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Cops Dead Set Against Dope
Posted by CN Staff on November 03, 2006 at 20:34:06 PT
By J.K. Perry, Staff Writer
Source: Vail Daily
Eagle County, CO -- Valley law enforcement officials are firmly against a ballot amendment that would legalize small amounts of marijuana. Amendment 44 legalizes possession of up to an ounce of marijuana. Possession of less than an ounce of marijuana is currently a statewide petty offense punishable by a $100 fine. Only in Denver is possession up to an ounce legal because voters there passed Initiative 100 in the last election.
Safer Alternative For Enjoyable Recreation, or SAFER, supports the amendment because marijuana would be a legal alternative to drinking alcohol, said Mason Tvert, campaign director for SAFER. Whereas several people die each year from alcohol overdose, no such deaths have occurred because of marijuana, Tvert said. But some law enforcement officials disagree with the alcohol-marijuana argument.“The only safe alternative is not drinking,” Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy said.The main argument made by law enforcement officials against the amendment rests with children. Passage of the amendment sends the wrong message to kids after years of telling them cigarettes, drinking and marijuana are dangerous, Hoy said.“Why now are we going to turn around and say marijuana is not (dangerous),” Hoy said.Tvert balks at the notion Amendment 44 means an increase in marijuana use by minors when 86 percent of high school seniors said marijuana is “fairly easy” or “very easy” to get, according to a University of Michigan study.“Young people are looking to rage against the machine and when there’s no law there’s no reason to defy it,” Tvert said. “When they’re the ones we’re trying to keep marijuana from and they can get it the most easily, it’s failed policy.”Beyond minors, Avon police chief Brian Kozak said if the amendment passes, the number of smokers will increase and thus marijuana-related traffic accidents will increase.“My biggest fear is that it will create a more hazardous situation on our streets,” Kozak said.Kozak said a Tilburg University study found marijuana use tripled among 18- to 21-year-olds when the Netherlands legalized marijuana use. Amendment 44 does not give minors license to possess or smoke marijuana. The driving issue also concerns Gypsum resident Luis Leal. He said he won’t vote for the amendment because he doesn’t want people driving while high on marijuana.“It’s not ever going to pass,” Leal said. “Who wants to have people driving on that stuff?”Voters David Gutowski said he was opposed to the amendment because it might open the flood gate for drugs to be used or legalized. Gutowski said he doesn’t see the harm in smoking marijuana, but he worries what might happen if the amendment passes.“If you condone that, where do you draw the line,” Gutowski said. “Down the road an eight ball will be OK.”If Australian Barry Robinson could vote, he said he’d vote for Amendment 44.“I don’t use drugs and never have, but if someone else wants to I couldn’t care less,” Robinson said. “My feeling is as long as they keep it out the workplace and in their own personal space (it’s OK).”Vail, ColoradoNote: Supporters say laws don’t stop pot use; cops worry about people driving high.Source: Vail Daily (CO)Author: J.K. Perry, Staff WriterPublished: November 1, 2006Copyright: 2006 Vail DailyContact: editor vaildaily.comWebsite: http://www.vaildaily.com/ Related Articles & Web Sites:Safer Choicehttp://www.saferchoice.org/Safer Coloradohttp://www.safercolorado.org/Amendment Would Legalize Marijuana Possessionhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22352.shtmlAmend. 44 Step Toward Clear-Headed Drug Policy http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22351.shtmlBig Moment for Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22348.shtml
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on November 05, 2006 at 08:09:24 PT
jasgrave333
Very nice pictures. I wish you and your wife a wonderful future.
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Comment #48 posted by jasgrave333 on November 05, 2006 at 06:47:36 PT:
Divinely stated FoM :D #33 
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 15:08:36 PT 
jasgrave333 
Thank you for the birthday wishes and I love this page. You and your wife are so cute.
http://whoopwhoopsworld.blogspot.com/
":)Did ya see these; http://gorgeous-wedding-pics-may-28th-2005.blogspot.com/I was chewing Cannabis during my wedding week as opposed to smoking it. Curacao (Caribbean) although a dutch island, is still one of those ruled by the fascist Cannabis laws.Working toward world Cannabis - freedom - for all!
Profile of a "pot-head": 333
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on November 05, 2006 at 06:37:13 PT
Toker00
Thank you. I'll try to live for a long, long time.
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Comment #46 posted by Toker00 on November 05, 2006 at 02:56:15 PT
Happy belated...
...Birthday to both of you. And don't you ever die.Toke.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 16:28:00 PT
Truth
Thank you! 
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Comment #44 posted by Truth on November 04, 2006 at 16:27:18 PT
Happy Birthday
to the ladies....
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 16:27:02 PT
Mayan
I'll try. I was so disappointed when Kerry didn't win in 04 that I am preparing myself for the worst because I can't handle being let down like that again.
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Comment #42 posted by mayan on November 04, 2006 at 16:21:50 PT
FoM
Why don't you think 44 will pass? Is it because of what Kubby said? I don't see what the big deal is, myself. It's the prohibitionists who would take the medicine away from the folks that it is literally keeping alive. Kubby might hope the prohibitionists die but the prohibitionists are making sure that we DO die! Don't listen to the polls. There are tens of thousands of college kids who don't get polled because they don't have land-lines and they will be voting in record numbers because they don't want to get drafted by the neo-con war machine. They overwhelmingly support 44. The electronic voting machines are the only threat to 44's passage. Please have some optimism.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 16:16:39 PT
Hope
Thank you. It was a good day. I don't like shopping but I was able to pick out rugs for my kitchen floor. They look very nice. 
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 16:14:05 PT
Hope
I am not sure. I know that every scandal and every misspoken word is getting used by the powers that be against us or on issues they are against. I never saw this amount of hate happening in an election. It was really bad in 04 though too.
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Comment #39 posted by Hope on November 04, 2006 at 16:06:38 PT
FoM  "A good day for us..."
That's wonderful.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on November 04, 2006 at 16:05:54 PT
Comment 10
We aren't going to make it to the top this time, either?I'm sad.But I'll live and I'll keep complaining...God willing.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 15:53:10 PT
Hope
Thank you. It has been a good day for us. 
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 15:52:03 PT
Hope
The polls are not in favor of 44 but  it sure didn't help.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on November 04, 2006 at 15:51:03 PT
Happy Birthday, FoM and Mrs. Whig!
Keep on keeping on!
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on November 04, 2006 at 15:49:50 PT
I don't understand....But I'm alarmed.
You think Steve Kubby's behavior has lost the election in Colorado?
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 15:08:36 PT
jasgrave333 
Thank you for the birthday wishes and I love this page. You and your wife are so cute.http://whoopwhoopsworld.blogspot.com/
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Comment #32 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 15:03:40 PT
And on the tenth day...
http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/let-there-be-love/
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Comment #31 posted by jasgrave333 on November 04, 2006 at 14:47:22 PT:
Exactly! all about the One Love...
...that embodiment of agape truth; did what he had to do!As Gandhi 1ce said; "...be the change you want to see".If you live by the key-board and word, then the only thing that will kill you is a bad back-up or heavy dictionary.Peace to all... [hifff...]Cops are sold into a job and pension.Who wouldn't rather live on a tropical beach, sipping beer and toke over truth-ful spiritual words...The government is def at fault here. Propoganda to the extreme over Cannabis. It does need to stop, a good messenger might just give the public the angle they need for the rest...? hmmmm tinking...
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Comment #30 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 14:34:03 PT
jasgrave333
Even Jesus was human enough to crucify. Nobody needs to get back up on that cross. Live and let live, and seek peace with one another, and we will.
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Comment #29 posted by jasgrave333 on November 04, 2006 at 14:27:05 PT:
youtube - google - blogging - video... 
Ya I hear you Whig;"
Well speaking for myself I wouldn't want to be too much in the public eye. I've already got fans that make me uncomfortable. Look what happened to John Lennon.
"Dat true, freaking nutters out there... but that's why da internet was invented... but seriously, your right!CIA and all, have more than a vested interest to see Cannabis go the way of a DoDo... after all $$$'s speak louder than dead men......Jesus didn't die of Lung Cancer or Liver failure at 33 years of age...It was no accident!...your point is well stated. Obviously the messenger is often vulnerable; John Lennon, JFK etc etc - RIP However it's got to be told; this time with for-sight, as to the naughty nature of the eejits currently at the reigns of power.I'll take interviews from St Kitt's :)Peace an ting 1 love
The place to receive the message...
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Comment #28 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 14:12:19 PT
jasgrave333
Well speaking for myself I wouldn't want to be too much in the public eye. I've already got fans that make me uncomfortable. Look what happened to John Lennon.
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Comment #27 posted by jasgrave333 on November 04, 2006 at 13:48:59 PT:
A perfect Cannabis role-model...?
Whig;"
...and so it's all about engaging the political/social process not just informing.
"What about the messenger?What about finding the best Cannabis consuming role model, putting him forward as spokes-person for the plant; perhaps the cannabis internet *world*?Just a thought... 
My Cannabis Role Model Self...!
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Comment #26 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:43:37 PT
FoM
When I said everyone promotes sometimes I didn't mean that in a selfish way at all. You promote your ideals in everything you do, the way you care about everyone.
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Comment #25 posted by jasgrave333 on November 04, 2006 at 13:40:56 PT:
That's his biggest 'fear'...
He said what?"
“My biggest fear is that it will create a more hazardous situation on our streets,” Kozak said
"I mean, come on... Katrina, Iraq War errrm WW3... 
 
...these "people" in charge of this "situation"; need help!(Happy birthday btw...)Cannabis for-ever... [hifff...]
legalise it.... JaSon will advertise it....
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Comment #24 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:40:41 PT
FoM
I know and you have your opinions which you are allowed to express and certainly should feel free to do so in your own home which this board is. You don't let it get in the way of informing people what is happening in the cannabis community, and if not everyone who reads the news articles likes the conversation, they don't have to read or participate. But that's just how I feel, and I don't mean to say you have to agree.Cannablog is kind of different because it's my POV right out on the front of it, and so it's all about engaging the political/social process not just informing.
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:39:05 PT
Whig
I understand what you mean. I don't want to promote myself at all. I want to be a good moderator and friend to people on CNews. We've been thru a lot together. Tom and Rollie and even 9/11. I only want the laws to be change concerning cannabis so people don't wind up in jail like Jerry.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:36:04 PT
Whig
I do my best to not post articles that are pushing a political party. 
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Comment #21 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:35:57 PT
Confession
I can't be hypocritical about this, so I have to say that I promote myself sometimes and everyone does, but I try not to do so to the detriment of others, and I try to be considerate of their needs and desires. Everyone should be able to get what they are trying to achieve, for themselves, but nobody should prevent others who want good things from achieving what they want. I hope that makes sense to you.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:34:24 PT
Whig
That's true. I look to see big difference in the polls before I have hope. Neil Young sang that we need a clear win to regain confidence and I agree. I need double digits separations in the polls before I stop worrying.
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Comment #19 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:32:49 PT
Another thing
Match wavelength with your audience. Seriously, I can't get completely baked and go talk to a sober crowd. What the heck is he thinking? He's self-promoting I think. He's running for president and so he wants to be out in front of the parade.
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Comment #18 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:28:52 PT
FoM
The "good news" is that the vote outcome might be doubted no matter what happens given the amount of Diebold electronic voting in Colorado.
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:25:25 PT
Whig
Tell her thank you.
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Comment #16 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:17:46 PT
FoM
My wife says happy birthday to you.
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Comment #15 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:17:05 PT
FoM
I knew Steve was going to Colorado, he was at the CAN festival last weekend and talked about it. I didn't think to question that he knew what he was doing and had been invited.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:16:47 PT
Mrs. Whig
Happy Birthday to youHappy Birthday to youHappy Birthday Mrs. WhigHappy Birthday to you!
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:15:28 PT
Whig
I don't know why he did it. I really can't tell you how bad I feel for Mason. He must be crushed. 
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Comment #12 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:14:07 PT
FoM
Happy Birthday!Today is also my wife's birthday!
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Comment #11 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:13:43 PT
And then...
Swearing at the government when you're trying to talk to voters.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:12:58 PT
whig
Today is my birthday and we only got back from shopping a little while ago and I was in a good mood and then read that article and my heart sank. We were so close to wininng. 
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Comment #9 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:12:37 PT
FoM
What really roasts me about this is that Steve didn't coordinate with the SAFER people. I mean, how could he not do that?
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Comment #8 posted by whig on November 04, 2006 at 13:10:08 PT
Steve Kubby
I really believe that outsiders cannot go into a place and talk as if you ought to be listened to. Unless you become part of the community where you are, you cannot know what that community thinks and needs to hear.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 13:06:00 PT
Just a Comment
I couldn't bring myself to post this article. I posted it with the link. I feel so very sorry for Mason and all his hard work. I believe now that there is no way that Colorado will win.
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 04, 2006 at 12:15:19 PT
Candidate Pokes Pot Prohibitionists
http://tinyurl.com/y8takc
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Comment #5 posted by Toker00 on November 04, 2006 at 06:05:45 PT
I say yes, you say no...
“Why now are we going to turn around and say marijuana is not (dangerous),” Hoy said.It's called finally telling the truth about Cannabis, you dummy! You've lied for years, now it's time to admit it, suffer defeat, take it like Man, and tell the TRUTH!“The only safe alternative is not drinking,” Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy said.Hey. That is not even an alternative! That is saying you don't WANT a SAFER alternative! It's always ALLcohol or NOTHING with you people, isn't it?! The same with medicine. You insist we stay with ONE thing, NO alternative to Pharma-poisons. We say Peace, you say War. We say Heal, you say Harm. We say Natural, you say FrankenMeds. We say Educate, you say Teach to Hate. We say regulate, we say incarcerate. And on and on...“My biggest fear is that it will create a more hazardous situation on our streets,” Kozak said.It will. For the Cops. They will then have to concentrate on real crime, which can be much more violent than chasing Cannaheads. Legalize Cannabis and take a Bite Outa' Crime!Today is a bright sunny day. I am headed down to the Lone Star Rally on Galveston Island. Acres and Acres of Harleys and various other Motors. It's crisp cool outside, and I will grab a pile of Veterans for 911 Truth flyers as I walk out the door.Have a Great Weekend! Peace and Love!Wage Peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #4 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 21:38:52 PT
Should have referenced #1
That was a reply to the "pot plant interview."
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Comment #3 posted by whig on November 03, 2006 at 21:37:19 PT
Ahem
We don't need low-THC hemp. Good cannabis is better for industry too. The THC acts as a pest repellant making it unnecessary to use pesticides. The quality of the product is higher, and the parts of the plant apart from the flowering tops are not potent anyhow. Just clip those tops and give them to medical users.
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Comment #2 posted by ekim on November 03, 2006 at 21:26:37 PT
who will interview Bill Masters??
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Sheriff Bill Masters
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Telluride, San Miguel County, Colorado
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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on November 03, 2006 at 21:22:59 PT
Pot Plant: INTERVIEW
US CA: Column: A Friend In Weedhttp://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n1483/a03.html?397
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