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  Marijuana Bill Sends Wrong Drug Message

Posted by CN Staff on April 04, 2005 at 12:27:09 PT
By Michael Spasaro and Jim Feldkamp 
Source: Register-Guard 

We concur with state Sen. Floyd Prozanski's March 8 guest viewpoint concerning the methamphetamine problem that is plaguing our state and our country. This scourge continues to ravage our children and our community. There is no debate that there is an epidemic facing us, but it is not methamphetamine - it is drug abuse. It's meth today, crack yesterday, Quaaludes before that, PCP before that, and so it goes.
When we address the issue of nicotine (a drug) abuse, do we go after Camel cigarettes and forget about Winstons? Drug abuse has been around for thousands of years, but we have made significant progress in fighting drug use and trafficking in America. On the demand side, the U.S. has reduced casual use, chronic use and addiction, and has prevented others from even using drugs. In 1974, 25.4 million Americans used illegal drugs; in 2001 that number dropped to 15.9 million. That means that 5 percent of the American population use illegal drugs and 95 percent of us do not. We can curtail drug abuse, reducing it to level that prevailed before 1960. The solution lies with education and changing the American people's attitude toward the use of illegal drugs. Can it be done? We have done it! Look at our fight against an addictive drug that kills - nicotine, usually in the form of cigarettes. It took us 40 years, but we are winning that war. This was accomplished with education and changing the attitude of the American people. However, when Prozanski, D-Eugene, and state Rep. Phil Barnhart, D-Eugene, sponsor legislation that supports medical marijuana, how can we tell our children that drugs are bad for you? When we put the word "medical" in front of a drug, does it not affect the attitude of our youth? It is not a coincidence that in our state, marijuana use among 18- to 24-year-olds is 65 percent higher than the national average. Does that mean that everyone who uses marijuana will go on to harder drugs? Of course not. However, during our time in law enforcement we never met a meth addict who did not first use marijuana. Look at how this attitude has continued to allow people convicted of meth offenses to continually walk the streets. As of 2004, we know that more than 200 individuals were walking the streets of Linn and Lane counties after having been convicted four to 10 times for meth manufacture and other major drug felonies. Why? Additionally, bills that are introduced for the protection of our citizenry fail to address the fact that crime goes up when the economy goes down. The correlation between the demise of our economy and the increase in drugs and drug-related offenses is no coincidence. We need tools to fight drug abuse: 1) a strong economy; 2) education and changed attitudes toward the use of illegal drugs; 3) strong community involvement; 4) accountability by everyone, ranging from law enforcement, prosecutors and judges to our legislators and our governor, and 6) treatment. We need to understand that the problem and the real issue is drug abuse, and the causes that perpetuate this illegal activity. Only by addressing the root cause of drug abuse can we begin to get a handle on this new epidemic. Michael Spasaro of Lebanon was an undercover agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration and ran last year as the Republican candidate in state House District 11. Jim Feldkamp of Eugene was an FBI special agent, and ran for Congress last year as the GOP candidate in the 4th District. Source: Register-Guard, The (OR) Author: Michael Spasaro and Jim FeldkampPublished: April 4, 2005Copyright: 2005 The Register-GuardContact: rgletters guardnet.comWebsite: http://www.registerguard.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Medicinal Cannabis Research Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/research.htm It Isn't Reefer Madnesshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20178.shtmlMedical Marijuana Cards Abound http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20153.shtmlMedicine or Menace?http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19944.shtml

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Comment #38 posted by Kozmo on April 05, 2005 at 09:40:52 PT
And we didn't arrest a single person
"Can it be done? We have done it! Look at our fight against an addictive drug that kills - nicotine, usually in the form of cigarettes. It took us 40 years, but we are winning that war. This was accomplished with education and changing the attitude of the American people."And we didn't arrest nor incarcerate 1 single person in doing so did we.
The blind hypocrisy and ignorance of prohibitionists is simply stunning.
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Comment #37 posted by potpal on April 05, 2005 at 09:40:02 PT
Interesting article - slightly ot 
Prescription art...http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4318297.stm
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on April 05, 2005 at 09:38:11 PT
Nugent
He said on tv one time something like this.Fast food is a mallard!That's sick to me.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on April 05, 2005 at 09:36:24 PT
Jose
What I said about Nugent isn't because of the article. That just what I think about him. He's a gun toting lunatic! LOL!
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Comment #34 posted by afterburner on April 05, 2005 at 09:35:03 PT
Journey to the Center of the Mind
If that's what's in the center of Ted Nugent's mind, I don't want to go there. Someone else in The Amboy Dukes must have written the song.
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Comment #33 posted by jose melendez on April 05, 2005 at 09:27:01 PT
April Fool's deja vu
Folks, I think it's a spoof 'zine:http://www.pugbus.net/
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on April 05, 2005 at 09:23:16 PT
Ted
He looks like a gun toting lunatic to me. The problem with him is people think he represents peaceful, long hair, hippie rock star types.
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Comment #31 posted by Truth on April 05, 2005 at 09:18:56 PT
Ted
Ted's bigotry is showing. Shame, shame.
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on April 05, 2005 at 09:10:56 PT
Had Enough
Don't say "our" boy! He can be yours...but yuck...I don't like him at all.
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Comment #29 posted by mayan on April 05, 2005 at 07:03:19 PT
unrelated
Medical Pot Moratorium on Agenda:
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/10253637p-11064742c.htmlExtending Pot Moratorium Buys City Time:
http://www.modbee.com/opinion/story/10253623p-11064739c.htmlRecruits wanted - to grow cannabis (UK) 
http://tinyurl.com/5fl24
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Comment #28 posted by Had Enough on April 05, 2005 at 06:40:24 PT
Our Boy Ted
Off Topic. This is interesting times we live in.http://www.pugbus.net/News/04042005_nugent.htm
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Comment #27 posted by potpal on April 05, 2005 at 05:38:30 PT
ot - food supplements
EU health foods crackdown 'wrong'...http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4411929.stm
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on April 05, 2005 at 04:25:22 PT
CorvallisEric, Comment 24
I bet you're right! I, too, had read that story, but I didn't think about that. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't pussy footing around 'drug testing for everyone'. Maybe drug testing for all was supposed to have been number five.
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Comment #25 posted by OverwhelmSam on April 05, 2005 at 03:34:00 PT
Extreme Fanaticism is an Redundantly Oxymoronic.
I love the way they correlate marijuana use to harder drugs and real crimes. It's kind of like saying that breathing ultimately leads to breeding."I never met a meth addict that didn't ride a bike in their youth. Hence, bicycles are the gateway to meth abuse and we have to rid the planet of this two-wheeled scourge!"Overwhelm Uncle Sam
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Comment #24 posted by CorvallisEric on April 04, 2005 at 22:17:07 PT
4) accountability by everyone ...
Perhaps the authors had this in mind but didn't want to offend their friends (nearby area north of Eugene).VALIANT, the Valley Interagency Narcotics Team, will formally disband after an 18-month-long investigation showed that it had mishandled evidence in more than 1,300 cases.A team of auditors found that 345 firearms, $10,423 in cash, and drugs in quantities varying from less than one gram to five pounds were unaccounted for, and many records had been destroyed.Long, boring story: 
http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2005/04/03/news/community/news03.txt
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on April 04, 2005 at 21:26:41 PT
Good Grief... Their Tool Number 4
"accountability by everyone, ranging from law enforcement, prosecutors and judges to our legislators and our governor,"That means drug testing for everyone, doesn't it or does it not?
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Comment #22 posted by ekim on April 04, 2005 at 21:01:30 PT
accountability by everyone, ----no stinken quotas
OB have you been able to catch any of Howard Wooldridges trip across the country against prohibition. He is educating the number four and most threating command. Howard could be giving out the drug war word guide. how much is the book is a discount given for more orders. Phoenix, AZ - March 31 (west side of Phoenix)Phoenix...built in rest and speak till April 6
www.leap.cc/events 
Florence Junction - April 8Springerville, AZ – April 17Socorro, NM – April 25Albaquerque, NM – April 29Albuquerque - built in rest & speak..thru May 4Santa Fe, NM - May 6Taos – May 10Raton, NM – May 15Pueblo, CO – May 20Colorado Springs – May 22Colorado Springs – three day break thru May 25Denver - May 31Metro Denver...built in rest and speak thru June 10Fort Morgan – June 13Ogallala, NE – June 19Kearney – June 26Lincoln – July 2Omaha – July 4Omaha – built in rest and speak thru July 7Des Moines, IA – July 14Cedar Rapids – July 20, 21Madison, WI – July 30Madison - built in rest and speak for a week...leave August 6Milwaukee - August 8Milwaukee – August 9 & 10 rest & speakGary, IN – August 17Benton Harbor/St. Joseph, MI – August 21Kalamazoo, MI - August 23Lansing, MI - August 27Lansing — built in rest leaving Sept 3Dearborn – September 7Toledo - September 10Toledo - rest & speak leave September 14Cleveland – September 18Cleveland – rest and speak leave 21Erie, PA – September 25Rochester, NY – October 3Syracuse — October 7Utica – October 10Albany – October 14Poughkeepsie – October 18New York City – October 23
http://www.leap.cc/howard/
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Comment #21 posted by potpal on April 04, 2005 at 20:32:12 PT

drug pushers running rabid...
MPs issue prescriptions warning... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4410227.stm 
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on April 04, 2005 at 20:15:33 PT

Nice Carving, Observer.
I can't believe they left the number five out of their six "tools". They certainly need some sort of "tools" to fight something, but I think it's not drugs. Perhaps it's mathematical incompetence they need to fight. What kind of example is that to the children?They used the prohibitionist's key emotional impact words "scourge", "plague", "ravage",and used "epidemic" twice. They used the word "abuse" seven times in this short article. That's abusing the word abuse. Sure glad they didn't get elected. Way to go, Oregonians!
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Comment #18 posted by warhater on April 04, 2005 at 18:38:43 PT:

Nice analysis Observer
You dissect this mess neatly. I will rant first on this point:"Phil Barnhart, D-Eugene, sponsor legislation that supports medical marijuana, how can we tell our children that drugs are bad for you? "I had an eye operation and was given fentanyl. This is a synthetic opiate that is several times more powerful than heroin. Did my anesthesiologist send the wrong message to the children? My sister is retarded and has a siezure disorder. She has taken Barbituates to supress the seizures. Is her neurologist corrupting our youth? The argument that they are using here is flawed. They give ritalin to "hyperactive" children all the time. This drug is very similar to methamphedamine. What kind of message does that send?global_warming poses this question:"One could link meth with any substance both legal or illegal, but can such a link be scientifically established?"Perhaps such a link could be established, but not like this. Anticdotal "evidence" means nothing. It's like saying I never met a professional skier who didn't start on the bunny slope. It someone gets the point where they snort or inject a smelly corrosive chemical, I can't imagine them being too pure to have smoked a little herb on the journey. They probably drank and smoked cigarettes too. A link is not the same as causation. In my opinion neither the pot, nor the cigarettes, nor the booze caused these people to do meth.
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Comment #17 posted by observer on April 04, 2005 at 18:10:40 PT

Number 5 ... Number 5 ... Number 5 
We need tools to fight drug abuse: 1) a strong economy; 2) education and changed attitudes toward the use of illegal drugs; 3) strong community involvement; 4) accountability by everyone, ranging from law enforcement, prosecutors and judges to our legislators and our governor, and 6) treatment.1 2 3 4 ... 6 ?Hey ... where's #5? It isn't in the original article here: http://www.registerguard.com/news/2005/04/04/ed.col.feldkamp.0404.htmlMore drug warrior "street value" math, maybe? Perhaps this is how the DEA counts each seedling as 2.2 lbs of pot... Their thumb is always on the scale. 
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Comment #16 posted by observer on April 04, 2005 at 17:46:03 PT

drug war propaganda ... analysis
[3]
This scourge continues to ravage our children and our community.

(Sentence 3) re: "children" - "Chemicals have long been inextricably linked in prohibitionist literature with the ... corruption of young people." [W.White,1979] (Children Corrupted (propaganda theme 5) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme5.htm#5 ) re: "scourge" - Prohibitionists demonize the use of drugs and claim the use of drugs is "epidemic." Images of "war" are used by the prohibition propagandist to help whip up emotions. (Demonize, War (propaganda theme 6) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme6.htm#6 ) 
 
 
[4]
There is no debate that there is an epidemic facing us, but it is not methamphetamine - it is drug abuse.

(Sentence 4) re: "epidemic" - Drug users are evil fiends which, save for the noble drug "war", would multiply as the "epidemic" of drug use engulfs an innocent people. (Demonize, War (propaganda theme 6) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme6.htm#6 ) 
 
 
[7]
Drug abuse has been around for thousands of years, but we have made significant progress in fighting drug use and trafficking in America.

(Sentence 7) re: "Drug abuse", "drug use" - Prohibitionist propagandists repeatedly assert that "use is abuse." Details about "using" as opposed to "abusing" drugs are ignored. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 
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On the demand side, the U.S. has reduced casual use, chronic use and addiction, and has prevented others from even using drugs.

(Sentence 8) re: "addiction" - The rhetoric of prohibition asserts that insanity, crime, and violence are caused by drugs, or are controlled by prohibition. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) 
 
 
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In 1974, 25.4 million Americans used illegal drugs; in 2001 that number dropped to 15.9 million.

(Sentence 9) re: "Americans" - The survival of society is assured, -- says the propaganda of prohibition -- as long as drug users are punished (jailed). (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) 
 
 
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That means that 5 percent of the American population use illegal drugs and 95 percent of us do not.

(Sentence 10) re: "American" - Because of prohibition (prohibitionists assure us), society is protected: the community is safe, and the nation is saved. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) 
 
 
[11]
We can curtail drug abuse, reducing it to level that prevailed before 1960.

(Sentence 11) re: "drug abuse" - The rhetoric of prohibition will assume that "use" and "abuse" are identical. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 
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The solution lies with education and changing the American people's attitude toward the use of illegal drugs.

(Sentence 12) re: "American" - Prohibitionists assert that the survival of the community, society, the nation, the world, etc. are at stake. Only continued and increased punishments for drug users can be contemplated, because, say prohibitionists, society will otherwise fall apart. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) 
 
 
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Look at our fight against an addictive drug that kills - nicotine, usually in the form of cigarettes.

(Sentence 15) re: "addictive" - Drugs, scream prohibitionists, cause all bad things in life: crime, violence, insanity, etc. If not for prohibition (i.e., jailing drug users), then criminality, violence and psychotic behavior would explode upon the land, the prohibitionist assures us. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) 
 
 
[17]
This was accomplished with education and changing the attitude of the American people.

(Sentence 17) re: "American" - The health of the "community" (read: government) is assured, prohibitionists explain, because drug users are punished. Jailing drug users is thus painted as upholding society. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) 
 
 
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Phil Barnhart, D-Eugene, sponsor legislation that supports medical marijuana, how can we tell our children that drugs are bad for you?

(Sentence 19) re: "children" - Being a prohibitionist means you can never shed too many crocodile tears for the "children". (As you lustily jail or kill their parents for using drugs.) (Children Corrupted (propaganda theme 5) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme5.htm#5 ) 
 
 
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It is not a coincidence that in our state, marijuana use among 18- to 24-year-olds is 65 percent higher than the national average.

(Sentence 21) re: "marijuana use" - Prohibitionists try to hammer in the idea that 'all use is abuse.' The rhetoric of prohibition needs to deny that many people can use currently illegal drugs without abusing them. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 
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However, during our time in law enforcement we never met a meth addict who did not first use marijuana.

(Sentence 24) re: "addict" - Drug war propaganda insinuates drugs are evil, because they are linked with hated groups. (Hated Groups (propaganda theme 1) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme1.htm#1 ) 
 
 
[28]
Additionally, bills that are introduced for the protection of our citizenry fail to address the fact that crime goes up when the economy goes down.

(Sentence 28) re: "crime" - Prohibition propaganda rarely misses an opportunity to link crime, violence, and insanity with "drugs". The propagandist insinuates that prohibited drugs cause evil, and if it weren't for "drugs" bad things would not exist. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) 
 
 
[30]
We need tools to fight drug abuse: 1) a strong economy; 2) education and changed attitudes toward the use of illegal drugs; 3) strong community involvement; 4) accountability by everyone, ranging from law enforcement, prosecutors and judges to our legislators and our governor, and 6) treatment.

(Sentence 30) re: "community" - The health of the "community" (read: government) is assured, prohibitionists explain, because drug users are punished. Jailing drug users is thus painted as upholding society. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) re: "drug abuse:" - "This strategy equates the use and abuse of drugs and implies that it is impossible to use the particular drug or drugs in question without physical, mental, and moral deterioration." [W.White,1979] (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 
[31]
We need to understand that the problem and the real issue is drug abuse, and the causes that perpetuate this illegal activity.

(Sentence 31) re: "drug abuse" - Prohibition propaganda claims that all use of any "drug" is abuse. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 
[32]
Only by addressing the root cause of drug abuse can we begin to get a handle on this new epidemic.

(Sentence 32) re: "drug abuse" - Prohibition propaganda claims that all use of any "drug" is abuse. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) 
 
 

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Comment #15 posted by mayan on April 04, 2005 at 16:18:16 PT

Authoritarians
Michael Spasaro of Lebanon was an undercover agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration and ran last year as the Republican candidate in state House District 11. Jim Feldkamp of Eugene was an FBI special agent, and ran for Congress last year as the GOP candidate in the 4th District.Republican LEO's supporting prohibition? Imagine my shock!I take it they both lost their respective races? Maybe they should ask themselves why. THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...Berger Pleads Guilty to Stealing Classified 9/11 Documents:
http://911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=512&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11: http://100777.com/node/9639/11 Was an Inside Job - A Call to All True Patriots:
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/

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Comment #14 posted by telarus on April 04, 2005 at 15:59:07 PT:

Robert Anton Wilson
"How did they keep this guy under a rock for so long? I don't think he reads anything but FBI and law enforcement brainwashing techniques. Sounds to me like he has applied the techniques to himself."If you'd like to find out how they did it to themselves, and learn tools for preventing it from happening to you, I SERIOUSLY (haha) urge you to look up Robert Anton Wilson's works. He was the first patient to recieve MedCannabis from Santa Clarita. Here's a quote from a recent interview:
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You've had to fight for your right to use marijuana medicinally. How did you become an activist?I've "activized" for various causes since 1959, because I have that sort of temperament. I got involved actively in the medicinal marijuana cause long before my post-polio symptoms made medical pot necessary in my own case. Now, stuck in a wheelchair most of the day, I feel not just activated but super-activated. I supported a wife and four kids most of my life. I have 35 books in print. NEW SCIENTIST called my CAT trilogy "the most scientific of all science-fiction novels." Now, at 73, I'm treated like a child by the TSOG -- and so is my doctor, a fully qualified M.D. Only the Tsar knows what's best for me, medically, and he knows without doing a medical examination even, just by consulting some faith-based organizations... To quote George Carlin "stunningly, STUNNINGLY, full of shit." If you'd like the view of research-based organizations see http://www.medical-marijuana-testimonials.org/
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Homepage: http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml
Linked URL goes to the rest of the interview.
23 Questions With Robert Anton Wilson
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Comment #13 posted by Toker00 on April 04, 2005 at 15:22:53 PT

Drug abuse, drug use, drug abuse, drug use,
Cannabis is not Meth."In 1974, 25.4 million Americans used illegal drugs; in 2001 that number dropped to 15.9 million. That means that 5 percent of the American population use illegal drugs and 95 percent of us do not."That's because 95% of you are busy using the legal drugs. The ones proven to be far more damaging to the body, mind and soul, than Cannabis. And if you think only 5 out of every 100 people use illegal drugs, you are fooling yourself. I would guess more like a 25*75 split. I would say another 25% of the 75% use legal drugs. Then there's the senior citizens who virtually all use drugs. That leaves Mr. Drug Free America in the minority. And that's if he doesn't drink coffee. Or smoke anything. Or take medication. Or drink alcohol. Must be lonely at the top."Drug abuse has been around for thousands of years, but we have made significant progress in fighting drug use and trafficking in America. On the demand side, the U.S. has reduced casual use, chronic use and addiction, and has prevented others from even using drugs." How did they keep this guy under a rock for so long? I don't think he reads anything but FBI and law enforcement brainwashing techniques. Sounds to me like he has applied the techniques to himself. Use/abuse has an up and down fluctuation. And you'll never stop the smuggler, baby. You just ain't catchin' as many as you use to. Too busy with the Terror war, maybe?Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!(medicine)(energy)(nutrition)
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Comment #12 posted by global_warming on April 04, 2005 at 15:05:08 PT

re:10
"Be not dumb driven cattle. Be a hero in the strife!"Like those Neanderthals, that mysteriously faded into the forgotten passages of Time, the Son of Man, has the Holy Spirit, and those driven cattle will use every device to control this awakening, they are so afraid of this spirit, they know, that Power and Glory, is to God.gwhttp://www.mercola.com/1999/archive/dmso_and_vitamin_b12.htm
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on April 04, 2005 at 15:00:36 PT

Yes they have!
"Drug abuse has been around for thousands of years, but we have made significant progress in fighting drug use and trafficking in America." They've made an entire stinking industry of it! I'm so sick of hearing "abuse"...they've twisted the meaning of the word to nothing more than someone doing something they disapprove of. The way they put it you abuse your bed everytime you go to bed and abuse your hairbrush everytime you brush your hair. "Abuse" is what they need upside their heads a few times so they'd know what it really used to mean. Abuse is not use. It's more of the manipulation crap and I just abhor manipulative people. They "abuse" their right to be in the presence of other human beings.
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on April 04, 2005 at 14:34:51 PT

I'm reminded of Robert Louis Stevenson's words
"Be not dumb driven cattle. Be a hero in the strife!"
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on April 04, 2005 at 14:30:42 PT

It's all about manipulation...pure and simple
They know the majority of people feel that cannabis is relatively harmless and they have to do something about that. Their livelihood depends on it.They are using basic psychological manipulation. It's a crime. They find things that many people are still afraid of and link them to the point that the people can’t think of one without thinking of the other and use the ploy at every opportunity to pound it into us so that they are inextricably linked in the minds of every individual. Many of them have already fooled themselves into believing it as well.History will be amiss if one hundred years from now the manipulative techniques they used against the citizens to maintain a high acceptance of prohibition is not mentioned. I feel sure it will be.If there really was a media and they weren’t scared stiff of the government and law enforcement they would be pointing this out to the citizens. But no…the puppets are cooperating with our “masters” instead of informing us.
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Comment #8 posted by goneposthole on April 04, 2005 at 14:16:37 PT

blah, blah, blah
The Red Lake, Minnesota high school shooter was prescribed Prozac.Pharmaceutical manufacturers are accomplices to murder, yet they continue to produce dangerous legal drugs and enjoy profits. They're slipping a little.Don't use legal drugs. In fact, fight against them. Again, they kill. Smoke cannabis, it always helps.
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Comment #7 posted by dongenero on April 04, 2005 at 14:01:16 PT

look at the authors' backgrounds
and you can see where their bread has been buttered.They are part of the prohibtion for profit system.
The war against our own citizens rights.The harms they have brought on our society by profiting from the prohibtion system and therby bolstering organized crime, are far greater than any harm cannabis could ever have caused. 
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Comment #6 posted by dongenero on April 04, 2005 at 13:49:50 PT

I should proof read, sorry
>>>>lumping it in with illegal drugs
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Comment #5 posted by dongenero on April 04, 2005 at 13:48:07 PT

gee, they don't mention alcohol do they
Hmmm, they've tied cannabis and tobacco in with methamphetamine but there is no mention of alcohol.I suppose I would infer that the authors are non-smoking alcohol drinkers. Maybe they are afraid of invoking the "P" word....Prohibtion. The great failed experiment.They say they are winning the war on nicotine while lumoing it in with ileegal drugs which leads me to believe they want to have tobacco criminalized.Positioning a comparison of Camels to Winstons, as to a comparison of cannabis to meth, crack or PCP is absolutely ridiculous! 
Maybe a comparison of Northern Lights to Santa Marta Gold is what they really meant to say.They go on to say, "When we put the word "medical" in front of a drug, does it not affect the attitude of our youth?"
Well, how does it affect our youth if we put the word medical before Oxycontin, Darvocet, Prozac or Percocet?
My answer...I'm not sure...but I'm not sure what their point was either.They mention nothing about how the current unregulated market we have under prohibition affects availability of cannabis to children, the further exposure prohibition gives them to hard drugs by association. Not to mention crime and violence fostered by supporting a black market.The above article is blatantly idiotic and it makes one wonder how this ridiculous collection of "arguments" ever sees publication.
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Comment #4 posted by E_Johnson on April 04, 2005 at 13:40:24 PT

The question I'd like to ask them
Are grown men normally forced to accept ritual sexual abuse when they join the DEA, or was the lawsuit in Canada an anomaly?
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on April 04, 2005 at 13:02:40 PT

Druid 
I sure can relate to what you said.
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Comment #2 posted by Druid on April 04, 2005 at 12:59:13 PT

Meth - bah!
Most the speed freak type of people I have had the misfortune of running across in my life hate Cannabis. It brings them down.I have met quite a few of these "meth" heads that have never tried cannabis before but they have however loved to drink the Alcohol. Go figure.
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Comment #1 posted by global_warming on April 04, 2005 at 12:57:48 PT

Figure This One Out
"Does that mean that everyone who uses marijuana will go on to harder drugs? Of course not. However, during our time in law enforcement we never met a meth addict who did not first use marijuana."Have you ever met a meth addict who did not first use suger in his breakfast cereal, who first used tobacco, who first watched MTV, who played hooky from school, and on and on.One could link meth with any substance both legal or illegal, but can such a link be scientifically established? 
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