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  Man Contests Pot Bust

Posted by CN Staff on March 24, 2006 at 07:46:34 PT
By Alan Gathright, Rocky Mountain News  
Source: Rocky Mountain News  

Colorado -- An HIV-positive man who says he uses pot to combat nausea from powerful antiviral drugs is the second Denver defendant to challenge a pot possession bust under state law since voters changed the city's marijuana statutes in November. David "Damien" La Goy, 46, a Capitol Hill resident who voted for Initiative 100, which legalized the possession and private use of small amounts of marijuana by adults, said that when he's arraigned in a Denver court this morning, he'll ask for a jury trial.
"The city is not listening to the voters," said La Goy, whose HIV infection and its debilitating treatment have reduced his 5-foot-8 frame to 113 pounds. "To be quite honest with you, I threw up this morning, and my health has to come first," he said, pointing out that smoking marijuana helps with his nausea. "I'd hoped (the passage of I-100) had settled this issue once and for all, but it hasn't." La Goy is not registered under Colorado's 5-year-old medical marijuana law and does not plan to use his condition in his defense. In January, Denver dropped the prosecution of marijuana advocates' first test case, against Eric Footer, 39, who said he thought the voter-approved measure made it legal for him to use pot for back pain. A city prosecutor said he dismissed the case because he was worried that police officers would have trouble showing sufficient probable cause to justify the search of Footer's car, where the marijuana was found. Yet, attorney Brian Vicente, who defended Footer and is representing La Goy for free, said the city had no legal reason to drop the first case because Footer agreed to the vehicle search. Vicente, who heads the marijuana legalization group Sensible Colorado, thinks city officials were wary of taking on the Footer case so soon after voters approved I-100. But Kathy Sasak, assistant director of the city attorney's prosecution unit, said her team will be arraigning more than a dozen marijuana possession cases today. "We will continue to prosecute them under the state statute," she said. "We'll analyze each case on its facts." Under state law, possession of less than an ounce of marijuana is a petty offense, akin to a traffic ticket. Violators face about $240 in fines and court costs. La Goy said he was busted on the evening of March 3 at a friend's Capitol Hill apartment when Denver police arrived to investigate the friend on an unrelated probation issue and found La Goy's baggie of marijuana on the living room floor. "My friend tried to take the blame by saying it was his. And I said, 'No. You don't lie to the police. It's mine,' " La Goy recounted at a neighborhood coffee shop. With him Thursday were Vicente and Mason Tvert, campaign director for Safer Alternative for Enjoyable Recreation - or SAFER - the group that spearheaded the I-100 campaign. SAFER is now gathering signatures to place a statewide measure on the November ballot to make it legal for people 21 or older to possess 1 ounce or less of pot. La Goy said one officer asked his partner, "Do we really want to mess with him on the pot" or just "take care of what we were called for?" But the investigating officer ignored the suggestion. "I told him I'm HIV (positive) and he said: 'Well, is that any excuse to smoke pot?' " La Goy recalled. "According to 57 percent of Colorado voters, it is," Tvert chimed in during Thursday's interview, referring to the passage of a medical marijuana initiative in 2000 allowing the sick to use the drug with a doctor's written approval. "It is just a gross example of the police wasting taxpayer dollars pursuing individuals like Mr. La Goy, who is very ill, in direct violation of the recent vote by Denver voters," said Vicente, the defense attorney.Note: HIV victim says passage of initiative legalized possession.Source: Rocky Mountain News (Denver, CO)Author: Alan Gathright, Rocky Mountain News Published: March 24, 2006Copyright: 2006, Denver Publishing Co.Contact: letters rockymountainnews.comWebsite: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Safer Choicehttp://www.saferchoice.org/SAFER Pushing To Legalize Marijuana Statewidehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21638.shtmlPot Advocates Push Statewide Legalizationhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21462.shtmlState Initiative Next Step for Marijuana Backershttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21421.shtml 

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Comment #151 posted by Hope on March 27, 2006 at 13:29:39 PT
My gentle giant almost got expelled from
college once.He pretty much wrecked a portion of the cafeteria.Someone thought, knowing of his arachnaphobic tendencies, that it would be funny to put a big rubber spider on his lunch tray when he looked away.At one time....though he would climb the highest heights to rescue someone...or swim the deepest depths...he would run over you and your children and your pets and all you own...no matter how delicate or rare...if someone of you discovered a spider in your shoe and wanted to show it to him.
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Comment #150 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 10:53:08 PT
Hope
That's a funny story. I do think that very big men learn to watch what they carry and how they act. Even a big BOO can scare someone much smaller. Most big dogs are gentle too.
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Comment #149 posted by Hope on March 27, 2006 at 10:51:53 PT
"Spontaneous" might be the word....
People who are exceptionally spontaneous, don't need to bear arms of any sort...usually.(Congratulations, FoM...glad you put a Republican on the right track.)
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Comment #148 posted by Hope on March 27, 2006 at 10:49:32 PT
My son won't carry one either...
Even though he was told he could and should during those years he was a bouncer. He's had guns and knives pulled on him. He's had people use vehicles as weapons agains him. He survived it all...Thank God.We gave him his first real little pocket knife when he was five or six and he stabbed his giant teddy bear during a mock wrestling match. Had to take back the knife. Gave him his first hatchet and he nearly chopped the wood shed down. Gave him his first real gun when he was about 16 and he shot holes in some of his little brother's trucks and his red wagon. So we had to take his gun back. He's a bit too free and easy going to be carrying an armament of any kind.He's going on forty now. Maybe when he's about fifty he will be mature enough for responsible gun ownership.
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Comment #147 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 10:40:51 PT
Gentle Giants
Our friend doesn't believe in guns. In a way it is good because if he did tote a gun he would look so threatening that someone might shoot him just because he would look so scary.
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Comment #146 posted by Hope on March 27, 2006 at 10:35:42 PT
Meeting some of his friends after he's grown...
Some of them look at me so peculiarly and with their mouths sort of hanging open like they are trying to figure out how I had such a huge son. I finally told one of them, "He was normal size when he was born" or "He wasn't this big when he was born!"He outgrew me by the time he was twelve years old...but he's still my baby boy and always will be.
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Comment #145 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 10:35:23 PT
Hope
When I hugged him I couldn't get my arms totally around him. He said don't worry about me getting your cold. You are way down there and I am way up here. It was funny.
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Comment #144 posted by Had Enough on March 27, 2006 at 10:35:22 PT
More Gentle Giant
I've seen this friend I mentioned take on three medium sized men at one time who wanted to screw with him. And he prevailed in a matter of minutes if not seconds. These three thought that if they took on the biggest guy in the place, they would be cool. My friend was a target. It started out with one guy, and then his buddies tried to cover each other’s back. Like I said, It started in seconds, and over with in just about the same amount of time. Those three left the place beat up and bloodied, and as far as I know, they never returned. My friend and I have a very special connection. He is very mellow, until you piss him off, and make him take a stand.
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Comment #143 posted by Hope on March 27, 2006 at 10:30:12 PT
Hey! Big Man! How's it going? :0)
They do get noticed! One of my sons is one of the gentle giants. 
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Comment #142 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 10:21:30 PT
Had Enough 
I agree with you. I have never seen our friend seriously angry. He could sure hurt someone with one punch. 
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Comment #141 posted by Had Enough on March 27, 2006 at 10:10:33 PT
Gentle Giants
I have a few friends that are of large sized frames. These people a very gentile, until you ruffle their feathers. And it takes quite a bit to do that too. At one time, I was talking with this one rather large friend at one of the local watering hole in the wall. We talked for about 45 minutes to an hour. During that time, on three occasions there was some kind of remark made to him about his large stature. After the second time he leaned over and told me that he gets sick of people commenting about his size. Within minutes the third comment came from someone just walking in the door. He said, “See what I mean, everywhere I go, this happens.”All this happened years ago. Last weekend we ran across each other, and had a few beers at yet another location, same thing, we talked for about an hour, and sure enough, people would walk by and comment to him about his size. He would just blow it off. We would look at each other and just grin after all the comments were made.I find “most” people that are very large are like “Gentle Giants” and like to avoid confrontation if at all possible, but back one of these fine fellows into a corner, and see what can happen.
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Comment #140 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 09:32:16 PT
Had Enough 
Thank you. It was so great to talk with a friend that we shared so much of our younger years with about a topic of major confusion to me. He and his wife now live in Yuma, Arizona but hope to come back to our area in a few years. His name is Chuck and I just love him. He is big but so very gentle. He works with the mentally ill. He told us a lot of things about people who are mentally ill and reasons as to why some our mentally ill. Drugging people like they do really bothers him. 
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Comment #139 posted by Had Enough on March 27, 2006 at 09:14:38 PT
Sleeping Giants
There is a large “Sleeping Giant” in America that is slowly waking up. Sometimes it’s only one at a time. But it is still one more.Way to go FoM. Congratulations on wining one more person over to the side of reason. You have woken one more Giant 6’ – 4” 260 lbs. I’d say that qualifies as a giant. :) The Knights of Cannabis are well rehearsed with truth, and do a good job. Thank you all.
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Comment #138 posted by FoM on March 27, 2006 at 08:40:08 PT

Hope
It really was a nice visit. I think what I liked most of all was actually being able to talk with a person who is a friend who voted for Bush and to figure out why. That's has always been one of those things that I just didn't understand. Our friend and his wife work long hours and he watched Fox News when he had a chance to watch the news. He said he really had no idea how bad Bush was so I am assuming that many people just didn't have access to the Internet and they were mislead. I honestly believe that many people bought the republican spin and believed they were being told the truth.PS: I keep looking but no news so far.
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Comment #137 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 22:01:33 PT

FoM
I'm glad you had a nice visit with your friend. Friends are good...and friends that get out and visit are even better.
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Comment #136 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 21:01:22 PT

runderwo
If I remember this case right the person became an activist after the bust. The person was growing them and I think they were spotted from the air.
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Comment #135 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 20:56:15 PT

Hope
We had a great visit with out friend from Arizona. We talked about everything from republicans, democrats and everything in between. We talked about race issues and pot and even Marc Emery. I thought this was funny. I said ok you are a republican and you voted for Bush and lets say I'm a democrat and I voted for Kerry why did you vote for Bush I asked him. He said because I never voted before and I am conservative. I put my hands on my hips and said well I am conservative too. Mind you he is about 6' 4", african american and about 260 lbs and I'm about 5'2" and 110 lbs and very white. I scared him and then I laughed and he laughed. He said I didn't like how Kerry acted about Vietnam. He didn't know that some of the things weren't true that were said about Kerry but he really is sorry he voted for Bush. He won't vote for a republican the next time he votes he said. We had a great visit.
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Comment #134 posted by runderwo on March 26, 2006 at 20:49:21 PT

FoM
Isn't it funny how all it takes is a little activism to paint a bulls-eye on your forehead?Hope, no problem, it is my fault for havng a funny nick ;)
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Comment #133 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 20:36:05 PT

Hope
It's a person who is or was into activism. I think the sentence was 6 months.
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Comment #132 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 20:12:20 PT

I know someone 
who got busted for it, too.
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Comment #131 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 19:54:05 PT

 runderwo
I want you to know I didn't mean you misleading anyone. I worry about people thinking that it is legal to grow an opium poppy and then go out and do it and get busted. I know one person who had this happen to her partner from California.
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Comment #130 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 19:42:28 PT

Max
Thanks, I've already replied. It's good to be able to talk about stuff off-list sometimes. I really like the openness of conversation here, and if we didn't have this we wouldn't know how to find one another, but there's a limiting point which means most of us feel we can only say so much about our personal lives and histories, and certain conversations really are meant to be between two people and not for the whole world.
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Comment #129 posted by Max Flowers on March 26, 2006 at 18:22:57 PT

whig
Yep, check your hushmail...
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Comment #128 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 18:03:06 PT

Runderwo...
Please accept my apologies. I knew there wasn't something right about it when I addressed you earlier today as Runderroo. 
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Comment #127 posted by runderwo on March 26, 2006 at 16:38:40 PT

FoM
Read this, I think it is more clear than I am:http://www.wesjones.com/pollan1.htmI guess as long as the California poppy is a different species then it is fine. But there are many different poppy species that are just renamed opium poppy, they are the same species and produce the same opiates in different quantities. They are renamed because selling opium poppy will get you a DEA visit, but not selling it under a different name.So in order not to mislead anyone like you said, I wish I could edit my post and say that growing poppies for your own garden is technically illegal but has never been enforced, unless you sell them or you write a book on extracting opium like the guy in the article did.
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Comment #126 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 12:03:50 PT

Comment 123
Wonderful!
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Comment #125 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 11:49:42 PT

Whig
We went to the web site mentioned in the video you posted. We watched the short clips. It really is remarkable what they call stoner types have created and how they have used their talent. Very impressive.http://www.animusic.com/
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Comment #124 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 11:32:12 PT

whig 
That was great. Thanks.
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Comment #123 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 11:22:19 PT

Music for FoM
Thought you'd enjoy this:http://tinyurl.com/n6auv
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Comment #122 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 10:42:37 PT

A Question
Can't different types of poppies cross pollinate? Can't the Opium poppy and the California poppy make a new type of poppy flower?
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Comment #121 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 10:41:08 PT

Pappy SOMNIverus
Just the sound ...."somni" makes me sleepy!
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Comment #120 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 10:39:02 PT

Not sure
but I think the "Flower" for August...along with the "Stone"...peridot, is the pappy somniveras!:-)That's supposedly, why we are so lazy.Learned that at a Future Homemakers of America Convention.(By the way...I made up "pappy somniveras"...but you know who I'm talking about...and I'm too laaaaaaazzzzzy to check the spelling.)

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Comment #119 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 10:35:33 PT

Jose! Thank you for Comment #32
That was so different and interesting.I like this, "....usually by the time you think you've picked up a habit, you run out."

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Comment #118 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 09:59:49 PT

The State Flower of CA
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/Wildseed/22/22.1.html
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Comment #117 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 09:58:11 PT

Hope
I think the California Poppy is their state flower.
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Comment #116 posted by Hope on March 26, 2006 at 09:52:50 PT

97...All poppies illegal?
Where's the eradication team?! This is area of Texas is simply covered in wild poppies in the Spring.But they aren't opium poppies.
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Comment #115 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 09:49:56 PT

Whig
This song would be so great to hear on radio stations once again all over the United States.Late In The Eveninghttp://tinyurl.com/hyoagSingin' late in the evening, and all the girls out on the stoops, yeahThen I learned to play some lead guitar, I was underage in this funky barAnd I stepped outside to smoke myself a JWhen I come back to the room, everybody just seemed to moveAnd I turned my amp up loud and I began to playIt was late in the evening, and I blew that room away
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Comment #114 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 09:29:15 PT

Nuevo Mexican
It's good to see you. No I didn't know that about Paul Simon. I am feeling better now thank you. I actually believe I'm gonna live today! LOL!
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Comment #113 posted by siege on March 26, 2006 at 09:24:05 PT

Want to be ""President""
Here is the FIRST to GO old billy goat ((Frist, William H.))- (R - TN)	Class I. A heart Doctor that had to leave the field from what I have read...
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Comment #112 posted by nuevo mexican on March 26, 2006 at 09:22:24 PT

Paul Simon: Scorpio! Did you know FOM?
Of course, Neil Young is a Scorpio, Bonnie Riatt is a Scorpio, Joni Mitchell is a Scorpio, it seems the best folk singers, and generally 'solo' artists' are born under the sign of 'Integrity'.They don't put up with any B,S., if its not obvious by their lyrics!I wonder what sign our fav musician here is, bud green!Glad you're feeling better FOM, I've got it now and it is NO FUN!

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Comment #111 posted by siege on March 26, 2006 at 09:08:19 PT

 poppies
The Hwy,'s 3 coming into town look like afghanistan poppie fields, and it is the older people growing them, and the DEA has said how nice they where, and bust cannabis growers... last year. you can find any where from 50Ft x50Ft to 10 acres in one place. and they just walk by like it is not there.DEA/th. 

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Comment #110 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 09:07:59 PT

FoM
Synchronicity.
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Comment #109 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 08:59:24 PT

Whig
That is the exact song that they are singing now. Cool!
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Comment #108 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 08:55:35 PT

Paul Simon
http://tinyurl.com/k3onu
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Comment #107 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 08:52:35 PT

Best Medicine
I found the best medicine this morning. I am watching Simon and Garfunkel's Concert in Central Park from many years ago. Music can make us feel so much better.
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Comment #106 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 08:44:09 PT

Max Flowers
I haven't followed what happened on 9/11 very closely but I do know that where we are now is wrong beyond measure.
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Comment #105 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 08:41:06 PT

Btw, Max
Did you get the stories in your mailbox?
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Comment #104 posted by whig on March 26, 2006 at 08:38:57 PT

Max, Sam
Don't be under the misimpression that members of Congress can be pressured to go against their corporate campaign donors. Don't expect to hold power through political organization. But with truth and love and understanding, by showing people how they can be healthier and happier in their own lives, and diminish the suffering of their loved ones, the social dynamic changes, and it is changing, and it will continue to change and shift toward support for ending cannabis prohibition.
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Comment #103 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 08:36:20 PT

runderwo
I understand what you mean but I feel it is important so we don't mislead anyone to say that most poppies can be bought (burbee seeds etc.) and grown but a couple are illegal. I remember as a child seeing the illegal kind growing in my mother's flower garden. My sister remembers that too. 
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Comment #102 posted by Max Flowers on March 26, 2006 at 08:33:09 PT

FoM - disappearing planes
To me it's getting pretty clear what happened. If you look at the cloud of smoke that was captured in a photo in PA and is supposedly from the crash of flight 93, you can see clearly that it is exactly the kind of cloud that comes from an ordnance blast (bomb or missile explosion). I saw a site yesterday that showed this, comparing it to ordnance blasts in Iraq and other places. It is *exactly* the same. There are reports of another crash event some 5 or 6 miles away in PA around the same time, but no witnesses to that one. I think the perpetrators shot down or remotely exploded Flight 93, but then fired a missile into the ground at the Shanksville site to make an "official" and diversionary crash site. If you look at the smoke cloud there, and then look at the big hole in the ground there with **no plane wreckage whatsoever** (!!), it seems obvious that they dropped ordnance there to divert attention from another crash site (the real one) where they obviously would have sealed off the site and let no one without military clearance see it.What this would mean, and what I've suspected all along, is that there are many military people who know the truth about all this mess and are, in a fairly treasonous fashion, withholding from the American people the truth about what they know. I allow them some small forgiveness though (for now!) as I suspect that they are under threat of not only military-justice reprisal, but straight-up death threats if they talk to anyone about it. However, I believe and hope that as the pressure gets cranked up further, one of them is bound to break the silence, and then this thing is going to break wide open.  I also don't believe for a second that it was the large plane that hit the Pentagon. The forensic evidence is ALL wrong. Lies and physical inconsistencies surround it. Imagine firing a full tall-boy beer can (full of gasoline, if you like) at a concrete wall with some kind of device to make it fly at it at 100 or 200 miles an hour. Even if it exploded, the wall would break it up into recognizable debris, and stop it. It would NOT deeply penetrate the concrete in a neat hole as the "plane" supposedly did! The Penatgon had insanely reinforced rings of redundant concrete walls. Penetration of that could only happen with a powerful weapon designed to do just that---a bunker-buster missile. They probably used one that had a smaller warhead on it (bunker-buster "lite"?). And there are so many other problems... the lack of wing debris, tail debris, the total lack of damage to the lawn in front, the videotape that the feds are hiding, and many other aspects. 
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Comment #101 posted by FoM on March 26, 2006 at 08:28:19 PT

Daisies in Their Rifles
I will never forget the impact of seeing daisies in a soldier's rifle. Pictures like that stand the test of time.
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Comment #100 posted by Max Flowers on March 26, 2006 at 08:06:55 PT

Sam
I think that's a good tactic. PICK OUT a few (since obviously there are too many to concentrate on all at once), target them specifically for their anti-cannabis/pro-drug war position, and dedicate the efforts to unseating them *specifically on those grounds.* The rest of them will get the message alright.Can it be done...?
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Comment #99 posted by OverwhelmSam on March 26, 2006 at 07:13:37 PT

Whig
I see a sea of changes around the world, but the federal government just ignores the will of the people.I like to think in terms of efficient effectiveness. MPP and SAFER have been the most efficient in political terms, and I just think it's time to focus our efforts on the real problem, which is the US Congress. This area needs to be opened up for ideas.In my mind, the only way to be truly effective in making a Congress, that thinks it can do whatever it want's to do, change the anti-marijuana laws, is to effectively campaign against the die hard anti-marijuana representatives in Congress. It doesn't matter the issues that are brought against them in a campaign as long as they lose their seats in Congress. A few Congressmen lose their careers, and the rest of Congress will sit up and pay attention now.The other issue I see on a national level is the anti-marijuana activists police and district attorneys. In my mind they are suposed to enforce the law, not make the laws to their own liking. Some of these officials are eleceted and can be campaigned against. Some are employees and can be fired with the right kind of pressure. That's another area that should be open to a little brain storming.What do you think? Would they finally learn to respect marijuana consumers?
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Comment #98 posted by jose melendez on March 26, 2006 at 03:37:48 PT

abort partial nazis
Re: comments 92, 93:Whig is correct. we should shoot them with video and stills, attack them with truth, kill them with kindness and stick daisies in their rifles.
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Comment #97 posted by runderwo on March 26, 2006 at 00:56:34 PT

FoM
All poppies are technically illegal (they are all the same species, no matter what they are labeled), but it's like a speed limit. They are only going to enforce it if someone does something stupid and demonstrates intent to distribute. But yes, if you are growing poppy in your garden or selling floral arrangements including pods you are breaking the law. Isn't that a great feeling? It's ridiculous, but at least they aren't being complete Nazis about it.
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Comment #96 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 20:36:39 PT

Sam
Things are changing, just not everywhere all at once. Didn't the Attorney General of California just all but call the San Diego Board of Supervisors delusional?
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Comment #95 posted by OverwhelmSam on March 25, 2006 at 20:11:02 PT

Whig
Oh I know, even though that's what they do.But the fact of the matter is that, until we get a few US Representatives voted out of office, and a few Police Chiefs or Prosecutors from major cities either fired or sued, they're never going to take us seriously.

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Comment #94 posted by Toker00 on March 25, 2006 at 19:55:45 PT

Hope, no.76
I know what you mean, Hope. The only Republican on my team at work finally relented. He is now voting Democrat. There was a Mr. Rose who came by my house last night, campaigning for Constable. I said, Democrat, huh? He said, You don't think I would be a Republican out here like this, do ya? He grinned real big and we had a laugh. They are dropping like flies, poisoned by their own lust and greed. Now let's target the Greedy Democrats, k?Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #93 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 19:38:47 PT

#92
I don't think we should even joke about resorting to violence.If we sink to their level, we become indistinguishable from them. We cannot win through force or fraud, we must rely on truth and peaceful means.
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Comment #92 posted by OverwhelmSam on March 25, 2006 at 19:30:01 PT

Our Next Move
We need to start doing something about the anti-marijuana politician and cop activists. I mena those activists who are using their positions to push marijuana prohibition on the public with our own taxes. I wonder how law enforcement and congressmen would like it if we started shooting back, kicking their ass, locking them in brick squares and sending attack dogs after them?I'm betting they would object. Hey, at the very least they would get the message that this treatment is cruel and unusual punishment. 
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Comment #91 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 19:00:15 PT

Alaska Marijuana News
Alaskans Weigh Privacy and Drug Dangers in Marijuana Debate***Associated Press March 24, 2006 
 
 
  
  
 
Alaska's governor is pushing a bill to recriminalize marijuana in the state - and trigger a constitutional challenge that he hopes to win this time. Alaska laws regarding the possession of the drug are the most liberal in the country. Residents may possess up to a quarter-pound of marijuana for use in the home. 
 Complete Article: http://www.ktva.com/topstory/ci_3637375***Angus Reid Global Scan : Polls & ResearchAlaskans Satisfied with Existing Marijuana LawsMarch 26, 2006 (Angus Reid Global Scan) – Many adults in Alaska support a ruling by their state’s Supreme Court on the issue of cannabis possession, according to a poll by Goodwin Simon Strategic Research. 50 per cent of respondents favour allowing adults to keep up to four ounces of marijuana for personal use in their homes. The 1975 Alaska State Supreme Court ruling was reaffirmed in 2004. In November 2004, 56 per cent of voters in Alaska rejected a proposal to "legalize the cultivation, use and sale of marijuana for persons 21 and older" in a statewide vote.In June 2005, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the federal government can block the cultivation of cannabis for personal use, citing broader social and financial implications. The 6-3 decision effectively allows the federal government to override state legislation.Ten U.S. states—Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington—allow the use of marijuana under medical supervision. Alaska governor Frank Murkowski has proposed a law that would prohibit the possession of any amount of marijuana for personal use in the state. 56 per cent of respondents are opposed to this plan.Polling Datahttp://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/11353
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Comment #90 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 17:58:07 PT

i am.
 oops, here's the correct link, not sure why it kept getting truncated, http://tinyurl.com/kaksmsee also: http://radgeek.com/gt/2001/07/31/dyncorp_mercenaries and: http://tinyurl.com/htcvb
correct link for the junkheap
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Comment #89 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 17:54:32 PT

therefore
 
 see also:http://radgeek.com/gt/2001/07/31/dyncorp_mercenariesand http://tinyurl.com/htcvb
wrong link
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Comment #88 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 17:29:25 PT

therefore
Prohibition II, Cold War II, WW III, Homeland Security, national disasters, what's the difference?
About those sums . . .
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Comment #87 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 17:28:23 PT

runderwo
I thought that the whole flower was illegal. I bought and grew California Poppies from seed and they are legal. I did a search and found this article. Pod Seller Busted On eBayhttp://www.poppies.org/2003/02/04/pod-seller-busted-on-ebay/
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Comment #86 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 16:52:06 PT

i think
they are not business men, they are con men.Drug war is crime . . . http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0605-04.htm
 . . . we have proof.
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Comment #85 posted by runderwo on March 25, 2006 at 16:51:47 PT

poppies
Opium poppies are legal to grow, you can buy the seeds and pods on Ebay. What you can't do is possess the opium extract. But you can get around that by making tea with it.
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Comment #84 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:43:24 PT

Go back to bed...
:0)
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Comment #83 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:39:28 PT

"I didn't know you wanted to move."
I don't.
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Comment #82 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:37:50 PT

I don't hate him...I'm past fear, as well.
I'm just pretty much amazed at it all right now. The irony!
A "business man" in the White House. An "Entrepreneur" to "Run the country like a "business"." "Profit" is the bottom line. "We need business men to run this country like a business."They did. They do. He did. He sold us out. He didn't do it by himself by any means. He had lots of help. He just sort of "closed" or "sealed" the deal.Just like business.There are traitorious "busness deals". People "betray" people for money all the time. :0(Idealists can be even worse.Or as bad...or nearly...as worse."Entrepreneur" must mean that guy who would sell out his whole country for a profit for he and his co-"entrepreneurs".:0(Well...if I'd had a "buzz"...I'd certainly have killed it."Betray" is one of the worst words.

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Comment #81 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 15:33:03 PT

Hope
What's a mini mansion? We don't have anything like that around here. I didn't know you wanted to move.
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Comment #80 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:18:28 PT

Get the feeling
that a l----- is in the driver's seat of the whole dang world as we know it. I can't believe he's dragged us back into stuff worse than the cold war.It's like..."Good day, My friend,Until we meet again.If we are not butButt ashes in the wind."again
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Comment #79 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:15:11 PT

How the Internet has changed me...
Almost bought a "mini-mansion" the other day...but the Internet has changed me. I read too many ghost stories on the Internet. The house looked ominous.Lol!Almost bought a mini-manision....for about five minutes! My husband and I have been having fun laughing about that. What makes it funniest to us is that he's one of those mini-mansion haters for some reason and he was instigating it. He'd admired it from the highway on his trips to work. Closer to work. Good price. Reduced. Amazing bargain. Practically new. Good investment! He was really excited. 
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Comment #78 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 15:12:48 PT

Hope 
Thanks for sharing about your husband with us. I know that Bush will go down in history as the worst president we ever had. I have no doubt about that. I don't even hate him. If anything I am ashamed of what he has done to us and the world.
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Comment #77 posted by mayan on March 25, 2006 at 15:10:41 PT

FoM
I believe it was shot down but not to prevent it from hitting it's target. The passengers likely regained control of the plane from either the arab patsies or possible non-arab middle-eastern hijackers. Some speculate that the pilots figured out how to override the remote control which took over the plane. If the plane would have landed safely it would have blown the cover of the entire inside job. Anyway, there's no way amatuers could have manuevered big birds like that and found their desired targets. 
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Comment #76 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 15:08:01 PT

Republicans.....For some reason.
Seen one or two cry,"Uncle!", lately. My husband, a die hard Bush supporter finally cried, "Uncle" the other day.He finally said it. "Bush really is crazy isn't he? He's sold us out." He was like a child who learned the truth about Santa against his will.Yes, Virginia....
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Comment #75 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 15:00:28 PT

mayan
Thank you. In a day and age of technology like we have why don't we know more about this terrible event then we do? I don't know this for a fact by any means but I wonder if we shot down our own plane to save where the plane was headed. 
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Comment #74 posted by mayan on March 25, 2006 at 14:50:49 PT

FoM
I don't have the answers but the official version is bullsh*t so I am forced to speculate like everyone else in the 9/11 truth movement. WING TV has a very interesting theory which is as good as any... Shanksville - Flight 93 Hoax SOLVED !!!
http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/flight93.htmlFlight 93: Mayor of Shanksville Says 'There Was No Plane': 
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/190904noplane.htmWhat Really Happened to Flight 93?
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight93.htmlSecondary Debris Field:
http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_secondary_debris_field.htmlThe Smoke and Explosion Aboard Flight 93:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/f93bomb.html
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Comment #73 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 14:50:01 PT

Whig
It looks long so instead of watching it I bookmarked to check out when I feel a little better. I have heard the name but I haven't kept up on things surrounding 9/11. I guess I feel if I would live in areas like DC or New York I would be thinking that it's only a matter of time. Sometimes it seems like the whole war on terror is centered around DC and New York. They are only two small areas in the whole USA when you look at a USA map. It's like living in an earthquake area. You know it's going to happen someday.
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Comment #72 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 14:38:15 PT

Loose Change
Sorry, wrong link last time.http://tinyurl.com/9maak
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Comment #71 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 14:36:34 PT

Loose Change
http://tinyurl.com/fodks
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Comment #70 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 14:20:10 PT

whig 
What's loose change? I never heard that about the plane in PA. They had a memorial for those who died. Mrs. Bush was there. I did see that.
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Comment #69 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 14:13:09 PT

FoM
According to Loose Change, there was no actual plane wreckage in Pennsylvania.
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Comment #68 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 14:01:29 PT

mayan
Since you follow 9/11 issues closely one thing I want to know is how and why did the plane go straight down in Pennsylvania that day. If they were wrestling for control of the plane it should have come down more like a plane descending rather then nose first unless something happened first. That's always been my question. I am right aren't I that they said it came nose first? 
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Comment #67 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:57:31 PT

mayan 
Since I've been out of the tv news loop because I've been sick I only read about Charlie Sheen. I wonder how much longer news channels like MSNBC and Fox will have enough viewers to keep them on the air. World Link TV has very good news worthy programs. Current TV does a good job too. Thank goodness for the Internet. That's our hope for a better tomorrow.
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Comment #66 posted by mayan on March 25, 2006 at 13:51:00 PT

CNN
Since the news is slow folks might want to contact CNN and urge them to have on some more 9/11 skeptics...CNN Reports Overwhelming Response To 9/11 Story, Airs More Questions: 
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060324cnnquestions911Scholars for 9/11 Truth:
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.htmlWe must strike while the iron is red hot!
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Comment #65 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 13:44:43 PT

Lol...between you and I...
I love my "innocence".... so sweetly returned to me.
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Comment #64 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 13:43:15 PT

Links first...I'll remember
It was great and tasteful, right down to the tastefully written words in the link!
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Comment #63 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:40:19 PT

Hope
As soon as I said non profit activism I realized I have a couple sites that are profit sites. Ron's sites are for profit but Ron pays for my FTE web site. There I feel better.
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Comment #62 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:36:33 PT

Hope
I didn't look to see what was wrong but I just went ahead and removed it. When I look at a web site I look for the web sites links. That tells me a lot about what they are into. I read that early on when I started making web pages. Links are the thoughts extended by the person who made the web site. I always thought that was interesting. You won't find web sites with selling on my FTE site unless I missed one somewhere. I believe in non profit activism. 
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Comment #61 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 13:25:38 PT

Thank you.
That's so very irritating.
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:22:06 PT

Hope
You asked me to delete two posts. I did but it looks like you posted while I was in the edit area and that means your other post is lost in cyberspace. Sorry about that. I have to work fast so no one posts while I'm in that mode for that reason.
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:16:28 PT

runderwo
How can cannabis be called a drug of abuse? I don't know. I look at the word abuse and think what does it mean. Abusing a drug causes withdrawal when stopped suddenly and I understand but cannabis can be stopped anytime a person wants to stop. There's a big difference between something being popular and abuse.
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Comment #57 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 13:13:06 PT

Commonly abused
herb?How dare they?
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Comment #56 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 13:11:25 PT

grrrrr....cranky....
"So how does the number of users correlate with the number of abusers?"Two words....shut me down. ...no three. Users...abusers...correlate.Too sad....too long.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:08:07 PT

Jose
I looked at the link about the poppy. I don't think they are legal to grow anywhere in the states. 
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Comment #53 posted by runderwo on March 25, 2006 at 12:23:52 PT

hmm
"The report shows that cannabis remains the most commonly abused drug in Europe with about 30 million people in the member States of the European Union and in Iceland, Liechenstein, Norway and Switzerland have used cannabis during the past year."So how does the number of users correlate with the number of abusers?
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 12:22:13 PT

Hope
I blast my music most times. The barn is around 700 feet from the house and they can hear it down there sometimes. We have speakers in the living room, bedroom and basement. I have to say to people on the phone, I'm sorry but I didn't hear you could you say it again please! LOL!
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 12:19:23 PT

  TV
Can't trust it with someone sleeping. Aaargh. You know how it get's loud at commercials? Can't stand that.
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 12:14:23 PT

Noise.
I like to make it sometimes. Actually, I make a lot of noise doing nearly anything. Making noise with glee and abandon is something I've loved to do every once in a while, since I was a child....nay....born.I adore peace and quiet...even silence, too. 
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 12:10:12 PT

Protest....
Yup...me, too.I must be quiet....creeping around as have a day sleeper today. Music is so low it's barely audible...but still getting some of the blessings of it.Orchestras at our fingertips. A marvel I marvel at often.I want to throw open the doors and windows to the lovely sunshine we are having to day and blast some sounds out!But must not....Day Sleeper. Day Sleeper that can get very gripey. Looking forward to waking up the judge! (He lives next door. He's not my day sleeper). Was blasting sounds to the field and fauna around here long before all these houses showed up. I'm sorry they built a house in my backyard....but I still must have some sound sometimes.Ike and Tina Turner. Creedence. Janis. 
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 12:03:24 PT

"....break open bales of hay".
Me, too.Now, and since my late teens. I must have psuedoephedrine to breathe and keep my eyes open...cause you can't sneeze and keep your eyes open. I don't have to walk around with a tissue in each nostril to keep from dripping right out on the floor...like a faucet. The itching throat and face and eyes!I always thought Drixoral was the one drug that very much affected the quality of my life...and perhaps even my life depended on. I can't really "live" if I need it and don't have it. I am dependent on it....just like a diabetic is dependent on insulin.It was prescription, when I had my first allergic experiences at about nineteen or twenty years of age....then over the counter...now behind the counter. I'm so afraid they are going to stop making it because of their drug phobias. Nothing else has ever worked...not even other brands of what is supposed to be the same stuff.I am confident as long as I have Drixoral...the right kind...available. But...Man...busybodies....
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 11:43:06 PT

Hope
Soon as I walk in the room....everybody gets up and leaves.That's not so. We are watching Wood Stock 69 and I'm reading what you are saying you liked as far as music goes. I liked Country Joe. He was just on singing Fixin to Die Rag on the DVD. That would be one song along with songs like Ohio, Woodstock by Joni Mitchell but performed by CSNY that I like. I loved protest songs. I still love protest songs. 
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:31:32 PT

Yeah...that's right....
Soon as I walk in the room....everybody gets up and leaves.:0((*smiling* really.)
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:29:28 PT

John Denver, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin
Leon Russel. Joe Cocker. Airplane and Airship,...I can almost get a "recall" high from just thinking about them!I've had some very good tunes as background music to my life. :0)I'm thankful for that...and the ears to ear it with....and the speakers to FEEL it with!
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:25:44 PT

Jimmy Reed.
Huge Fan here...as well as of Fats Domino, Othis Redding, and Johnny Rivers.Muddy Waters.Johnny Rivers. Hadn't thought of him in a while.Louis Armstrong.I was attracted to these wonderful performers long before I ever tried de ganja.(I know J. Rivers is not black.) It's an insult to the beauty and allure of their performances to give rise to such nasty hatefullness and spite, as our leaders of past generations did when they were trying to find reasons to demonize the plant and the man. They said...."FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!" "You must fear, despise...and fear, really, really fear both this performer and this substance".Oh, Lord.Rejoice! Here is MUSIC! It's Good! (danged ole perverts)
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:18:10 PT

Going further back....
I loved the Mills Brothers AND The Doobie Brothers.Mills Brothers crooning was so sweet.Before we had TV when I was a kid, we listened to the radio. Grand Ole Opry. Marty Robbins. Johnny Cash...I Walk the Line. Johnny Horton. Elvis. Blue Suede Shoes...I had some in first grade, during the songs popular days. And Hound Dog Man and "Shakin like a man on a Fuzzy Tree"?Little Richard. When I think of my mother's radio that she kept on top of the refrigerator, I always think of Little Richard and "Long Tall Sally".I've comforted babies to the tune of Bob Dylan, as well as his son's tunes. The Wallflowers. Black Crowes. Been lots of good music during my lifetime.
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:11:40 PT

Had my hair in a pony tail the other day...
Chantilly Lace placement. I could just imagine my circle skirt, "can cans", and bobby socks.By evening the 1958 placement of the tail like protrusion of hair I had formed at the back of my head, had fallen down to my nape...the Seventies' "George Tail".I was bopping for a while...though.
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:07:21 PT

Cajun music...
often good moving music.Zydeco?
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 11:07:13 PT

Hope
I am a coffee person too. Just think they almost made coffee illegal. It is that time of year where allergies kick in. I didn't have problems with allergies when I was young. I could break open bales of hay or straw and not have one problem. I think as we get older our systems become more sensitive. This headache I have is an infection and hopefully it is almost over. My sister has problems with her sinuses and the doctor gave her some kind of medicine that destroyed her sense of smell and taste. She hasn't been able to smell or taste anything for a couple years now.My favorite music is good old time rock and roll. That always gets me going. 
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Comment #39 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:06:22 PT

Yakety Yak
YAKETY YAK
The Coasters - 1958Take out the papers and the trash 
Or you don't get no spending cash 
If you don't scrub that kitchen floor 
You ain't gonna rock and roll no more 
Yakety yak (don't talk back) Just finish cleaning up your room 
Let's see that dust fly with that broom 
Get all that garbage out of sight 
Or you don't go out Friday night 
Yakety yak (don't talk back) You just put on your coat and hat 
And walk yourself to the Laundromat 
And when you finish doing that 
Bring in the dog and put out the cat 
Yakety yak (don't talk back) Don't you give me no dirty looks 
Your father's hip; he knows what cooks 
Just tell your hoodlum friend outside 
You ain't got time to take a ride 
Yakety yak (don't talk back) Yakety yak, Yakety yak 
Yakety yak, Yakety yak 
Yakety yak, Yakety yak FADE 
Yakety yak, Yakety yak 
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 10:54:33 PT

Whig
We need to have REM sleep. Most drugs block this sleep I believe. That's why a person on sedatives is restless but that's just a guess.http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.net/stages/
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 10:51:43 PT

Coffee
Strong... lots of it helps my head.When I see a migraine aura I immediately grab my medicine for it...four advil...four tylenol. Large glass of water. Make a very strong pot of coffee. Drink a strong cup of coffee...drink it all. Drink some more. Relax. Drink coffee. Wait. Drink coffee. Be calm. Lay down for a bit if necessary. I do get caffiene withdrawal headaches if I withdraw from caffiene for about two days. My mother was a fanatic about coffee and tea....I drank neither and I knew what a headache...head PAIN, HURT, was before I ever experienced caffiene withdrawal. It takes three or four days to be easy about not having caffeine. Then I'm no better off than I was to begin with. Sleepy, slow, and un-stimulated. Caffiene is a pretty good stimulant...but as you , know...some of you anyway, one can get too much caffiene. You can actually get caffiene poisoning...of course. It's a trip though...if you like shaking and being jumpy. Too much anything, is not good. Coffee does help keep my headaches at bay...I think. It's Spring! Time to dust and stir away the winter and it's dust and acumulations.So....it's headache time, too. I like to have cleaning music going. Anyone care to share their favorite housework song with me?I used to listen to the Stones for some of my favorite housecleaning songs...but I had to quit them after I'd realized what I'd been playing around babies, innocents, and small children for years! If it works...stimulates...I can listen to it on repeat for hours...which really annoys other people, I've found. But it helps me...if I can get it.Right now, I'm working with "Yakkity Yak. Yakkity Yak."I like Honky Tonk woman...by the Stones...for dusting, especially.Yearning to hear some Wilson Picket is what I'm doing now. I loved that man. He was "A Man and a Half".Mustang Sally!
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Comment #36 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 10:28:48 PT

FoM
My addictive tendency is actually towards sedatives. I've recognized this in myself, because I have sleep problems that have existed since I was a kid, and it's just so convenient to be able to take something and sleep. But the problem is if you take something to force sleep, it becomes even harder to sleep without it. And that sets up a vicious cycle.What has seemed to happen to me is that most sedatives just stop working for me. You know the over-the-counter stuff? Won't even phase me.I have an instinctive recoil from opiates. Every time I begin to feel the "pleasurable" effects some part of me goes "fake fake fake" and I don't want them. I used heroin one time, as I've mentioned, and I did feel the hook very strongly but I substituted with GBL. In other words, I got hooked hard on sedatives from an opiate.I have a little bit of percocet in my medicine cabinet that I was prescribed awhile back and I keep it for emergencies, but I won't touch it unless I really have to and I haven't needed to.But we go to all of these pharms because we don't have something that would work much better. Or, at least, we don't have enough of it to use it to replace the pharms that we'd rather not use. Do I have to say what medicine replaces all of this crap?
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 10:21:41 PT

Max Flowers 
Go Charlie!!!
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 10:19:55 PT

Whig
I was seriously hurt a couple times during my riding days and became dependent on Tylenol 4 and a tranquilizer called Meprobamate 400. Also for headaches I took Fioricet and all legal drugs and finally I needed help and went into a de-tox hospital and had three days of hell. I have only taken pain medicine one other time since 94 because I know that it's an area where I shouldn't go. I have been hurt since then but still left the high powered pills in the cabinet. Addiction is a delicate issue and an area where we need to learn more. I know my risk so I'm done with them unless it gets as bad as it was and it appears to be letting up a little today. What I mean is if a person is addicted to a narcotic and quits and then needs it for pain relief how do we help people to use but not abuse a substance when the pain is gone? 
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Comment #33 posted by Max Flowers on March 25, 2006 at 10:19:40 PT

Charlie Sheen
...is my latest hero. Just when I had concluded that no celebrity had even an gram of courage in their soul and only cared about their own careers, and not one whit about the country, he stepped forward. Thank you Charlie!! May this be the beginning of something huge and wonderful. I wish I knew why the majority of people in this country are so shallow that it takes a celebrity doing this before we can start talking about it en masse.
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Comment #32 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 10:16:16 PT

feel better longer
Apparently, this tea sucks: - - -
from: http://opioids.com/opium/faq.html"Keep the beds well weeded (poppies hate too much competition though shorter type groundcover weeds such as chickweed can keep the soil moist). Keep the water up to them in dry areas. Opium poppies (particularly the purple ones) are weeds in many places and can stand a bit of neglect. For some strange reason the tallest and most vigorous poppies are often the ones that got walked on by accident in their youth. Experiment!The plants may look a bit weedy when the flowers start to happen, don't worry, flowering gives the plant a bit of a boost.You will get a lot of thinnings: young plantlets which have been removed from the garden bed to make room for stronger plants. If you're keen you CAN make use of them. I have references which list young plants 10-20cm high as having up to 71mg/100g dry weight of alkaloids. This can seem insignificant until you consider that opium is only about 12% alkaloids, and you can end up with a kilo of thinnings or more in your home garden. I estimate a couple of grams of smokeable opium type extract can be extracted using methanol. And given that thinnings usually appear prior to flowering commencing, why would you waste a chance?On the other hand you CAN drop the thinnings into hot water and allow to steep for 10 minutes, which produces a vile tasting tea. Opium tea, in my humble opinion, is faq*ed. It tastes horrible, needs fresh flowers to be halfway potent, and does not store well. All alkaloids are apparently present in such a tea in roughly equal proportion to that which occurs in crude opium, but this improves the taste not one whit. Potency varies with opium tea: you can drink a glass and feel nothing, or drink a glass and discover in half an hour that you've had too much. Smoking O is a more immediate route and allows for better dose control. Smokeable O is also easier to store and has a long shelf life.The alkaloids in Papaver somniferum are present in the plant their pure form, and are combined with so called vegetable acids. Combined with acids, alkaloids tend to be more soluble than the free bases. An early method for the extraction of morphine involved addition of calcium chloride to the filtrate of opium 'soup'. The calcium would precipitate the calcium salt of these vegetable acids as a sort of soap scum leaving a crude morphine hydrochloride.Opium varies in alkaloidal content from batch to batch, and between regions. The British Pharmacoepia 1954 lists Yugoslavian opium as the most potent at 15-17% alkaloid content, followed by opium from Turkey, Iran, and Indian opium was at the bottom of the list with a 9-10.5% alkaloid content.HARVEST:As soon as flower petals open, pull them away from the capsule to expose the green seed pod, slice the surface of the pods with a SHARP blade (I find a Stanley blade best) and either place seepage directly onto fresh marijuana which is then dried, or collect the exudation into a vessel ( eggcups are good ) and store to dry. This operation is best done in the early morning- I've found that yields decrease as the temperature rises.Another method is to slice the seed heads and wipe the opium onto cigarette papers. You can pull the dried opium latex away from the paper to store in airtight bags at a latter stage.I've found opium is best stored in a dry environment - can't remember whether its hygroscopic or not, but keep it dry for best resultsIn a large harvest two layers of extract will form from the opium seepage. Separate the two layers if possible - it may be possible to do this at harvest stage especially with the Persian White variety as the two layers have distinctly different weights- one can be used to enhance the potency of heads or leaf, and the other is a high grade opium product best appreciated on its own.Discard all sliced poppy heads as trash: they are a legal liability and should they be found a charge of cultivation can more easily be proved. For economy's sake, you can also use the weep at both the edges of the cut stem- best taken by wiping straight onto fresh dope leaves. It's not high quality yield from this cut, but hey, why waste it?Resist temptation and save the first, last and largest heads to ripen without slicing for next year's seed. You can improve your strain over time, selecting for first, last, largest, most potent, whatever. I have not experienced problems with the strain 'running out' of genetic material as a result of inbreeding, as can happen with pot, or corn, or lotsa other stuff. This does not mean its not a potential concern, and ALWAYS take a chance and outbreed your variety: note results of any improvements and con serve your seed stocksYou can reslice yesterdays pods if you choose to keep them, though I've found the best way to increase yields is to remove spent flowerheads at the base of the main stem or where the flower stem joins to a larger branch - this encourages new flowers to form. Leave only the capsules you intend to save for seed.Flowers continue until end October/start November in the southern hemisphere. Usually pod sizes decrease with the age of the plant- though this is not always the case with transplanted poppies. Keep the seeds from your best pods (if you think that you have enough seed to select for yield) or just keep the seed from any old pods (this is a strategy for preserving genetic variance and is the better practice in small crops).Poppy seeds are VERY tiny, shake or crush the seed pods and remove any non-seed trash for best storage. Place in an airtight jar in a cool place, use one of those wretched drierite sachets you find in vitamin pill jars to absorb moisture, in my view seeds will remain viable for no more than three years even under optimum conditions. So take care to take fresh seedstock for everyyearSMOKING OPIUM:Opium is the name for the brown waxy exudation from the unripe seed capsules of Papaver somniferum. Opium is a combination of chemicals, not a chemical name in itself, as someone so rightly pointed out in Usenet recently. It's active ingredients are morphine, thebaine, codeine, papaverine and several others besides. Yield and proportions of opiates vary between individual plants, crops, varieties, areas. Other parts of the poppy plant (stems, leaves) produce a latex which dries and resembles opium, but the quality of the latexes from the other parts of the plant are not near as high.Opium is described as a stimulant narcotic. Historically it has been prescribed as a painkiller, for inflammation unaccompanied by dyspnoea, in typhus, typhoid and smallpox etc.PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT OPIUM IS AN ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE.Smoking it regularly can increase your tolerance- faster than you think. The good thing about growing your own opium is that usually by the time you think you've picked up a habit, you run out. The other good thing about growing opium is that it's a fiddly, low yield job, particularly using the easier to get, purple variety. You'd only do it if you were fairly dedicated to having a smoke of O. In the quantities it takes to pull a reasonable crop, it is way too much work for the money or the buzz...not to mention the risk."* Edited for textual alignment, see also: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0323/p09s01-coop.htmland from: http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=7021&z=7 The International Narcotics Control Board [INCB] said over 34 million people in Africa smoke Indian helm[Cannabis] which it said constitutes the main illicit drug abuse in the region.A member of INCB, Dr. Philip Emafo who reviewed the report in Abuja, disclosed that the cannabis plant is illicitly cultivated throughout Africa while cannabis is smuggled within the region and beyond, mainly into Europe and North America.The report shows that cannabis remains the most commonly abused drug in Europe with about 30 million people in the member States of the European Union and in Iceland, Liechenstein, Norway and Switzerland have used cannabis during the past year.
According to the document, about 15 percent of 15-year -old students in the European Union member States use cannabis more than 40 times a year.The report which was presented by the Chairman, National Drug Law Enforcement Agency [NDLEA] Alhaji A. Giade on behalf of the Federal Government, disclosed that Afghanistan continues to be the main producer of illicit opium poppy, accounting for 87 percent of global production in 2005.
The document said Afghanistan’s share of the illicit manufacture of opiates, mainly heroin, has been in the increase since 1990s, indicating that Afghanistan continues to be a supplier of illicit morphine and heroin, as well as illicit opiate raw materials.Dr. Emafo said cannabis continues to be the most widely grown, trafficked and abused in the African region, adding that Africa is the world’s largest producer of cannabis herb [after North America], accounting for approximately 12,000 tons, or 28 percent of global production.

CCCCP.org - Drug war is crime. We have proof.
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Comment #31 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 10:09:19 PT

FoM
Just be careful, is all.For a long time I could not sleep at all without taking something. I really messed up my whole sleep system when I was doing the weekly psychedelic pain-kill. It worked, it did, but when the pain overwhelmed even that, it was bad.What worked as a temporary solution for sleep was clonazepam, but it's got real problems. Tolerance means it gets less effective over time. And withdrawal is less than fun or easy. It's taken me over a year to get myself down from 1mg per day to 0.25 per every other day, and then I just withdrew that last bit after Wednesday.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 10:05:02 PT

Whig
Yes I know. I figured it would work the best. 
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 10:02:40 PT

Jose
I would love to let the sunshine in but it's snowing! 
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Comment #28 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 10:01:01 PT

feel better
What you really need is to let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in. *http://tinyurl.com/g9ucy* partial lyric from:http://www.mayanmajix.com/art2289.html Maybe some hot tea with lemon and honey, FoM?
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Comment #27 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 09:58:58 PT

Whoa
Oramorph is Morphine.
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 09:57:12 PT

Whig
What's a benzo? I had to resort to a pain killing drug. I've had a few around for many years. I couldn't stand the pain any longer. It is called oramorph. It takes the pain away for many hours and I sure appreciate it going away.
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Comment #25 posted by Graehstone on March 25, 2006 at 09:54:34 PT

OT: Harder reading
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46452I thought some of you might get a kick out of this, lol.
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Comment #24 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 09:45:43 PT

Oh...
I hope you're feeling better too, FoM.
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Comment #23 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 09:44:56 PT

Headache
I pulled myself off the benzos completely a few days ago, and the headaches have been pretty awful. I asked my wife last night why God hates me. But I'm feeling better today.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 09:39:56 PT

Hope
I feel like I've been on a trip. Not a good one though. LOL!
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 09:21:23 PT

headaches
I actually remember one I had as a child. It was the overture to the measles. 
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Comment #20 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 09:20:09 PT

This illness started with a headache, didn't it?
Sometime it's the first symptom I have of illness, too.I'm so glad to hear you are starting to feel better.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 08:41:12 PT

ekim
Thanks for asking. I'm still alive, Yippie! That's a good beginning I'd say. I am staying in bed mostly. I'll be glad when I can get rid of this headache. Since I can't find any news to post we decided to watch Woodstock 3 Days of Peace & Music The Director's Cut. It would be great to have a reunion of bands from Wood Stock 69 that are still together and touring to perform at the Bethel Woods Center. It isn't big enough though.Bethel Woods Center For The Artshttp://www.bethelwoods.us/index.html
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Comment #18 posted by ekim on March 25, 2006 at 08:00:49 PT

hope you are feeling better FoM
Mar 26 06 Humanist Association of Greater Philadelphia 02:00 PM Peter Christ Elkins Park Pennsylvania USA 
 Board Member and LEAP co-founder Peter Christ, is a welcomed guest to speak to members of the Humanist Association of Greater Philadelphia. Peter's experiences in law enforcement, especially America's failed war on drugs, will provide interesting discussion and Q & A topics for the group. Visit the group's web site at: http://www.hagp.org/ Mar 28 06 Drug Prohibition: Effective Public Policy? 07:00 PM Jim Gierach Chicago Illinois USA 
 Speaker Jim Gierach presents "Drug Prohibition: Effective Public Policy?" to Professor Steve Balkin's Public Policy Class at Roosevelt University. Mar 28 06 Grosse Pointe-Sunrise Rotary 07:00 AM Howard Wooldridge Grosse Point Michigan USA 
 You don't have to point Board Member Howard Wooldridge to the failure of drug prohbition, he already knows about it! Howard will be meeting with members of the Grosse Pointe-Sunrise Rotary for breakfast and discussion of the above mentioned failures. Mar 28 06 WSPD 1370 AM 05:00 PM Howard Wooldridge Toledo Ohio USA 
 Board Member Howard Wooldridge is an in studio guest on WSPD 1370AM, Toledo Ohio. Howard will be discussing numerous issues related to the failure of the war on drugs. Listen live at: http://www.wspd.com/pages/listenlive.html 

http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #17 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 06:49:36 PT

no way, jose
tea party, yes . . . hmmmm . . .http://www.twinings.com/en_int/history_tradition/monopoly.asp
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Comment #16 posted by Toker00 on March 25, 2006 at 06:43:17 PT

Lies,Laws, Taxes, and Death. Is that all there is?
It's getting so hard to squeeze a little LIFE in between all of that.They have it all figured out, don't they? Legally they can "TAX" us, and when we do something "illegal", they can "TAX" us again, with their "LAWS". I'm getting pretty tired of it all. Many of us have waisted soooo much time fighting LIES, LAWS, TAXES, AND DEATH, that life, at least to me, is not near as wonderful as it should be. But still we fight for what it COULD be. It is so damn Tea Party time. It's time to tell the government how it is GONNA be!Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #15 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 04:04:54 PT

that problem was solved years ago
Insurance is a scam if it's tied to inferior building practices:http://www.monolithic.com/thedome/wilson/index.html
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 02:06:50 PT

Tornadoes
Bad news. I hate them. 
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Comment #13 posted by BGreen on March 25, 2006 at 01:43:42 PT

Hope re: post 6
That was the night I asked you to pray for me. That was from the same storm front that barely missed us.The tornado struck less than a mile from two of my students each in different counties, and less than 10 miles from our house.I have to drive through a neighborhood of total devastation to reach one of my student's house. Their yard was covered with debris from destroyed houses. They could feel the pressure drop in their house as they huddled in the hallway.Many of the same houses that got hit on May 4, 2003 were hit again, and they reside in an established tornado alley that heads up highway 60 out of extreme SW MO and travels right up through the extreme southern part of Springfield along the James River close to the county line, out through Rogersville and Fordland, where this young man took the ride of his life.A tornado took that path right before I moved to Springfield back in the mid '70s, and that has been the track (give or take 3 miles) of several tornados since.I don't know what kind of clue you need to make you realize you should move, but I think these people are idiots for rebuilding.There has never been a tornado in my part of the county, but our insurance rates go up every time they have to rebuild these houses in the same areas, and they're building new subdivisions in this alley faster than the tornados can tear them down.What used to be mostly farmland that got hit by tornados is now 3-houses-per-acre subdivisions that are a disaster just waiting to happen.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #12 posted by ekim on March 24, 2006 at 20:30:13 PT

over at Libbys
Punjab Govt also sells bhang
Sarbjit Dhaliwal
Tribune News Service 
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060321/main2.htm
Chandigarh, March 20
It may sound incredible, but it is true. The Punjab Government sells bhang, a narcotic drug prepared from the leaves and flowers of the hemp plant also known as cannabis. However, in local parlance, hemp plants are called “sukha”. Hashish, a strong and costly drug, is also prepared from hemp plants.Next week, the state government’s Excise Department will allocate liquor vends by draw of lots. It will also be allocating a wholesale vend of bhang, a soft drug which is chewed, smoked and drunk for its euphoric effect. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------petty prosecutor wins spiteful school zone case
http://lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/
The latest defendant in the Great Barrington kid sting, 18 year old Mitchell Lawrence, was sentenced to 2 years behind bars for selling 1.2 grams of pot to an undercover officer who zealously pursued the deal and lured the teen into a parking lot in order to be able to evoke a school zone violation. The judge apologized for the sentence that under the grotesque school zone enhancement he was forced to impose. The sentence for the actual marijuana charge amounted to ten days.
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Comment #11 posted by Dankhank on March 24, 2006 at 20:10:17 PT

try again ...
HNN and more to come ...
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Comment #10 posted by Dankhank on March 24, 2006 at 20:09:22 PT

9/11 ...
CNN buzzing 'bout Sheen ...now
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Comment #9 posted by mayan on March 24, 2006 at 17:46:26 PT

They've Already Lost
"It is just a gross example of the police wasting taxpayer dollars pursuing individuals like Mr. La Goy, who is very ill, in direct violation of the recent vote by Denver voters," said Vicente, the defense attorney.Who wants to bet the charges get dropped again? If this even goes to trial it is indicative of how cruel,
heartless and inhumane these fascists are. The prohibitionists have already lost, for they are drowning in their own ignorance and wickedness.  STAND UP NOW, OR LAY DOWN FOREVER...Newsworthy: 
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/03/newsworthy.htmlCNN takes 9/11 Skepticism Mainstream (video links):
http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/13916/CNN_takes_9_11_Skepticism_MainstreamSHEEN: WHAT 9/11 HIJACKERS?
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65825.htmCharlie Sheen: 'Challenge Me On the Facts':
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/240306challengeme.htm9/11 Blogger:
http://911blogger.com/
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 17:14:08 PT

runderwo
Thank you. I'll check it out.
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Comment #7 posted by runderwo on March 24, 2006 at 16:58:11 PT

FoM
You could try using Real Alternative instead:http://www.google.com/search?q=real+alternativeBut I haven't used Windows in a long time so I don't really know what works best over there.
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on March 24, 2006 at 14:35:14 PT

  OT
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/breaking_news/14158868.htm
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 14:21:50 PT

runderwo
I think I might need to update real player since I replaced my hard drive. 
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 14:11:03 PT

runderwo
Thank you. I tried but Real Player won't even open. I use Windows Media Player and it always works but Real has always given me problems.
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Comment #3 posted by runderwo on March 24, 2006 at 13:28:15 PT

FoM
Try putting following URL into realplayer:rtsp://206.168.174.15/6/2/48597_media_files_media_6231_stream.rmThat worked for me
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 10:33:16 PT

Video from Free Speech TV
 I couldn't get the video to work but I thought someone might get it to work so here is the link. Regarding Medical MarijuanaThis film is a hard hitting look at medical marijuana in the modern day. Particularly relating to the California front line battle to distribute and buy a medicine that under state law is legal, yet under federal law is still a Schedule 1 narcotic. This documentary features interviews with people from both sides of the struggle surrounding this issue, featuring appearances by Dennis Peron (Prop. 215), George H.W. Bush, Michael Moore, Ed Rosenthal and John Walters (National Drug Control Policy).Regarding Medical MarijuanaProducer: Martin O'BrienLength: 30m 44sWatch: http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/contentviewer.php?content_id=1188
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Comment #1 posted by Richard Zuckerman on March 24, 2006 at 09:43:40 PT:

STATE LAW MEDICAL NECESSITY DEFENSE?
Does Colorado State law recognize a medical necessity defense in a criminal charge?
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