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U.S. Marijuana Even Stronger Than Before: Report
Posted by CN Staff on April 25, 2007 at 11:48:17 PT
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor
Source: Reuters 
Washington, DC -- The marijuana being sold across the United States is stronger than ever, which could explain a growing number of medical emergencies that involve the drug, government drug experts on Wednesday.Analysis of seized samples of marijuana and hashish showed that more of the cannabis on the market is of the strongest grade, the White House and National Institute for Drug Abuse said.
They cited data from the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project showing the average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, in the products rose from 7 percent in 2003 to 8.5 percent in 2006.The level had risen steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988.National Institute on Drug Abuse Director Dr. Nora Volkow fears the problem is not being taken seriously because many adults remember the marijuana of their youth as harmless."It's really not the same type of marijuana," Volkow said in a telephone interview."This could explain why there has been an increase in the number of medical emergencies involving marijuana."The pharmacy department at Mississippi has compiled data on 59,369 samples of cannabis, 1,225 hashish samples, and 443 hash oil samples confiscated since 1975. "The highest concentration of (THC) found in a cannabis (marijuana) sample is 33.12 percent from Oregon State Police," the report reads. 'This is Pot 2.0' Hashish and hash oil concentrations are far higher, as they consist of processed plant product."Researchers and treatment experts have argued for some time that today's more powerful marijuana has more harmful effects on users. This report underscores that we are no longer talking about the drug of the 1960s and 1970s -- this is Pot 2.0," John Walters, director of National Drug Control Policy, said in a statement.Volkow said demand has driven growers to cultivate the stronger stuff. "It is the market," she said. "Like in the market you favor the best tomatoes. When people buy marijuana, they don't want a weak cigarette."Volkow's institute has been studying the effects of cannabis, whose active ingredients are very similar to important brain chemicals called endogenous cannabinoids."It clearly is addictive," she said.If children and adolescents use marijuana, it could affect their still-developing brains, she said.The report said more than 60 percent of teens receiving treatment for drug abuse or dependence report marijuana as their primary drug of abuse."Although the overall number of young people using marijuana has declined in recent years, there is still reason for great concern, particularly since roughly 60 percent of first-time marijuana users are under 18 years old," Volkow said.According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health 4.1 million Americans, or 1.7 percent of the population, report they use marijuana.Source: Reuters (Wire)Author: Maggie Fox, Health and Science EditorPublished: April 25, 2007 Copyright: 2007 Reuters LimitedCannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml
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Comment #92 posted by FoM on April 27, 2007 at 12:27:26 PT
Final Comment
It's over now. Sorry for the problems everyone. 
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Comment #91 posted by whig on April 27, 2007 at 12:24:41 PT
Um...
Publicbulldog wrote:
her death is the only death caused by marijuana on the books.
I wrote:
There is no such death caused by marijuana on the books.
PBD wrote:
The prohibitionist like to say she died from pot..But I know better.
Case closed.
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Comment #90 posted by publicbulldog on April 27, 2007 at 12:21:08 PT:
Good post whig
I know her death was not caused by pot.
The prohibitionist like to say she died from pot..But I know better.
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Comment #89 posted by whig on April 27, 2007 at 12:17:36 PT
Fred Gardner
http://www.counterpunch.org/gardner03122005.html
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Comment #88 posted by whig on April 27, 2007 at 12:16:06 PT
"the only death caused by marijuana on the books&q
There is no such death caused by marijuana on the books.
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Comment #87 posted by FoM on April 27, 2007 at 12:11:29 PT
publicbulldog 
I guess you don't care what I've asked so what more can I do? Sorry you feel that way.
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Comment #86 posted by publicbulldog on April 27, 2007 at 12:07:48 PT:
Sister Jane Wierick
Perhaps her poisoning was unintentional.
But it was a poisoning none the less.
her death is the only death caused by marijuana on the books.
It is in her memory as a former board member of the organization that I belong to,that I bring up these points.Funny how FOM has not acknowledged that I was called a liar,proved I was not lying,and still wants to ban me.It seems as if FOM is upset that I provided the proof that I was not lying,and that he,or she was content with me being labeled a liar,prosecutor,narc.
If I am being called a Narc,liar,prosecutor,what do you expect me to do besides defend myself FOM.
If this blog is set up as a one way street for a bunch of old buddies, go ahead and ban me,I am not out anything.
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Comment #85 posted by museman on April 27, 2007 at 10:48:21 PT
whig
Yes, it makes no sense that anyone other than someone trying to discredit, or undermine the process would do something like that. It is true however that because of the money aspect, a lot of 'modern' growers use various chemicals to increase yield. My experience with them is just 'bunk' herb. If it tastes ok, doesn't burn weird, and works without some kind of headache reaction, then the odds are in favor of 'good.'Anyone in the market of selling or distributing herb on a regular basis, particularly a non-black-market distribution like medical dispensaries, is not going to jeopardize their jobs or their clients with bunk herb. Maybe once or twice it might get by their screens, but I doubt it.
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Comment #84 posted by whig on April 27, 2007 at 10:36:28 PT
museman
Obviously I don't have any way of testing my medicine to see how well it has been cared for and grown. I can say that the smell is good, the color is good, the effect is good, and the dispensaries have clearly labeled their products as organic.Also, they are caring, compassionate places where I get my medicine. They let patients come and stay, to drink coffee or in some locations to medicate directly. They rely upon the good will and support of the patient community.I disbelieve they would use harmful chemicals.
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Comment #83 posted by museman on April 27, 2007 at 10:18:54 PT
my 2 cents
"If those decisons come down in my favor,I will never let you and whig live them down."Sounds like a clear threat to me. A whole lot of ego mixed with just as many words. What's the point? I read the entire thread, and other than the fact that accusations have been made about issues which seem to have little impact towards implementing an end to cannabis prohibition -which due to the lack of good grammatical syntax in the writing style of publicbulldog (not a sin, just difficult to understand) is certainly not clear to me, I just read 'personal problem.'The need to have credit for an idea is not new to me, but fighting for notoriety just doesn't seem to fit the consensus we all have here about the nature of compassion, forgiveness, and respect, -that is what the prohibs have none of. When you make a threat, you are desperate. Desperation serves no good whatsoever. And in making such threats, you reveal the dark place in your heart for the entire world to see. Knowing whether or not your medicine is contaminated, is important information, and making money is the prime motivator for just about any american endeavor, but focussing on an issue which basicly gives the opposition any just cause whatsoever to continue their fascist regiment can only be viewed with mistrust and suspicion.As anyone who has read my posts can attest, venting anger and frustration at the many wrongs committed against us in the names of the various institutions in control of our lives, is a good and helpful thing. However, accusation of persons without substantial, immovable fact and truth to back it up is tantamount to the same BS that we are struggling to overcome.True colors, or just cultural miscommunication? Threats and accusations belong to the repugs, roman xtians, and in general reside within the hearts and minds of limited intellect. While it is true that 'those of us who are strong must bear the inequities of the weak', it is also true that those who 'drag ass' intentionally for some kind of negative attention-getting, are left behind to be consumed in the fire of their own dross, or in other words left to drown in their own excrement. Pity the fool
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Comment #82 posted by FoM on April 27, 2007 at 09:20:47 PT
publicbulldog
How about taking this discussion to another forum. The majority of the states don't have even tolerable levels of acceptance of cannabis. This is talk about growing and growing isn't a topic for a reform only web site. It isn't legal so no more talk. I can ban you so please don't push me. I am patient but my patience has its limits.
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Comment #81 posted by publicbulldog on April 27, 2007 at 09:00:54 PT:
FOM
UNDERSTOODI only posted that information because I was called a liar.
It seems that when you "fight fair"... and prove you are not lying that it is not tolerated.
Whig was so sure that was a lie.
Even B Green was sure what I said was a lie.
I have proven that it was spiteful contrarian diatribe.
Sorry if in the course of my defense,I somehow put cannabis news in a bad situation.
Whig still seems unwilling to eat his crow this morning.
Perhaps he is still upset about my comments about Steve Sarich.
Tell you what whig why dont you take credit for my study too.
After all, you need not read it, have a copy,OR AGREE WITH WHAT IS IN IT,all you need to do is say the words WE.
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Comment #80 posted by FoM on April 27, 2007 at 06:17:54 PT
Just a Comment
I don't want this kind of information on CNews. It means nothing to me or to many people here. I want to help change the laws that's all. This could bring CNews trouble and I won't tolerate it. I expect this will be the last time I need to mention this. This isn't a web site that is concerned with things like this. I don't go to any other web sites so none of it makes any sense to me. 
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Comment #79 posted by RevRayGreen on April 27, 2007 at 03:52:41 PT
publicbulldog
yes I did, notice it's one of the most viewed topics in that forum.
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Comment #78 posted by whig on April 27, 2007 at 01:02:27 PT
Gee
A link to a cache of a proxy of an article which doesn't exist on the AMMA website.
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Comment #77 posted by publicbulldog on April 27, 2007 at 00:20:36 PT:
well that wraps er all up
Looks like it wasn't propaganda after all medical marijuana fans.just spiteful contrarian diatribe.
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Comment #76 posted by publicbulldog on April 27, 2007 at 00:18:27 PT:
 3 references to the AMMA study
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:sg4gZyD5wgAJ:www.o94.net/index.php%3Fq%3DaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbWVyaWNhbm1hcmlqdWFuYS5vcmcv+malathion+,avid+dispensaries&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=ushttp://tagsdir.org/directory/category/medical/page_a~7.phphttp://martijnfransen5874.hyves.nl/index.php?l3=bl&l4=it&blogitem_id=1736774&blogitem_secret=U6wpThe American Medical 
Marijuana Association
HOME | AWARDS | GROW VIDEOS | SEEDS | JOIN  | CARTOONS | ADVISORS | CONTACT 
 What Dispensary has the best Meds? The American Medical Marijuana Association is inviting California Dispensaries to submit samples of their best herb for testing and evaluation. click for moreIs Your Dispensary
Poisoning You? WARNING: The American Medical Marijuana Association is concerned that some cannabis dispensaries may be selling cannabis that may be contaminated with pesticides. A recent study done by AMMA suggests that contaminated cannabis is being sold by California dispensaries, possibly on a fairly widespread basis. Two of the most common pesticides being used are Malathion and Avid. Some may complain that AMMA is overreacting by issuing this warning, but the tragic story of recently deceased Jane Wierick should serve as a sober message to all.In order to combat this disturbing trend, AMMA is inviting California dispensaries to submit samples of their 'Best Medicine' for testing and evaluation.
 
In the meantime, we suggest patients do three things to protect themselves from contaminated cannabis. --First, look at your herb under a magnifying glass. If you see dead bugs, your herb is probably contaminated with pesticide(s). 
 
--Second, look at the color of your ash. Cannabis ash that is black or dark gray may be contaminated and probably is of a grade that should not be consumed. Medical grade cannabis should always leave a white or light gray ash. (make sure your herb is completely dried before toking and judging the ash)--Third, listen to how your herb burns. If you hear a popping or crackling sound, it indicates that something has contaminated the herb enough to disrupt the normally quiet burning process. If you are a California Dispensary, operating within the legal guidelines of SB 420, then please contact AMMA today about how you can have your herb tested and receive a "Best Medicine" Award from AMMA. 
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Comment #75 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:49:18 PT:
did we get banned
RevGreen
BANNEDJoined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 163 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:25 am  Post subject: Des Moines vs Denver N.I.C.E.R.DSM?  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
A N.I.C.E.R. choice needs to be in place as well. (N.eccesary I.nitiative.C.oncerningE.njoyableR.ecreation), just like Denver did. Back in the late 80’s, 
early 90’s I went to Vegas a time or 10. Seeing slot’s at a gas station/store is the norm 
there, now here in Iowa, what have we, slot’s at the gas station. Nevada/Colorado have initiatives in '06,just like Denver in 2005, only this will be statewide. 
All we here about is “Why are people moving away from Iowa in droves? “ If we 
want to be like Nevada, make medical marijuana legal as well as a N.I.C.E.R. choice. If you were 21, didn’t do meth and liked to smoke weed, would you live in Denver or 
Des Moines ? Compare a pot field to a meth lab. marijuana field = environment good 
meth lab = environment BAD There is no comparison. METH IS DEATH POT IS NOT Why are the fines the same for simple possession? A person can do life in prison for cultivation of marijuana and do life in prison. Another 
man may kill someone, and be in prison for only eight years. Soon, Wisconsin and Minnesota will be home to Iowa medi-chronic refugees who have 
fled the most fertile soil in our country, to avoid this injustice. Sincerely, Rev. Ray Green* *it's a message board, just here to SBRAE Life, I don't attend Sunday services 
so I am not here to offend, only raise awareness.Last edited by RevGreen on Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:39 pm; edited 2 times in total 
 
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Comment #74 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:42:24 PT:
B Green
So you dont want a copy of the AMMA 12/12/2006 ARTICLE.wont that prove I am not a liar.God I cant wait for that Federal judges decision.
I am going to post it here and enjoy it.Funny when I first started posting here you thought I was great.Now I am a pompous ass.What do you say B Greenwhat will you say when a Federal judge that has already allowed medical marijuana to be smoked rules on the arguments I have submitted.
I like my chances...
See you in 20 days B green
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Comment #73 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:36:06 PT:
a study WE did.
Wouldnt you be upset if you did a study,
Then some guy throws a fit you did a study,then tells everyone he did a study.When you do a study,it has your name on it.
You have read it,you have a copy of it.That would mean you did a study.When it has somebody else's name on it,you have not read it,you do not have a copy of it,and it takes a position you do not agree with,how could you say you did a study and not be a liar.Because I called him on it on this website I am a narc/ prosecutor.
Whatever..
see you in 20 days.
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Comment #72 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 22:30:15 PT
OK, I'll go on record
You, publicbulldog, are a liar and a pompous ass.I won't regret anything because you scream too loudly in defense of your questionable actions, just as you would expect a narc or LEA to do.I don't give a crap about you or anything you say you're doing because you're full of crap.You have shown NO compassion in your ravings, so the possibility of you helping anybody is implausible.You've created dissension and do nothing but stir up trouble with your self righteousness ... just like I've seen cops and narcs do my entire adult life.I'm finished with your crap, but I'll shoot down your lies as long as you continue to spew them here.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #71 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:26:21 PT:
I will send a copy of the propaganda here
DrugSense
14252 Culver Drive #328
Irvine, CA, 92604-0326
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Comment #70 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:21:28 PT:
AMMA 12/12/2006 dispensary awards
Get a PO box,and I will send it to you B Green.
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Comment #69 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 22:18:43 PT:
NARC...
OK B Green
What will you say when 20 plus federal prisoners are released due to my efforts.
How about three Federal prisoners.
With no pay I represent medical marijuana patients that have been sent to Federal prison because they grew too many plants.
One day even Steve Sarich will benefit from my work.
Just imagine a Federal ruling that will no longer allow federal courts to hear medical marijuana cases.Your hunch is not only wrong B Green,It will be embarrassing for you soon..say about 20 days when those decisons come down.
If you are a reasonable man,then perhaps you could see the wisdom in keeping medical records of 1200 people away from a grow site.
You are entitled to your Opinion.
Myself I will continue to think that was predictable and irresponsible.
My work does not require television,newspapers or Blog sites.
If those decisons come down in my favor,I will never let you and whig live them down.
Maybe I should get a caregiver and then grow for the gray market to get some respect around here...Not.
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Comment #68 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 22:06:42 PT
Well, publicbulldog
I guess because you say you have proof that none of the rest of us have seen or can find our own verified copy of, then we just have to take your word about it because whig and the rest of us are just idiots.I don't like your style, your attitude or your insistence on writing hundreds of words without ever giving us a paragraph break.Most of us have been around here for years and then you show up and have the audacity to criticize us for pointing out that, whether intentional or not, your actions have "narc" written all over them.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #67 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 21:52:53 PT:
prosecutor??
What will whig come up with next.
Meanwhile I am helping 20 inmates in federal prisons across the US.
whig seems upset that I accused Steve Sarich of being irresponsible.
Well, when you have a caregiver,and grow 1500 plants,and then get 1200 patients name put in a federal data base,I think it is irresponsible.
Whig wants Dispensaries.
But he does not want them to be tested.
B Green suggest because he cant find any info on the web that AMMA did not do a study.
Well b Green I have a 4 page print out from AMMA DATED12/12/2006 called dispensary awards.
In it are the results I quoted.
As far as pot being laced with crank or other substances how can someone say that that is PROPAGANDA.
The Statements by whig are purely spitefull,and contrarian. Due to his reference to Steve Sarich being a savior,I can guess his motive.
If my comments about Sarich are his reasons then to heck with him.
Whig is an idiot.
That is fair to me B Green
Only an idiot would call a gray marketeer that took stupid risks ,and happend to have medical records on site to be confiscated,a savior..
That was too predictable.In fact I predicted it.----- Original Message ----- From: "john worthington"  
To:  
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:07 AM 
Subject: out of cannacare   Hello Ken, 
Steve told me he got rid of a bunch of plants to stay below the federal limit. 
He did not. 
He just branched out to vancouver and bellingham. 
this is something I do not support. 
I feel steve made this decision alone. 
He told me he was reducing his numbers. 
Instead he has grown his numbers. 
I am not comfortable with steve telling us one thing and doing another. 
He is risking everyone in his organization. 
I have dropped out of his organization effective today. 
Steve is setting everyone up for a conspiracy Charge. 
The feds do not like us all spread out. 
The love it when they can go to one organization and round us all up. 
Steve is creating a round up. 
I am not going to be part of steves roundup. 
I suggest you don't be either. 
He wants you to help him move those things again. 
I would not become a party to an obvious conspracy. 
You thought you were helping him. 
But he did not disclose to you that those were still his plants. 
He did not adhere to our advice. 
he simply told us what we wanted to here,they were gone. 
I don't trust steve anymore. 
I feel he is setting up medical marijuana patients like bowling pins. 
John 
 
Sarich himself came on this site and never addressed to fact that he had a caregiver.
Whig stood up for him.
Sarich wants to be the voice of Medical marijuana in my state.
I want to inform people and let them speak for myself.
Funny when the newspapers find out he had a caregiver they stopped writing about him.
Not one of the newspapers that did stories on him knew he had a caregiver.
When you have a caregiver,then grow for the gray market you are in it for profit,not compassion.
I won this round in the legislature.
Sarich,and the gray marketeers lost.
Sarich ran around telling everyone that he did a study I did,and he never even read,then told everyone I did not speak for medical marijuana patients.
That is Whigs savior.
A lier and responsible for 1200 patients being put into a federal data base.
The study I did contains those four pages from the AMMA article on 12/12/2006.
Most of MY study is posted on the american alliance for medical cannabis website.
As you can see B Green the e-mails were written by me and were answered too me.
The replies say Mr Worthington..not mr Sarich.
So there is whigs savior trying to take credit for a study he never wanted to do,and tried to stop me from doing,then telling the media HE did.
I have tons of e-mails I would love to post on this site but I do not feel I have to,just for Whig.
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Comment #66 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 20:47:12 PT
BGreen
I guess I didn't catch the sarcasm. Sorry if I overreacted.
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Comment #65 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 19:53:11 PT
whig re: post #52
I don't think publicbulldog was disparaging Ed R. or Steve K., I think he was accusing YOU of calling THEM propagandists.He called YOU spiteful and a contrarian, and then said he emailed them with your words (and I'm sure many of his own.)I have pasted your comments in an e-mail to the AMMA. They are the group that tested the California medical marijuana dispensaries and found Avid and Malathion. We should run them out of town on a rail for making that statement of propaganda. Our movement just cant trust Ed Rosenthal ,and Steve Kubby. Ay Whig It's clear that he's being sarcastic, implying that YOU accused them of being propagandists. That's why I had to speak up.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #64 posted by FoM on April 26, 2007 at 18:47:38 PT
Whig
I don't understand what publicbulldog means. I hope you can handle it because none of it makes sense to me.
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Comment #63 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 18:05:09 PT
OT: Republicans falling down
http://www.veracifier.com/episode/TPMTV_13
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Comment #62 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 16:09:26 PT
However
He is manufacturing evidence, planting the public belief that serious crimes were committed, when he only imagined them.
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Comment #61 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 16:08:30 PT
Here is what I think
Publicbulldog is a prosecutor, drawing up a conspiracy indictment.
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Comment #60 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 16:01:55 PT
Clarification
I wanted to remind that we remember he came here slandering Steve Sarich. I have no reason to believe that Steve Sarich is anything but a fine, upstanding person. He might even be some kind of hero, important enough that John Worthington should come here originally to make us believe him a villain.
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Comment #59 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 15:59:22 PT
Steve Sarich
I hope he knows that we have not forgotten, and this is a serious matter that John Worthington comes around saying don't trust this or that person, but provides no basis for mistrust. He is a dangerous one.
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Comment #58 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 15:56:52 PT
BGreen
And he's sowing dissension, telling people not to trust Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby.There is no basis to this, it is slander.
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Comment #57 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 15:45:37 PT
whig re: post #52
That's what I was referring to.I wouldn't say publicbulldog is a liar because I have no proof nor do I have any reason to question his motivation.It is possible to hear something and repeat it as truth, even though it may not have been true in the first place.I believe publicbulldog believes it to be true, but the lack of corroboration the AMMA website seems to suggest otherwise.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #56 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 15:34:02 PT
BGreen
I don't understand, did Publicbulldog falsely malign me elsewhere?
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Comment #55 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 15:30:50 PT
BGreen
Would you say that Publicbulldog is a liar?
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Comment #54 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 15:05:24 PT
Nothing on the AMMA site about pesticides
Jeez, a search of the AMMA site doesn't mention avid, malathion OR pesticides, let alone any medical cannabis tainted by those chemicals.Hmmm!?!?!?Why didn't they warn people? Do they not care? Send them an email.In fact, a google search shows there are several references to the AMMA findings, some made by you, but I can't find anything directly from the AMMA to substantiate these allegations.IMHO, the AMMA would have this information on their front page if they had truly discovered tainted medical cannabis.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #53 posted by BGreen on April 26, 2007 at 14:44:02 PT
publicbulldog
You took the info about avid and malathion and inserted "crank-laced" into your post, then took part of your post as an example of how bad whig is.Part of your post was propaganda mixed with a little truth.You've shown a desire to fight but you don't really fight fair.If you would have backed up any of your assertions in your original post you wouldn't have been able to send off your tattle tale email to the AMMA.I just don't understand your intentions.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #52 posted by publicbulldog on April 26, 2007 at 14:18:20 PT:
Whig
spiteful - showing malicious ill will and a desire to hurt; motivated by spite; "a despiteful fiend"; "a truly spiteful child"; "a vindictive man will look for occasions for resentment"contrarian
A contrarian is someone who poses as a skeptic, refusing to accept consensus conclusions in science on the ground that there is still some uncertaintyI have pasted your comments in an e-mail to the AMMA.
They are the group that tested the California medical marijuana dispensaries and found Avid and Malathion.
We should run them out of town on a rail for making that statement of propaganda.
Our movement just cant trust Ed Rosenthal ,and Steve Kubby.
Ay Whig
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Comment #51 posted by museman on April 26, 2007 at 12:08:03 PT
pot 2.0
Lies, 2.0. The new straws to grasp at as gravity and reality sucks the prohibition mind set down into the deep hole that they have dug for themselves. Somebody toss them a joint, maybe they'll 'hallucinate' a ladder so they can climb back out.
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on April 26, 2007 at 09:38:56 PT
Pot 2.0?
How do you say that? Pot two point oh? Pot two? Is he making reference to "higher education", a college class or what? I'm afraid I don't get the terror tactic they're using. I do get that the Director of National Drug Abuse is shook. "Pay attention people! This is serious! I need you to pay attention to me! This is important! I need this job!"
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Comment #49 posted by whig on April 26, 2007 at 09:19:41 PT
cannabliss
You should wait for the first service pack. Pot 2.0 is not as stable as version 1.3 right now and unless you have specific requirements you might be best to hold off upgrading for awhile.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on April 26, 2007 at 07:42:45 PT
cannabliss
That was funny!
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Comment #47 posted by cannabliss on April 26, 2007 at 07:31:14 PT
Link for Download?
Can anyone provide a link where I can download the installer for Pot 2.0? I would like to upgrade.I have been using 1.3 service pack 2 but I occasionally eat too many doritos.Thanks.
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Comment #46 posted by dongenero on April 26, 2007 at 07:24:35 PT
Pot 2.0 ??
Gee, Walters is all hip and down with this latest internet and web jargon. 
The kids must know he speaks the word.2.0, give me a friggin break.I can just imagine the strategy meetings at ONDCP. Will Farrell and Ben Stiller should make a movie about it.
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Comment #45 posted by OverwhelmSam on April 26, 2007 at 04:01:49 PT
So, Marijuana Potency is Lower.
I guess pot takes the spotlight off of alcohol and cigarette manufacturers. According to previous bowel movements by ONDCP, I thought all marijuana was 15%, 20%, or 25% THC now. So in effect, the government was lying. Go figure. 
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on April 26, 2007 at 00:58:47 PT
The GCW
It sounds like you are having a wonderful time this evening sifting through spiritual treasures and gifts. 
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Comment #43 posted by BGreen on April 25, 2007 at 23:01:04 PT
We were warned against things that are wrong
Cannabis has been around since before the time of Jesus, and archaeological and historical evidence show that cannabis was used as medicine during the life of Jesus and in later years as the Books of the New Testament were being written.Great pains were taken throughout the Old and New Testaments to warn people specifically of those things to avoid. Common sense would lead one to believe that IF cannabis was to be avoided, SOMEBODY would have mentioned it, at least once, somewhere in all of those words. Nope, not a single negative word.The question to ask a person like David Miller would be "Do you think God created a plant so bad that anybody possessing it or "conspiring" to possess it, not even smoking it or consuming it, should be imprisoned for far longer than murderers and thieves, two things CLEARLY forbidden IN WRITING numerous times throughout the Bible, and yet God somehow "forgot" to mention it?"Give me a break!The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #42 posted by The GCW on April 25, 2007 at 22:50:01 PT
Hope, 
Check this out.After entering into the midst of prayer time, seeking the Spirit of Truth's perfection, guidance etc. and reading Matthew 7:1-6 and writting to You, I then continue on and Matthew 7:7-12 subtitled Prayer and the Goden Rule, reasures Me and the way of praying and asking for the Master to put His words into My mouth and into writting is the correct way by Biblically stating: "7"(F)Ask, and (G)it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 
 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9"Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone?" Cont... And then, Hope,If that's not enough,I Am led to refer to smoking cannabis...***Cannabis, being the tree of life is useful smoked like in the tent of meeting. ***Then / When I decide to google... so I type in: "tent-of-meeting cannabis" and press enter and then it indicates there are  about 420 entriesI thank Christ God Our Father again and again and again.It's constant.
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 22:25:25 PT
The GCW
:0)Makes me glad if I can help.
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Comment #40 posted by The GCW on April 25, 2007 at 22:18:19 PT
Hope,
You are a part of God's answer to My prayer.-0-David completely missed the dart board; You got a handful of bulls-eyes.David's tone compared to Your tone even becomes part of the dynamic that other people feel, even non believers, to create a lesson on a combination of levels. Helpful to bring more people closer to the Master.David William's tone exposes judgement... and, while in prayer, the Spirit of Truth was also adding to Matthew 7:1-6's lesson of do not judge, by pointing out:We should not judge how a person chooses to use certain vegetables for We may appear to support and enable harming a person for using what God says is good, causing Us to stumble starting on the very 1st page of the Bible, in a manner that even non believers can see it from a distance. -0-To teach non-believers what a disobedient Christian looks like, helps clear a path / helps people realize that they want to become obedient Christians.To humbly teach a disobedient Christian that a non-believer can see them may help them become obedient.I hope David & I learn.Hope, You are a survivor.We will meet later.Love,The Green Collar Worker
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Comment #39 posted by whig on April 25, 2007 at 21:56:29 PT
And the walls come tumbling down
Puff the Magic Dragon part 3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDyOvY9dr7Q
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Comment #38 posted by whig on April 25, 2007 at 21:37:47 PT
publicbulldog
"Emergency room,poppycock,just stay away from avid,and malathion laced pot,or crank laced pot and you will be fine. The fact is black market supplies are not tested and are prone to bad supplies."Propaganda. Propaganda.
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Comment #37 posted by whig on April 25, 2007 at 21:32:12 PT
Guilty Dragon
Puff the Magic Dragon part 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKAF3iqG82w
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 21:27:44 PT
GCW...I'm not Stan White...but I'd say this...
"Do you honestly believe that smoking marijuana is God's intended purpose for cannabis?"Me? Yes. I do...among many other uses and purposes."Some studies have shown that there are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. How can you say that permanently damaging your lungs is biblically correct? See 1 Corinthians 6:19."Actually any studies that ever did have been refuted...completely. See Dr. Donald Tashkin's latest study indicating a that there may be something in cannabis/marijuana that actually protects people from cancer. I don't believe I said that damaging your lungs is "Biblically correct". Did I? When I see 1 Corinthians 6:19 I see you should have read a bit before to know what context this scripture is in. This scripture is referring to sexual sin. (See 1 Corinthians 18 - 20.) 18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."Also, many people who smoke marijuana believe it is safe to drive while high. This is a horrible misconception. Being high is scientifically proven to lower reaction abilities and driving under the influence of marijuana has many times proven fatal to the driver and many innocent people."If you have a computer, run a search on cannabis and driving. There are quite a few. Oddly enough, most studies showed the cannabis/marijuana consuming drivers in the studies performed better because they were even more cautious than usual. Of course, even knowing that, I think there are probably, in fact, many people who consume cannabis who, in fact, choose not to drive when under the influence. "I assure you God does not approve of killing innocent people. See Exodus 23:7." I agree. It is wrong to kill and even mistreat innocent people. You'll find this scripture isn't about automobile accidents, ...it's about laws and governing and the right way to treat people...all people.Exodus 23:7? Exodus 23: 7 Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty. Ah ... the whole chapter taken in context? That's the one about laws...and justice and mercy. Seeing verses 6 and 8 and 9 might help you better understand this admonishion. Exodus 23: 6 "Do not deny justice to your poor people in their lawsuits. 7 Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty. 8 "Do not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds those who see and twists the words of the righteous. 9 "Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt.(I might mention some of that if I was Stan White when I replied to David Williams.)
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Comment #35 posted by whig on April 25, 2007 at 21:14:41 PT
Liars
Puff the Magic Dragonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L-WRkswxs8
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Comment #34 posted by The GCW on April 25, 2007 at 21:08:47 PT
Hemp World's post...
Hemp World's post helps expose how it doesn't matter what the potency of cannabis is;Prohibitionists will persecute, prohibit and exterminate cannabis (kaneh bosm) even if potencey was shrinking.They prohibited hemp food products as long as they could and it only contains a fraction of a percent of THC.The only reason prohibitionists no longer prohibit hemp seed and hemp oil is because activist took them to court and made them stop their evil ways.The government is fighting against God on this issue and can not win.God is not a loser.
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Comment #33 posted by HempWorld on April 25, 2007 at 20:51:05 PT
Is Cannabis getting stronger, or just the hashish?
New EMCDDA study asks ‘Is cannabis getting stronger?’ 
(June, 25, 2004, LISBON) 'Is cannabis getting stronger?’ is the key question explored in the first-ever European review of cannabis potency released today, International day against drug abuse and illicit drug trafficking, by the EU drugs agency (EMCDDA). Today’s study was launched in the light of recent concerns that cannabis may now be much stronger than in the past, and that increasing potency could be resulting in more health problems for users. Such concerns are worrying as cannabis is the most commonly used illicit drug in the EU, with many countries reporting lifetime prevalence rates in excess of 20%. And the number of those both experimenting with, and using, the drug intensively has risen over the last decade.Commenting on the study, EMCDDA Director Georges Estievenart says: ‘There has been much speculation on the strength of cannabis available today, but little in the way of hard evidence. This study contributes to research by offering a broad overview of what is currently known about trends in cannabis potency in Europe’. Analysing cannabis potencyThe potency of cannabis is defined as the amount of the primary active ingredient ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) present in the drug. Analysing this potency is complicated by a number of factors.Firstly, cannabis is available in different forms – most commonly as cannabis resin (hashish) and herbal cannabis (marijuana) but also, more rarely, as an oil. Potency varies between these different products, but can also vary between different samples of the same product or even within the same sample. Herbal cannabis presents particular challenges for testing, as THC levels can vary considerably in different parts of the plant and the sample tested may not be representative of the whole seizure. Secondly, there is substantial natural variation in THC levels in cannabis. Such variation can be attributed to different methods of cultivation or the geographical source. But variations can also occur within plants cultivated in similar settings. Thirdly, the age of the product is important. The rate of THC decomposition in cannabis at room temperature is estimated at 17% per annum and, in some cases, THC almost completely disappears after two years of storage. Therefore, how long the drug has been in transit and storage (both before and after the drug is seized) may have an impact on potency estimates. Finally, analytical problems arise in measuring THC: different laboratories may use diverse testing methods or measure THC against different reference standards; and countries may adopt different sampling strategies, or only test a small number of samples. Collectively these problems can produce unreliable or imprecise results, which complicate the assessment of trends over time and diminish the reliability of historical data. Standard testing and sampling procedures thus need to be developed to provide a clear picture of potency and allow trends to be monitored over time.Natural variation in the THC content of imported cannabis at any one time and place far exceeds any long-term changes in potency that may have occurred in Europe in recent years. This means that regular cannabis users will, in all probability, have been exposed to both high potency and low potency cannabis – but this is not a new phenomenon as some forms of high potency cannabis have always been available. No evidence of a significant increase in overall potency of cannabis in Europe.Today’s study reveals that when the overall potency of cannabis products available on the European market is calculated, there is no evidence of a significant increase in potency. This is because, in most EU countries, imported cannabis (herbal and resin) dominates the market and this has remained stable over many years. Information on potency and the relative consumption of different products in a particular country can be combined to give the overall trend in THC levels that are experienced by cannabis consumers. Termed the ‘effective potency’, it is derived by weighting the potency of each product by its fractional share of the market and then summing the individual values to give an estimate for the average potency of cannabis available at any one time. Today’s report shows that effective potency of cannabis in nearly all EU countries has remained quite stable for many years, at around 6–8% THC. The only exception has been the Netherlands where, by 2001–2002, it had reached 16%, largely due to the increasing availability of intensively produced home-grown cannabis (go Holland ed.). Intensively-grown cannabis more potent The study shows that overall increases in cannabis potency occurring in some countries are almost entirely due to the increased relative consumption of home-produced herbal cannabis, cultivated using intensive hydroponic techniques. Indoor cultivation of herbal cannabis now occurs in most, if not all, European countries but imported products are still more commonly used. Herbal cannabis grown in this way in the EU is overall consistently of high potency, often two or three times greater than herbal cannabis imported from countries of North Africa, the Caribbean, and the Far East, where it is grown naturally outdoors and where storage and transit time degrade the THC. But that said, there is considerable overlap in terms of the potency of both imported and intensively grown cannabis, with imported cannabis sometimes found among the more potent samples tested. Although in many EU countries some intensive home production of cannabis now occurs, the market share of this type of the drug is thought to be small, but there are concerns that it might be growing, highlighting a need for better monitoring of the market. One exception is the Netherlands, where, due to relatively high domestic levels of intensively produced cannabis (nederwiet), it is estimated that over half the cannabis market now consists of locally-grown products, although only a proportion of these is likely to be exceptionally potent. The higher potency of home-grown herbal cannabis over imported products may be due to several factors: genetic (e.g. seed variety); environmental (special lighting, feed supplements, artificial altering of day-length and other conditions); and freshness (production closer to consumer and no storage degradation of THC). Variations in Europe’s cannabis market National statistics from law-enforcement agencies show the EU to be the world’s main consumer of cannabis resin. Resin seizures are more common in Western Europe than Eastern Europe. Between 1996 and 2001, resin accounted for 79% of the total weight of cannabis seized in Western Europe, while, in Eastern Europe, this proportion was only 13% (UNODC, 2003). This is accounted for by the geographical position of Morocco,the world’s largest producer of resin. In terms of cannabis consumption estimates, European countries fall into two distinct groups. In some countries, herbal cannabis holds the largest market share – e.g. Belgium (80%), the Czech Republic (90%),Estonia (85%), and Austria (70%), while in the Netherlands, the estimated market share of home produced herbal cannabis is 67%, imported herbal cannabis 3% and imported resin 29%. Elsewhere cannabis resin dominates the market – e.g. Germany (60%), Ireland (90%), Portugal (90%) and the United Kingdom (70%). The predominant use of herbal cannabis in Eastern Europe is consistent with the above pattern of drug seizures and may reflect the greater separation of these markets from the production sites of North Africa. In the United Kingdom, herbal material, around half of which is imported, is estimated to comprise only one-third of all cannabis consumed. A survey of reefer cigarettes in Ireland also pointed to the dominance of resin – over 90% of such cigarettes contained it. In both these countries, the content of reefer cigarettes over the past 20 years has been ‘remarkably constant’. A British study suggests that the typical reefer cigarette in the UK contains around 200 mg of herbal cannabis or 150 mg of cannabis resin, equivalent to around 10 mg of THC. Similar findings were reported in a study from Ireland where the mean herbal cannabis content of cigarettes was 260 mg and the mean resin content was 102 mg. There are also major differences in patterns of use between the United States and Europe. In Europe, both forms are usually smoked in a mixture with tobacco. In the US, herbal cannabis, either grown domestically or imported from Canada or Mexico, is commonly smoked, but cannabis resin is seen more rarely. Does high-potency cannabis present additional health worries? (no the opposite ed.) If intensively grown cannabis does take a larger market share in the future, what impact will this have on users’ health? In answering this question the following issues need to be considered. Most of the research in this area originates in the US and is of questionable relevance to Europe as consumption patterns differ (see above).One major unresolved question is whether individuals who smoke high-potency cannabis may simply use less of the drug to achieve the same effect. In this case, use of high-potency cannabis may not necessarily result in increased dose exposure (higher levels of THC in the blood) or elevated health risks. Equally, or even more, important in influencing the total THC to which an individual is exposed over time are factors such as: the age of onset of use; the intensity of use; and the time period over which individuals use the drug. One influential Australian review concluded that cannabis users’ lifetime dose levels may have increased but this was more due to the fact that they were using earlier, and for longer, rather than because of the availability of stronger cannabis products. Nevertheless, it is plausible that some health problems, and acute problems in particular – such as panic attacks and minor psychological problems – might be more common among users consuming high-potency cannabis. Given the rising concern about a possible link between cannabis and serious long-term psychological health problems, a negative impact of the use of high-potency cannabis cannot be ruled out. All things considered, there is a pressing need to monitor the availability of different types of cannabis on the European illicit drug market and to research the behaviour of cannabis users; levels of THC dose exposure; and the development of both acute and chronic health problems. The EMCDDA says there is no evidence of significant changes in THC levels of cannabis consumed in Europe as a whole. This is because imported cannabis products dominate the market and – although potency varies considerably in individual samples of imported products – potency levels have, on average, remained stable. A growing concern however is the availability of intensively cultivated domestic produced cannabis, which is more consistently of high potency. Where changes are reported in potency of cannabis available in Europe they relate almost exclusively to the availability of this kind of cannabis product. Estievenart concludes: ‘The message we draw from this study is that we should neither be over-alarmist nor too complacent about the potency of cannabis available today. Cannabis produced within Europe using new methods is consistently of higher potency, although this product remains relatively rare in most countries. But this could change, and we must therefore implement measures to monitor the situation carefully and extend our understanding of what impact high-potency cannabis is likely to have on the health of cannabis users’. Editors notes An overview of cannabis potency in Europe, EMCDDA Insights No 6, 2004. Prepared by Dr Leslie A. King under the direction of Paul Griffiths and Chloé Carpentier of the EMCDDA. The study is downloadable from: http://www.emcdda.eu.int Information on the potency of cannabis products in European countries was obtained from: a review of the scientific and technical literature on this subject; reports from EU Member States (Standard Table 14 submissions as part of their participation in the EMCDDA–Reitox European monitoring system on drugs); and information obtained from a specially designed questionnaire sent to nominated experts in forensic science, toxicology and drug testing. Experts from 13 EU countries assisted with the study. 
Nobody can stop this!
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Comment #32 posted by Dr Ganj on April 25, 2007 at 19:18:40 PT
Delta 9 THC
Do you realize how much hash, honey oil, glandular capitate trichomes, and super-ganjy buds they sell at the cannabis clubs? So much it's astounding. 
Now, how many reports do you read about all those customers being too stoned in Berkeley, or Oakland? None, that's how many.
All those customers enjoying their THC products are truly stoked that such an awesome array of danky delights are available to them, and dispensed by such cool people.
Prop 215 works. Cannabis clubs work. Marijuana is good.
For all you ignorant people who don't understand how beneficial marijuana is-then all I can say is maybe in your next life you'll see the truth. 
For us that do know, we try so hard to share the magic plant, and marvel over its radiant beauty.
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Comment #31 posted by The GCW on April 25, 2007 at 19:11:17 PT
Care to comment on the comment?
This is an interesting comment to a letter that was printed a day or 2 ago. First the letter / comment then the referred letter.Source: Daily Tar Heel, The (U of NC, Edu)April 25, 2007God didn't make marijuana so people could smoke ithttp://media.www.dailytarheel.com/media/storage/paper885/news/2007/04/25/LettersToTheEditor/God-Didnt.Make.Marijuana.So.People.Could.Smoke.It-2878756.shtmlTO THE EDITOR:I am writing in response to the April 24 letter arguing that God approves of marijuana misuse. The fact that God created all plants and that they are all good in no way justifies the perverted use of them. Do you honestly believe that smoking marijuana is God's intended purpose for cannabis?Some studies have shown that there are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. How can you say that permanently damaging your lungs is biblically correct? See 1 Corinthians 6:19.Also, many people who smoke marijuana believe it is safe to drive while high. This is a horrible misconception. Being high is scientifically proven to lower reaction abilities and driving under the influence of marijuana has many times proven fatal to the driver and many innocent people.I assure you God does not approve of killing innocent people. See Exodus 23:7.David WilliamsFreshmanPhysicsContact: editdesk unc.edu(Coming soot to MAP)-0-Referred:US NC: Edu: PUB LTE: Bible Says God Would Be OK With Marijuanahttp://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n517/a02.html?21616April 23, 2007
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Comment #30 posted by mayan on April 25, 2007 at 18:26:07 PT
Stronger Cannabis
If that is the best they can do then we have already won!THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN....9-11 survivor tells his story: Former janitor talks about first explosion he experienced:
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/042307/TRI_BD10AM9S.060.phpHero shares his recollections of Sept. 11: 
http://www.leadertelegram.com/story.asp?id=82015Rosie Tells ABC To Screw Its 9/11 Censorship:
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/250407ODonnell.htmHuman-Deficient Brzezinski Exposed for 9/11 Culpability:
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/250407_brzezinski_911.htmlMainstream Danish newspaper runs feature article on unexplained WTC7 collapse:
http://www.911truth.dk/first/en/art_Harrit.htmGiuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win: 
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/250407Giuliani.htm
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 17:52:59 PT
SystemGoneDown
It's good to see you. I understanding venting. It can be good for us sometimes.
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Comment #28 posted by SystemGoneDown on April 25, 2007 at 17:37:52 PT
Deadly Grass...
Oh no look, the grass is shady.Oh now look, the news is waving.Calling you out, with reckless harmonyNon-stop rape and unwanted sodomy.Lift me like the clever norm.Slander comes in many forms.
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Comment #27 posted by SystemGoneDown on April 25, 2007 at 17:28:04 PT
Venting...
So I read on the so-called news ticker on CNN. It said that according to the government, marijuana is more potent than EVER, as if EVER implied FOR-ever. As in marijuana has been around longer than the human race so that automatically nullifies their so-called statement. If it is true that people are going to emergency rooms for pot, it would literally only take 1 or 2 incidents for them to put that bullsh*t up on the news. I hardly ever post on here anymore but I thank you guys for allowing me to express and hopefully connect with all of your anger about the way this country's going, much less the heatless debate that ALL DRUGS should be legal by now.If Fox News is the CIA, then CNN is their patsy.
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Comment #26 posted by The GCW on April 25, 2007 at 16:05:56 PT
I believe it.
Cannabis (the devil weed) is stronger than meth, stronger than heroin, coke, crack, whiskey, bullets, bombs, tornadoes, earth quakes, jets, stronger than the sun, tidal waves, elephants, superman, spiderman, the army and lions.Just ask the government.
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Comment #25 posted by RevRayGreen on April 25, 2007 at 15:43:15 PT
Explain these medical emergencies
"This could explain why there has been an increase in the number of medical emergencies involving marijuana."I'd like to see someone in the ER deal with someone for cannabis intoxication. By the time they actually see the ER Doc after waiting in the lobby, then in an ER room, any buzz would be worn off by then.what a bunch of BS, notice the FDA didn't run some more propab*llsh*t on 420 this year.
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 15:20:53 PT
My all time favorite, though,
was the kind that would lace your workboots for you.:0)Sativa, I guess? The stimulating one.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 15:18:47 PT
And oh my...
the poor kid caught with pot in those days. They may as well have just committed suicide. Oh yeah. Some of them did.
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 15:16:17 PT
Heck...it was so strong...
I've heard some people say that it was so very powerful that it was the reason we lost the war in Vietnam. It was a truly evil menace. It made people not like war.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 15:13:07 PT
Comment 18 That's right, BGreen.
I remember that pot from the sixties and seventies. I was told it would scramble my chromosones and make me grow hair like an ape. I was told that in an autopsy, an 18 year old pot smoking man had the brain of a ninety something year old man because he withered it with marijuana. Another autopsy of a young man who was a pot smoker and died in Vietnam of the Vietnam war, I was told that his brain disintegrated when a doctor touched it....like a pile of ashes.That sounds pretty darned potent to me!Oh yeah. It was a lie. All a lie. Just like the lies they are telling still.
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Comment #20 posted by potpal on April 25, 2007 at 14:55:48 PT
AP Noise
Now AP drags out this tired, old and recycled noise story, it's not the first time this line of bs has been used, in this case, use is abuse. They parrot whatever Johnny Pee has to say.Did AP carry the cannabis/lung cancer news released last week? Don't think so.Can we safely call AP and Reuters prohibitionists and nothing more than a mouthpiece for the antis? 
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Comment #19 posted by BGreen on April 25, 2007 at 14:45:12 PT
No, the problem is PROHIBITION
Volkow said demand has driven growers to cultivate the stronger stuff. "It is the market," she said. "Like in the market you favor the best tomatoes. When people buy marijuana, they don't want a weak cigarette."Prohibition brings us stronger products because of the risk of manufacture and distribution ... period.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #18 posted by BGreen on April 25, 2007 at 14:42:15 PT
Admit to LYING about the marijuana of our youth!
How come the "marijuana of our youth" is now deemed "harmless" by the drug warriors, when they said the exact same horrible consequences would result from partaking of the "marijuana of our youth" as they're saying about this "new" more potent marijuana.Now, either they have to admit to LYING about the "marijuana of our youth" or else there is NO CREDIBILITY to their ever changing message.Wait a minute, even if they DO ADMIT to lying about the "marijuana of our youth," they have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY to their ever changing message because they are KNOWN AND ADMITTED LIARS!I know that there's no way I could ever consume as much cannabis when in the Netherlands as I did back in high school, so the point of a more potent cannabis is MOOT when you use less as a result.This is just a little delayed 4/20 desperation propaganda.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #17 posted by publicbulldog on April 25, 2007 at 14:38:18 PT:
I thought BC BUD was the most powerful
Geez they cant even keep track of their lies.
They need a lie file to be able to keep track of the lies they tell.
One week BC BUD is 600 times more powerful than a locomotive,the next month Oregon pot is.
What they do not want to hear is that you simply need less of it.
When the effects are high the dosages are low.
Emergency room,poppycock,just stay away from avid,and malathion laced pot,or crank laced pot and you will be fine.
The fact is black market supplies are not tested and are prone to bad supplies.
This is article is nothing more than a modern day version of the 50 pound monkey from refer madness.
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Comment #16 posted by paul armentano on April 25, 2007 at 14:32:27 PT
Responding to the "potent pot" scare
Talking points responding to the "potent pot" scare may be found in the 2005 edition of the NORML Truth report, specifically:http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5515ALLEGATION #10
“Average THC levels rose from less than 1% in the late 1970s to more than 7% in 2001, and sinsemilla potency increased from 6% to 13%, and now reach as high as 33%”TRUTH
This statement is both inaccurate and misleading. No population en masse has ever smoked marijuana averaging less than one percent THC since such low potency marijuana would not induce euphoria. In many nations, including Canada and the European Union, marijuana of one percent THC or less is legally classified as an agricultural fiber crop, hemp.76 Although annual marijuana potency data compiled by the University of Mississippi’s Research Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences does show a slight increase in marijuana’s strength through the years,77 this increase is not nearly as dramatic as purported by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. In addition, quantities of exceptionally strong strains of marijuana or sinsemilla (seedless marijuana) comprise only a small percentage of the overall marijuana market. The NIDA-sponsored Marijuana Potency Monitoring Project reports that less than 10 percent of DEA seized marijuana samples are above 15 percent. Less than 2 percent of marijuana seized from the domestic market contains more than 20% THC.78 Data from Europe also refutes claims of increased cannabis potency, concluding "the potencies of resin and herbal cannabis ... have shown little or no change, at least over the past ten years."79 The drug czar’s upper-level THC figures are clearly a scare tactic.Moreover, it’s worth noting that more potent marijuana is not necessarily more dangerous.80 Marijuana poses no risk of fatal overdose, regardless of THC content, and since marijuana’s greatest potential health hazard stems from the user’s intake of carcinogenic smoke, it may be argued that higher potency marijuana may be slightly less harmful because it permits people to achieve desired psychoactive effects while inhaling less burning material.81 In addition, studies indicate that marijuana smokers distinguish between high and low potency marijuana and moderate their use accordingly,82 just as an alcohol consumer would drink fewer ounces of (high potency) bourbon than they would ounces of (low potency) beer.ALLEGATION #3
“60 percent of teenagers in treatment have a primary marijuana diagnosis. This means that the addiction to marijuana by our youth exceeds their addiction rates for alcohol, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, ecstasy and all other drugs combined.”TRUTH
This statement is purposefully misleading. Although admissions to drug rehabilitation clinics among marijuana users have increased dramatically since the mid-1990s, this rise in marijuana admissions is due to a proportional increase in the number of people arrested by law enforcement for marijuana violations and subsequently referred to drug treatment by the criminal justice system.28 Primarily, these are young people arrested for minor possession offenses,29 brought before a criminal judge (or drug court), and ordered to rehabilitation in lieu of jail or juvenile detention. As such, this data is in no way indicative of whether the person referred to treatment is suffering from any symptoms of dependence associated with marijuana use; most individuals are ordered to attend supervised drug treatment simply to avoid jail time. In fact, since 1995, the proportion of admissions from all sources other than the criminal justice system has actually declined, according to the federal Drug and Alcohol Services Information System (DASIS).30 Consequently, DASIS now reports that 58 percent of all marijuana admissions are through the criminal justice system.31 Referrals from schools and health care/drug abuse care providers comprise another 15 percent of all admissions.32 By comparison, only 38 percent of those admitted to treatment for alcohol and only 29 percent of those admitted to treatment for cocaine are referred by the criminal justice system.33ALLEGATION #9
“The truth is that marijuana is addictive. … Marijuana users have an addiction rate of about 10%, and of the 5.6 million drug users who are suffering from illegal drug dependence or abuse, 62 percent are dependent on or abusing marijuana.”TRUTH
Marijuana use is not marijuana abuse. According to the US Institute of Medicine’s 1999 Report: “Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base,” “Millions of Americans have tried marijuana, but most are not regular users, … [and] few marijuana users become dependent on it.”68 In fact, less than 10 percent of marijuana users ever exhibit symptoms of dependence (as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV criteria.)69 By comparison 15 percent of alcohol users, 17 percent of cocaine users, and a whopping 32 percent of cigarette smokers statistically exhibit symptoms of drug dependence.70 Marijuana is well recognized as lacking the so-called "dependence liability" of other substances. According to the IOM, “Experimental animals that are given the opportunity to self administer cannabinoids generally do not choose to do so, which has led to the conclusion that they are not reinforcing or rewarding.”71 Among humans, most marijuana users voluntarily cease their marijuana smoking by their late 20s or early 30s – often citing health or professional concerns and/or the decision to start a family.72 Contrast this pattern with that of the typical tobacco smoker – many of whom begin as teens and continue smoking daily the rest of their lives.That's not to say that some marijuana smokers do not become psychologically dependent on marijuana or find quitting difficult. But a comprehensive study released in 2002 by the Canadian Senate concluded that this dependence "is less severe and less frequent than dependence on other psychotropic substances, including alcohol and tobacco."73 Observable withdrawal symptoms attributable to marijuana are also exceedingly rare. According to the Institute of Medicine, these symptoms are “mild and short lived”74 compared to the profound physical withdrawal symptoms of other drugs, such as alcohol or heroin, and unlikely to persuade former smokers to re-initiate their marijuana use.75Finally, DPA’s Marsha Rosenbaum brings up an additional valid point in SAFETY FIRST, noting that even when/if strong pot is available, it's higher cost makes it seldom available to young people and/or anyone who is not a "connoisseur" of fine pot.Regards,
-- 
Paul Armentano
Senior Policy Analyst
NORML | NORML Foundation
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5515
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 14:29:06 PT
Just a Question
Has anyone seen Pot 1.0? 
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Comment #14 posted by dongenero on April 25, 2007 at 14:09:51 PT
marijuana is so strong.............
.....that it is now a Weapon of Mass Destruction.Ho hum. 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 13:49:56 PT
AP: Marijuana's Potency Continues to Climb
Wednesday, April 25, 2007WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Marijuana is getting a little more potent each year.A project at the University of Mississippi has tested samples of marijuana seized by law enforcement agents annually since the late 1970s to check levels of THC, the active ingredient. The testing has long been the basis for government warnings that marijuana is potentially more harmful today than it was for previous generations, an assertion disputed by critics of marijuana laws.The average amount of THC in marijuana seized last year reached 8.5 percent, continuing an almost yearly uptick, the White House drug-control policy office said Wednesday. The THC level has doubled since the 1980s.The government estimates that 4.1 million Americans use marijuana. Use by teenagers has declined recently, but federal officials worry that marijuana is being cited more often in emergency room visits.Copyright: 2007 Associated PressURL: http://tinyurl.com/3d425h
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 13:47:30 PT
"...robbing our paychecks every payday."
They are indeed. They are nothing but filthy thieves in coats and ties. 
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 13:43:50 PT
Strong pot
is good pot. The only reason for smoking, and smoking, and smoking weak pot is if you just like to smoke. I like to smoke to a certain extent....but puffing and puffing for the buzz doesn't stand up to just puff and go.Weak pot could have it's place in helping puffers get off the nicotine, I believe. But that's an option I hope will be available to people in the future... which I'm so hoping will be a saner time.
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on April 25, 2007 at 13:38:17 PT
The prohibitionists
are unreasonable, unwise, vicious, unmovable, and uneducatable.The term "stiff necked" used to be the term to refer to those who could not be turned from a wrong. Completely "closed minded" would be the modern term for it.They are a "stiff necked" and "closed minded" bunch, no doubt.I'm thankful for every single one that has "Come out from among them."
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Comment #9 posted by Sam Adams on April 25, 2007 at 13:33:15 PT
what's the point?
My reaction is....what do you propose to do about this, Walters? Your organization, the US government, has been in complete charge of drug control policy in this country for 80 years. This is the result. Time to self-terminate! If ONDCP was a computer it would know that shutting itself down would be the best for the overall health of the country.If there's anything for the people to REALLY be scared about, it's the fact that lying thieves are robbing our paychecks every payday.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 13:26:55 PT
JHarshaw and Konagold
It's good to see the both of you. Articles like this one must be filed away somewhere with a note to recycle every year or so. Is it money time again for them?
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 13:01:43 PT
potpal
I am looking forward to that date too. I don't like to wish life away so I'll take a little at a time. I am also looking forward to the debate on MSNBC tomorrow. I will be watching the news very closely all day tomorrow and into the evening. PS: I just checked and no Reuters article.Send us your question for the debate:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18182175/On April 26th, watch the 2008 Democratic Presidential Candidates Debate on MSNBC TV and MSNBC.com to see if your question is asked.“NBC Nightly News” Anchor and Managing Editor Brian Williams will moderate the debate.The South Carolina Democratic Party has announced that Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson are all confirmed to participate. The debate will take place at South Carolina State University in Orangeburg, South Carolina.
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Comment #6 posted by konagold on April 25, 2007 at 13:00:05 PT:
more BS
AlohaThis lie of 'pot 2.0' is so easily dismissed by one word onlyHASHISHHigh thc content hash has been readily available for millenniumTHE WAR ON POT IS OVERPOT WONAlohaRev. Dennis Shields
http://www.thereligionofjesuschurch.org
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Comment #5 posted by JHarshaw on April 25, 2007 at 12:56:07 PT
Strength
Greetings all,I'm surprised they had the nerve to mention hashish in an article about the "dangers" of stronger Cannabis since hash has always been stronger and it too, as far as I know, has never killed anyone!Just a thought, Peace and Pot.
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Comment #4 posted by potpal on April 25, 2007 at 12:49:52 PT
back at ya
1/20/09 can't get here soon enough.Just wondering if 'Reuters' reported on the cannabis/lung cancer news released last week?
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 12:45:34 PT
potpal
Once they are out of power we very well could see some good changes and way more quickly then we have seen over these last 6 plus years. I don't feel sorry for them either because they picked this approach and it is backfiring.
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Comment #2 posted by potpal on April 25, 2007 at 12:42:24 PT
Ho Hum
John Waters is a liar and a perfect fit for the current administration. Stronger pot, smoke less. Once the place is rid of the repugnicans, hopefully, Mr. Waters will get his walking papers too.Any thoughts on the stupid little pen and ink anti commercials aimed at pot, the ones with the talking dog? So stupid. How much tax dollars are shelled out for these idiotic ads?
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on April 25, 2007 at 12:42:16 PT
NPR: California Sniffs Out Marijuana Tax Revenues
 By Scott Shafer Day to Day, April 25, 2007 · California approved its medical marijuana law a decade ago, and today about 200 pot dispensaries offer the drug to patients with a doctor's prescription. Now the state is focusing on these marijuana distribution centers as a new source of sales tax revenue. Scott Shafer reports from member station KQED in San Francisco.http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9818826&ft=1&f=1003
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