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Fighting for Mary Jane’s Rights
Posted by CN Staff on January 30, 2006 at 08:00:02 PT
By Tiffany Breyne, Assistant A&E Editor
Source: Columbia Chronicle
Illinois -- Clinton tried it but didn’t inhale. Kanye wrote a song about it, and the Kottonmouth Kings base their entire lives around it. Marijuana has found a place in numerous people’s lives, and most people are OK with that.Now there’s even a book about experiences and thoughts while smoking marijuana—the illegal substance that some organizations are fighting an uphill battle to change the negative image revolving around the drug.
This past December three guys—Arj Barker, Doug Benson and Tony Camin—published The Marijuana-Logues, a humorous book parodying The Vagina Monologues that replaces the female anatomy with an illegal substance. The book, as the authors write, is “written by stoners, for stoners, about stoners.” While this is an interesting concept that provides some laughs, with pointless conversations, “high-kus” and snippets on marijuana. In the bigger scheme of things, though, producing a book devoted to stoner/marijuana stereotypes could mean more than just a few laughs. For some, the fight to legalize marijuana for recreational, spiritual and medicinal purposes should be taken seriously. For Louis Silverstein, a liberal education teacher at Columbia and author of Deep Spirit and Great Heart: Living in Marijuana Consciousness, publishing a book like The Marijuana-Logues is a feat with a double-edged sword.“I certainly think people have a right and should have the right to write and publish whatever they want to,” Silverstein said. “I think people can jump on this who are opposed will […] not pick out other literature on marijuana and say this really is a substance that makes people like [the guys] are in this book.”According to Silverstein, marijuana wasn’t made illegal in the United States until the 20th century. Before that time, hemp was grown on plantations, including George Washington’s, ship sails were made out of hemp and some constitutional documents were written on hemp paper. As goes along with the term “reefer madness,” Silverstein said that weed gained it’s negative appeal when American citizens opposing Mexican immigration to the states spread word that Mexicans were bringing with them this dangerous weed that would make people do terrible things and put them in a crazed sex mode.Following the propaganda against marijuana, the Drug Enforcement Agency was formed and put on a mission to tell the public of marijuana and other drugs’ negative effects on people.“This allowed them to get more money and increase their organization, and that eventually turned into the war on drugs,” Silverstein said. “Which right now is a multi-billion dollar industry, and there’s so many people making money off the war that it’s hard for them to hear that marijuana is not what they think it is.”The fight to make marijuana legal again, for whatever reason, is one with much opposition not only from organizations like the DEA or government officials but from health advocates. Prevention First, an Illinois drug prevention organization, thinks that legalizing marijuana for all purposes can have harmful effects on people’s health. “There are people that think marijuana should be legalized completely,” said Tari Marshall, director of communications and information resources. “The total legalization for anyone and everyone, to us, would be a dangerous decision.”While Prevention First works with young adults and children under 18 to help them make healthy drug free choices, they have no overall view on the rights and wrongs of legalization, but they do have facts on marijuana and what it does to the body. According to facts Marshall found, the marijuana produced today is 30 times more potent than when it was produced in the ’60s due to newer methods of growing. When people are smoking marijuana instead of cigarettes, Marshall said the harm to the body is still the same.“[Marijuana is] actually pound for pound more carcinogenic than cigarettes,” Marshall said. “People smoke marijuana; they’re just as likely to get cancer from smoking marijuana regularly as they are from cigarettes or any other substance related to these carcinogens.”*** While Marshall has a strong case for the negative effects of marijuana, Allen St. Pierre, executive director for The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said that a number of studies dedicated to marijuana constantly conflict each other. St. Pierre said that he divides the studies into two groups—the warning reports and the calming reports. The warning reports can be found on any substance, legal or not. The calming studies come out months later and deny the results of the warning reports. St. Pierre cites organizations such as D.A.R.E. and Partnership for a Drug-Free America as the primary sources of confusion and where the majority of younger people get their information from. According to St. Pierre these organizations do not use credible statistics in the same way they use them for tobacco studies. Regardless of the different studies, St. Pierre has other thoughts on the debate between the effects of tobacco and marijuana. “One can make the easy concession here that when you burn something and draw it into your lungs, it’s by definition not a wise health decision,” St. Pierre said. “The question though is whether it should be a criminal decision. And in our country, it is not a criminal decision in most cases if you engage in something that harms only you.” St. Pierre and Silverstein both agree that the government and monetary issues have much to do with marijuana still being an illegal substance. Silverstein, though, sees possible benefits in the legalization of the drug, such as economic benefits. These benefits include putting the billions of dollars used on the war on drugs every year towards Chicago’s public school system, which recently announced a lack of funds will cause layoffs in the near future. Silverstein said the money could also be used toward helping the city’s homeless people, and that in his perspective the war on drugs has not lessened the use of marijuana and just “creates havoc” and corruption. Silverstein is optimistic about a possible change in the drug’s legality in the future, though he doesn’t know when that will be.“I don’t think there’s any question that there is light there,” Silverstein said. “In a number of European countries they have moved very forward. In the United States I still think it’s off somewhere in the indefinite future. That’s not gonna occur for awhile.”For more information on Illinois’ marijuana laws and on substance use, visit: http://www.norml.org or http://www.prevention.orgNote: Legalizing marijuana still up for debate.Source: Columbia Chronicle (Columbia College Chicago, IL Edu)Author: Tiffany Breyne, Assistant A&E EditorPublished: January 30, 2006Copyright: 2006 Columbia ChronicleContact: chronicle colum.eduWebsite: http://www.ccchronicle.com/CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml
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Comment #62 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 20:02:13 PT
runruffswife 
I want to mention this to you. You and runruff are under unbelievable pressure. Don't feel you need to answer my questions. I am trying to think of someway I can figure out how I can help. I don't know if I can but I want to try. Take it easy as best as you both can. 
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Comment #61 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 19:01:12 PT
Runruffswife 
Please explain what turning yourself in to Devon means? What does that entail? Transportation?
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Comment #60 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 18:58:29 PT
She might as well have said,
"Ve vill eliminate you."
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Comment #59 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 18:55:01 PT
Oh my gosh.
"...if you don't turn yourself directly in to Devon you will sit for weeks in county, with no meds, not even nitro, that you will then go north and sit for weeks, meds probably, then on to oklahoma where you sit for a minimum of three weeks, no meds." Man! Did she click her heels together and give you a stiff armed salute?That is so wrong. That's wrong to do to anyone, ever. 
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Comment #58 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 18:46:02 PT
Is there a politician there we can send mail to?
Or call? A senator or rep maybe? Any doctors or other patients?
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Comment #57 posted by runruffswife on February 01, 2006 at 18:42:43 PT:
medical care?
Last week Runruff's court release officer stood in our living room with her gun and badge on her hip, looking down at Jerry while he was resting on the couch with oxygen in his nose and his nitroglycerine near by -just in case- and basically said, if you don't turn yourself directly in to Devon you will sit for weeks in county, with no meds, not even nitro, that you will then go north and sit for weeks, meds probably, then on to oklahoma where you sit for a minimum of three weeks, no meds. I looked her directly in the eyes and explained that nitroglycerine needs to be available to Jerry at all times because it could mean saving his life, and she said, "no."Shine the light on that kind of darkness!Once runruff is at "the facility" he is promised "most" of the care he needs. Most of it. 
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 18:12:44 PT
Just a Thought
Do you feel that runruff will get good medical care? Would another Doctor examining him help maybe? 
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Comment #55 posted by runruffswife on February 01, 2006 at 17:55:22 PT:
what might help
Thank you Hope. Thank you FOM.
I have been contemplating your question, what might help. His forced surrender is coming quickly. It seems as though the momentum of this thing is strong. I am every moment of every day tuned to the intention of Jerry's freedom. However, there is this sick feeling inside that I try to get away from. No, it's not just and of course it's not sane. And for some reason it's here. What can we do? I think we can continue to let our inner light of truth shine bright. I know what runruff is going to do. He is going to stay free on the inside. He will continue to radiate the truth.
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Comment #54 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 14:55:55 PT
FoM...something about Runruff to mention.
One thing that might help, and that is not obvious from looking at him and reading the vitality of his words, is that he has some very serious health issues and also it might be worth mentioning that he is no spring chicken and he's run out of resources and very quickly, running out of time before they put him away. A lot of nice guys are sent up the river over this outrage bred by prohibition...but if there is anything we can do to stop it this time. Well...that would be very good. Very, very good.
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 14:49:38 PT
How we look
I sometimes imagine how the people I speak to here might look. I'm usually amazingly wrong when I finally see them. Even our E.J.'s butt didn't look like I might have imagined. I certainly didn't imagine Runruff to be mature, GQ male model, handsome. Just shows you never know. I liked getting to see Mr. and Mrs. Runruff...and now to speak to Mrs. Runruff and yes you, Mr. and Mrs. Runruff, are a remarkably handsome couple. I see the joy on your faces...which to a great extent is what makes you both as pretty as you are. It makes me so sad to think that that couple, Runruff and his beloved, is being torn apart, seperated and punished so utterly wickedly for something, in a sane world, that is not wrong at all in any way. I'm outraged. Even if you were hard to look at ugly and fat...I'd still be outraged.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 14:40:42 PT
runruffswife
I wanted to mention this to you and runruff. I am doing a lot of thinking and I'm trying hard to come up with something that might help runruff. I need to know what could even slightly help. I don't know what to tell a person I can contact about runruff. What might help? Thanks.
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 14:20:13 PT
runruffswife 
You are a very attractive couple. I'll tell you what I thought Jerry looked like before I saw the picture. A Hippie! I love Hippies. I am a Hippie on the inside too.
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Comment #50 posted by runruffswife on February 01, 2006 at 14:04:22 PT:
may I agree/brag?
And yes, He is a Handsome Hunk. 
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Comment #49 posted by runruffswife on February 01, 2006 at 13:55:02 PT:
Intention
Yes. Yes. Thank you for your sweet reply, all of you.Intention is key. When we set an intention our thoughts, words and deeds follow that intention. Hope, thank you for the intention of Jerry being uplifted and protected. May it be so.
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Comment #48 posted by whig on February 01, 2006 at 12:37:36 PT
Mrs. Runruff
"I am proud of my husband. He is courageous and has a bright inner light. This situation with the Feds has only turned up the dimmer switch."I can tell that you are both a great strength to one another. Love will win in the end, but the persecutors still have their day for the moment, or more correctly their night. I hope it will be a short time before the dawn, however long it may APPEAR to be....It's been a long time comin',It's going to be a long time gone.But you know, the darkest hour,Is always, always just before the dawn.
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 08:49:05 PT
Runruff's Wife
Welcome, Ms. Runruff. We do love him here as you've noticed. And we loved him before we knew what a handsome ole hunk he is. He's a kind, sweet, intelligent man. You are very blessed in spite of all this government trouble. I know when you pray that someone "be warm"...you're supposed to give him a coat...or if he's hungry, "give him something to eat". This situation is somewhat harder to remedy than that. So many are actually profiting from doing this to our friend and your husband. I wish we could stop them. I don't know how...but maybe we will be shown a way. If we aren't and he has to go to that prison...I'm trusting that he will be protected and lifted up, somehow.
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 07:20:54 PT
Runruffswife 
Welcome to CNews. Runruff is loved and appreciated here. I hope you visit with us often.
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Comment #45 posted by runruffswife on February 01, 2006 at 07:04:37 PT:
Love and Blessings
Thank you for all of your love and support. Your kindness and great intention is a comfort to us both.I am proud of my husband. He is courageous and has a bright inner light. This situation with the Feds has only turned up the dimmer switch.Love and Blessings, 
RunRuff's proud wife.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on January 31, 2006 at 15:42:05 PT
rchandar
"...marriage could be good, something that allows those of us who fail to swim the fickle and ridiculous dating mazes that leave many people equally disenchanted with everything, a chance at having and loving a lifetime partner."Marriage is good. I'm happily married, and so is FoM by her accounts. But what you describe doesn't sound like marriage to me, and that's where I think the confusion lies. Societally we've redefined marriage to be a civil institution, a license that the state grants, an imperfect union.Nothing prevents a marriage from coexisting with a civil license, per se, and I expect that most married people do accept the license. But don't confuse the two things, is what I'm saying.There are a lot of fake marriages, and even when they don't end in divorce, I think they result in a lot of unhappiness. When I see unhappy people, I have to wonder what is wrong. When I see people who are fundamentally dishonest with others, I doubt the sincerity of all their relationships. So when I look at most politicians, I ask, do they even know what love is?The video FoM uploaded with Jack Herer had an introduction where the woman was talking about how Diane Feinstein turned her back on her friends. DiFi doesn't care about people, she cares about being elected. This isn't unusual for a pol, it's typical.I wish that everyone could open themselves up to love, to genuine caring. I just see a lot of "serious" people who aren't, they let themselves fear everyone, and they fear themselves, they don't exhibit love. How can they be truly married to anyone then?
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 14:33:43 PT
rchandar 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I love being married and I have been married for 32 years. We have been thru some serious times with money, the loss of our parents and the loss of my son. We were each other's strength. That's what I meant by feel good institution.
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Comment #42 posted by rchandar on January 31, 2006 at 14:13:51 PT:
or...
...marriage could be good, something that allows those of us who fail to swim the fickle and ridiculous dating mazes that leave many people equally disenchanted with everything, a chance at having and loving a lifetime partner.sorry. stereotypes are un-cannabis, despite the obvious number of us who profess sexual freedom (I used to, for example).
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 11:33:43 PT
whig
You are making sense. Marriage is not a feel good institution. 
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Comment #40 posted by whig on January 31, 2006 at 11:25:55 PT
Love and marriage
It's nice to see the real thing. How many marriages are just socially expected customs without the obvious and genuine love and trust that can be seen here?How many politicians have real marriages? How many "serious" people? I think there is a big problem with the divorce rate, but I don't think it's because people are getting divorced per se, it's because they were never actually married.Does that make sense?
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 11:15:03 PT
whig
Thank you. She was a very pretty and happy bride. She's a professional golfer.
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Comment #38 posted by whig on January 31, 2006 at 11:10:31 PT
Wub wub wub
That was beautiful.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 11:06:50 PT
museman and whig
Whig,I also put the wedding video on You Tube but You Tube has size restrictions. I don't think Google does.A member from CNews uploaded this video.http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=jack+hererA video I put together and uploaded for my sister who is a Wedding Videographer.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-173436169681063980&q=Our+Day++Finally+Arrived
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Comment #36 posted by whig on January 31, 2006 at 10:51:52 PT
museman
Would Youtube.com be easier?
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Comment #35 posted by whig on January 31, 2006 at 10:45:00 PT
FoM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5803105690832153950&q=marijuana
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Comment #34 posted by museman on January 31, 2006 at 10:44:35 PT:
google video
Thanks,
if I can't make it work on my own website, and I can find no other option then maybe google. Their process seems too laden with screening and filtering copyrighted material to make it easy. Though I do have permission to copy and distribute this video in any way I can, I anticipate a lot more run-around that I am prepared to do at this time.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 10:24:23 PT
Google Video
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=marijuana
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on January 31, 2006 at 10:21:38 PT
museman 
Have you tried uploading it on Google Video? Then you can let them carry the video and link to it. 
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Comment #31 posted by museman on January 31, 2006 at 10:00:51 PT:
that runruff link
The one I posted yesterday. If anyone has tried to access it they will notice that 'the account has been suspended' Apparently I crashed their server trying to upload the "Let My People Grow" movie. So for now it's down. I am in contact with my host, and it will be cleared up hopefully today, but I guess I really messed up their bandwidth so until we figure out what happened, it's probably not going back up.
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Comment #30 posted by Max Flowers on January 30, 2006 at 22:49:33 PT
That LTE
...is devastating! Bravo! Very, very well said.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 21:27:12 PT
LTE: Legalize It
http://hollisterfreelance.com/opinion/contentview.asp?c=177958
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Comment #28 posted by ekim on January 30, 2006 at 18:48:39 PT
Howard 
Monday, January 30, 2006 
Wooldridge in Washington
http://lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/
Our friend Howard Wooldridge checks in with his weekly report on the world of reform lobbyists. Having hung out with Howard when he's in action, which is always, I can just picture him buttonholing these guys. How to Make a Politician Smile: Since my arrival, I have been telling Congressional Staffers how “Law enforcement is mosquito on the butt of an elephant. We don’t make a difference.” Late last week I followed that up with, “You’ve given us over a half billion dollars in the past 35 years and we have made 0.0 difference. Please, STOP GIVING US MONEY!!” So far every staffer but one (from Texas) has at least cracked a big grin with several saying they had never had anyone request less money for their issue.I visited 27 offices during the week. It was the last week before all the Congressmen returned to town = free time will be at a premium. The highlight of the week came on Friday, as LEAP speaker Norm Stamper was able to bring me to a dinner and social hour at a prestigious DC institute and think tank. . Norm, recently retired chief of police of Seattle, WA was a speaker at the event. The gathering included about 50 large-city mayors from around the USA. 4 of 8 that I chatted with came right out and agreed with the LEAP goal. Those declarations were followed quite quickly with the proviso that they would never whisper that in public. Hearing such things, it is such a sweet wine to the ear, followed by vinegar on the tongue, as they refuse to go public.
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #27 posted by OverwhelmSam on January 30, 2006 at 17:50:02 PT
Affirmation
The marijuana prohibitionists fear that if marijuana is legalized it will change their idea of the American Dream.Memo to the Prohibitionists:The American Dream has changed. It's time for you to forget your outdated notions of the American Dream and join the new American Dream with rest of us. Legalize Marijuana!
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Comment #26 posted by b4daylight on January 30, 2006 at 16:16:35 PT
neatJerry
I like the hand writting idea.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 15:54:04 PT
museman 
Thank you very much. What a lovely couple. Things must change. It's all wrong.
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Comment #24 posted by sam adams on January 30, 2006 at 15:48:34 PT
runruff
Hey man no big deal - I feel the same way you do - a lot of times people that work on reform full-time lose their sense of outrage. I think we should express our outrage at the cruel absurdity of WOD every time a reporter calls. I just wanted to point out that much of the time, the media can be very exploitive. Many times they'll be writing a very negative article, but they'll lie to you to get you to talk to them.Sometimes I wonder why people even bother talking to them at all. I try to remind myself that every article or mention of changing the cannabis laws is good - it makes people think that the issue is in play, and that change is possible.When you talk about legalization, most users that I know say "oh, they'll never do it. It'll never happen". If people that actually use cannabis are thinking that way, they're right - it won't happen. People feel dwarfed by the massive-ness of the government. They've forgotten that it's supposed to be OUR counrty and OUR laws.
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Comment #23 posted by museman on January 30, 2006 at 15:47:27 PT:
runruff info
ok the initial page is up, only a couple of pictures and one letter that was written on Jerry's behalf. As I can in the next couple of days I will post more, as J gives me more info and we discuss just what he is willing to divulge of his case on the net, and other info he wants posted.here's the linkhttp://www.terryhubbard.com/J/not a whole lot there just yet but you still might like to check it out.
http://wholeearthfamily.org
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Comment #22 posted by Toker00 on January 30, 2006 at 15:02:59 PT
What to say.
Runruff, runfuff, runruff. Just hold tight to what we have all shared, learned, and created with you here. You can take it with you, because it doesn't reside just in your computer, but in your heart as well. We'll find a way to remind you that we care, bro. God IS with you. At the end of this ordeal, you may find only One set of footprints in the sand, but maybe if you'll look a little closer, you'll see Ours there too. Never doubt, we care. OFFICE of the NATIONAL DISASTER CALLED PROHIBITION, you should be ASHAMED!!! Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #21 posted by museman on January 30, 2006 at 13:56:07 PT:
storm crow 17
"So who ya goin' ta believe- the government or the doctors?"Neither one at this point. I think my own self study of cannabis over the past 35 or so years trumps all of that newly come info and orchestrated statistics. I'd be laughing about the absurdities of some of the establishments claims, in particular;"According to facts Marshall found, the marijuana produced today is 30 times more potent than when it was produced in the ’60s due to newer methods of growing."I'd laugh but too many people believe this shyte.
Put it right next to 'the gateway drug' and
the drug that makes all non-white men want to rape rich white women.I was smoking the stuff they claim is 'not as potent.' Obviously THEY weren't. But I guess one can't expect much from such foolish minded idiots.
http://wholeearthfamily.org
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 13:40:34 PT
museman 
We only need to light one candle and if you are able to do a page for Jerry you have done enough.
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Comment #19 posted by museman on January 30, 2006 at 13:38:04 PT:
runruff info
At this very moment I am uploading a flash video (which took me about 3 months to get into proper format) of "Let My People Grow" the video Jerry (runruff) is speaking of. Sometime this afternoon I will post the link.We have already spoken about correspondence, and the posting of anything coming from runruff. I am able to scan documents, so anything he sends can be put up on the net.The page that I am doing for J has given me an idea. He will be the first (with his own page) of the "Casualties of War"-referring of course to the WOD.I won't guarantee how much research for other victims I will have time for, so any help with compiling, arranging and formatting information about them would make it easier for me to put up the info.
http://wholeearthfamily.org
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 13:13:25 PT
Storm Crow 
I'll explain how to paste a working URL in a comment. When the page is in the address bar right click and copy then bring it to the comment section and right click again and paste. I hope this helps.
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Comment #17 posted by Storm Crow on January 30, 2006 at 13:09:46 PT
Cannabis and cancer.
Dr.Donald Tashkin at UCLA did studies that showed tham cannabis does damage bronchial tissue. The DEA plays up these findings. What they don't talk about is Tashkin's later study. He compared the cases of 1,209 cancer sufferers. He is quoted in an article (www.counterpunch.org/gardner0722005.html - sorry guys, I'm a computer dummy, so you'll just have to type it in) as saying marijuana smoking "even heavy long term use-does not cause cancer of the lung, upper air ways and esophagus." He was rather suprised by the results. There was a slight negative correlation for lung cancer and cannabis- in other word cannabis users were slightly less likely to get lung cancer than non-users! A Dr. Stephen Sidney (an oncologist) did a study of 64,000 Kaiser patients and found that marijuana users didn't develop lung cancer at a higher rate or die earlier than non-use. So who ya goin' ta believe- the government or the doctors?  
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 12:58:45 PT
Dankhank 
Museman is putting together a page for Jerry. I believe all the information will be on the page he is making for him.
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Comment #15 posted by Dankhank on January 30, 2006 at 12:52:41 PT
Address?
did I miss runruff's address?
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Comment #14 posted by ekim on January 30, 2006 at 11:52:14 PT
runruff please send your info to Mr Stamper 
His book shows the fact that he has listened to others like yourself. I am sad to see how hurtful our Gov't is with your family.
All because it will not admit it has been wrong.http://leap.cc/speakers/stamper.htm
Norm writes in his extraordinary new book, Breaking Rank, "tens of thousands of otherwise innocent Americans incarcerated, many for 20 years, some for life; families ripped apart; drug traffickers and blameless bystanders shot dead on city streets; narcotics officers assassinated here and abroad, with prosecutors, judges, and elected officials in Latin America gunned down for their courageous stands against the cartels; and all those dollars spent on federal, state, and local cops, courts, prosecutors, prisons, probation, parole, and pee-in-the-bottle programs. Even federal aid to bribe distant nations to stop feeding our habit." The war on drugs costs the United States more than 69 billion dollars each year.
 Feb 7 06 Leadership Tomorrow, "Authors Series" 05:30 PM Norm Stamper Seattle Washington USA 
 Former Seattle Chief of Police and author Norm Stamper reads from his book "Breaking Rank" and discusses drug prohibition failures in the United States when he participates in the "Leadership Tomorrow, Authors Series". Location: Greater Seattle Chamber of Commerce, 1301 Fifth Avenue, Seattle, WA Feb 10 06 Las Vegas Futurists 06:00 PM Norm Stamper Las Vegas Nevada USA 
 Advisory Board member and speaker Norm Stamper has a discussion and book signing at Borders Books in Las Vegas. Sponsored by the Las Vegas Futurists. http://www.profuturists.org/ " 
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 11:37:54 PT
Runruff and Everyone
I have an idea. Maybe museman or someone would be willing to copy certain comments and send them to you? Like we could say this is going to be sent to Runruff and if you want to say anything do it now and here. Does this make sense? Nothing that would get you in trouble though.
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Comment #12 posted by runruff on January 30, 2006 at 11:25:29 PT:
contact info.
Hello everyone, Museman is preparing a web site with my contact info, pictures of my mug and my beautiful wife, even our three 
scoobs[doggies]. We are posting our garden, health center, my medical docs, court docs, and stuff.You know If everyone who reads here were to write to me that would send a message that will not be ignored.
The prosecuting attorney said, "Oh yea, you are well known."
He was refering to the DEA, and ONDCP. My video has been out since 1994 over two million people have seen it on the internet[s]. Ovever 100,000 have been circulated. many people
have told me they sent a copy to the white house, verious senators, governors ect. I sent copies to Clinton and Gore.
They know me. Everyone write. We will scare the hubris out of them. I will answer as many as I can. I will answer any questions, look people up, ect.
I look at everything as an opportunity to wreck prohibition.
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on January 30, 2006 at 11:19:19 PT
"don't wanna go this is going to hurt!" 
I can only imagine, and shudder...at how awful it must be for you. Someone. Somewhere. Somehow...has got to open their eyes to the cruelty and stupidity of what this country is doing to so many of it's citizens. I can see it. We all can see it. Why are they so blind?
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 11:07:40 PT
Runruff
Isn't there anything that can be done for you? What does your doctor say about your health now? Will you be able to receive phone calls? Will you be able to have visitors? I have so many questions. Will your wife be ok? I am so sorry.
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Comment #9 posted by runruff on January 30, 2006 at 10:56:21 PT:
Herbdoc, Sam,et. al.
It is right for you to correct me if I am wrong about Allen. It is our responsibility to correct one another when it is right to do so. I don't mean anything personal about Allen. I've never met him. This is the most important subject in our reality right now. I'm willing to sacrfice my freedom if I must for this cause. I know how jesus felt being led to the cross [I am in no way comparing myself to him] but I think I know how he must have felt. I don't wanna go this is going to hurt! I hate this part! But if I must I will. I could have stayed out of trouble. I could have stayed off the radar screen. I had every chance to give up people I don't like. Even people who have ripped me off. But I am keeping my eye on the prize. If I sound to critical it is only because I wish for things to go better. I wish for every chance to correct the lies. Truth has legs
and will stand but needs to be spoken. Truth has wings
and needs to be allowed to soar. Lies are like a broken down old wooden bucket. They don't hold water long enough to make it from the well to the house. If a broken down old
bucket is all one has it will be used for as long as it will make the trip. Thank you for standing up for a good man. It's not really the messenger but the message that matters.Namaste,RR 
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on January 30, 2006 at 10:18:01 PT
herbdoc215
I don't know if you will see this or not but I got an e-mail and it was a phone conversation between a person (don't remember the name) and Steve. He is having a bad time of it. He asked for Tylenol and they said he didn't have a script for it. Tylenol is over the counter. Why does a person need a script for an over the counter drug? If he means Tylenol with Codeine then he could be going thru withdrawal.
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Comment #7 posted by herbdoc215 on January 30, 2006 at 09:55:32 PT
Runruff,  I ain't NEVER seen an editor stick to
ANY agreement no matter what is said or signed....it's nature of the beast!?! I have seen a bunch of interviews, my own and others and it's NEVER reported as per context or replies...hell I've had them twist it, make it up, and just plain mess it up EVERY time. This is what make prohibition have a life of it's own. But ya gotta try, and after a while you at least find out who honest reporters are. Allen is a really good man, and I have had the bad luck of getting to know most of my hero's (it's not usually good?humanity sux?) and Allen has consistanly shown me he was a good man even when nobody was looking which to me says it all? Am traveling on road today...will report in as soon as I arrive in Placer....Peace, 
Steve Tuck 
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Comment #6 posted by runruff on January 30, 2006 at 09:44:17 PT:
If this be the case.
Then I would certianly humble myself before Allen. Seems there could be some sort of contract agreement made with the reporter prior to an interview. I Know how sleazy some reporters are.
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Comment #5 posted by ekim on January 30, 2006 at 09:37:43 PT
what ja think
http://www.fmri.org/wired.htmlDon't Even Think About Lying 
How brain scans are reinventing the science of lie detection.
By Steve Silberman
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Comment #4 posted by Sam adams on January 30, 2006 at 09:37:17 PT
media coverage
Runruff, be careful, St. Pierre might have also spoken much of your rhetoric and the reporter/editor choose to include only these comments. Most interviews go for 30 minutes and then the reporters pick out the statement they want to include in the article. Dealing with the media is like rolling the dice, you never what you're going to get until the article comes out.
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Comment #3 posted by Toker00 on January 30, 2006 at 09:34:54 PT
Facts aren't facts until all questions answered.
While Prevention First works with young adults and children under 18 to help them make healthy drug free choices, they have no overall view on the rights and wrongs of legalization, but they do have facts on marijuana and what it does to the body.According to "facts" Marshall "found", the marijuana produced today is 30 times more potent than when it was produced in the ’60s due to newer methods of growing. When people are smoking marijuana instead of cigarettes, Marshall said the harm to the body is still the same.“[Marijuana is] actually pound for pound more carcinogenic than cigarettes,” Marshall said. “People smoke marijuana; they’re just as likely to get cancer from smoking marijuana regularly as they are from cigarettes or any other substance related to these carcinogens.”Sounds like someone "found" their "facts" at ONDCP. Better title: One National Disaster Called Prohibition. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #2 posted by Runruff on January 30, 2006 at 08:50:13 PT:
Allen was so weak!
We need someone at the head of NORML who can speak with
authority and be heard above the din. He should have said millions have used daily for 10,20,30,40, years. Where are all of cancer patients dying of marijuana smoke? I think if you are there to represent a movement as important as this 
you should have a strong rebuttle to these tired old cliches. If cannabis is used as an expectorant how can it be thought of as the same kind of smoke as tobacco? Allen says
of course burning something and take it into your lungs, it is not a wise decision. You mean like the air in L.A.? But wait! Why didn't he point out that most health conscience
users today use vaporizers, eat it, drink it. 
Sorry Allen but you were weak. Bone up or drop out!
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Comment #1 posted by runruff on January 30, 2006 at 08:29:40 PT:
A drug?
Nuclear power is a drug. Marijuana is a plant!
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