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  Is Pot a Real Bummer? Study Doesn't Think So 

Posted by CN Staff on November 18, 2005 at 07:28:11 PT
By Kenneth Aaron, Staff Writer  
Source: Times Union  

Albany -- Why the long face? Not smoking pot, perhaps?University at Albany psychology professor Mitchell Earleywine and Thomas F. Denson, of the University of Southern California, recently completed a study finding that people who smoke marijuana are less depressed than those who never smoke.
The respondents were in three categories: those who have never smoked, daily smokers and weekly smokers. Both daily and regular uses said they were less depressed.The online study, which involved 4,400 people, was supported by a grant from the Marijuana Policy Project, a group that supports legalizing and regulating the drug. The findings are to be published in the journal Addictive Behaviors.The findings surprised Earleywine."I expected that depression would be even, that the groups wouldn't differ at all," Earleywine said. "I never thought the users would be less depressed."Federal drug officials said Earleywine's work was biased. A policy analyst for the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy said the UAlbany professor is a committed pot-advocacy researcher whose survey was suspect because too many hard-core users responded to it.Earleywine co-authored a study in September showing that marijuana use among teenagers falls in states that allow medical marijuana. And, indeed, his latest work flies in the face of other work that has linked marijuana to depression. Snipped:Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/nobummer.htmSource: Times Union (Albany, NY)Author: Kenneth Aaron, Staff Writer Published: Friday, November 18, 2005 Copyright: 2005 Capital Newspapers Contact: tuletters timesunion.comWebsite: http://www.timesunion.com/CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml

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Comment #89 posted by FoM on December 05, 2005 at 08:22:25 PT
Jose
It's snowing here today and cold and it feels like the holidays already. Take good care.
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Comment #88 posted by jose melendez on December 05, 2005 at 08:14:37 PT
grin
Thank you FoM, I wish all of you happy, peaceful and stress-free holidays as well! (Yes, even you prohibitionists out there . . . )-jm
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Comment #87 posted by FoM on December 05, 2005 at 08:06:46 PT
 Jose 
It's really nice to see you. If you don't get back again for a while I want to wish you happy holidays! 
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Comment #86 posted by jose melendez on December 05, 2005 at 07:44:02 PT
Science debunks False Claims from 'Drug Czar'.
Science again debunks 'Drug Czar'From: http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/news/press05/060605.html "Smoking illegal drugs may make some people “feel better.” However, civilized societies and modern day medical practices differentiate between inebriation and the safe, supervised delivery of proven medicine by legitimate doctors. In 1999, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) published a review of the available scientific evidence in an effort to assess the potential health benefits of marijuana and its constituent cannabinoids. The review concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for any long-term medical use, and a subsequent IOM report declared, “marijuana is not a modern medicine.” - - -Michael Hess, editor of Charlotte, North Carolina's BBSNews has previously dissected such claims here:http://bbsnews.net/bw2003-07-22.html - - -Today, in refutation of John Walters' FALSE CLAIMS about "feeling better" vs. getting better, Australian scientists have confirmed a direct link between stress and illness in neuropeptide Y, (cannabinoid CB(1) receptors are exclusively localized on neuropeptide Y-positive noradrenergic varicosities)*Here is a link: Australian scientists find proof that stress makes you sickhttp://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/04/051205001220.1k2kjzco.htmlalso: Chronic stress induces rapid occlusion of angioplastyhttp://www.news-medical.net/?id=14735 - - -Par for the course, Walters' subsequent reference to the supposed IOM claim about marijuana and modern medicine seems disingenuously out of context, when compared with a National Academies Press Open Book page image presentation OCR (optical character recognition) of the Institute of Medicine's MARIJUANA, MEDICINE, AND SCIENCE at:http://www.nap.edu/books/0309065313/html/1.html"Occasionally, we also refer to “marijuana-based medicines.” These encompass the entire spectrum of potential medications derived from marijuana, from whole-plant remedies to extracts to individual cannabinoids, both natural and synthetic. Marijuana is not a modern medicine. Although people have used marijuana for centuries to soothe a variety of ills, it cannot be considered a medicine in the same sense as, for example, aspirin. Aspirin's chemical cousin, found in willow bark, was long used as a folk remedy for pain. But unlike marijuana, aspirin has been proven safe and effective through rigorous testing. Aspirin tablets contain a pure measured dose of medicine, so they can be relied on to give consistent and predictable results. By contrast, two identical-looking marijuana cigarettes could produce quite different effects, even if smoked by the same person. If one of the cigarettes were made mostly from leaves and the other from flower tops, for instance, they would probably contain different amounts of active chemicals. Growing conditions also affect marijuana's potency, which can vary greatly from region to region and even from season to season in the same place. This variability makes marijuana at best a crude remedy, more akin to herbal supplements such as St. John's wort or ginkgo than to conventional medications. To date, few herbal supplements have been tested for safety and efficacy in the United States, nor are such products subject to mandatory quality controls. Yet despite these drawbacks, increasing numbers of consumers are using herbal treatments, prompted by their desire for “natural” alternatives to man-made medicines. However, another way to view herbal remedies is to recognize that if they are effective, they contain specific active ingredients. Willow bark contains a pain-relieving compound; marijuana contains cannabinoids such as THC, which lessens nausea. Once identified, chemists can duplicate active compounds in the laboratory. Scientists can also use natural compounds as a basis for creating new medicines. By introducing subtle structural changes in natural molecules, chemists have produced drugs that are more effective and easier to administer and that have fewer side effects than their natural counterparts. (from: http://www.factsandcomparisons.com/News/ArticlePage.aspx?cat=update&id=6848 Death rate caused by NSAID/aspirin use was between 21 and 24.8 cases per million patients, respectively. Up to 33% of all NSAID/aspirin deaths were caused by low-dose aspirin use.see also: http://www.reyessyndrome.org/aspirin.htm)So far, a few such analogs or derivatives of cannabinoids are known to exist; others are currently under investigation. Marijuana used as medicine is not a recreational drug. People who use marijuana solely as a medication do so in order to relieve specific symptoms of AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis, and other debilitating conditions. Some do so under the advice or consent of doctors after conventional treatments have failed to help them. In mentioning medical marijuana users, we are referring to people who smoke or eat marijuana exclusively as a treatment for medical symptoms. The fact that many such patients may have prior recreational experience with the drug does not mean that they are using illness as an excuse to get high, although it is possible that some patients might do so. Surveys of marijuana buyers' clubs indicate that most of their members do, in fact, have serious medical conditions." - - - *Referenceshttp://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v25/n1/full/1395639a.html " . . . history of recent marijuana use was found to be associated with an increase of the Y1 mRNA expression levels in the prefrontal cortex. It is difficult to assess fully the significance of this finding considering the limited information available about the effects of marijuana on the NPY system in the brain. In the human brain, it has been shown that cannabinoid receptor binding sites are highly localized to the frontal cortex (Glass et al. 1997). Thus, it is feasible that marijuana could influence the Y1 receptor mRNA-expressing neurons in the prefrontal cortex."and from: http://tinyurl.com/9sc4x (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)Using a spec against the C-terminus of the rat cannabinoid CB(1) receptor and also against neuropeptide Y, ultrastructural evidence was obtained that cannabinoid CB(1) receptors are exclusively localized on neuropeptide Y-positive noradrenergic varicosities.from: http://tinyurl.com/daqdn (springerlink.com)"SR 141716, a selective central CB1 cannabinoid receptor antagonist, markedly and selectively reduces sucrose feeding and drinking as well as neuropeptide Y-induced sucrose drinking in rats. SR 141716 also decreases ethanol consumption in C57BL/6 mice.In contrast, blockade of CB1 receptors only marginally affects regular chow intake or water drinking. The active doses of SR 141716 (0.3-3rmg/kg) are in the range known to antagonize the characteristic effects induced by cannabinoid receptor agonists. These results suggest for the first time that endogenous cannabinoid systems may modulate the appetitive value of sucrose and ethanol, perhaps by affecting the activity of brain reward systems."and from: http://tinyurl.com/9fjse (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)It has been hypothesized that the neuropeptide Y (NPY) system is involved in the pathogenesis of mood disorder. In this study, Y(1) and Y(2) receptor mRNA expression levels were analyzed in the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex of subjects affected with major depression, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia and compared to normal controls. No significant alterations in Y(1) or Y(2) mRNA expression levels were observed between the groups. However, the Y(2) mRNA expression was elevated in layer IV in subjects with suicide as a cause of death. For the Y(1) mRNA expression, there was a negative correlation with increasing subject age in the prefrontal cortex. Analysis of covariance revealed a significant elevation of the Y(1) mRNA expression levels in individuals with a current history of marijuana use but no other drug.See also "You Are Not Allowed to Feel Better ... Got It?": http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8273and: http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/112/3/423 and: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18671.shtml#4more on neuropeptide y and cannabinoids: http://web4health.info/en/med/docs/ed-disorders-addiction.htmlhttp://www.biopsychology.com/index.php?descType=always&id=10&type=keyword&page=0 http://tinyurl.com/bjnxw (sigmaaldrich.com) - - -This notice is hereby posted publicly to report multiple violations of federal crimes**. In forming the Concerned Citizens Coalition to Criminalize Prohibition, WE STRONGLY URGE all federal employees reading this to exercise your rights under the Civil Service Reform Act (5 U.S.C. § 2303) and the Whistleblower Protection Act (5 U.S.C. §§ 2302(b)(8)& (b)(9)), and immediately investigate and disclose the breaches of felony U.S. laws mentioned not only to the courts but also and especially to the public.WARNING: It is a criminal offense to threaten any person who seeks to report federal crimes, per Title 18 U.S.C. û 1513. Retaliating against a witness,
 victim, or an informant.Title 18 U.S.C. û 1512. Tampering with a
witness/informant.Title 18 U.S.C. ß 4 (misprision of felony). Failure to comply with U.S. law does expose you personally to civil litigation, criminal penalties and fines, including but not limited to 
TITLE 15 > CHAPTER 1 > § 15. Suits by persons injured.Jose MelendezCommunications DirectorConcerned Citizens Coalition to Criminalize Prohibition http://www.CCCCP.org888 247-8183- - -** Laws referenced include, but are not limited to:U.S. Constitution Article III, Section. 3. Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.htmlThe False Claims Act, 31 U.S.C. § 3729 et seq., provides for liability for triple damages and a penalty from $5,500 to $11,000 per claim for anyone who knowingly submits or causes the submission of a false or fraudulent claim to the United States. The statute, first passed in 1863, includes an ancient legal device called a 'qui tam' provision (from a Latin phrase meaning 'he who brings a case on behalf of our lord the King, as well as for himself'). This provision allows a private person, known as a 'relator,' to bring a lawsuit on behalf of the United States, where the private person has information that the named defendant has knowingly submitted or caused the submission of false or fraudulent claims to the United States. The relator need not have been personally harmed by the defendant's conduct.http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/pae/Documents/fcaprocess2.pdf
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Comment #85 posted by FoM on November 24, 2005 at 17:10:06 PT
Related Published Letter To The Editor
U.S. Needs To base Drug Policies on Facts 
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 Thursday, November 24, 2005 
University at Albany professor Mitch Earleywine's study is far from the first to suggest that marijuana might actually help relieve depression rather than cause it ("Is pot a real bummer? Study doesn't think so," Nov. 18).
But rather than respond to the actual science, David Murray of the White House drug czar's office responds with a combination of character assassination and outright fiction.Murray's claim that marijuana alters users' body chemistry, so that they become "miserable" if they stop using it, is made up out of thin air.In fact, repeated studies have shown that even the heaviest, long-term marijuana users experience only mild withdrawal symptoms if they quit using marijuana -- rather like what a heavy coffee drinker feels if they give up caffeine.We need drug policies based on science, not science fiction, and that will require a thorough house-cleaning at the White House drug czar's office.BRUCE MIRKENDirector of CommunicationsMarijuana Policy ProjectWashington, D.C. 
 http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=422973&category=OPINION&newsdate=11/24/2005
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Comment #84 posted by Toker00 on November 21, 2005 at 03:21:14 PT
Aloha Telarus
There is a legend on the big island of a tribe of very small people. They built very short walls all over the place. I have seen these walls, but I never saw a minahuni. Does anyone who has visited Hawaii know the story of this legend? Sorry to raise an interest and not provide a story.Hawaii would indeed satisfy my search for Heaven on earth. God did his most artistic work in Hawaii, I believe. Such a peaceful happy place to exist.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #83 posted by Telarus on November 20, 2005 at 19:06:20 PT:
Toker00 -=Hawai'i=-
Glad to know more people from the Rock.....sounds like you had quite a time on the Big-Island and Oahu....*sigh* I miss my fellow Islanders (the people and the plants).Aloha,
Telarus, KSC, KCC, Episkopos Amorphous Dreams Cabal
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Comment #82 posted by FoM on November 20, 2005 at 18:15:34 PT
Mayan
Thank you for the poll. I just voted. It still is at 74%. That's great to know so many people really care about bringing out troops home. We can't win this war so why keep it going? All we'll get out of this are many more dead and injured. I respect the soldiers and it isn't their fault what Bush made them do. I know how my husband was treated when he came home from Vietnam and I don't want that to happen to this generation of war veterans. 
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Comment #81 posted by mayan on November 20, 2005 at 18:00:36 PT
Poll 
Should U.S. troops begin an immediate withdrawal from Iraq?  * 16772 responsesYes - 74%No - 21% 
 I don't know - 5% http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10112386/site/newsweek/#survey
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Comment #80 posted by global_warming on November 20, 2005 at 15:24:47 PT
Dumb Heads
Continue this war on drugs
This war on peopleThis CongressHas fallen shortOn Peace and UnderstandingIts coming at us fastThat spilled blood on that wooden cross,Right here in this November 20In this 21st centuryWhile we pick over the 'bonesPuff our chests in righteousnessMillions of Human BeingsRot in prisons and dungeonsFor receiving that illuminationThat Cannabis Plant has given,End this miserable disguise of humanityWe can forgive, those peopleThat are seeking salvationThe Light of EternityShines upon every soulOne blink of your eyesCan transform and deliver youTo the foot of understandingEnd this prohibition on cannabis 
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Comment #79 posted by Hope on November 20, 2005 at 14:42:20 PT
And
so the price of cannabis would be so low and the herb so easy to come by, that no one would kill anyone over it. There still might be someone who would kill someone over a bale of hay or a pack of cigarettes...but not like now, when cannabis is worth more than pure gold itself, and that "love of money" can bring the worst out fast in the worst of the worst and the greedy. 
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Comment #78 posted by Hope on November 20, 2005 at 14:25:17 PT
JHarshaw comment 77
Sadly, all too true, all too often. That's one of the main reasons this WoD has to end. So they can devote their investigative skills to the things they need to be devoted to. 
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Comment #77 posted by JHarshaw on November 20, 2005 at 13:02:27 PT
Justice
I hope you're right Max but with the Police being so busy fighting the drug war it's hard for them to find time for something like a murder case!!just a thought, peace and pot
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Comment #76 posted by Max Flowers on November 20, 2005 at 12:00:18 PT
And by the way
That's special-circumstances capital murder charges for every one of those scum. Even if only one guy did the shooting, murder in the course of armed robbery in California makes it capital for every one of them who participated. They better hurry up and enjoy their few thousand robbed dollars, because they are running out of time. The laws of karma (and hopefully, law enforcement) are racing up behind them as I write this.
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Comment #75 posted by Max Flowers on November 20, 2005 at 11:54:43 PT
Les Crane murder
They better catch those murdering bastards. Laytonville is a really small town, and those guys were not from far away, I guarantee you. Probably from in town, and knew their victims. If those sheriffs can't find and bust these guys in a town that small, they aren't worth much.You can bet I'll be watching this case... me, and about 1,700 other people who live in that town and just about everyone else in Mendocino county.
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Comment #74 posted by afterburner on November 20, 2005 at 11:54:21 PT
Standing on Higher Ground
Cannabis will not stop being medicinal or spiritual if it becomes commercial except to those whose hearts already *worship* that golden calf, the mean green."walkin' tall is great
if you don't step on the small"remember our world was created for all"--Standing on Higher Ground by James Brown Album -> Love: OVER-DUE 
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Comment #73 posted by FoM on November 20, 2005 at 11:05:08 PT
Mayan
When the damage has been done beyond forgiveness or repair it's over. There comes a time when people can reach that point and I believe Bush and his supporters have reached it. Bush has had plenty of opportunities to listen to the people and he hasn't. It's over for him and history will be brutally honest as it always has been.
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Comment #72 posted by FoM on November 20, 2005 at 10:49:21 PT
Toker00
My husband volunteered for Nam because he was young and didn't know any better. The rules state side were hard but they weren't as strict in Vietnam. He went into the Army when he was 17. As far as the Clinton thing it was a shame that it became public knowledge. That has to be someones worst nightmre. The Iraq War should be public and those responsible must be held accountable. 
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Comment #71 posted by mayan on November 20, 2005 at 10:48:13 PT
Bottomed Out?
I saw a republican strategist on TV suggesting that Bush's numbers have bottomed out and that he can only go up from here. I don't think Bush will bottom out until he hits zero! Even the mainstream polls can't disguise his unpopularity any longer...Bush Approval: Raw Poll Data
http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/pollkatzmainGRAPHICS_8911_image001.gifEven a terror attack or another war can't save the neo-cons. They have dug their own graves.
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Comment #70 posted by Toker00 on November 20, 2005 at 10:14:07 PT
Volunteered, but
I did not go to Nam. I was stationed at Schofield barracks, Oahu. Trained on the Big Island. Met a lot of door gunners fresh from Nam, very "short" and going home. I had an early out under honorable conditions which I don't discuss. I saw men do strange things. One guy challenged the whole company one night after a Bruce Lee movie had ended on base. It took several MP's to subdue him because of his martial arts training. Drug of choice? ALCOHOL. I heard lots of stories from wild eyed soldiers. There was lots of acid trips for some soldiers in downtown Waikiki. International Market Place was THE place for recreational drugs and Island Entertainment. The "Pot heads" hung together with very little ridicule from anyone, except the occasional shake-down for drugs in the lockers. The smell of cannabis was constant when walking through the buildings that housed the 25th Infantry Division U.S.Army.Sexual Morals are strictly limited to consenting legal age adults and not subject to public or government scrutiny. Any forced sex, exhibitionism, or underage sex crimes should be prosecuted per the norm. But ask me if I think possessing a plant is anywhere comparable to rape, or warrants a heavier punishment, and I'll ask you if you are crazy. (Not you, FoM) Because I KNOW the Federal Government is. Come on. Attacking someone in such a very, very personal manner is less a crime than growing, receiving and/or sharing the goodness of the cannabis plant? Having a President who thinks killing more innocent civilians than soldiers is acceptable collateral damage? In a war over lies I firmly believe he knew were lies? His days are numbered. Listen Pols, if you must have sex in the White House, KEEP THE KNOWLEDGE OF IT TO THE CONSENTING PARTIES AND DON'T TALK ABOUT IT ON THE TELEPHONE TO ANYONE! At least till after the administration has left office, K? The Iraq war is over. At least for our part. But we MUST continue the pressure on our representatives none the less. Timetable on complete withdrawal? DEC. 2006. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #69 posted by John Tyler on November 20, 2005 at 09:01:52 PT
civil disobedience
What we have here with regard to cannabis prohibition is civil disobedience on a massive, massive scale. Over the last few years on a regular basis three quarters of a million people a year are arrested and jailed for cannabis possession. We cannot arrest our way out of this situation. Only the end of cannabis prohibition will end this problem. 
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Comment #68 posted by FoM on November 20, 2005 at 08:40:56 PT
Toker00
You volunteered for Vietnam. My husband volunteered to go to Nam too. He did two tours from 69 to 71. He is so non violent after hunting people for a living. That's what he said to me. He can't stand guns.A question. You mentioned morality. Which one is more immoral. A president having a mistress or a President that kills women, men, and children by invading a sovereign Nation?Private morality is personal and should be between the wife and husband. Public morality like what Bush has done causes injury to all of us and the world. Why is sex the important moral issue with the right wing people? I never will understand that.
Freedom To Exhale
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Comment #67 posted by Rainbow on November 20, 2005 at 08:08:12 PT
Who dunit
Let's look at the establishment. I won't put it past the federales to do this. They have done other things why not a raid to scare people.Yes if there was no prohibition people would not die over a good plant. Who is in charge of prohibition? The government so actually they are at fault. Politicians are doing this to our numbers, they need to be held accountable.Cheers,
Rainbow
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Comment #66 posted by FoM on November 20, 2005 at 07:19:38 PT
Another Update On MMJ Activist's Murder
Pot Activist Likely Knew Killers: http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051120/NEWS/511200334/1033/NEWS01
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Comment #65 posted by Toker00 on November 20, 2005 at 04:37:10 PT
Mayan
And remember "Get over it"? It was very scary to express objection to this admins. in the beginning. Even people I had known as lifelong Democrats voted their "Christian conscience". But I made some of them at least listen to the question "Why were we attacked, really?" I had educated myself about Bush and Co. before the 2000 election and all but begged everyone I know not to vote for the prick. Everyone was so sure Bush would bring "dignity" and "honor" back to the White House after Clinton's sexual gaff. Yeah, right. I don't think there was THAT much dignity and honor there before Clinton. Most of it was covered with lies.It is truly rewarding to see that 65%+ of Americans now see what most of us here saw Pre-Stolen Election. Thanks to everyone who has kept the hammer pounding on Bushco's head. The structure for impeachment is being laid.Springsteen is not a technical musician, but he is definitely a stylist in the American tradition. He is "The Boss". Republicans simply hate him for helping to expose their true colors. The man deserves to be recognized.What I do, I do as a team member. I am one of many Americans waking to the fact that "WE" have to do something. If all you do is speak your mind at an appropriate moment in defense of truth, then you are my team mate. All the players on a team have their positions. I happen to be stupid enough to take a front line position. (Yeah I was dumb enough to volunteer during Nam, too, so?) That's no more important that a softly spoken truth, in the face of adversity. I DO remember. And I am PISSED OFF, too, Mayan!Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!   
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Comment #64 posted by mayan on November 20, 2005 at 03:44:59 PT
Toker00
Oh, yeah. Thanks for what you do! 
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Comment #63 posted by mayan on November 20, 2005 at 03:32:03 PT
Toker00
Remember how Clear Channel was bribing folks to attend their miniscule pro-war rallies with hotdogs and soft drinks when the war started and anyone who opposed the war was unpatriotic? Remember how it was just SO wrong to favor peace? I remember how Americans were coerced and intimidated to go along with the lies and murders. I remember. I remember how millions of folks around the world marched before the war even started! I think most Americans do. I,myself, am pissed off!I'm not a huge Boss fan but I respect his views. This just makes the liars look as wicked as they are...Republicans Stop NJ Senators From Honoring Bruce Springsteen: 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1119-08.htm
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Comment #62 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 18:14:35 PT
Toker00
Politics leave me feeling so empty inside. People give me hope. People will change the system to a better one or we might as well enjoy life now because it will only go down hill. If people don't rise up and care what good is a big corporation if no one can buy what they are trying to sell? We the People are the country and we must try to make this world a better place.
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Comment #61 posted by Toker00 on November 19, 2005 at 17:59:17 PT
Politics Smolitics FoM
Yeah, the Dems may get smart real quick. I don't write off the Repub party completely, but they are very, very damaged. Clinton's damage was a joke. Bush's and the Repub. Neocons' damage will last for generations. Screw politics. Let's just get together and get it together. Let the War-Madness corporations collapse. Let the whole thing collapse so we can begin renewing our world while the damage is not irreversible. If we wait too long, nothing we do will matter. The corporations that support the people and not the New World Order will be the ones to help re-build our Constitutional Republic based on Humanism and not Capitalism. A New World IS possible! Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #60 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 17:14:13 PT
Dancing in the Dark
Grenada to JerusalemEternity is foreverCabbabis is Forever
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Comment #59 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 17:05:08 PT
Off Topic: Off To War
Off To War is now on the Discovery Times Channel. It is an excellent series with a new episode at 10 PM. It sure shows the failure of this war and the courage of our young men in uniform.http://times.discovery.com/convergence/offtowar/offtowar.html
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Comment #58 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 16:55:52 PT
Twinkle
The next breathBlink, You have the LightFrom DenverAnd Jerusalem
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Comment #57 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 16:29:12 PT
Free CheeseBurgers
cheeseburgers and eternityend cannabis prohibition
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Comment #56 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 16:05:13 PT
Take another 'hit
CannabisIs a portal
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 16:04:45 PT
Toker00
Thank you for the link. I bookmarked it. If I was into a political party it would be the Democratic Party. Next year I told my husband when we vote for our new governor that I will vote for all Democrats on the ballot. I never understood what made Republicans act like they are so special. When someone makes themselves out to be superior to me then I don't listen to what they say about issues. No one is better then another. Some might be richer or better looking but that doesn't make them better. 
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Comment #54 posted by Toker00 on November 19, 2005 at 15:54:53 PT
Republicans may become extinct. OT
FoM, I know this is not a political board, but if you will allow me to post a link, this is what the Progressive Democrats want you to know about the fraudulent resolutions put forth in the House by Repubs. as a sick joke. We need to replace our entire government.http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=423I don't want to leave without saying Normlhouston had a table at the anti-war rally today. I was impressed with the number of people visiting their table. I bought a CD by Tom the Folksinger, who performed today. "Lounge Songs Of The Leisure Suit Buddha". Tom Loud, your friendly neighborhood folksinger.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #53 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 15:49:14 PT
Imagine
Nurses for CannabisPoor and sick people for CannabisRich and famous for CannabisDenver has votedThe opinion of this large group of people'Has agreedThat dreaded CannabisIs Ok, it is acceptableTo smoke, vaporize, and ingestCannabis
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Comment #52 posted by Hope on November 19, 2005 at 15:29:07 PT
Imagine
When I went for an MRI the other day, I had to smile at the logo and slogan on the front window. They must have been John Lennon fans. It had the name of of the Magnetic Resonance Imaging company...then under it in quotes:"Imaging All The People..."Glad you are home safe and had a good day, Toker00. Thank you.
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Comment #51 posted by global_warming on November 19, 2005 at 15:28:57 PT:
re:comment 35
"They've taken and kept from the people, to the best of their ability, one of the most helpful things mankind has ever been given from the Earth.They've robbed themselves, as well as everyone else, of this great gift to mankind. "That is how large a Gift cannabis is, it is only for the hIgh pRiests and those welcomed fattened wannabe servants, who profess total surrender to that gOlden calf, the rest of you'all, can go to everlasting hEll.
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 14:47:16 PT
Toker00 
Thank you for sharing your day with us. It doesn't surprise me about the Republicans. I don't think I'm wrong when I say that Republicans like to kill and fight and shoot guns. I also believe that Republicans that invest would invest in companies that make guns and bombs and helicopters and things needed for war. 
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Comment #49 posted by Toker00 on November 19, 2005 at 14:37:29 PT
Thanks FoM, Hope.
I doubt it will be on CNN, but the protest was covered by a couple of local stations. Not as big a turn out as it would have been when it was originally scheduled, but blame that on Rita. The crowd was loud, enthused and peaceful. The musicians were very good, and the speakers poured their hearts out, like we do here. For the first time, there was absolutely NO opposition. NO ONE came to support the war, and when the crowd was asked if there were Democrats there, they responded. Greens, responded. Communists, responded. Republicans, dead silence. I had to crack up. Twenty-nine groups were represented. One group sang IMAGINE and had the crowd in a peaceful sway. It was fun, the weather was great, and I'll be there when we have the next one. For the impeachment of Bush and his entire administration. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 13:40:41 PT
Hope
I wondered that too. Since a person doesn't use their name most times it would be impossible to know. When a plant can cost more then gold tragedies will happen. Take the money out of it and it wouldn't happen anymore. Cannabis would cost so little if it wasn't illegal. 
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on November 19, 2005 at 13:32:38 PT
Les Crane
This makes me so sad. I was wondering...do we know that Mr. Crane wasn't one of the Revs. that post here?
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Comment #46 posted by dongenero on November 19, 2005 at 11:57:45 PT
sad
God that article is sad!It is time to end PROHIBITION!It promotes violence, just as it did when applied to alcohol....but on a greater scale than it did with alcohol.
Remember the St. Valentines day massacre? Still infamous....well, it was seven people. Today people hardly bat an eye at prohibition related murder. How many have died? How many more will have to?
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 11:31:41 PT
More Details on The Murdered MMJ Activist
Pot Dispensary Owner Slain at Home: http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/Stories/0,1413,91~3089~3136805,00.html
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 10:02:13 PT
whig 
Thank you for the article. I keep looking for a newspaper, AP or Reuters to run this story. As soon as I find one I sure will post it.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 09:01:42 PT
Hope
We watched C-Span last night and I was so angry. It seems that Republicans look to trip up good efforts so they can say see they aren't good people who are against the war. That's very dirty. They did that to Kerry too and it made me very angry. If they can't play fair then what hope do we have but taking it to the streets? Tonight is the final episode in Off To War. I really like these young men. They are good boys but I am especially fond of the young man named Matthew and his loving Mom. I won't miss this tonight.http://times.discovery.com/convergence/offtowar/video/video.html
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on November 19, 2005 at 08:52:48 PT
That Stunt they....the Republicans
pulled about the vote to pull out of Iraq was so stupid and juvenile...and just an insult to all of those who treasure those men and women that have gone over there as our country's military.I appreciate your efforts, too, Toker00.I hope all the protesters are ok and it stays peaceful, especially Toker00.
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Comment #41 posted by Patrick on November 19, 2005 at 07:46:59 PT
Growing Concern Over Growing 'Bible'
Here’s the essence of the rift between us and the prohibitionists and specifically why the Constitution is on our side in the debate over cannabis and the drug war in general..Ginger is shocked and angry, "There's no restriction on the selling of the book."Our Constitution granted Freedom of the Press. She wants to ban books.Funny that in a country founded on the principle of freedom, we have the prohibitionist that wants to restrict, censor, and make a crime out of the things that they merely find offensive.This Ginger is stuck in what Reverend Jim said in comment #24 and that is… Value hierarchy demonstrates the inadequacies of the simplistic model of good and evil.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 07:40:11 PT
Patrick 
Thanks Patrick. I just had the hardest time years ago trying to figure out a name to use. I didn't want a user name to give away if I was a man or a woman because I think that is wise. The name has stuck. It's odd I know but it's way too late in the game of cannabis prohibition to even consider changing and I have become very accustomed to it. I think it helps to have a friend to help bring change to the current laws surrounding marijuana.***Thanks Afterburner.I tried everything I could think of last weekend to hear Neil but that one channel will not work for me but any other radio station works fine. The Internet is a tempermental thing sometimes.
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Comment #39 posted by Patrick on November 19, 2005 at 07:27:44 PT
FoM
I never thought to you ask directly what FoM stood for during all these years. I gathered through the threads that your real name was Martha and here is a partial list of some of the ideas I recall having over the years.Freedom of MarijuanaFree our MarijuanaFirst on MarijuanaFuture of MarijuanaFlying on MarijuanaFinicky over Marijuanasemper Fidelis on MarijuanaFix our Meal Mom /just kidding/:)Friend of Marijuana that’s a great acronym!!!
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Comment #38 posted by afterburner on November 19, 2005 at 07:27:16 PT
OT Tomorrow on Legends of Rock, Pink Floyd Part 4
Sunday, 9 pm to 10 pm on The Mighty Q. Rebroadcast Tuesday early morning, 12 mid to 1 am. Also available by podcast.Be well. "Don't give up the ship."
Classic Rock Q107
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 07:19:36 PT
If Cannabis Was Legal Would This Have Happened?
Laytonville Marijuana Guru Shot To Death***2 others beaten in home; no suspects, but officials believe killing related to pot growingSaturday, November 19, 2005 
A Laytonville pot guru who founded two Mendocino County medicinal cannabis dispensaries was shot to death during an apparent robbery in his home early Friday morning.Les Crane, who called his pot dispensaries churches and referred to himself as a reverend, said he was in the business to help ailing people, not to make money. He had said he had nearly 1,000 patients.He was killed at about 2:30 a.m. Friday in his home, which is about a mile from the center of Laytonville, a town of about 1,300 with a few stores along Highway 101.Two other people in Crane's home at the time of the shooting were beaten. Their names were unavailable Friday.Complete Article: http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051119/NEWS/511190303/1033/NEWS01
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on November 19, 2005 at 07:08:33 PT
Toker00 
I want you to know that I appreciate your stand. This administration is really bad and done so much harm. I watched C-Span last night and seeing how the Republicans tried to twist the issue of the war it made me very angry but it also reminds me of how bad they are. We the people are the ones that count and now is the time for the people to take a stand. Let us know how the protest march goes. War is hell and war that has no purpose from the very beginning is immoral beyond belief. I hope that someday we will be liked in the world or at least admired but Bush might have ended any hope for us because of his actions. One person might have ruined it for all of us and that is a terrible thought to me.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on November 19, 2005 at 06:20:05 PT
Nuevo Mexican, Jim Lunsford, Mayan
Thanks for your "predictions". All very interesting.About Whig's report...I got one about the same thing from Michelle Kubby this morning. It's getting more clear everyday that the prohibitionists, from the very start, have done something terrible to a lot of people (we knew that) and society in general (we knew that, too). I guess they "meant well", but they sure didn't "do well".They've taken and kept from the people, to the best of their ability, one of the most helpful things mankind has ever been given from the Earth.They've robbed themselves, as well as everyone else, of this great gift to mankind. (I'm thinking now of those miscreants that want to wipe it from the face of the earth. Theirs is true foolishness and ignorance and overblown ego of apocalyptic proportions!)
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Comment #34 posted by Toker00 on November 19, 2005 at 03:13:55 PT
Protest the War in Iraq!
I wonder if CNN will cover our march? We are the only major city having a rally against the war in Iraq today. Join us in solidarity of spirit to end these wars for profit. Some people think we can't change things, that the powers that be hold all the cards. I say Bullsh*t! So do millions of other people! We have to replace the leadership of, not just this country, but the world. Mother Earth is the only vehicle we have to maintain our place in the universe. We kill her, we kill ALL of us. Let's stop the madness, arrest and confine ALL war-mongers. Here, that would be Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, etc. There is plenty of room for them in the prisons they built for us! We can make the shift from war to peace, but we have to do what it takes to get there. Demanding an end to war and destruction and the profits made from them is the FIRST STEP. We need large sections of our military and police agencies to start standing down from orders that are obviously unjust for all. We can't control from the top down. We have to control from the bottom up. Think, think, think people! What must we do to end the madness of war???Marching from Market Square Park to City Hall today. In Houston, Texas, United States of America, to help bring an end to War-Madness. I'll report tonight. Love, Peace, and Understanding, not hate, war, and greed.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBTION NOW! 
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Comment #33 posted by whig on November 18, 2005 at 22:41:19 PT
More medical news
Marijuana's Active Ingredient Kills Leukemia CellsNovember 2005The New Drug Study Group in London discovered that Δ9-THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, works to kill leukemia cells by affecting the gene, MKP3, which may serve as a critical target for new drugs that are less psychoactive and less controversial.While leukemia treatment is largely successful, some patients cannot be treated with conventional therapy; 25 percent of children fail treatment, leaving them with a poor-prognosis outcome. Scientists have previously reported that Δ9-THC has anti-cancer properties, so its use as an anti-leukemia drug may be promising, however, the psychoactive side effects, as well as its current legal status, complicate its use in cancer chemotherapy. Researchers are now trying to identify the molecular pathways targeted by Δ9-THC in order to develop new drugs that combat the same disease-pathway without the unwanted side effects.In a study published in the February 2005 issue of Blood, Dr. Wai Man Liu and colleagues at St. Bartholomew's Hospital in London reported that Δ9-THC induced cell death in a panel of leukemia cells, including two AML cell lines. Surprisingly, Dr. Lui's group found that neither CB1 or CB2—the two receptors thought to mediate Δ9-THC effects—were involved in the leukemia cell death. Activation of the CB1 receptor in the brain produces the psychoactive effects associated with marijuana use. The CB2 receptor is usually found in cells of the immune system and may regulate immune function. Moreover, the anti-leukemia properties of Δ9-THC did not involve the p53 protein, which is often involved in cancer cell death; thus Δ9-THC did not appear to function through known pathways.Liu and colleagues used Affymetrix microarrays to investigate the mechanism of cell death induced by Δ9-THC. In doing so, they found that one gene, MKP3, an inhibitor of the MAPK pathway, was significantly induced. This was unexpected, but provocative as the MAPK pathway is thought to be involved in tumor cell survival. Further experiments confirmed that Δ9-THC inhibited the MAPK pathway in leukemia cells, providing both a mechanism and a potential target pathway for other anti-leukemia drugs.Using the Affymetrix Human Genome U133A 2.0 Arrays, the authors could simultaneously detect changes from more than 18,000 human genes in cells treated with Δ9-THC. This allowed the team to analyze thousands of genes beyond those previously thought to play a role in leukemia cell survival and death. The unbiased approach allowed the researchers to identify MKP3 and unravel the genetic pathways targeted by Δ9-THC.Liu and his team have begun to uncover the mechanism by which Δ9-THC kills those cells and potentially promotes longer-term survival. This is a crucial first step towards the much-needed development of new therapies that can eradicate this deadly disease of affecting millions of children and adults worldwide.
Marijuana's Active Ingredient Kills Leukemia Cells
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 22:09:38 PT
 boballen1313
I want you to mention that I can't remember the last time that I have had to delete anyones comments. I remove accidental double posts but that's all. I don't think I've had to delete anyone's post for at least a year.
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Comment #31 posted by boballen1313 on November 18, 2005 at 22:02:14 PT:
WHO CAN TRUST A POTHEAD?
I trust potheads. I trust my dealer. I trust marijuana. Over forty years of smoking elegance and the folks i put my trust in aint in the government. I got a real kick while i was downunder... the Gypsy Jokers of Australia have a motto that makes me glad... "Gypsy Jokers an alternative to traditional government" I aint a joker but you got to love the insinuation. i realize most of my posts have been deleted but i hope to break thru once in awhile with some issue for the brain tissue... peace, boballen13 smoke the dank
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 19:09:19 PT
Off Topic: C-Span
C-Span is far from a quiet channel tonight. I sure appreciate Rep John Murther for standing up like he has. He is speaking now. I also appreciate Senator Kerry for standing up for him like he has.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 18:49:52 PT
Mendocino County Medical Pot Guru Slain
November 18, 2005Laytonville, Calif. -- A Laytonville pot guru who founded two Mendocino County medicinal cannabis clubs was shot to death during a robbery in his home early this morning.Authorities say Les Crane's death could be related to his marijuana-growing and dispensing activities.Two other people at Crane's home were beaten during the robbery. One suffered head injuries, the other a broken arm.Both have been released from the hospital.Police have no suspects.Copyright 2005 Associated Presshttp://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=4141192&nav=9qrx
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 18:34:49 PT

Growing Concern Over Growing 'Bible'
November 18, 2005Here's a debate about what's appropriate and what's not sparked by one woman's trip to a Valley bookstore. She's shocked by some literature she came across, namely a book about some questionable horticulture. It's a guide to growing marijuana and it's for retail sale on bookshelves. Nothing illegal about it, though it's enough to raise one woman's brow. Growing marijuana is illegal. Selling marijuana is illegal. Smoking marijuana is illegal. But Ginger Cochran is angry. "Outrage," she says. "And I called my mom to throw a fit about it." A fit about being able to read about marijuana, something she discovered at a recent trip to her local Books-A-Million. "I stopped in to do a little browsing and was in the gardening section actually looking for a container gardening book," she explains. "Right smack dab in the middle of the shelf was "The Cannabis Grow Bible. Sure enough it was a book on how to grow pot for recreational and medicinal uses." We stopped in to check it out. And on the gardening aisle, "The Cannabis Grow Bible," just in front a title called "Marijuana Growers Guide." "Anybody's teenager can walk in there and pick that up," she says. "There's no restriction on the selling of the book." We called Books-A-Million corporate and were told the person we need to speak with travels from one store to another and the best way to reach her was by e-mail. We did that. As of this publication, we're awaiting word back. Ginger also called. She had more luck. "She did state to me also that they deliberately didn't carry certain magazines that promoted growing pot or that lifestyle," she says. "And I appreciated her telling me that." Ginger says she was also told that those books must've ended up on the shelves on accident--placed there after someone ordered the books on-line but never actually picked them up. Copyright 2000 - 2005 WorldNow and WAFFhttp://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=4140482
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Comment #26 posted by mayan on November 18, 2005 at 18:22:41 PT

My Prediction
Bush will appear to get nailed for the crimes of 9/11 but remember...he is merely a puppet. The fact that Professor Steve Jones was allowed on Tucker Carlson's show is indicitave that the fix is in. The folks who really orchestrated 9/11 will just install another puppet to pick up where Bush left off. Bush is damaged goods and can't garner any more support for further wars to advance the PNAC agenda. He is now just a "useless idiot".We have 14 PERMANENT military bases in Iraq. They aren't going anywhere. The neo-cons have already committed to their agenda and there is no turning back for them now. What country lies between Afghanistan and Iraq? Iran. Syria is on the list also. The grand prize will be Saudi Arabia and all of their oil. If the neo-cons and globalists don't get what they want they will attempt to take everyone else down with them. The sh*t will soon hit the fan.Perle says out with the Saudis:
http://tinyurl.com/botn2THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...Tucker Carlson, PNAC & 9/11 - Another PNAC 9/11 Connection:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=193Prof. Jones "Bows Out of Limelight;" Talks To Arctic Beacon In What He Says Will Be His Last Media Appearance:
http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/37516.htmBelieve 9/11 Was an Inside Job? Leave the Country! 
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=125Crooked Cops and 9/11: 
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/11/crooked-cops-and-9-11.htmlTime to Denounce 9/11 Junk Science:
http://www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/911junkscience.htmlREOPEN911.org & TvNewsLIES.org Working Together:
http://tvnewslies.org/html/tvnl___reopen911_org.htmlFollow the money.
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Comment #25 posted by global_warming on November 18, 2005 at 17:43:58 PT

Hope and faith
Do you have a soul?Who? owns Eternity?It is 'not he human landlord,
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Comment #24 posted by Jim Lunsford on November 18, 2005 at 16:55:47 PT

Hope
In response to your question as to what qualifies as "shortly", a few months ago I offered our friend Jose a prediction of this year. Of course, I'm not a psychic, but I can see patterns in the newspapers as well as anyone else. Riots in France, multi-fuel vehicles from Brazil, loads of newspaper coverage from even the major players about the medical benefits of Cannabis, global warming concerns, environmentalism, the upcoming impeachment of the president, etc. So many little whirlwinds of discontent on a global scale. I could be wrong, of course. We could choose to have the CSA take precedent over Religious Freedom (and every other freaking right we have), and we could continue to allow so much more that we don't want, but I am an optimist. I believe our species can move through this chaos of change and transform itself into something worth being a part of. As it stands, we humans are a pretty pathetic bunch. We've always chosen war over peace, since time immemorial. I am what they call a triple-veteran, and I hate war for different reasons than most. I believe that the concept of war is outdated. That a truly free country would set such a standard for prosperity and compassion, it would spend it's time helping other nations achieve their own state of abundance.Scarcity economics is also an outdated phenomenon, in my opinion anyway. The pie is ever-expanding if it is not wasted. Or hoarded. Or marketed to death in the form of fads delivered to the consumer zombies of the TV world. But then again, I did say I am an optimist. So I will naturally find the good in most situations. Peace to all, Rev JimRev Jim LunsfordFirst Cannabist ChurchValue hierarchy demonstrates the inadequacies of the simplistic model of good and evil.
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Comment #23 posted by observer on November 18, 2005 at 14:28:49 PT

self-reporting is bad, now?
"I'm not at all surprised that people who are daily smokers self-report that they feel pretty good," said David Murray, a policy analyst with the White House drug office. Marijuana alters users' body chemistry so they get miserable after they stop, he said.Chuckle. So, Mr Propaganda, when people "self-report" it is suspect - if the self-reporting conflicts with the party line? "Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind." - George Orwell
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 12:12:15 PT

Nuevo Mexican 
I hope you are right about the war. It wasn't a war as much as an invasion of a nation that never attacked us. Anyone remember who Bin Laden is or was? He was the one that needed to be caught and punished but because of the way we go and bomb and bomb only Mothers, Fathers and Children die.
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Comment #21 posted by siege on November 18, 2005 at 12:05:05 PT

O T OFFSPRIN DIED RATS ATE GENETICALLY ENGINEEREDG
he Russian scientist planned a simple experiment to see if eating genetically modified (GM) soy might influence offspring. What she got, however, was an astounding result that may threaten a multi-billion dollar industry.With billions of dollars invested in GM foods, no adverse finding has yet been sufficient to reverse the industry’s growth in the US. It may take some dramatic, indisputable, and life-threatening discovery. That is why Ermakova’s findings are so important. If the study holds up, it may topple the GM food industry.http://www.newswithviews.com/Smith/jeffrey8.htmhttp://www.seedsofdeception.com/utility/showArticle/?objectID=298http://www.seedsofdeception.com/utility/showArticle/?objectID=296

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Comment #20 posted by nuevo mexican on November 18, 2005 at 11:55:22 PT

Hope: Six Months and we're gone!
And the pullout should begin Jan. 1st, possibly even sooner, pre-Christmas, 12/15, (huge full moon with Pluto conjunct, War is OVer!)as the heat is on, can you say 'John Murtha!'Contact your reps, and congress-critters, and support those calling for withdrawal, and email war-supporting pols that you are done with America being a spin-off of bushes Hitlerian fantasy!The war on terror, is really the a bushwellian Victory of Fear, and should be called such.Bush is the world's biggest terrorist, and the Repugs AND the media should be held accountable, and will!The uni-verse ALWAYS has the last word, just look at the current landscape, and reflect on the fact the Saturn, the Taskmaster is on Bushes 11 degree Leo Rising, and will take him even further down, the question is, how far will he take us with him?Thank you Saturn, Father Time, Lord of KARMA! You go, guy!Love is all you need! J. Lennon
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 11:40:54 PT

Siege
Thanks!
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 11:37:16 PT

kaptinemo
I guess you can tell I have never travel outside the USA because I thought a person needed a passport to go anywhere outside the states.
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Comment #17 posted by siege on November 18, 2005 at 11:26:50 PT

O T,, FEC Rules Bloggers Are Journalists
The Federal Election Commission today issued an advisory opinion that finds the Fired Up network of blogs qualifies for the "press exemption" to federal campaign finance laws. The press exemption, as defined by Congress, is meant to assure "the unfettered right of the newspapers, TV networks, and other media to cover and comment on political campaigns." The full ruling is available at the FEC site. A noteworthy passage: "...an entity otherwise eligible for the press exception would not lose its eligibility merely because of a lack of objectivity..."http://www.lot49.com/2005/11/fec_rules_bloggers_are_journal.shtml

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Comment #16 posted by kaptinemo on November 18, 2005 at 11:25:48 PT:

OT: Why the Canuck border will not be closed
I've been saying why the prohibs threat to close the Canadian border to punish Canada for 'liberalizing' its' cannabis laws is just empty talk, for economic reasons alone. Now, here's an oblique confirmation:Passports to hurt trade and tourism http://tinyurl.com/9ru8fIf they're in a tiff over passports, what do you think a full-on bottleneck at the border would do to their precious profits? They mention the "just-in-time" business practice of not maintaining warehousing to save on costs as being the primary reason for not doing this kind of border slowdown...just as has been mentioned here, again and again.Keep running your yaps, prohibs; the support of the business people who give money to you is only about as long as their patience at losing profits thanks to harebrained schemes like border bottlenecks to punish another nation for rationalizing their drug laws. Shutdown the border? Squeeze those fat, politically connected businessmen who have the ear of their bought-and-paid-for pols? Suuuuuure they will. Suuure.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 11:07:52 PT

Hope
Glad you liked it.
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on November 18, 2005 at 10:21:57 PT

I guessed it was that!
Friend of Marijuana! I've thought that was what it might stand for.Cool.
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 10:11:16 PT

Hope
I had a hard time trying to figure out something to use as a name long ago and Friend of Marijuana came to mind so I guess that's what it stands for. 
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on November 18, 2005 at 10:05:49 PT

Nuevo Mexican
Can you elaborate on "shortly"? "Shortly" in six months or "shortly" in three years?I'm very curious about your prediction. I haven't seen one in a long time, people have naturally become leery of it, and I'm kind of "hungry" for one.:0)
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on November 18, 2005 at 10:02:25 PT

Nuevo Mexican  comment 9  and FoM
I don't take much stock in predictions...but I sure hope you're right."Cannabis goes legal, and the War comes to an end shortly! Divine Timing!""shortly!" That part is the part I like the most.FoM is the Grand Dame of Cannabis law reform, no doubt.FoM, may I ask you something...of course you don't have to answer. What does FoM stand for?
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 09:55:16 PT

Nuevo Mexican 
That was so very kind of you. You're special to me too. It's good to know you read and care. That's what really matters.
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Comment #9 posted by nuevo mexican on November 18, 2005 at 09:50:39 PT

FOM! Tell Stick we Love you!
maybe not the way he does, but you are the best!
I don't post much, as the tide has turned and the writing is on the wall! 
Cannabis goes legal, and the War comes to an end shortly!
Divine Timing!
I love your passion, your integrity, and just being there for all of us, all of the time!
Peace!
NM

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Comment #8 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 09:33:15 PT

Toker00
That's wonderful news. It isn't what Party is in power or what a politician says or doesn't say but it's the PEOPLE that will make the difference. When the voices of WE THE PEOPLE get loud enough laws and bad policies will change!
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Comment #7 posted by Toker00 on November 18, 2005 at 09:28:51 PT

FoM
Houston, Texas, Sat. Nov. 19, 2005. Gather at Market Square Park, march (yes, we finally obtained a marching permit!) to City Hall. Protest and Rally. Be there if you can, Texas C-newsers. This is the one Rita blew out of town when it was originally scheduled. 25 Groups will be participating. Bring signs and banners, folks. Let's get the kids and the men and women back home! Defend Democracy, not Capitalism!Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 08:53:27 PT

One More Off Topic Post
I am so against war because war makes some people very rich at the expense of our young men and women who are in the armed services. I thought this was interesting.***Withdrawal is Not Retreathttp://blogs.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2005/11/withdrawal_is_n.htmlI wish we had learned something from Vietnam.I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag: http://www.countryjoe.com/col9.ramCakewalk to Baghdad:
http://www.countryjoe.com/cakewalk.ram
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 08:39:13 PT

Off Topic: I Hope Our Troops Come Home Soon
Iraq Turning Point?***By Howard Kurtz, Washington Post Staff WriterFriday, November 18, 2005John Murtha is now off the reservation.If I had to pick one of the least likely candidates to demand an immediate pullout from Iraq, the Democratic congressman from Pennsylvania would be right up there. Vietnam veteran, big Pentagon supporter, rarely makes waves on the Hill. We're not talking Ted Kennedy here. He supported the Gulf war and the Iraq war. And yet the guy holds a news conference yesterday and says it's time to go because "our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency."http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/11/18/BL2005111800493.html
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 08:10:00 PT

Why is This Happening?
When I was young I liked to spin in circles until I got high. Nothing bad like what you posted EJ.
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Comment #3 posted by E_Johnson on November 18, 2005 at 08:07:14 PT

Thrill seeking kids turn to choking instead of pot
There is a horribly sad story that appeared in today's LA Times: parents found their daughter choked herself to death as part of a self-asphyxiation game that seems to be spreading among teenagers these days. Here is the kicker -- they do it to get high!This paragraph I found chilling:"These are typically not kids who are using drugs, but they're doing it for the same reason that kids use substances," explains Julie Rosenbluth of the American Council for Drug Education. "It's an opportunity to get high that doesn't have the stigma [of drugs] attached to it."OMigosh, choking yourself doesn't have the stigma of drugs??? Maybe then we've put too much stigma on drugs and not enough stigma on others ways kids can get some thrills from taking risks.This is so sad and horrible. I'll bet the parents wished she smoked pot instead. How do you prevent something like this? At least pot you can smell. How do you tell whether your thirteen year old is upstairs quietly choking herself into unconsciousness in her closet?What a nightmare. I hope they find a way to stop this before it kills more kids.
Choking game
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Comment #2 posted by runderwo on November 18, 2005 at 07:56:51 PT

earleywine
"Federal drug officials said Earleywine's work was biased. A policy analyst for the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy said the UAlbany professor is a committed pot-advocacy researcher whose survey was suspect because too many hard-core users responded to it."Note that the methodology is not attacked, just the person. I would think hard-core users responding would be what the government wants, since they have always maintained that heavy cannabis use causes depression, schizophrenia, etc?Reactionary distrust of science, while entertaining, is very tedious.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on November 18, 2005 at 07:43:59 PT

AP: MMJ Bill Planned for Next Session
Medical Marijuana Bill Planned for Next Session ***The Associated Press Friday, November 18, 2005 LITTLE ROCK — A legislative committee heard testimony Thursday from backers of legal use of marijuana as a medicine for suffering patients.Rep. Lindsley Smith, D-Fayetteville, said she may file a bill during the 2007 session to make medical marijuana legal in Arkansas. The bill would make the drug available to patients who are terminally ill, allowing them to grow and distribute marijuana among themselves for medical use.Dr. Phillip A. Denney of Carmichael, Calif., testified that since 1996 he has been prescribing marijuana for patients with chronic pain and those who are terminally. California legalized the practice in 1996. Denny said patients using the drug should not be forced to register because that could lead to harassment or arrest.Nine states have legalized the practice, legislators were told, and medical marijuana is legal in Canada.Cancer patient Debbie Carter of Little Rock, who has a brain tumor, testified the drug helped her while she underwent chemotherapy. She said using marijuana enabled her to overcome nausea and eat.Mike Feehan, attorney for the Bureau of Legislative Research, said federal law bans the use of marijuana, a law that has been upheld in federal court. Feehan noted that the high court has reviewed the California law but did not invalidate it.Past attempts at passing a medical marijuana bill have failed in Arkansas.Copyright 2005 The Associated Press
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