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Pot Bill Lights Up Debate
Posted by CN Staff on February 14, 2006 at 21:54:08 PT
By Emelie Rutherford, Daily News Staff
Source: Metrowest Daily News
Boston -- As advocates for substance abusers applaud legislation to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana, some crime watchdogs are slamming the measure they said would send a mixed message on drug use. A legislative committee advanced a bill on Monday that would make possession of less than one ounce of marijuana a civil offense with a $250 fine for a first offense, instead of a criminal infraction that could land a first-time offender in jail for six months with a $500 fine. 
Supporters said the bill that has languished in the Legislature in past sessions may have fared better this time because it was weighed by the Legislature’s new joint Mental Health and Substance Abuse Committee.   "I think as a committee we really do have a perspective of focusing on education, prevention and treatment, and that’s different than the criminal justice tough-on-crime approach," said the committee’s House chairwoman, state Rep. Ruth Balser, D-Newton.   Supporters said decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of marijuana would prevent offenders from having difficulty securing federal student loans, jobs and housing because of criminal records.   A 2002 report by a Boston University economist estimates marijuana possession arrests and bookings cost the state $24.3 million a year. Balser said some of that money could be better spent on substance abuse treatment.   "There’s way too many people with substance abuse problems in jail and in the criminal justice system," said James Cuddy, executive director of Framingham social service agency SMOC, who applauded the legislation.   The bill still would have to clear several hurdles to become law -- approval first by the Senate, then the House and Gov. Mitt Romney, and Romney’s office has signaled he may oppose it.   Spokeswomen for Senate President Robert Travaglini and House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi could not confirm the legislative leaders’ stances on the bill yesterday. Framingham Police Chief Steven Carl said the bill would "unnecessarily endanger the public in the big picture."   "On a daily basis, we deal with the issue of alcohol and driving when intoxicated...and now we’re going to say it’s easier to use marijuana?" Carl said.   Carl said judges are the appropriate caretakers to determine how to punish marijuana offenders. Many first-time offenders, he said, have their cases continued without findings.   Milford Police Chief Thomas O’Loughlin said the bill would send a mixed message to young adults.   "If the age is 18, are we sending messages to kids that are different, (that) you can’t have that can of beer but you can have five or six joints in your pocket, that’s OK?" O’Loughlin said.   He questioned how the bill would be enforced, saying many of the offenders would not end up paying the civil fines.   State Rep. Karyn Polito, R-Shrewsbury, a member of the Mental Health and Substance Abuse Committee, said the bill "sends the wrong message."   "I think it’s a very narrow group of people that want the passage of this law," said Polito, who was not present for the committee’s 6-1 vote.   Fellow committee member Richard Ross, R-Wrentham, said he dropped his initial opposition to the bill.   "The more I heard about how even a small infraction follows someone for the rest of their lives, and (marijuana) has become such a prevalent use in society, it seemed like an unfair tag to stick on somebody," Ross said.   Eleven other states have decriminalized possession of marijuana to some extent, according to Whitney Taylor, the executive director of the Drug Policy Forum of Massachusetts.Source: Metrowest Daily News (MA)Author: Emelie Rutherford, Daily News StaffPublished: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Copyright: 2006 MetroWest Daily NewsContact: mdnletters cnc.comWebsite: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/Related Articles & Web Site:DPFMAhttp://www.dpfma.org/ Legislative Panel Backs Bill To Decriminalize http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21593.shtmlTime for Serious Talk About Pothttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20901.shtml Hub Goes To Pot - Boston Heraldhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20876.shtml
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 09:26:18 PT
Runruffswife 
I hope and pray for a early release for him. We will write him back when he responds to us. Jerry is the first person we have ever written to in these circumstances. We are on a mission of sorts.
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Comment #33 posted by runruffswife on February 16, 2006 at 09:17:28 PT:
runruff
Hi FOM,
I am sure what you wrote is fine. He will just love to stay in contact with you. He would almost daily express his gratitude for you and C-News. Thank you FOM.
Love and Blessings, Linda
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 09:06:13 PT
runruffswife 
We mailed the letter this morning. My husband and I sat here last night and tried to think what we could say so that the letter wouldn't be censored. It is a superficial letter but we did say that his Internet friends are asking about him. I figure that is very general and should be ok.
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Comment #31 posted by runruffswife on February 16, 2006 at 09:00:07 PT:
#22 and 23 / RunRuff
Hi FOM and TOKEROO, Thank you for your letters to Jerry. That's awesome! He will love receiving them. I don't know why they haven't let him call me, I haven't gotten through there either. It's all part of the psych I guess. This whole process has been a mind play. That's okay though, the truth is stronger. 
I feel runruff in my heart, I know he is okay and from knowing him he is free inside, he is witnessing everything and he is remaining really positive and probably entertaining himself inside his head. Jerry has an unshakable strength and centeredness and contentment about himself. And an effervescent personality and sense of humor.Thanks for writing to RunRuff. Thanks for standing up for the truth. It takes refreshing everyday. Jerry Sisson #66424-065, FMC Devens, Federal Medical Center, P.O. Box 879, Devens MA 01434Blessings, Linda
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Comment #30 posted by John Tyler on February 15, 2006 at 20:08:11 PT
Go Mass.
This is so cool. Last summer didn’t the Boston area win top honors on some survey about cannabis use? Looks like the politicians are starting to take notice of which side of the bread the butter is on. 
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Comment #29 posted by ekim on February 15, 2006 at 19:39:24 PT
Exhibit A----- on how the war on drugs is failing 
Fellow MI-NORML members,
Fellow EfSDP members,
Fellow MAPINC writers, news hawks and staff
Assorted interested parties:  NORML affiliated Attorney Matt Abel did an outstanding job arguing my 
case in court today. Unfortunately the judge declined to grant any 
motions to dismiss and moved the case ahead to trial. Of course this is 
disappointing but there are many positive notes to report.  The prosecutor appears to be pretty much going through the motions, 
doing his job to the best of his ability but without a whole lot of 
enthusiasm or conviction that justice is being served by continuing this 
dog & pony show. He told Matt and I that he has no desire to press for 
any jail time, merely fines and costs. He even raised the possibility 
that there could be NO fine at all, simply a conviction. He also said 
he has now gone as low in charging me as he is lawfully able. I told 
him that within the newly enacted Michigan Pupil Protection Act, which 
was intended to keep sex offenders out of schools, is a list of offenses 
that result in MANDATORY license revocation. And there just below Lewd 
& Lascivious Public Behavior and Gross Indecency Between Males is, Any 
Marijuana offense. I let him know that as glad as I was to learn that 
I'm not looking at any jail time and as much as I don't want to pay any 
fines, it is maintaining my professional credential and my pension that 
I'm most worried about.  The prosecutor didn't say a whole lot in 
response to that but he did appear genuinely sympathetic. Matt seemed 
to believe that the County is still open to negotiating some sort of 
deal that will allow them to save face.   I on the other hand am not particularly interested in negotiating. 
I'll listen to any offer and who's to say if I won't weenie out in the 
end. But at this point I just don't see a whole lot to be gained by 
taking any deal and a whole lot to lose.  And you know, when I hired 
Matt and we agreed on a fee, he told me it would cover this case as far 
as we could push it, "even to the Supreme Court." OK, I haven't been to 
Washington, D.C. in years.   The judge didn't seem particularly hard nosed either.  He didn't 
grant any of our motions of course, but he didn't seem outraged that we 
would ask.   There was really only one motion that was realistically in question 
at this level--whether or not Probable Cause was established for a 
search.  That was dealt with first and after that the entire thing took 
on the air of a college debate.  Pretty much what would be expected.  
Basically the judge ruled the question of whether or not Probable Cause 
had been established had already been adequately argued by my court 
appointed attorney. Well, no it wasn't adequately argued.  I suggested 
several angles to the court appointed attorney and asked him to use them 
to challenge Probable Cause and he didn't argue any of them.  Bottom 
line though, as far as Due Process is concerned, I'd had my chance and 
the judge refused to re-open the argument. No great surprise.   After that we spent another hour going over several other motions 
Matt had filed.  Proper scheduling, Nomenclature (stalk or stem? Sativa 
or Indica?), Compelling gov't interest, Constitutionality among others. 
We've all heard them before.  The judge refused to bite on any of 
them.  Again, no surprise, those are really questions to be determined 
at the Appellate level.  Just needed to be introduced at the District 
Court level in order to leave them open to appeal at the next levels.    Once again the judge passed the buck.  Said it was up to the 
Legislature to repeal law.  Matt pointed out that it is up to the 
Judiciary to oversee the Legislature, at least make them "play fair" and 
follow their own scheduling scheme but again, the good judge refused to 
take the bait.  This is what pisses me off the most in the Big 
Picture--this passing of the buck.  The judges say it is up to the 
legislature and refuse to act, the legislature says there is no call 
from the judiciary to act.  The Feds continue the WOD, Inc saying there 
is no demand from the states to back off, the states say they can't 
legalize because it violates federal law.  The city councils say it is 
up to the legislature so they won't act, the legislature say the city 
councils aren't acting so there is no demand.  No one wants to be the 
one to break the stalemate. The mad, marching mothers have them all 
intimidated.   At this time, trail will be "60 to 75 days."   Matt 
suggested--jokingly--that we hold off until summer so we could all head 
down to the beach.  Judge laughed.  60-75 days puts us into late 
April, early May.  Weather still pretty iffy over here, Lake Michigan 
shore tends to lag a bit behind central and eastern part of state 
warming up in the spring.  Can't control weather but can promise an 
event will be planned at Willow Ranch to coincide with trial.  Hope to 
have good showing at trail, hope to pack courtroom to send a strong message.   Judge already put Matt on notice that he is most likely to squelch 
attempts at Jury Nullification.  It would be unethical for me to point 
out that there are many ways of communicating with a jury besides a 
direct appeal to nullify. It would be even more unethical for me to 
point out that packing the court room with supporters is one.    Thanks to those who were able to come to court today to support 
me. Your presence was much appreciated.    Probably the biggest thing actually happened after the hearing was 
over and we were back out in the lobby.  A reporter from the Kalamazoo 
Gazette & the Herald-Palladium (St. Joseph) was present for most of the 
hearing. She interviewed Matt, Amy and myself.  No idea how 
sympathetic she will be--"she seemed nice enough," are famous last 
words of too many in our movement.   But she gave a good listen to my 
pitch.  I will post her story to our list once it is published.   OK, folks, with all due modesty AND candor, this is where the 
rubber hits the road.  Regardless of how sympathetic the article is, 
once it comes out I could really use a flood of letters to the editor.  
I'll post appropriate URL's at same time I post stories.  Thank you in 
advance.   I'm feeling fairly positive, even with the recognition that the 
chances of being convicted on this are pretty significant. Not 
particularly enthusiastic about the prospect but I'm taking the longer 
view. As Adam B pointed out at our last MI-NORML state quarterly 
meeting, and again with all due modesty, I am (or would like to be) the 
poster boy for how the WOD, Inc destroys the lives of professional, 
productive, tax paying, other wise law abiding citizens. The damage 
that the state is doing to me by continuing with this ludicrous 
prosecution, clearly retaliatory for refusing to roll over to an illegal 
and unwarranted search, is several orders of magnitude greater than any 
damage that I have done to society, my family or myself by any actual 
use of cannabis.  I am willing to milk all the publicity out of this as 
possible as it can only benefit our movement in driving home the damage 
the WOD, Inc does to ordinary, productive citizens.  Not only is it 
costing the state scads of money to pursue this case, but it has 
rendered me virtually unemployable meaning I no longer can pay my fair 
share of taxes.  A big thank you to the rest of you who are now forced 
to pay my share to maintain roads, schools and public services.   Thanks again for the continuing show of support.  And I promise 
again not to abuse the sentlte & EfSDP lists in particular by making 
regular lengthy postings like this of what are in essence personal 
issues.  Although I'd like to believe there are larger issues here than 
just my own personal woes.  Anyway, please feel free to contact me off 
list if you desire further information.  Other than that, and unless 
someone tells me to knock it off, I will post again only if/when there 
are any significant developments and then will strive to be brief. Please feel free to forward this message in part or whole.Greg Francisco
Member LEAP.org
Member EfSDP.org
Member MI-NORML.og
Volunteer lte writer MAPINC.org
Productive, tax-paying, otherwise law abiding citizen of the USA who 
still believes in the Bill of Rights and our precious American freedoms
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 19:22:23 PT
Hope
Words and how we use them says so much as to how we and others honestly feel. Words can cut us to the bone or lift our spirits. Words can hurt or heal. I wish people that oppose us would understand substance abusers as they call them are living, caring, real people. 
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Comment #27 posted by Hope on February 15, 2006 at 19:09:01 PT
Right, FoM
Even the term "substance abusers" is meant to be a dehumanizing statement. They aren't "people". They are "substance abusers". They're not even "people who abuse substances". They are just "substance abusers". The "Abusers" are the one's who destroy and beat and inprison. The PEOPLE ABUSERS. The woman is a "people abuser" and she supports other "people abusers".
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 18:52:33 PT
Advocates for Substance Abusers
I'll give it a try too. I am not an advocate for substance abusers. I know that everyone that is called a substance abuser is a human being. I am an advocate for people and their well being and jail will not help a person who might have a substance abuse problem. 
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Comment #25 posted by Hope on February 15, 2006 at 18:24:49 PT
Advocates for Substance Abusers
must be the newest "discounting" name they have dreamed up for us. Before, they would say it's "Just Druggies and Dopers and Potheads who want to legalize." They finally realized regular people were seeing that comment as what it was....a way of dicrediting, if at all possible, through wild accusations, anyone who disagrees with them. There childishness and pure nastiness was showing clearly to everyone...so this sounds "nicer"?Ho hum.But I don't mind this so much. I AM an advocate for what SHE chooses to call a "substance abuser" which really means "consumer". Good for me.
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Comment #24 posted by mayan on February 15, 2006 at 17:55:12 PT
"Substance Abusers"
As advocates for substance abusers applaud legislation to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana, some crime watchdogs are slamming the measure they said would send a mixed message on drug use."Advocates for substance abusers"??? What is Emelie Rutherford talking about? What does substance abuse have to do with decriminalizing the use of a plant? I don't get it. 
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 17:13:37 PT
Letter To Jerry
We have our letter written and will mail it tomorrow. Here's Jerry's address again.http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread21596.shtml#9
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Comment #22 posted by Toker00 on February 15, 2006 at 16:33:41 PT
runruffswife
Written, addressed, stamped. I will mail it in the morning. It will be good to hear ANY word from him. Why haven't they let him contact you?Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 12:54:27 PT
museman
Oh OK. Now that you say that I remember it in Forest Gump.I have some tea totlers in my family too. 
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Comment #20 posted by museman on February 15, 2006 at 12:43:24 PT
FoM
I was quoting Forest Gump, but My mom is a fairly wise lady still. She is a 'tea totaller' from forever. In her life she has had one drink, and didn't like it. But even with that preferential attitude she has common sense and is against marijuanna prohibition.
http://wholeearthfamily.org
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Comment #19 posted by Sam Adams on February 15, 2006 at 12:24:42 PT
who's "we", sucka?
All these comments about "we" are interesting - "we" are going to make it easier to get MJ? "We" don't want to send the wrong message to children?The article doesn't mention the fact that Mass. citizens have repeatedly voted "yes" to decriminalize MJ in local referendums, I think it's been going on for several years. In fact, I think the city of Framingham voted to decriminalize by 2 to 1! So "we" have already made our decisions, it's lying, corrupt police chiefs that need to receive the message that WE have been sending for years.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 11:46:13 PT
museman 
Your momma was a wise lady.
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Comment #17 posted by museman on February 15, 2006 at 11:28:39 PT
Dumb and Dumber
"If the age is 18, are we sending messages to kids that are different, (that) you can’t have that can of beer but you can have five or six joints in your pocket, that’s OK?" No it's better to send the message that beer is OK. It's better to have real brain dead people, because then they don't argue against such insanity as Prohibition. It's better to have your brain pemanently put to sleep through consistent alcohol use, than to wake it up with cannabis. Beer drinkers cheer football and war, cannabis users may cheer football (doesn't make sense to me, but I am no Roman) but they don't for the most part cheer war.Oh now that's really it isn't it? The 'mixed message' is really about whether the fat politicians can convince their youth to fight a war to fill their coffers. Alcoholics often 'lead normal lives'. They get up every morning without thinking, go to work without thinking, work all day long without thinking, go home and have some more beer. No thinking involved at all. Same thing every day, doesn't bother them because THEY ARE BRAIN DEAD!You ever listen to our own president slur his words? Between the cocaine, and the alcohol, I dare say there's not much left of 'ol George. Without someone to tell him what to say he is one dumb SOB. But there's no 'mixed message' there? No it's quite clear; Our nation is in the hands of stupid people, and a college degree can be purchased for those who can't quite reach past 'Dick and Jane' in their academic achievements, just ask the Bushes.The fact that there is intelligent life in the United States after 9/11 is another seed they'd not like to grow. Well the Truth is one tree they can't cut down, no matter how much they try. "My momma always used to say; 'Stupid is as stupid does."
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Comment #16 posted by museman on February 15, 2006 at 11:01:45 PT
Mush for Brains
Demonstrated quite nicely by the Lady from Visalia. This is the kind of mush served up as 'fact' and 'statistics' by severely ignorant minds. Maybe if they did an autopsy on Republican housewives addicted to soap operas they'd find just how mushy a brain can get.The DEA should hire her to write news stories, she could mix up enough information in one sentence to keep the facts clouded for years.
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Comment #15 posted by Max Flowers on February 15, 2006 at 10:09:24 PT
Let me add this
I've heard that meth is actually capable of causing necrosis in the brain. If anything, the alleged researchers were probably finding the damage done by decades of meth use.
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Comment #14 posted by Max Flowers on February 15, 2006 at 10:07:12 PT
Regarding #7
That is is the saddest, stupidest thing I've ever seen. I don't believe a word of it, but even assuming that it's true that there were autopsies done, without full knowledge of what substances the immates in question had done their whole lives, including what they may have ingested in prison, no meaningful conclusions can be drawn. That's not science AT ALL. It says "researchers"... do you really belive that these "researchers" believed that these dead prison inmates had only ever smoked marijuana and had never done any harder substances?? Give me a break! The quickest way to dispute this kind of crap is to immediately say "show me this research---give me the citations." I think you'd quickly find that they cannot cite the alleged "research."People in prison are known to ingest all kinds of really bad jail-made concoctions to get intoxicated including solvents and chemicals and all kinds of evil things that could easily have the effect of killing brain tissue.
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 09:48:21 PT
Toker00 
I don't watch Fox News. I find that CNN seems to bring us news that is important more then even MSNBC. MSNBC was doing a good job until they hired people from Fox News and rejects from CNN. I am upset with CNN for hiring William Bennett but maybe it is to show CNN viewers how bad he is and then it would be a good thing.
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Comment #12 posted by GreenJoy on February 15, 2006 at 09:19:37 PT
Exactly The Point
 "On a daily basis, we deal with alcohol and driving when intoxicated..." We are trusted to use alcohol and prescription drugs responsibly. Many fail. The smackdown involved in keeping people from scratching the itch, whatever it may be, is not in keeping with our most basic rights.
 Maybe someday we will have a thoroughly automated mass transit system...so that the inebriated don't need to be trusted to act responsibly for the most part.
 How many 1000's of people go to football games and have way enough beer to be considered drunk, and then at the end go pile into their cars and hit the highway en masse? That is tolerated with regularity. Few are "punished" before something horrible has already happened. No one anywhere can equate cannabis use with the carnage and destruction of alcohol abuse and bear it out with facts. Not even close.
 
 It's just all so stupid. Cannabis users don't need to be punished. Thinking of you every day RunRuff! GJ
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Comment #11 posted by Toker00 on February 15, 2006 at 08:22:16 PT
I will write tonight, mrs.runruff. Bless you.
I will write him a letter tonight. I will say nothing that may be seen as negative or anti-establishment.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on February 15, 2006 at 07:54:54 PT
runruffswife 
Have you heard from runruff yet?
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Comment #9 posted by runruffswife on February 15, 2006 at 07:14:33 PT:
runruff
Hi. Please write to runruff. He is in the belly of the beast and needs a connection to the outside. 
Jerry Sisson #66424-065, FMC Devens, Federal Medical Center, P.O. Box 879, Devens MA 01434Blessings and oh so much Love!
Namaste,
Linda
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Comment #8 posted by runruffswife on February 15, 2006 at 07:08:12 PT:
TokerOO
I appreciate what you said about alcohol and cannabis. I've witnessed alcohol induced agressive behavior and I have never witnessed same behaviors in someone using cannabis. The alcohol vibe is not supportive to a healthy human organism, mentally, physically, emotionally or spiritually.
Cannabis has saved many a folk from the devastating impact of alcohol on their lives. 
Bless this plant. 
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Comment #7 posted by dongenero on February 15, 2006 at 07:05:10 PT
kooky Visalia Times article
This is the strangest little article...........
From the Visalia Times Delta news, Ca.Medical marijuana is bad for patientsA doctor spoke to different churches in Tulare County about the effects of marijuana. He said it kills brain cells.The doctor said that researchers did autopsies on deceased inmates in prison, and found the brains of inmates who had taken marijuana had turned to mush. They had lost the ability to feel anything.So naturally if you are taking marijuana, your senses are deadened and you won't feel anything, which is why some doctors prescribe marijuana for pain. That's wrong, and I believe any doctor who prescribes marijuana as medicine ought to lose their license.
ELLEN WOOTENVisaliaOriginally published February 15, 2006
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Comment #6 posted by potpal on February 15, 2006 at 04:51:24 PT
Doh
That ought to have read, mixed 'signals'! The wrong message thing...Pre-caffeine typo.
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Comment #5 posted by Toker00 on February 15, 2006 at 04:50:14 PT
It would be easier on everyone.
 "On a daily basis, we deal with the issue of alcohol and driving when intoxicated...and now we’re going to say it’s easier to use marijuana?" Carl said.Actually, it IS easier to use cannabis. It would be a lot easier on society, too. Here's why. IMHO:Alcohol weakens the mind, while uninhibiting the soul. Cannabis strengthens the soul, while uninhibiting the mind.Go figure why alcohol is legal while cannabis is not.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #4 posted by potpal on February 15, 2006 at 04:29:23 PT
Mixed singles
"I think it’s a very narrow group of people that want the passage of this law...And I think it's a very narrow minded group of people that do not what the passage of this law.Cops stay out of it. It's is only an opinion that things would get worst. Let's try it and see. Cops are there to enforce the law, not make them. Okay, we understand guys that its your salary on the line and if you didn't have cannabis users to police you'd be working as a security guard somewhere.What mixed single do we send when we take an 18 year old and train them to kill people then send them to a country to practice for a while before they return home (well, some of them) to lead a quiet life, some with aspirations to be a politician?
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Comment #3 posted by Toker00 on February 15, 2006 at 04:05:00 PT
We the People, We the Church.
Forwarding this E-mail to all of you. I love you all. This is from Ohio, FoM.Press Release: Open Letter To All Media & People Everywhere...911
Truth and Super Third Party News...Please Forward WidelyAll group owners and members please see note and information at the
end of the press releasePress release:   
  
Americans are noticing some networks are allowing a little truth to
come out, when it comes to the corrupt Bush administration.To those in media who care what happens to "US," and are standing
tall, thank you, on behalf of "We The People" from everywhere.To the rest of you, please, choose your sides wisely....Peace or
perpetual war should not be a hard decision to makeTime is short and what drives and is behind the corrupt
administration will surely fall, very soon.Very few people are still being fooled and our majority grows daily.
Even those within organized religion have been coming out by the
masses.Many churches want out from under the 501c3, as they too, are ready
to speak out.Finally, real truth and all that oppresses people and the planet is
getting some light.The fence sitters are jumping off and even the old schooled
Christians are beginning to see what has been done with trickery for
generations.Fox news is very disturbing and disheartening by their stance in
trying to keep up with all the deception.Fox news and especially, Bill O'Reilly, have been boycotted by many,
who are very aware, alert and angry.Click here: News Hounds: We watch FOX so you don't have to.
http://www.newshounds.us/This is extremely necessary due to our dangerous state of being.Bill the shill and his agenda is a serious threat to America.Until our history books read true, we have no right to be proud to be
Americans.Most educated people know the Indians were not really happy with the
pilgrims, as we were led to believe as children.Americans, were the bad guys, even back then. We always have been,
actually, then we lie about it and put it in books for the kids, to
continue the many deceptions we stand for.No wonder everyone in other countries hate "US."We don't even like ourselves. Not those of "US" who are knowledgeable
and awake, anyway.We even start our children out with letting them know lying is okay,
santa claus, being the first lie. An anagram for satan and part of
the illusion and deception.Then removing prayer (morality) from school and in came drugs, legal
and illegal. What did we expect to happen?The well goes deep and you in media know what's going on, maybe
better than the most knowledgeable of "US."You have loved ones and children, too. You and yours will not be
safe, either, if we allow this evil empire to continue much longer.Here's some pictures of Bush and Abramoff to add to the pile of lies
and corruption.How could Bush even think about lying about knowing him?...Lie after
lie...How can anyone like O'Reilly expect "US" to take this lying down and
keep buying more lies?The news reporting the white house not releasing these pictures is a
mystery, as they are all over the net.Click here: Photos Of Bush And Abramoff
http://www.rense.com/general69/phots.htm"We The People United Movement"
We are many Political and Patriot Groups joining together, to help
right the wrongs in America..."United We Will Stand"Marsha McClelland...Founder
Cuyahoga Falls, OhioWage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #2 posted by jose melendez on February 15, 2006 at 04:03:40 PT
contact Mike Smithson to set up media debates
Re: Framingham Police Chief Steven Carl said the bill would "unnecessarily endanger the public in the big picture.""On a daily basis, we deal with the issue of alcohol and driving when intoxicated...and now we’re going to say it’s easier to use marijuana?" Carl said. AHEM . . . http://tinyurl.com/84kpm- - - Contact: Law Enforcement Against Prohibition27 Austin RoadMedford, MA 02155(781) 393-6985info leap.ccJack A. Cole Executive Director (781) 393-6985  jackacole leap.ccLincoln Taggart Administrative Director (781) 393-6985  lincoln.taggart leap.ccAllison Silva Program Associate (781) 393-6985  allison.silva leap.ccMike Smithson Speakers Bureau (315) 243-5844  speakers leap.ccPeter Christ  Treasurer   christ leap.ccJohn A. Gayder Secretary   gayder leap.ccEdward Ellison Director - The United Kingdom  ellison leap.ccJerry Cameron Director   cameron leap.ccEleanor Schockett  Director   schockett leap.ccHoward Wooldridge Director   wooldridge leap.cchttp://leap.cc/contact.htmMassachusetts Cannabis Reform Coalition (MASS CANN)P.O. Box 266Georgetown, MA01833-0366http://www.masscann.org/Phone: 781-944-2266Email: masscann pobox.comNational Organization for the Reform of the Marijuana Laws (NORML)Massachusetts Lawyer List here:http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4543for NORML media requests, contact:Allen St. Pierre1600 K Street, N.W.Suite 501202-483-5500 x107 (w)202-484-0057 (f)media norml.org - - -Radio Contacts: http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Radio+Stations/S-MA/T-Boston/TV contacts: http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Television+Stations/S-MA/T-Boston/see also: http://www.lowellrepublicancitycommittee.org/LinkInfo.htmlfrom: http://www.framinghamma.org/web/pages/Directory.htmSteven B. Carl508-620-4927Police framinghamma.govsbc framinghamma.govPolice Headquarters1 William Welch WayFramingham, MA 01702 (Dept) Health   Bob CooperHealth framinghamma.govRobert.Cooper framinghamma.gov150 Concord StreetRoom 221Framingham, MA 01702Fax 508-620-4833  508-620-4827Selectmen’s Office   Selectmen framinghamma.gov150 Concord Street Room 121Framingham, MA 01702Fax 508-620-5910  508-532-5400Human Relations Commission  Edwina Weston-Dyer, Chair   508-620-4850Government Access Television   Ron.Rego framinghamma.gov150 Concord StreetRoom B15Framingham, MA 01702Ron Rego508-875-8588 - - -bears repeating . . . Massachusetts Lawyer List:http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4543
Criminalize Prohibition
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Comment #1 posted by Toker00 on February 15, 2006 at 03:47:43 PT
Truth Sunami.
 "The more I heard about how even a small infraction follows someone for the rest of their lives, and (marijuana) has become such a prevalent use in society, it seemed like an unfair tag to stick on somebody," Ross said.The more he "heard". And where do you think he "heard" about this? Not among his fellow politicians. He heard it through the "grapevine". Is the internet the "grapevine"? The Cannabis movement is like a Sunami set off by the destructive force of Prohibition. It's wiping out lies and waking up a lot of people to the destruction caused by Prohibition.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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