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Marijuana Propaganda 
Posted by CN Staff on October 11, 2006 at 09:47:17 PT
By Joshua Roberts, Daily Press Writer 
Source: Craig Daily Press
Colorado -- The campaign director for a Denver-based group leading the charge for pro-marijuana legislation said his organization "anxiously" awaits the response from a local drug task force that may have violated state campaign laws. So far, that response hasn't come."Our response to that is a 'no comment,'" said Dusty Schulze, task force commander of the Greater Routt and Moffat Narcotics Enforcement Team.
In late September, GRAMNET released a statement urging residents to vote against Amendment 44 -- a question on the November general election ballot that, if approved, would legalize the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for anyone 21 or older. The eight-page release, which included information titled "The Truth about Marijuana," was attributed to eight officials in Moffat and Routt counties, including the sheriffs from both counties and the district attorney, who prosecutes cases in both counties.On Friday, the Alcohol-Marijuana Equalization Initiative committee, a branch of the group Safer Alternative for Enjoyable Recreation, filed an open records request with GRAMNET. The group is trying to learn whether the drug task force broke state law by spending more than $50 preparing and distributing the release."It's against the law," said Mason Tvert, a campaign director for SAFER. "When the police break the law, it's a big deal. ... And I would think our government using our tax dollars to break the law is a big deal."Schulze said attorneys for GRAMNET would review the request before moving forward. The agency is composed of Moffat and Routt counties' law enforcement agencies.SAFER contends that GRAMNET may have violated the Colorado Fair Campaign Practices Act, which prohibits state or local government from making campaign contributions to an issue committee advocating passage or defeat of a ballot initiative. "Putting together such extensive materials must have taken many, many hours," Tvert said on Friday. "Based on the response to our records request -- along with any other information we receive in the meantime about GRAMNET's involvement in the campaign -- we will determine whether to bring this case before the Secretary of State."The committee's request for information, filed under the Colorado Open Records Act, seeks access to all writings, public records and criminal records relating to GRAMNET's press release urging opposition to Amendment 44.The request also seeks annual or hourly salary information for those who drafted, signed, reviewed or spent time working on the release. It also asks that the materials sought be made available as soon as possible.As of Tuesday afternoon, SAFER had not received any of the information requested, Tvert said.Robert J. Corry, a Denver attorney representing the SAFER committee, said GRAMNET has three days to respond to the request. He said the committee would move forward with litigation if it does not have a response to the request by today.Polling information suggests the November vote on Amendment 44 may be a close one. According to a poll released in late September by Survey USA, which gauged 532 likely Colorado voters, there are still a large number of undecided voters.According to the poll, 29 percent of voters said they would vote in favor of the amendment, versus 36 percent in opposition; 35 percent said they were uncertain.Proponents of Amendment 44 say the proposed legislation's aim is to stimulate debate, educate the public and free adults from the risk of breaking the law for a relatively harmless activity -- using marijuana. They also said that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and adult possession should be treated the same under the law.Opponents contend that the measure hinders both law enforcement and families, provides a gateway to more serious drug abuse and gives drug dealers access to youths. They also say that marijuana is a dangerous and addictive drug.Note: Amendment 44 backers seek GRAMNET records.  Newshawk: Paul ArmentanoSource: Craig Daily Press, The (CO)Author: Joshua Roberts, Daily Press Writer Published: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 Copyright: 2006 The Craig Daily PressContact: http://tinyurl.com/lwqgwWebsite: http://www.craigdailypress.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Safer Choicehttp://www.saferchoice.org/A Vote To Legalize Marijuana is a Vote for Choicehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22259.shtmlHippie-Hating and Baitinghttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22244.shtml Adults Should Be Allowed To Choosehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22225.shtml 
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Comment #30 posted by whig on November 06, 2006 at 21:59:02 PT
Typos
Sorry, not worth fixing.
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Comment #29 posted by whig on November 06, 2006 at 21:58:35 PT
Dankhank
I hope not to offend you so deeply.I don't know what Greg Lake might have said and won't ask you to dredge up old memories, except that I am curious if this is the same Greg Lake of ELP?(He of the worst rock music lyric of all time, "Every day a little sadder. A little madders. Someone get me a ladder,")
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Comment #28 posted by Dankhank on November 06, 2006 at 21:37:10 PT
what you said?
what could you say to equal the acquiesce of Cat saying he would aid in the death of a writer or suggest that mass media made up the stories of women and their plight in afghanistan?and, yes if what you said was egregious enough I would shun you.Years ago I was insulted in this venue by Greg Lake who ran like a dog when I challenged him to pick which of the three probable appellations he chose for me.Since then, I have routinely deleted any and all emails that arrive bearing his name.
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Comment #27 posted by museman on October 12, 2006 at 16:34:19 PT
whig
Well, I'm still not impressed. Any time a public figure wants to look good, they align themselves with some status-quo-government-acceptable 'charity' which usually amounts to employment for the idle rich, and a low percentage of funds raised actually going to any real people in need.Bono is in the same parade I see Bush in, and my feelings towards Bush, Bono, most republicrats, democrans, and right-wing-born-again false spritists is complete abhorence and disgust. I regret my human relationship to these, and though I may forgive their errors-when they admit them-, in the meantime they could disappear, and I would be relieved. I could never listen to another U2 song I don't think, even if Bono got down on his knees on prime time TV, and apologized. Forgive yes, give credibility to? Not a chance.
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Comment #26 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 15:57:09 PT
museman
On the other hand, Bono and U2 did help raise money for New Orleans and a lot of worthy causes. He may be an imperfect vessel, and he may make alliances you would not, but I would not condemn him either.
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Comment #25 posted by museman on October 12, 2006 at 14:52:02 PT
music speaking
Cat Stevens wrote some damn good songs, and in his defence I wouldn't compare his defence of his religion with another artist who I used to admire - Bono of U2. Cat Stevens left America, left his income-generating music career, to follow his beliefs. He stayed out of the limelight, and the economics and politics for many years. Recently he has tried to return, recanting his association with fanatical Islam Fundamentalists.Bono, on the other hand is responsible for (rendering if not authoring) such phenomenal piecs as "In The Name Of Love" -to scratch the surface. I used to listen to them all the time.Then came 9/11. His and the bands numerous political and musical endorsements of the current power regime was a sickening display of kissing the ass of power for a few dollars more. I can no longer stand their music as is literally stinks of hypocrisy and deception.Usually I would say that 'the muscic speaks for itself' a sufficient, and acceptable advice, but Bono proves to me that actions do indeed speak louder than words in the case of ones abuse of power -like Bono, Bush, and all those born-again fat-cats in their limosine fantasy.
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Comment #24 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 13:25:59 PT
Dankhank
If I said something to offend you, would you stop forever listening to me?
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Comment #23 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 13:20:58 PT
Dankhank
The music speaks for itself. You should not condemn so quickly.
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Comment #22 posted by Dankhank on October 12, 2006 at 08:02:28 PT
Cat Stevens
made a lot of money from rock and roll or whatever he calls his music ...He then converted to Islam and became a hater.He was quoted as saying he would likely tell assassins where Salmon Rushdie was located, if he knew, if they came asking him.He once stated that stories of abuse of women in Afghanistan were likely lies of major media and not true.It's a shame ... since I liked some of his stuff. I will not listen to him anymore.
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Comment #21 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 02:15:17 PT
Music for morning
http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2006/10/12/good-morning/
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Comment #20 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 02:11:39 PT
John Bush
Now that North Korea has backed him down, he's done.
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Comment #19 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 02:06:56 PT
George Bush
I just thought I'd fill in another detail, so you know what to expect. George Bush really is going to be a very good angel when he figures out what he's done and stops. He has a lot of penance to do. We all do.
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Comment #18 posted by whig on October 12, 2006 at 02:03:29 PT
John the Revelator
All I can say to you is that there are seven angels out here presumably doing whatever it is we're doing right now. And I think we're beyond the point of any doubt, this is over but for the turning of the season.Did you know that this is the Galactic equinox coming up?
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on October 11, 2006 at 20:24:28 PT
Related News from KKTV
Amendment Could Legalize Marijuana In Colorado Should Marijuana be Legal? Video Link: http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/4378146.htmlBy Katherine CookWould legalizing marijuana in Colorado make our state safer? Supporters of Amendment 44 say yes. If passed, the amendment would allow adults 21 and older to legally possess up to an ounce of marijuana at a time. Supporters of Amendment 44 are using the campaign slogan, "The Safest Thing In The World," in reference to marijuana, denying claims by opponents that it is a gateway drug. Campaign Manager Mason Tvert says the only thing that makes pot a gateway drug is its illegal status."We're forcing otherwise law-abiding citizens into an illegal market where they find illegal drugs," said Tvert.But Drug Czar John Walters says legal or illegal, marijuana is and always will be part of a deadly and destructive business."The same mafias that kill people on the boarder and slaughter judges and prosecutors in Mexico make the bulk of their money on marijuana sold here in the US," said Walters.Walters was in Southern Colorado Wednesday to speak out against Amendment 44. Unlike past efforts to legalize marijuana for medical reasons, supporters of Amendment 44 aim to legalize the drug purely for recreational use, with the goal of reducing the consumption of alcohol-- a drug Tvert says is much more dangerous than marijuana."If adults who use alcohol use marijuana instead, there would be fewer cases of domestic violence, over-doses, death and so on," said Tvert.Walters disagrees."It (Amendment 44) suggests we can decrease the real effects of alcohol by having greater harms from marijuana," said Tvert. "That's ludicrous."Opponents of Amendment 44 say the initiative would also allow those over 21 to give marijuana to kids as young as 15. However Tvert says that is misinformation and not true. Copyright: 2002-2006 Gray Television Group, Inc. 
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Comment #16 posted by mayan on October 11, 2006 at 17:49:01 PT
Mason Strikes Again
He is going right after the character,honesty and integrity of the prohibitionist forces! They have made a big,big mistake and given Mason and SAFER plenty of ammunition with which to totally destroy the credibility of the anti-44 fascists! And Mason sure knows how to keep this issue in the news, doesn't he? I knew the prohibitionists would have their hands full if they wanted to engage in a propaganda war with him but the way it's going 44 will pass with flying colors!The prohibitionists are simply being out-classed!
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on October 11, 2006 at 14:54:19 PT
Dankhank
I'm different then you in that I avoid and change the channel if Bush is on TV. I don't want to see him more then I have to. 
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Comment #14 posted by Dankhank on October 11, 2006 at 13:57:28 PT
found the link
here on CN, I think ...kudus to who posted it here before ...I've been watching it for a couple of weeks, now ...daily ...likely more than once ...
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Comment #13 posted by Dankhank on October 11, 2006 at 13:54:35 PT
John the Revelator ...
the unofficial video, is awesome.I find that when I see Bush talking on the tube, a dose of "revelator" washes the distaste from my mouth
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on October 11, 2006 at 13:25:46 PT
Dankhank
I just watched it. My that was good. Amazing stuff people are coming up with these days.
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Comment #11 posted by Dankhank on October 11, 2006 at 13:09:14 PT
just found out ...
when checking the link, it is a FFox link and IE won't find it ...anyone not have FFox?here's an IE linkhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=filefactory+john+the+revelator&btnG=Google+Search
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Comment #10 posted by Dankhank on October 11, 2006 at 13:03:53 PT
hatch act
let's go get the prohibs, leave them no place to hidelightly OT ...I downloaded a copy of the "John the Revelator" video, done by "ViolatoroftheRegime" a few minutes ago ... .mov file, that runs with QT or VLC.Nice to have, 35M, that is now on a thumbdrive that I keep with me at all times with other juicy tidbits to share with friends ... or even load on demo computers at stores, startup and step back.I have done that with Neil's "Keep on Rocking' in the Free World" more than a few times ...I found it at the filefactory, but guess I'm blocked out by IP from getting another copy, I don't need one, just trying to retrace my steps for anyone who wants a copy for themselves to share ...http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=filefactory+john+the+revelator&btnG=Google+Searchthis google search should get you there ...
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Comment #9 posted by whig on October 11, 2006 at 12:49:17 PT
FoM
Send them to talk to me. Seriously. I write a lot of my blog addressed to Republicans, and they should be given some view of it, if they aren't afraid.
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Comment #8 posted by kaptinemo on October 11, 2006 at 12:07:22 PT:
If true, they have violated the Hatch Act
And this time, against a local group, the charges could stick. Which could make things very hot, indeed, for other local police task forces around the country contemplating other self-serving actions. Actions such as politicking for something that directly benefits them at the taxpayer's expense, with the taxpayer's money, seeking to interfere in the democratic process as they do so. If just one such lawsuit draws financial blood, then a precedent will have been set. A precedent the prohibs are terrified of ever being established... 
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Comment #7 posted by lombar on October 11, 2006 at 12:06:41 PT
Considering the title of the original article:
 'Psychotic' reaction to drugs led soldier to kill with garden shearspsychotic reaction to home-grown cannabis was jailed yesterday for ten years.Laurie Draper, 31, “beat the brains out” of Paul Butterworth, a teacher, by repeatedly smashing 3ft garden shears into his head and body. {clipped}
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,29389-2396424,00.htmlThey are really trying to pin everything they can on cannabis. Too bad the only thing it is doing is confirming that the MSM is a propananda tool, they have failed in their task of bringing facts to the electorate so they (we) can make informed decisions. Instead it is used for social engineering and fearmongering to convince people to surrender their rights. In short, mainstream newspapers are not even worthy of lining a bird cage.
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on October 11, 2006 at 11:59:32 PT
Off Topic: Live Video of Plane Crash in New York
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=nation_world&id=3628116
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Comment #5 posted by freewillks on October 11, 2006 at 11:37:19 PT
 paul armentano 
6.6 pounds. could have paid 6 to 8 grand in cash and removed that much from the streets. 
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Comment #4 posted by paul armentano on October 11, 2006 at 11:00:24 PT
More on GRAMNET
In the presentation to county commissioners, GRAMNET representatives reported the task force has made more than 50 drug-related arrests in the 2003-04 fiscal year. Those arrests happened in Grand, Routt, Moffat and Jackson counties.Of those arrests, 24 related to marijuana, 18 related to methamphetamines, seven related to cocaine, and four related to other drugs.It was not specified whether those arrests were for misdemeanor possession or more serious charges.Also during that period, GRAMNET got thousands of grams of drugs off the streets. Removing drugs can happen through seizing or buying them.Almost 3,000 grams of marijuana were removed, about 2,000 grams of cocaine were removed, and almost 2,000 grams of meth were removed.GRAMNET's budget for that period was about $450,000
http://www2.steamboatpilot.com/news/2005/apr/16/commissioners_crunch_gramnet/
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Comment #3 posted by observer on October 11, 2006 at 10:37:59 PT
Mightly Selective about The ''Law''
the response from a local drug task force that may have violated state campaign laws. So far, that response hasn't come. "Our response to that is a 'no comment,'" said Dusty Schulze, task force commanderSchulze, he knows, "Nothing, nothing!" Because for all of Officer Friendly's pious claptrap about "the law", when it comes right down to it, Officer Friendly there will break "the law" faster than you can can say, "Y'a pas plus menteur qu'une police."Yeah, we can see how much these police henchmen care about their most worshipful "law". The only "laws" they give a fig about are "laws" that let Officer Friendly bash your head with a nightstick for talking back to him, before stealing your money and freedom - all because you smoked marijuana. We can sure see how much Officer Friendly cares about "law", alright. 
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on October 11, 2006 at 10:37:48 PT
museman
That's so true. I feel sorry for my husband these days. I am very angry. I'm angry because I hoped that as we approached retirement that the USA would be a more understanding country. I have a hard time even talking to anyone who is a Republican and I'm talking about people in my own family. It's God, Guns and Jesus is coming so kill em all because they are the bad guys and then Jesus will come and take us out of this vile world. What a mentality to try to reason with.
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Comment #1 posted by museman on October 11, 2006 at 10:33:01 PT
Juggernaut
Q: Where does a thousand pound gorilla sleep?A: Wherever it wants to.We got the guns, and 'It's the LAW.'
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