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  Panelists To Discuss Medicinal Marijuana Policies 

Posted by CN Staff on May 31, 2005 at 06:13:31 PT
By Brian Chen, Aggie Senior Staff Writer 
Source: California Aggie 

California -- With the Supreme Court’s impending decision on the legalization of medicinal marijuana, students may find it worthwhile to attend a forum featuring three expert panelists who will be speaking about the drug this afternoon at the ASUCD Coffee House. The forum, hosted by the Davis College Green Party, will feature Dale Gieringer from the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, Nikos Leverenz from the Drug Policy Alliance and Nathan Sands from The Compassionate Coalition.
Each speaker will focus on a specific issue regarding marijuana and the “war on drugs” — the federal government’s policy of prohibiting certain drugs from being sold. In addition, each speaker will hold question-and-answer sessions after speaking for 20 minutes. Davis College Green Party President Jonathon Leathers, a junior who helped coordinate the event, said the forum is being held to educate students on issues surrounding the war on drugs — offering insights and solutions for how drug policies can be changed. “We’re basically taking the stand that people have the right to choose what they want to do with their own body,” he said. Sands, a medicinal marijuana user suffering from chronic nausea, has been active with medicinal marijuana politics for a few years. He will be speaking on the topic of medicinal marijuana, advocating for the rights of dying cancer and AIDS patients to use the drug. Gierenger, co-author of the book Marijuana Medical Handbook: A Guide to Therapy, will be speaking extensively on the “war on drugs” and touch on the possibility of marijuana reform. Leverenz, a drug analyst and author of published essays concerning drug policy, will discuss controversial topics such as drug testing. In addition to the panelists, the Davis College Green Party will also provide information on the subject of marijuana. Leathers cited an example of how alcohol is not prohibited but marijuana is. “People always point out the fact that people never die from smoking marijuana and always die from drinking alcohol,” he said. “For some reason one of those is legal and the other isn’t.” He added that the speakers would offer their expertise on the three-strikes law, where a person can potentially be put in prison for life for possessing or selling marijuana. “It’s a pressing issue that we have to face, because we have so many people who are non-violent offenders in jail,” he said. “We see it as an injustice in society that something so insignificant can be construed in such a wrong way.”Note: Forum to look at war on drugs, opposition to medicinal use.Complete Title: Panelists To Discuss Medicinal Marijuana Policies Today at Coffee HouseSource: California Aggie, The (UC Davis, CA Edu)Author: Brian Chen, Aggie Senior Staff WriterPublished: May 31, 2005Copyright: 2005 The California AggieContact: editor californiaaggie.comWebsite: http://www.californiaaggie.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:California NORMLhttp://www.canorml.org/Drug Policy Alliancehttp://www.drugpolicy.org/Compassionate Coalitionhttp://www.compassionatecoalition.org/State Awaits Decision on Medicinal Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20701.shtmlMarijuana Decision Expected Any Dayhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20310.shtmlI Really Consider Cannabis My Miraclehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20078.shtml

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Comment #71 posted by BGreen on June 02, 2005 at 07:32:05 PT
We should listen to Jews who survived hitler
Papiere BitteThose were the magic words of the time: “Papiere Bitte. (Translation: “Papers, Please.”)By: Doris ColmesI smell the long-forgotten skunk, the long-forgotten rot of fascism. What is happening all around can no longer be denied. . What I ran away from so desperately in 1938 is coming back full circle. Only the jack-boots have not yet arrived.
Papiere Bitte
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Comment #70 posted by dongenero on June 02, 2005 at 06:54:45 PT
Bush Administration
Yes, I believe these are some truly devious bastards.
Now, every Bush policy that comes up, I start thinking, "who really profits here". I do not believe the altruistic facade for a second. And that is only one issue our country is facing. Good God, what have we done in electing this administration.Where is our next "Deep Throat"? Oooops I forgot, no more anonymous sources allowed. So, why are we allowing them to dictate the rules of their protection? Our national media needs to get some balls. 
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Comment #69 posted by Hope on June 01, 2005 at 17:20:50 PT
Right now...with Social Security
Your employer must also pay into Social Security exactly a matching amount to what is witheld from your salary. They hold out four dollars from your salary, and they pay in eight dollars to the Social Security fund.Oh my gosh.
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Comment #68 posted by Hope on June 01, 2005 at 16:57:23 PT
Dongenero!
You said, "Well,follow the money and it becomes obvious who will be helped and who will pay the price. Soc. Security reform will eliminate funding costs for corporate interests while employees make the same but have to try to fund their own accounts after they are paid."My gosh! I can't believe I hadn't caught that before! That's what it's about! Employers would no longer have to pay their part of Social Security. Imagine the billions large companies and corporations would save. Oh my gosh!Once again...I feel like I've been set loose from a trance.It's so obvious and it's been sitting there like a giant spider, invisible, yet in plain sight.Also, people will be forced to invest...invest in big companies! It's a scam of evil proportions. My gosh. I feel so dumb that I didn't see that before and I haven't heard one word of that from anywhere.And the ones who don't know how to invest...well...apparently, to the Bush bunch... well that's just too bad.I just can't believe I haven't heard that anywhere but from you and it's so true. It IS the crux of the matter, I believe.I'm incensed!
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Comment #67 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on June 01, 2005 at 10:53:03 PT
dongenero
dongenero, you say it just right. Making social security private will make the risky stock market go up which nearly all rich people take part in, including the bush crowd. The stockmarket is no place to be when jobs are flying out of this country faster than hell. Even the safe bond market is no place to be; just look at GM and Ford's recent credit downgrade to JUNK. Many bond holders have lost money because of that downgrade, and it could get worse.
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Comment #66 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 10:31:51 PT
dongenero
You said: Ironically, greed is what drives right wing, fundamental, born again, religious power. It is what drives the Bush's to line their pockets, their corporate interest's pockets and the pockets of their wealthy supporters. All on the backs of the poor and middle class and in the name of God.I agree with you wholeheartedly! 
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Comment #65 posted by dongenero on June 01, 2005 at 10:27:34 PT
money Hope
I think it's money Hope. It's greed.....one thing that is often talked about in the Bible as sin, yet you rarely hear anyone talk about today.Why? Because they are greedy!I'm not a Bible thumper and have become even less so in our current climate but, Jesus said little or nothing about gay unions, the sin of marijuana but, he had plenty to say about the sin of greed.Ironically, greed is what drives right wing, fundamental, born again, religious power.
 
It is what drives the Bush's to line their pockets, their corporate interest's pockets and the pockets of their wealthy supporters. All on the backs of the poor and middle class and in the name of God.Why do you think there is the big push for Social Security reform rather than improving health care for those in need?Well,follow the money and it becomes obvious who will be helped and who will pay the price.
Soc. Security reform will eliminate funding costs for corporate interests while employees make the same but have to try to fund their own accounts after they are paid.
Health Care reform on the other hand would come as increased taxes on corporations and the wealthy in order to help everyone. Love thy neighbor....unless he needs help then, screw 'em. Better yet take what little he does have while you're at it.
Lest you think this is just sour grapes, I may not be in the top few percent of earnings but, I am better off than many. I just happen to still have have a conscience rather than a blind idea that everything I do is okay because I am "born again". Hypocrites, many of them.My off topic rant of the day. Sorry to indulge, FoM.
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Comment #64 posted by Hope on June 01, 2005 at 07:02:22 PT
And the one essential thing they have
that I never thought those who would be evil leaders in this country could have, because of American's love of freedom and each other, yet they do, are hordes of obedient and violent enforcers to see that the will of the tyrants is able to overcome the will of the population.
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Comment #63 posted by Hope on June 01, 2005 at 06:57:48 PT
Why? Leadership to where?
It's become fairly obvious that our country, our civilization, our middle class, our poor, our economy, our Constitution and rights are purposely being destroyed by elements of our so called leadership, or maybe they are just puppets for something even more sinister. Unless the ones behind it are so stupid they don't realize what the end results of their actions are leading to.I don't think they are that stupid, though. The obvious ends of their tactics are not what they purport them to be when they enact them. Yet, they are obviously systematically destroying the country and it's populace and ability to flourish. Why?To what end?Is it all just to subjugate a vibrant population to cruel tyranny and destruction?
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Comment #62 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 05:46:48 PT
works
yeah, it works well for their paychecks and pensions
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Comment #61 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 23:31:18 PT
Jose
There is nothing like legal theft. It is happening all around us and the seizure laws are expanding in this country. I was going through the newly introduced legislation bills at my state government's web site and noticed some new seizure bills. Any damn way they can get money from citizens is all on the table now because they sure as hell can't create revenue through income taxes when jobs are leaving this state faster than anyone can keep track of while the state legislature sits there and does nothing. They should be layed off like everyone else when all they can do is waste tax payers money and do nothing to create jobs.The following three examples are what the government must mean when they talk about a Drug Free America:1. Make healthcare too expensive for anyone to go to a doctor to GET drugs.2. Let pharmaceutical drugs get so expensive that fewer and fewer Americans can affort them.3. Watch the numbers of uninsured citizens increase through the years in so more of them can't afford drugs.But out of compassion for its citizens the American government offers free healthcare at all of its prisions in the United State.Yes the system works wellUninsured
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Comment #60 posted by jose melendez on May 31, 2005 at 21:42:01 PT
runderwo
That makes sense. 
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Comment #59 posted by jose melendez on May 31, 2005 at 21:38:25 PT
painwithnoinsurance
The DEA did almost exactly that, in Missoula, Montana last week:Unrepresented, Taxed:http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n874/a06.html?397Blue Moon owner Sue Kerkes wouldn't comment beyond affirming the DEA's visit, but Vault owner David Sil and Grateful Shed manager Bob Holstine did confirm that agents confiscated thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. They said agents served the businesses with warrants but issued no charges; they simply loaded up the goods and moved on. Holstine says six plain-clothes agents in unmarked vehicles seized more than $7,000 in wares, including more than 500 pipes. But DEA agents also took his stock of rolling papers, T-shirts with marijuana emblems, a security camera and business records. Sil's attorney, Martin Judnich, says they seized nearly all of the Vault's inventory. Both Sil's and Holstine's lawyers say they were pursuing answers from the U.S. Attorney's office. Beth Binstock, a spokeswoman in the U.S. Attorney's office, didn't know anything about the searches and seizures. DEA spokeswoman Karen Flowers says she knows of the ongoing investigation but that all inquiries must be directed to the U.S. Attorney's office. Both Judnich and Chuck Watson, Grateful Shed's attorney, say their clients are baffled and have long been operating--the Vault for about a decade and the Grateful Shed for more than 15 years--with the understanding that they are legal and aboveboard, and they want to know whether something has suddenly changed. They are uncertain where they stand because other stores selling similar wares were apparently not targeted and no charges have been filed in the stores that were targeted. The Vault is closed ( "There's nothing to sell!" Sil says ) and Holstine says he's reordered some stock. "They told me to go ahead and restock my shelves but they might be back," he says. "These guys were more professional thieves than some guy who comes in with a crowbar in the night."zig zag:07/01/97 Natwest Leads $300M Financing for Tobacco Firm Despite Publicity American BankerAmid one of the tobacco industry's worst public lashings, Natwest Markets last week assembled a $300 million high-yield bond and bank loan package for National Tobacco Corp., the producer of Beech Nut loose-leaf chewing tobacco. The financing, which supports National Tobacco's acquisition of North Atlantic Trading Co., the maker of Zig Zag cigarette rolling papers, was the second high-yield bond issue led by Natwest, the U.S. investment banking arm of Britain's National Westminster PLCflip flop:http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/tlo.html
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Comment #58 posted by runderwo on May 31, 2005 at 21:37:13 PT
correction
"'pot never killed, alcohol always kills'"The problem with this statement is that it can be parsed several different ways, and the most natural to me is as a claim that death is inevitable from consuming alcohol. Obviously, that is false, because individuals consume alcohol every day and very few of them abuse it to the point that they die. Perhaps "constantly" or "continuously" is a better word than "always"."Pot never killed" could be problematic but only if you split hairs. It is possible to die from an allergic reaction to smoking, and a few reports of such have remained in my mind. A more accurate statement would be that THC, or cannabinoids, or pot's active ingredients have never killed anyone. Certainly, the number of people who have ever died from usage of cannabis is several orders of magnitude less than those who have died from alcohol consumption. But we are trying to corner these people so they are forced to confront their lies, and to do that we have to cut off the easy escape routes by stating exactly what is true, no more no less.I'm only picking on this because I can see some dumbass prohib quoting this followed by "What are these guys smoking??" or some other snide (yet irrelevant) comment as a refutation. It frustrates me when a fundamentally factual and sound argument is poorly put forth in rhetoric, not only undermining the goal of the debate, but inviting more myths about how crazy and psychotic we all are...
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 20:54:12 PT

Trip Down Memory Lane
When we went thru this town we always giggled when we were young and the parents would frown and then smile too.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercourse%2C_Pennsylvania
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 20:41:33 PT

PainWithNoInsurance
I personally feel that the younger amish would grow and smoke behind the barn or when going to town in the buggy. We have a friend from that area that said the Amish are well aware but it might not be spoken about often.Town named after Hemp Fields:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hempfield%2C_Pennsylvania
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Comment #55 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 20:36:52 PT

Amish 
How do the Amish feel about weed?
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 20:30:38 PT

Oops
That picture is from the Amish area I live in now not Lancaster.
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Comment #53 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 20:27:47 PT

Picture of  Amish from Lancaster Area
 I wonder if they are involved at all. It wouldn't surprise me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DSCN4624_holmescountyamishbuggy_e.jpg
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Comment #52 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 20:09:48 PT

I See It Now: Michigan DEA Bust Lollipop Store 
How Stupid can it get?Police Search home of suspected lollipop eatersLollipop Bust lands several In Jail
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Comment #51 posted by ekim on May 31, 2005 at 19:55:50 PT

i wonder where the 2005 convention will be
For informative answers to this question, see:
http://www.thehia.org/membersites.cfmhttp://www.thehia.org/faq.htmHemp Seed, The Royal Grain, 
by Chris Bennett
Traditional Uses of Culinary Hemp Seed
by Dr. Alexander Sumach
Centuries of Safe Consumption of Hemp Foods
by Cynthia Thielen
Essential Fatty Acids Can Affect Your Baby's Intelligence!
by Hempola, Inc.
Nutritional Analysis of Hempseed and Hempseed Oil
by The Ohio Hempery
Nutritional Analysis of HempNut Hulled Hempseed
by Richard Rose
HIA CONVENTION REPORTS 
HIA 11th Annual Convention Report
November 3 - 5, 2004
San Francisco, CA HIA 10th Annual Convention Report
August 20 - 23, 2003
Pine Ridge, SDHIA 9th Annual Convention Report 
September 30 - October 2, 2002 
Washington, DC HIA 8th Annual Convention Report 
October 2001
Maui, HIHIA 7th Annual Convention Report 
September 2000 
Ontario, Canada HIA 6th Annual Convention Report 
September 1999 
Ontario, Canada
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #50 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 19:51:45 PT

Cannabis Candy
I think instead of outlawing the candy they should require the manufacturer to stop making references to marijuana. Some pops advertise: "Every Lick Is Like Taking A Hit". I think it's more like every lick is like sniffing a bag of weed.  Abee-normal on ebay has a pretty good price on a package of five.
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 19:37:46 PT

Just a Comment
They mentioned Lancaster on the link and that was in the area I grew up. Lancaster is the heart of the Pennsylvania Dutch Amish Country buggies and all! 
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 19:30:35 PT

PainWithNoInsurance
Seriously about the lollipops it was a very smart business move for those who came up with the idea and were also able to bring it to market. I can visualize the day when stores could have all kinds of neat novelty items made from hemp. 
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Comment #47 posted by jose melendez on May 31, 2005 at 18:59:57 PT

the rub, as it were
". . . made from hemp not marijuana . . . "Ah, but there's where prohibitionists lose by lying once again.They insist cannabis is marijuana, indeed it is on this claim that they bank their entire unlawful restraint of the hemp farming trade.
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 18:49:47 PT

PainWithNoInsurance
How would a lollipop called Super Skunk taste?Would we start singing dead skunk in the middle of the road if we tried one! LOL!
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Comment #45 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 18:42:02 PT

Cannabis Candy
It's a shame the candy makers have to mention marijuana on the labels because the product is made from hemp not marijuana. If they weren't so expensive I would order a whole bag or two because I think they're very good. They do come in sugar free.Here's one web site that sells them---http://www.thehempjoint.com/Hempfield%20Candy%20Company.htm
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 18:26:30 PT

Jose
See I knew you were a sweetheart! Thank you.
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Comment #43 posted by jose melendez on May 31, 2005 at 18:20:31 PT

#42
That would break my heart, ma'am. I'll be much more careful.
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 18:06:29 PT

Jose
Let me say you might be the death of me but of course it's ok. I don't have any problems at all with you. You are a spitfire and I was a spitfire so I can relate. 
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Comment #41 posted by jose melendez on May 31, 2005 at 17:57:32 PT

with care
On the 'pot never killed, alcohol always kills' argument, I think the idea may actually pass the truth test. Other than monkeys in gas masks dying from carbon monoxide and lack of oxygen, I do think it's true that no one has ever smoked cannabis to fatal dose levels, and people indeed die from alcohol poisoning essentially every single day.That said, I understand the importance of word choice, and I do express my sincerest apologies, on the record to everyone and especially to Doc Russo for the bad kharma I stirred up last weekend. With the exception of typos, I stand by my words, but . . . food fights draw flies, and I should know better than to react.Any C-NEWS'er wanting to chew me out now, I deserve it, call me at 386 848-1877or email airjos at yahoo dot comWage peace,Jose
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 17:54:34 PT

Sukoi
I'm also sorry to read about your random test. I know many of us could write a book on drug testing and all the anguish it causes. Losing a job over drug testing really is hard and it happens all the time. My husband also has been drug tested since the mid 90s. 
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Comment #39 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 17:43:40 PT

Sorry, Sukoi
It is an indignity. My husband and two of my grown children are also subjected to them. I've heard from other people that "randoming" happens suspiciously often on the first day after vacations.About those lollipops. Do they come in sugar-free or low-carb?It's a shame Spade and Richardson can't get "pro-active" about murder, rape, molestation, assault, and theft instead of lollipops.
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Comment #38 posted by global_warming on May 31, 2005 at 17:43:23 PT

The Devil and The Details
This demonic world, is pregnant, with expectations, awaiting that savior, long has he been born and this universe has shuddered, and fallen to it's knees,The Son of Man, has been born, Find the hand of Grace whithen your next grasp, within your most close world, your brother or sister, ..
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Comment #37 posted by runderwo on May 31, 2005 at 17:18:18 PT

careful
" *We*re basically taking the stand that people have the right to choose what they want to do with their own body,* he said."... IF they do not harm, endanger, or incur costs on others as a result."*People always point out the fact that people never die from smoking marijuana and always die from drinking alcohol,*"There is something obviously wrong with this statement too. We have to be careful not to make incomplete statements because it makes for easy pickings by the prohibs. An example I see all the time is "marijuana is harmless" or "marijuana is safe".Plenty of people would disagree that marijuana is harmless, but few would disagree that marijuana is *relatively* harmless compared to currently legal drugs, or all other illegal drugs.Plenty of people would disagree that in general marijuana is 
safe, and I'm not sure we want to encourage people to be careless when using it, because that reflects badly on all of us. Rather, a better statement would be that when marijuana is safe when it is responsibly used.The devil is in the details... don't get caught stating something you didn't mean.
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Comment #36 posted by global_warming on May 31, 2005 at 16:10:07 PT

re:article below,
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/5/31/120014.shtmlI still am looking for the transcripts to todays forum..While listening to the sounds of early Scotland, the music, tender and loving, sings of the sufferings, not only of Scotland, but the whole of Europe.The sounds of the Holy Land, are forever lost in the fogs of time, and any understanding, may be found in the writings and muses, of men and women, long passed by the way, and our bond, our obligation, agreed upon the rule of law, cannot ever be forgotten.gw
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Comment #35 posted by BGreen on May 31, 2005 at 15:26:21 PT

Sukoi
That really sucks, man. I feel a little dirty after reading about it so I'm sure you must feel like crap.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #34 posted by Sukoi on May 31, 2005 at 15:14:02 PT

Hmmm...
“Leverenz, a drug analyst and author of published essays concerning drug policy, will discuss controversial topics such as drug testing.”I am one of those that suffer under this oppression and I was “randomly” selected to give a sample this morning. “Randomly” must mean being selected on the first day back after a two-week vacation, because that’s what happened. Those pee tasters sure must be thirsty; will they ever have their fill of excrement at the expense of taxpayers? On another note, here’s an interesting song (some light profanity):The Green Green Grass at Homehttp://www.petenewman.com/cgi-bin/dl/download.pl?file=4And here’s more of what we all already know:U.S. 'War on Drugs' Really War on Marijuanahttp://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/5/31/120014.shtml

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Comment #33 posted by CorvallisEric on May 31, 2005 at 15:10:48 PT

Lollipops and fads (comment 13)
"It's a big seller," Spade [state representative] said. "It's become a fad, and it's something we need to stop in Michigan."Eddie Hoffer, shift manager at Spencer's Gifts in Monroe, said the candy sells well.Hoffer added though, he is not too concerned about the proposed legislation, which would ban stores like his from selling the candy.Actually, Hoffer should be greatful for Spade's help. With any luck, if Spade is a good grandstanding artist, the publicity should bring in lots of new customers. If it passes and a lawsuit ensues: even more publicity and more customers. Last time I was in a Spencer's (maybe 15 years ago) they had a lot of really gross kitsch only a 14-year old could appreciate - a business for which real content means little and fad marketing is everything.
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Comment #32 posted by global_warming on May 31, 2005 at 14:45:57 PT

Transcript?
"California -- With the Supreme Court’s impending decision on the legalization of medicinal marijuana, students may find it worthwhile to attend a forum featuring three expert panelists who will be speaking about the drug this afternoon at the ASUCD Coffee House."Has anyone seen a transcript of this discussion?
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 12:23:48 PT

I Just Found This
Live 8 has a web site and I just found it. Here it is. We need good things to happen!http://www.live8live.com/
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 12:16:02 PT

Somethings Give Me Hope
I don't believe hating is right so I don't hate our political leaders. That aside my heart is heavy for the lack of concern for people and true liberty that our government doesn't show. This administration must only think of money and how to get more so they can spend more. That's why right wing republicans leave me cold.When I heard of the Live 8 concert my spirit was lifted. Maybe because the best musicians use their talent to help is one reason why the right really minds particularly rock music. The money from the concert will be directed to this url and it made me have a little hope that good people are still out there trying to right the wrong this current administration has made so much worse. Here's the link to the web site.http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/others2005/live8/

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Comment #29 posted by schmeff on May 31, 2005 at 11:04:28 PT

Mixed Up
I too support Deadly Spud's support for candy-flavored drugs.
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Comment #28 posted by cloud7 on May 31, 2005 at 10:51:48 PT

"drug-flavored candy"
First, I just wanted to try a lollipop that tasted like marijuana because I thought it was cool. Before I knew it, I was eating lollipops that tasted like heroin and cocaine two or three times a day. I support Rep. Dudley Spade's proposal because I've been down this hard road and if it keeps even one kid from eating candy it will be worth it.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 10:45:36 PT

schmeff 
Amen!
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Comment #26 posted by schmeff on May 31, 2005 at 10:44:52 PT

Chief Justice: Get Well Soon
In the meantime, do the right thing.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 10:44:38 PT

herbdoc215
On my FTE pages since the stats are easier for me to figure out it has had many colleges and yes the powers that be too. 
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Comment #24 posted by herbdoc215 on May 31, 2005 at 10:40:56 PT

schmeff, You would be shocked at who reads C-news
I have had several articles from here (including comments) introduced by the Crown in my Immigra hearings here...many ended up helping me more than pigs had thought even? But I say DEA/State Dept. dudes bring in several printouts from here to Crown dude that was flown in from ottawa to prosecute me! This place is monitored by many of our opponents and I wouldn't be supprised if a staffer/clerk of several justices haven't purused these pages recently. Peace, steve tuck
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 10:29:20 PT

schmeff 
I really hope they don't. Breaking humanities spirit seems to be ok with our current powers that be and that's just down right wrong.
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Comment #22 posted by schmeff on May 31, 2005 at 10:25:56 PT

I Agree
But Bush uses the wartime trump card when he tries to quash democracy. I figure the Supremes have got a copy of his playbook. He's their Golden Boy.
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 10:22:11 PT

schmeff 
I hope they don't use the war excuse. Many people are against this war Bush started and that would make them using war as an excuse all that much harder to handle for me.
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Comment #20 posted by GreenJoy on May 31, 2005 at 10:19:20 PT

Wondering
 When has anyone who was against us listened to someone that has spoken well for us... and then changed their mind. Not just a lip service, "you've made some good points, I'll have to reexamine my stance", but a real breakthrough. Can we reason with a sick society? Does it not nearly always take the imprisonment of someone near and dear to them or somesuch calamity to open there eyes? GJ 
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Comment #19 posted by schmeff on May 31, 2005 at 10:18:31 PT

Raich Prediction
The current Supreme Court has a reputation for upholding state's rights (when the states are doing something the Court agrees with) but finding creative ways around their 'principles' when they (the Court) disagree. Think of the 2000 election, when the Court overuled the State of Florida to appoint Bush, and then basically said in their decision, "just this one time."The Ninth Circuit has used legal precedents from THIS Supreme Court to rule in Raich's favor.To overturn this decision, I expect the hypocrital "justices" will try another "these-are-special-circumstances" cop-out. And the mechanism, I predict, will be the phoney "wartime" excuse.I expect them to say something along these lines:While the Constitution makes it clear that the states are intended to be 'individual laboratories of democracy', we can not 'experiment' during time of war. During a time of war, we must all march to one drummer....Johnny Pee.I hate to be giving them ideas (the Justices LOVE to read CNews), but remember...you read it here first.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 10:13:39 PT

How About Some Of These Lollipops
PINA COLADASTRAWBANANA DAIQUIRIBUTTER RUMhttp://www.profitquests.com/ProductsCandyPopsMj.html
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Comment #17 posted by kaptinemo on May 31, 2005 at 10:04:39 PT:

(Uncontrollable laughter)
Oh, man. Just how dumb can these rubes get? Huh? Just how dumb?They don't want the kiddies gravitating to something worse? Like what? The sugar content of most candies, cereals, sodas, etc. is humongous. It's a wonder that some kids don't succumb to instant diabetes. How about Ritalin? How about SSRI's? Oh, but those are goooooood drugs. They're 'medicines'. But they have to raise holy Hell about cannabis-flavored candy?The Marching Morons are ever on the move...
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 10:00:47 PT

They could have made it clear....
and I don't see it anywhere...that this is a fictional "What if?" story.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 09:59:35 PT

Their bad, too...
I always loved the rodeo and rodeo entertainment artists, but this is macabre. It's ugly and wrong.It still looks to me like they discovered someone with the name, at least or that they are saying that he's really alive. It's obviously a movie and a show, but it's still leaving it out there that he's alive, as far as I can see.Aaargh. This makes me mad. It looks like it's fraud.
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 09:49:32 PT

My bad...
I did notice something about "casting"...but I'm grandparenting heavy for the summer. Haven't had time to really look at it in depth.
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Comment #13 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 09:29:30 PT

Off Topic: Interesting Aticle
If you've never tried any of these hemp candies (especially the hard candies like suckers), they are made from the hemp flower top and have a flavor that taste just like a bag of weed smells.Spade targets drug-flavored candySaturday, May 28, 2005 11:07 PM EDT 
 
-- Spade said he plans to introduce legislation that would ban the sale of such candy.By Chris GautzDaily Telegram Staff WriterADRIAN -- Rep. Dudley Spade, D-Tipton, said he has a message for the producers of candy made with hemp and designed to taste like marijuana."We don't want drug-flavored candy in Michigan, and we're going to shut you down," Spade said.Friday morning, Spade, flanked by Lenawee County Sheriff Larry Richardson, announced he soon plans to introduce legislation banning the sale of candy containing hemp or hemp flavoring. 
"It's flying off the shelves," Spade said. "It's aimed at our kids and it must be stopped."The Pot Sucker label contains a warning, which says the product is "highly addictive" and "tastes like the real 'deal.' " Pot Suckers retail for $2.Marijuana-flavored candy comes in several forms, Spade said. There is also chronic candy, which is sold by the ounce or in nickel bags. Other companies sell chocolate-covered pretzels and peanut butter cups with marijuana flavoring.At Friday's press conference, Spade handed out several "Pot Suckers" to the media, which he said he purchased recently at Spencer's Gifts in Monroe. 
 
The candy is legal, because while it is made to taste like marijuana, it does not contain THC, the active drug in marijuana.Spade said he called all 19 Spencer stores in Michigan and all said they sell the candy."It's a big seller," Spade said. "It's become a fad, and it's something we need to stop in Michigan."Eddie Hoffer, shift manager at Spencer's Gifts in Monroe, said the candy sells well.Hoffer added though, he is not too concerned about the proposed legislation, which would ban stores like his from selling the candy."I think anyone who pays $2 for a sucker is stupid anyway," he said.Spade said he first became of aware of this type of candy several days ago and began doing research on the Internet.Richardson said he applauded Spade for his proactive stance on this."He didn't wait until we got a problem in Lenawee County or the state of Michigan to act on it," Richardson said.Richardson said he was not aware the candy was out there."I admire his initiative," he said.Both men said they are worried that children will become accustomed to the taste of marijuana and will be more apt to try the real drug when they are older."That's a big concern of ours," Richardson said. "That kids will gravitate to something more harmful to their bodies."

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Comment #12 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 09:21:57 PT

He's Still Dead! LOL!
I read a little more and it is something about a western or something.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 09:17:29 PT

Hope
Now I am totally weirded out! I hope that's an expression. He's dead! No He's alive! Soon they will be coming to take me away ha ha ho ho! 
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 09:14:20 PT

Prev. post
Nah. It can't be. This would have big news if it were true.
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 09:12:10 PT

Off topic, too, but I wonder...
Surely there are people out there who knew him well enough to know. This has to be a scam...or not?Is this guy Jim Morrison?http://www.rodeoswest.com/
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 09:00:27 PT

Off Topic: Live 8 Concert Announced
Leave it to the arts to do something good!Some of the scheduled performers:In London's Hyde Park, those performing include REM, Coldplay, Dido, Keane, Sir Elton John, Annie Lennox, Madonna, Muse, the Scissor Sisters, Sir Paul McCartney, Joss Stone, Stereophonics, Sting, Snoop, Robbie Williams, U2 and Mariah Carey. In Philadelphia, acts performing will include Will Smith, the Dave Matthews Band, Bon Jovi, Stevie Wonder, Puff Daddy and Jay-Z. Among artists scheduled for Berlin are A-Ha, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Lauryn Hill and Brian Wilson. The concert in Rome will feature musicians including Faith Hill and Duran Duran. In Paris, Jamiroquai, Craig David, Youssou N'Dour and Yannick Noah will be among those taking part. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4554865.stm
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 08:51:18 PT

afterburner
Cannabis is safer! Exactly!
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Comment #6 posted by afterburner on May 31, 2005 at 08:49:28 PT

'Word' to the Court
Cannabis...SAFER
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 08:42:31 PT

Off Topic: Deep Throat Speaks
His name is W Mark Felt.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 08:29:57 PT

Wisdom
That would be so wonderful if we really would see wise decisions with our judges. Judges should seek wisdom and never look left or right. We need fairness to be an important part of our country. Actions not words influence people.Freedom should mean we are free to live our lives the way we want as long as we cause no harm to another person by our actions. That's freedom to me.
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Comment #3 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 08:25:49 PT

Tyrants and respect
The "respect" given a tyrant, is not respect at all. It's something else entirely. I've seen misled parents say, "I just want them to "respect" me."Bull. They don't know what the word means. What they really want is for them to "fear" them.Some law enforcement officers don't know what "respect" means either. They think it means fear and blind obedience.Wrong. True respect involves admiration and trust.
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Comment #2 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 08:18:23 PT

If there was wisdom in the court and respect
for our Constitution, the Supremes would squash the war on drugs.But alas, although, I hope always for the best, I won't be profoundly shocked to find they disrespect the people and the people will be forced to live in disrespect of them. Would that angels of mercy and wisdom spoke to them clearly and they could hear and not be afraid to act on the knowledge of angels and God.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 07:45:31 PT

Just a Comment
No decision on the Raich case today. We only have June left so it has to be soon.
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