't want to post here anymore. When things change that doesn't mean they are bad. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by FoM on February 18, 2008 at 05:15:41 PT Sinsemilla Jones Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by Toker00 on February 18, 2008 at 03:38:49 PT Truth You are right, Truth. And it happens all the time. Many of us don't post here any more because we support Ron Paul, who just happens to be a Republican, a REAL Republican and since Bush has done such damage to the party, ALL Republicans are demonized here at C-News. Just like all the 9-11 Truthers. There were powerful Truths being brought here and shared among those who claimed to be Truth seekers in ALL things, not just Cannabis. Now, only hand picked Truth by FoM and a couple others are allowed. There is no doubt in my mind C-News is sinking in the statistics. A site that was the first place I came in the morning and the last place I came at night. Why? Because we were allowed to speak the Whole Truth. Now, only certain Truths can be spoken here, and only if they are approved by FoM. You see FoM, this site was much more than just a Cannabis site. It was a CANNABIST'S site. People who love Cannabis also love the Truth in all things, normally. You have been doing this site for ten years and only now, when you have become somewhat involved and somewhat educated about politics, do you come up with this danger to the non-profit org. that runs it. So now only Cannabis and Obama Truth are allowed? If you would only educate yourself about the Constitution and what it actually says and stands for, you would also allow ALL other Truths to be spoken here, whether you understand them, or not.What, exactly, since this is an example of sticking to the CAUSE, did the two videos you posted about obama and yes we can have to do with Cannabis? Did I miss a verse or a statement obout Cannabis Liberation? Sorry if I did.Ron Paul, and this is NOT a political statement but a Truth statement, is the ONLY "politician" who is speaking TRUTH. The only issue you seem to have, FoM, against him is his stand on abortion. Killing is wrong, no matter when it happens. Killing for selfish reasons is the most dreadful killing. It's no different than killing for Property. Abortion out of convenience is not only selfish, it is wrong. Abortion to save a Mother or child's life in danger is not. Abortion to expel a rape pregnancy is not. Everyone has their reason to support or oppose abortion and they are entitled to it. If you support Liberty for ALL, if you support what all of our vets have given their lives to defend, if you want the Crooks out of Washington and the government out of your private lives, if you want to be Proud to be an American, if you want to heal the damage done instead of continuing to selfishly Kill for Empire, then there is only ONE vote that will get it. That is a vote for Liberty and a vote for Ron Paul. It is sad to see some of you C-Newsers sounding like Good Germans. It really is.Peace and I still Love you all,Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on February 18, 2008 at 03:34:13 PT I noticed... you posted the same message in another thread, Truth.http://cannabisnews.com/news/23/thread23693.shtmlNO spammingandWe reserve the right to revoke registrations and/or remove any of message for any reason!are among the things you agreed to for the privilege of posting on this site.Freedom of speech doesn't mean the right to come into someone else's home or business and constantly scream "Ron Paul!" at everybody there.I like Ron Paul. I have voted Libertarian for President several times in my life. I did so in 2004, in fact. Michael Badnarik was an even better candidate than Ron Paul. Badnarik understood all the cannabis issues better than any candidate I've ever heard, and he would have not only legalized cannabis and ended the war in Iraq, but was pro choice to boot. He got NO media coverage and only 1% of the vote. So, I understand your frustration.But FoM and this board are not the enemy!I think it's important not to let emotion make you lose perspective. You end up being counterproductive to your cause. You can even forget who your friends are.I, for one, thank FoM for her moderation here, and am glad that folks don't feel free to copy and paste right wing propaganda, that has nothing to do with cannabis and is put out by people who actually support prohibition, as is allowed in the politics section of some other cannabis boards.FoM talked about Obama. The article this is posted on talked about Obama. Get a grip.It's one thing to believe in the Ron Paul dream, it's another to insist on the Ron Paul fantasy. Ron Paul has been able to spread libertarian ideas better that the Libertarian Party itself, but 4 or 5% still aint a majority. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 22:50:57 PT: did you notice that you did what you told me I couldn't do? It's ok to talk obama but I can't mention the name of the man that will END the war on drugs.The WOD is America's longest running war ever.The WOD is America's costlyist war ever.and exept for the Civil War it is America's deadliest war.Dr. Ron Paul will end it in an istant on his order and the shit is over. Sorry if you don't like the TRUTH but that's the way it is.It's called freedom.I will not apologize for the right, what is peaceful and what is truthful.Don't you remember your junior high civics lesson.This is all about the constitution and nothing else.The right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.Thanks,Mark [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 20:18:40 PT Celaya I didn't really understand the transcript but I did get a little out of it. I believe that people aren't right or left but a little of both so fighting over ideologies seems such a waste to me. When I think of what our country needs it needs less fighting and name calling and more compassion and acceptance. I believe we are our brother's keeper. I don't believe in survival of the fitest. In the animal kindom survival of the fitest is how it is but we are human beings with a soul or spirit or whatever we call it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by Celaya on February 17, 2008 at 19:47:13 PT Be aware Education is, indeed, a big part of the problem. Check out "The Age Of American Unreason." (Video, transcript)http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02152008/watch2.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 17:58:36 PT Celaya I don't know very much about history but I do remember one time as clear as day when the Nun that was teaching us said that we are doing fine in America but be careful and be aware. The government should stay out of schools so they don't take on the role of parenting that is a gift from God. My school wasn't government funded. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by Celaya on February 17, 2008 at 17:41:36 PT FoM I'm not sure to what degree children were seperated from parents in Nazi Germany. But I imagine the effects on those openly opposed to the Nazis were similar.Here, the justification for kidnapping the children of marijuana consumers is the adult "addiction" to the evil, "illegal drug" makes the parent unfit.Just another horror inflicted by marijuana prohibition. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 17:26:43 PT Celaya I agree with you. Fear is a driving factor. Didn't they separate the children from the parents and put the government above the family in Nazi Germany? It seems so familiar. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by Celaya on February 17, 2008 at 17:11:23 PT FoM Yes. I have hope for Obama as well, though it may not be supported by the facts. I'm sure much of the problem is that he is a politician. He likely feels supporting ending marijuana prohibition would make him vulnerable and cost him too much support. The big question is how much will political considerations influence him AFTER being elected.I agree that being an open supporter of drug law change can be harder for people with children, but for different reasons. The example of alcohol regulation is a good one. Refraining from throwing adult consumers of alcohol in prison is not an encouragement for children to drink alcohol. Children understand very well that many behaviors are only for adults. Drinking, driving, voting, and yes, consuming marijuana.The greatest pressure on parents for not being open about supporting marijuana reform is when they are currently marijuana consumers. That's because openly supporting marijuana reform makes you an instant target by law enforcement. Parents (and their children) suffer the most from a marijuana arrest is it can often lead to the kidnapping of your children by the state. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 17:00:36 PT dongenero Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 16:59:23 PT OT: They Need To Police Our Food Supply For Safety Biggest US Beef Recall EverFebruary 17, 2008 http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/dishing/2008/02/biggest_us_beef.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 16:44:31 PT Celaya I understand. The way I look at people in general would take in Obama as well. His honesty about his drug use in his book says a lot to me. Doing drugs then quitting drugs and then demonizing drugs is wrong and doesn't show me a person with character. Obama said something about leveling out his heart. I'm not good at exact words because I didn't read his books yet. When people have children it can be harder to be for drug law change. No one wants to give a child an excuse to do what mommy or daddy did but honesty is a good beginning. It's good for families and for society. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Celaya on February 17, 2008 at 16:25:32 PT FoM I was not commenting on anyone's voting styles but mine.To me, Obama is the lesser of the evils of the front-running candidates. I say he is the lesser of the evils because he stated he would not have the Justice Department prosecute medical marijuana users. ( http://www.norml.com/index.cfm?Group_ID=7462 ) But that's as far as it goes. He has not openly supported ending marijuana prohibition. So, it seems he's okay with continuing to arrest 800,000 innocent Americans every year. Still, his position is not as bad as the rest of the candidates. That is why, to me, he is the lesser of the evils. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by dongenero on February 17, 2008 at 14:37:53 PT Truth, you should apologize profusely Don't treat FoM in such a disrespectful manner.She moderates this site in a dedicated and professional way and has done a tremendous amount of good for our cause. Your comments display a lack of respect what she has done here with cannabisnews.There are plenty of places for you to exercise your free speech to post things that FoM does not want posted here. These are not difficult guidelines to abide by. Everyone here knows who your choice for President is. Do you really think harassment is going to make someone change their mind in your favor? You might find that changing your approach will sometimes improve your degree of success and the persuasiveness of your positions. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 14:27:45 PT: Can't We All Just Get-A-Bong and pass it to me :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 13:35:24 PT Truth Sorry you don't care. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 13:32:33 PT and also Wasn't Clinton in the article,andWhat was choice C? [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 13:31:27 PT but still I have freedom of speech. If you don't believe me please read the constitution and the Bill of Rights.I don't need anyone's permission to discuss what I want to discuss. This is my constitutional right. Sorry if you don't like it but it is the Rule of Law.Period. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 13:07:11 PT Truth I don't post articles about Obama that are not related in someway to our topic. I don't ask people to vote for him or ask who they want to vote for. People have volunteered that information but I never ask. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 13:04:32 PT Truth I don't get any money but DrugSense does. You should contact Matt Elrod to ask him what is allowed and what isn't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 12:58:57 PT well I call lot's of ladies sweetheart, sorry if it ofended you..I've studied internet law. This sight and it's employee's is in no way responsible for what us posters post up.If you were truly worried about your tax position you wouldn't be supporting MR. O the way you do on this site. Remember, you represent the site so you could have an effect on tax status. This is the truth and I want my freedom back. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 12:50:25 PT Truth I am only my husband's sweetheart. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 12:49:24 PT Truth We can say who will like but we can't get political or DrugSense could get in trouble with it's tax exempt status. I thought you understand that when I said it before. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 12:47:24 PT politics Martha, I'm surprised. I watch you support Obama over and over and If I mention Dr. Paul you tell me to can it.Where is the freedom?Where is the Love?My mom raised me to shut up on demand but I've got something to say. If you want to end the war on cannabis there is only one Doctor to do it and that is Dr. Ron PaulHe'll end the war in a heartbeat and he will immediatly let my friend Marc Emery out of his cage.Think FREEDOM Sweetheart.Love,Me [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 12:43:13 PT Truth I don't want to start talking about politics. We all know who we like. This article is about Marijuana, Ben Masel, Jackie Rickert, Clinton and Obama. Ron Paul isn't in this article. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 12:38:42 PT: question ??? Here's my question:If you voted today, and the choices were: A B & CWho would you vote for?A. John McCainB. Barack Obama and who ever he wants.C. Dr. Ron Paul, with Hillary and/or William Clinton as equal cocouncil for VP. (on the newly formed Constitution Ticket) [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 12:19:22 PT Celaya I am not voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for who I like best. If he wins the nomination and Senator Clinton isn't trying to trip him up he will probably be more open. Maybe not but maybe. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by Celaya on February 17, 2008 at 12:14:12 PT The Lesser.... ... Of the Evils.I voted for Obama in the primary, and probably will for president. But I wish the marijuana reform movement had enough unity and strength to demand a committment from him on reform. After all, the latest polls show almost 100 million Americans have smoked pot. Add those who would not incriminate themselves and what have you got? [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 09:27:49 PT: I'll admit I'm a dreamer lol I'm sure she'll be signed by some big modeling agency after all her publicity. Which leaves me with zero chance lol.Oh well, plenty of fish in the sea :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 09:10:11 PT fight_4_freedom You wish it was for you. Too much! I appreciate your honesty! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 09:08:53 PT: Related Montana Article Pot bust blasted as persecution of dying man By NICK GEVOCK - Montana Standard - 02/17/08DILLON — The large-scale marijuana bust that law officers here touted as a major success this month was instead the persecution of a terminally ill man who needed the drug to help ease his suffering, a pro-medical marijuana group said Friday. complete article [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 08:53:06 PT: He really has a way of moving people Whenever he's speaking, I can't seem to turn off the tv. It's like he's reviving the people back to life. And that video definitely got a lot of views, so yes it did make an impact.Personally, I wish that girl was singing "I'm in Love with Adam" (me) lol. [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 08:44:44 PT fight_4_freedom I'm glad you see why I like Obama. We just watched Meet The Press. I don't watch Meet The Press but I did and I really liked it today. There is something happening and it is very exciting. It's like our country's soul is involved this time.About Obama Girl. She is cute. She did do it for herself but it made an impact and was probably the first video that seemed to make politics cool. That's why I appreciate it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 07:54:06 PT: Yes We Can.....Change These Laws...Yes We Can Thanks for the videos. I'm starting to really see why you like him so much FoM. He does give me hope. And for that Obama girl, that's funny. I watched a segment on CNN about her and that video. She just wanted attention basically. This girl didn't even make it to vote for Obama after all this lol. And she wasn't the one singing that, she had some professional do it.But it's still funny. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by fight_4_freedom on February 17, 2008 at 07:43:45 PT: Missoulian News Group terms pot bust persecution of terminally ill man Posted on Feb. 17 By NICK GEVOCK of the Montana Standard DILLON - The large-scale marijuana bust that law officers here touted as a major success this month was instead the persecution of a terminally ill man who needed the drug to help ease his suffering, a pro-medical marijuana group said Friday.Patients and Families United, based in Helena, blasted the bust and said it would not stand up in court thanks to Montana’s Medical Marijuana Law passed three years ago. And they criticized law officers for making a terminally ill man’s last days miserable because of the worry that he would end up in prison.“It amounts to persecution of somebody who’s already so overburdened with a medical condition that no one should have,” said Tom Daubert, founder and director of PFU. “That’s the purpose of our law, to have some relief for somebody who wants to be left alone.”Daubert said his group will step up to help with the legal defense for the man, whose name has not been released by officials.Law officers from Beaverhead County and the Southwest Montana Drug Task Force last week were trumpeting the seizure of 96 marijuana plants from a mobile home north of Dillon. They said the sophisticated growing operation was meant to keep a steady supply of marijuana coming, with plants at all stages of development. complete article [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by Truth on February 17, 2008 at 07:05:51 PT: Obama Great man, he has a lot to contribute to America. After another session or two of congress and he will be ready for a higher position. Right now, because of the seriousness of our world's problems we need immediate drastric change. the only Constitutionist that can do this is Dr. Ronald Paul.President Paul will do the following:and this is from Bobby: Fuckin Duh! Wake up people a modern day founding father is before us. And that man is Ron Paul. Gold Standard Stop the NAU End the IRS End the Income Tax Get us out of the UN and the WTO and the WorldBank and IMF Protect our Constitution. Protect the Life of the Unborn! Protect Liberty. End Our Empire! Bring our tropps home from everywhere! Defend our Country! Strong national Defense. Close the Borders! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Is there any other choice? FUCK NO! www.ronpaul2008.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 06:39:05 PT Videos Mentioned in Article Yes We Canhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY***Obama Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by FoM on February 17, 2008 at 06:14:13 PT Clintons I didn't vote for Bill Clinton because I felt he was a want to be Republican. He never seemed honest to me and it started with I didn't inhale. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment