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Back With a Bong 
Posted by CN Staff on December 03, 2004 at 17:36:55 PT
By John Patterson
Source: Guardian Unlimited UK
They were the spliff-toking bozos whose frazzled movie capers and comedy shows made millions. Now Cheech and Chong have reunited. John Patterson meets them in LA."The reason we're so dangerous," Cheech Marin once said of his wildly successful comedy partnership with Tommy Chong, "is because we're totally harmless." As I flounder hither and yon attempting to interview the pair, I'm tempted to replace the adjective "harmless" with "useless".
I call Tommy to confirm on the day of our double interview. He postpones, his voice blurred with sleep, and says he'll make new arrangements with his handlers. He evidently forgets, and so I encounter them separately; Tommy at home tomorrow, Cheech this afternoon.The next morning their agent shows up in person to superintend my meeting with Tommy, lending the occasion something of the air of a monitored prison visit. He has told me that I should be sparing with questions about Tommy's recent nine-month incarceration for selling drug paraphernalia over the internet, although Tommy himself will prove endearingly voluble on the topic. Considering all the stoner trademarks leading up to the encounters - the confusion, the no-shows, the invigilated interview and the monolithic, pot-racked reputation that has dogged the pair for years - they really should have been stoned out of their minds.But no. Cheech and Chong are very far from - despite being outwardly very near to - their images as blunt-huffing bozos. These days Cheech is a well-regarded character actor in movies like Tin Cup and Desperado, and on Don Johnson's cop show Nash Bridges. He collects Hispanic-American art and recently sent his extensive collection round America's museums. Tommy is quite the serious student of comedy, citing Beyond the Fringe, the Goons, Monty Python and his one-time friendship with Peter Sellers as he talks about the science of what makes him chuckle. Cheech, though reliably charming and engaged, is the slightly darker, more cynical presence, while Tommy's demeanour is as sunny, benign and welcoming as the large room we meet in at his airy, well-decorated house. We're talking because several of their movies, including the unlikely 1978 money-spinner Up in Smoke, are to be released on DVD in Britain, but also because the pair are planning another movie together, 20 years after calling it a day."We're working on it," says Cheech. "In fact, we were working on it before Tommy got sent away." Tommy's daughter, the actress Rae Dawn Chong, wrote a screenplay mainly to get them to collaborate again and, as she'd hoped, they junked her work and started their own script. "Cheech and I, we've been so tight in the past, it feels like we worked together just yesterday," says Tommy.In their comedy albums and movies Cheech and Chong had a classic simplicity as a comic team. Cheech was the maniacally irrepressible little Chicano, in beanie and zapata moustache, ever solicitous toward his pimped-out lowrider and endearingly frenzied in the presence of large-breasted stoner cuties. Tommy Chong was the laid-back hippie buddha, utterly unflappable because utterly zoned at all times. Up in Smoke made about $100m and Cheech says he gets "enormous residual cheques from it every year. I mean, they're huge."The pair met in Canada in 1968. Cheech, quite contrary to his image, was a straight-A student and the son of a Los Angeles cop. "I grew up half in South Central and half in the San Fernando valley," he says, and was the only Chicano in either. "It was, let's say, bicultural. All black, then all white."After college he headed north to escape the draft. "I was part of the draft resistance movement in LA where we did demonstrations at the draft centre and burned our cards and made a lot of trouble on campus. I had a student classification and they said that anybody who'd taken part in these demonstrations would be reclassified and drafted. And that's when I went to Canada."Tommy was a self-described "racial mutt", part-Canadian, part-Chinese, from the prairie cow town of Calgary. He was making his way as a musician when he and Cheech hooked up. In Vancouver, they had a band that got more response from its comic patter and sketches between songs. Soon enough the patter took over. "Our first gig was a battle of the bands," says Cheech. "We did 45 minutes of comedy and never played a note - and we won!"After nine months in Vancouver, the pair decamped to Los Angeles and played their act in insalubrious surroundings. "Back then, there were no comedy clubs," says Tommy. "We played strip clubs, folk clubs, jazz clubs, black clubs." They caught the eye of record producer Lou Adler, the force behind musicians as disparate as Sam Cooke, Spirit, Lou Rawls and the Mamas and the Papas. Lou had grown up a Jew in heavily Chicano Boyle Heights. "Lou's best friends as a kid were in gangs and in jail, so he knew where we were coming from," says Tommy. "The other record companies looked us over but we were too radical for them.""No one else was doing pothead comedy at the time," recalls Cheech. "The Firesign theatre was doing something more cerebral and druggy, but no one was doing anything about being high. To the intelligentsia we were, like, oh so behind-the-curve, but to the general public we were ahead of the curve. We were the curve."There followed six comedy albums that sold in the millions, years of sold-out comedy tours, then six movies. Despite some heavy drug usage on occasion, the pair claim to have led relatively abstemious lives on the road. "The fact of the matter is we toured so much we were always straight," says Cheech. "We belonged to the YMCA. Everywhere we'd go, we'd check into the hotel, go to the Y, play basketball, get a massage and then go party afterwards. We'd seen so many of our friends get wasted and turn from really bright, intelligent guys into blithering idiots, and we weren't about to do that." All this from two guys who opened their first movie smoking a joint filled with marijuana-laced dogshit and ended it re-enacting their battle-of-the-bands triumph, with Cheech in a tutu.As Cheech and Chong admit, their movies are curiosities now, but enjoyable enough. I watched several recently while fortified in the appropriate manner. Despite several deep guffaws, I was unable to recreate the chuckleheaded atmosphere of my first midnight screening of Up in Smoke 25 years ago.But reputations will endure, just as surely as times will change. Tommy was enjoying himself as a revived period icon on That 70s Show, playing ageing hippie Leo, when his business, Chong Glassware, which sold bongs over the internet, was busted by the Justice Department in 2002. "John Ashcroft's just a fuckin' Nazi," says Cheech. "He had this little campaign to patrol the internet and he needed a face for it and Tommy was the face." Tommy was persecuted for his public image. Assistant District Attorney May Houghton wrote in a special pleading before Tommy's sentencing: "The defendant has become wealthy throughout his entertainment career through glamorising the illegal distribution and use of marijuana."Tommy is more forgiving. "We almost owe Ashcroft a debt. It's the best publicity gimmick. If I didn't know better, I'd almost think our PR people put him up to it."How to exploit this publicity? "We did six records, then six movies," says Cheech. "Now we need to do six of something else, so we get 666 - and then our master Satan can return!"The Cheech and Chong Collection is out now on Universal.Source: Guardian Unlimited, The (UK)Author: John PattersonPublished: Friday, December 3, 2004Copyright: 2004 Guardian Newspapers LimitedContact: letters guardian.co.ukWebsite: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Related Articles & Web Site:He's Taking One Big Hithttp://freedomtoexhale.com/tommy.htmWill Chong's Freedom Go Up in Smoke?http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17396.shtmlTommy Chong Will Be Free in Prisonhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17351.shtmlAshcroft's Errant Hammerhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17297.shtml
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Comment #16 posted by afterburner on August 10, 2005 at 07:26:47 PT
RE Comment #8: OT -- Michael Moore Update
KSDK FEC Clears ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’
http://tinyurl.com/8tvew
CBS News - 11 hours ago
(AP) Michael Moore's anti-Bush documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11” lived on at the Federal Election Commission after it left theaters. ... Michael Moore: TC film fest will finish in the black
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WOOD-TV, MI - 6 Aug 2005
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. Michael Moore is declaring the first-ever Traverse City Film Festival an artistic and financial success. The ... 
What Michael Moore (and the neocons) don't know about Saudi Arabia
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Salon - 4 Aug 2005
... Instead, Saudi Arabia has been pilloried by figures such as Michael Moore, whose film "Fahrenheit 9/11" crudely demonizes the kingdom as part of its simple ... 
Michael Moore already rattling US health service
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Monsters and Critics.com, UK - 7 Aug 2005
Maverick film-maker Michael Moore's latest attention-grabbing documentary is in development - and it has already thrown the American health service into ... Houston Chronicle Michael Moore says Sicko has HMOs feeling funny
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Houston Chronicle, United States - 2 Aug 2005
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — Michael Moore says his next documentary already has HMOs quaking in their boots. Moore has not yet begun ... 
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on December 08, 2004 at 12:07:24 PT
could be, maybe...
a jab at ole Arnold, the toking body builder.(Personally, back in the day...I loved exercising under the influence.)
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on December 08, 2004 at 11:58:56 PT
Good one, Tommy!
"I was more into bodybuilding and things like that," 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on December 08, 2004 at 11:37:42 PT
Related Article from The Associated Press
Up in Smoke: Tommy Chong Takes the StageJohn Rogers, Associated PressDecember 08, 2004 LOS ANGELES - It was pot that made him famous and pot that helped put him in prison. So it seems only natural that Tommy Chong's first big gig since leaving the joint would be in a play called "The Marijuana-Logues.""I'm trying to change my image," jokes the taller, bespectacled half of comedy's ultimate doper duo, Cheech and Chong.Only in this case, it's not entirely a joke. At 65, with his long dark hair and beard turning seriously gray, Chong may still be talking about pot - but he's doing it off-Broadway."I'm trying to go from nightclubs to the legitimate stage," he says of his role in the three-man ensemble show at New York's Actors Theatre. "I love the fact that it's in New York. Legitimate theater. New York. That's always been my dream."If that sounds surprising, it turns out that Thomas B. Kin Chong is full of surprises. For one thing, he's soft-spoken and articulate - nothing at all like the character he's played in films, nightclubs and on television and comedy albums for more than 30 years. The father of six says he hasn't touched marijuana in two years, joking that's why authorities found nearly a pound when they raided the Pacific Palisades home he shares with Shelby Chong, his wife of more than 30 years."In the old days, they wouldn't have found a seed," Chong says with a laugh, as he prepares to leave for New York.Chong was never charged with marijuana possession because the agents who arrested him were looking for smoking materials made by Nice Dreams, a company named for one of his Cheech and Chong films, and had not included marijuana in the search warrant. He ended up serving nine months after pleading guilty to conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia.He maintains that what authorities say were bongs and water pipes actually were examples of the fine blown-glass art he has exhibited over the years. He says he agreed to plead guilty to spare his son Paris, who ran Nice Dreams, any legal troubles."He put his heart and soul into it," Chong says quietly. Quickly brightening, he adds, "He's back in school now so it all worked out. He's studying to be a lawyer. I figure he may as well learn something the family can use."Most of Chong's children have followed their father into acting, many appearing in his films. Best known is Rae Dawn Chong, who has appeared in dozens of movies including "The Color Purple" and "The Principal," as well as in the TV series "Wild Card." Other acting Chongs include son Marcus ("The Matrix"), daughters Robbi and Precious, and son Gilbran.It was Precious Chong, her father says, who best described his nine months in prison as a "religious retreat," where he took part with fellow inmates in Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist and Lakota Sioux ceremonies. "Actually I enjoyed it," he says of prison. "It was like being at camp in a way."Chong says it wasn't hard to give up marijuana because it's not physically addictive. In any event, he says, he was never that much of a stoner. "I was more into bodybuilding and things like that," he says. "My humor, it's always been observational, just cracking up at all the stupid things stoners do."So he's hoping life won't imitate art when he appears in "The Marijuana-Logues" in New York through most of December and then on the West Coast (with cities to be announced) beginning in February."My fans usually show up the day after I go on," he jokes. Then, breaking into his more recognizable laid-back stoner drawl: "I was going to come down sooner, man, but then I fired one up and I got here - next year?"Chong describes the three-man show, which has been running off-Broadway since March, as a parody of Eve Ensler's "The Vagina Monologues," with the three actors comically addressing the rites and rituals of getting stoned."Instead of talking about our private parts, we spend the night talking about our smoking parts," he says.The show's producer couldn't be happier."We've been off and on in discussions with Tommy about doing it since he got released several months ago, and we're real excited to have him," said producer Lee Marshall. "He's just a natural for the role. We're selling a lot of tickets in New York and I think when we go on the road we'll probably sell out everywhere we play."While Marshall is a fan of Cheech and Chong, his children know Chong from television's "That '70s Show."However the show fares, Chong doesn't seem to be wanting for work.Since his July release from prison, he has been finishing an autobiography and plans to return next year to "That '70s Show" and his recurring role as Leo, the stoned-out, aging hippie. He doesn't know yet how his absence will be explained. "Maybe they'll say I was in jail," he chuckles.After that there is the long-awaited return of Cheech and Chong. He and Cheech Marin haven't made a film together in 20 years, but a new one, still untitled, is in the works. It will reunite Pedro and Man, the bumbling dopers who staggered through the 1970s and 1980s in such films as "Up in Smoke," "Nice Dreams" and "Still Smokin'.""No, they haven't gotten smarter with age," Chong says of the characters. "But they're still the same lovable guys."The comedy team's long-dormant partnership, Chong adds, never amounted to an estrangement. Although they saw little of each other over the years, he says, they always kept in touch and remained friends. His partner agrees."I always cared about him and he always cared about me," Marin says. "We actually tried to get together a couple other times, but the timing wasn't right then."So what broke them up?"We just got sick of each other," Marin laughs. "We'd been together 17 years. We just kind of didn't want to listen to each other anymore. We both wanted to go our separate ways."Since the split, Marin has sought to broaden his career, playing Don Johnson's detective sidekick in TV's "Nash Bridges" and taking roles in a variety of films. Chong, on the other hand, has generally stuck with the laid-back stoner role in such films as "Best Buds," "High Times Potluck" and "Far Out Man," also writing and directing the latter. In recent years he and his wife have toured with a nightclub act that features various versions of his stoner role.Chong and Marin say they began planning their reunion before Chong's arrest. The incident was the first brush with the law either had in 50 years. Chong acknowledges being busted for joy-riding in his native Canada when he was 15. As for Cheech, now 58, "My dad was a cop," he says, explaining his impulse for staying out of trouble.The two met in Canada, where Marin had moved after studying English at California State University, Northridge, and where Chong was running a topless nightclub that offered improvisational comedy. Chong had dropped out of high school to pursue music, touring for a time with the Vancouvers, for which he co-wrote the rhythm and blues hit, "Does Your Mama Know About Me."Say what you will now about the subject of Cheech and Chong's humor, the two were ahead of their time in some respects. Decades before multiculturalism became hip, the Canadian-born Chong, whose truck driver father was Chinese, and Cheech, the Mexican-American son of a Los Angeles police officer, could bill themselves as the world's only "Chicano-Chinese-Canadian comedy team."Though their act had its limits, its appeal endures."What Cheech and I did, and we still do, is we told the truth about a culture. And truth endures," Chong says. "We played the lowest common denominator, the stoner. ... We not only made people laugh but we also reflected a society that's been around since the beginning of time."ON THE NET:http://www.cheechandchong.comCopyright: 2004 The Associated Presshttp://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/10368768.htm?1c
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Comment #12 posted by afterburner on December 06, 2004 at 21:45:07 PT
Tommy Chong -- LOL! LMAO!
Tommy Chong , Pierre Berton & Escape From America
http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3278.html{Tommy Chong gets chonged on Leno by SNL's Mary Mohlar. Pierre Berton, Canadian author in favour of marijuana smoking, has died. Trailer for Trailervision's "Escape From America" about reefer refugees and others coming to Canada to avoid the US's war on itself. This WAS "Escape To Canada", but it seems that with the times the way they are...}
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Comment #11 posted by JustGetnBy on December 05, 2004 at 07:07:39 PT
Re: Tommy Chong
In some comments below some seem to think Tommy Chong is showing cowardice, or lack of integrity by using his recent experience with the DEA/Judicial/Prison systems. I think that is a little harsh. I no more blame him for using his god given talent than I would a carpenter for sawing wood and driving nails.  Tommy stood up to this Federal behomith and came out the other side unscathed and making jokes at their expense. He endured 270 + days and nights as a prisoner of the state. Denied his freedom, family, and ability to make a living. He did this I believe to protect his family. The beast ,that would be the DEA/Federal prosecutors, offered him a deal, lie down and cooperate while we steal your life, or we will steal the lives of your wife and son, and we'll take your home away as well.  Until you've looked down the barrel of a gun pointed at your head ( in your own home I might add)you have no idea what the beast is capable of. Tommy Chong has done that, and he knows first hand what they can and will destroy, and yet he has the courage to point his finger at the beast and make a public joke of the insane heartles laws and policies of the Govt.  I say Hurrah to Tommy Chong. I hope never to have to test my own courage as he was forced to do, and I hope that I would stand up to it as well as he has. 
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on December 04, 2004 at 08:58:50 PT
Kaptinemo, comment 5
"Mr. Ashcroft was seemingly more concerned about holding prayer meetings in government offices on taxpayer's time, wrapping rags around bronze boobies and setting his rabid goons to attack sick MMJ patients..."That reminds me of, "They worship me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."P. S.:Kap, knowing you'd likely sign on around four this morning, I considered last evening...or early this morning...that if I "stayed up just three more hours I can probably speak to Kap."I chose to get the rest for today, but I smiled when I saw you were the first poster this morning after my late night frustration with being the last poster. “Seize the day!”
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Comment #9 posted by The GCW on December 04, 2004 at 07:02:58 PT
What Tom & people are saying; things are tweaked.
Airport pat-downs I find the new policy of frisking female air travelers extremely disturbing. I was leaving for a business trip recently and was subjected to being "patted down." I do not wear an under-wire bra, so metal was not scanned, yet someone I didn't know was touching my breasts in public. I am 55, have had two children and have no problem when I am examined by my doctor or have yearly mammograms. Yet I found this humiliating. I can't imagine how women who have been traumatized in the past will weather this invasive treatment. According to child abuse statistics, one in four women is sexually abused by age 18. If this is upsetting for a middle-aged woman like me, this will be traumatic for many. I do not believe it will increase homeland security. Carol Weisman 
St. Louis County http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/editorialcommentary/story/A1C8AD56DAA7488A86256F600002EC87?OpenDocument&Headline=Auto+tests+for+emissions+are+effective+in+cleaning+air
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Comment #8 posted by goneposthole on December 04, 2004 at 06:10:13 PT
looks like Tommy is getting the last laugh
If I remember correctly, that is what I said about all of this stuff when it all took place.I suppose it will anger some people that Tommy Chong kind of cashed in on his bad luck and is using the stoner image to line his pockets. A liberal, left wing comedian with no conscience who makes fun of the drug war problem is, in reality, cruel and heartless towards those who have suffered because of the drug war. That is a fair and critical assessment of what he really is doing? Tommy Chong is one big hypocrite? More like Michael Moore who cashes in on 911 just as much as the hypocritical US gov has, is that who Tommy Chong really is? I'll let the Supreme Court decide that one. I'm staying out of it. Hasn't Rush Limbaugh done the same thing? It is funny though, that John Ashcroft has to eat some crow, because that is all he's gained from the stupid ordeal. Serves him right. It is ironic that Tommy Chong has profitted more than he lost because of John Ashcroft. He would serve himself well if he were to champion the cause and get out there and fight against the drug war, instead of cashing in on it. I'd have a lot more respect for him. It's the least he could do for his fellow man. It would redeem him.Enough of this drug war. It ain't funny. It's sick- sick- sick. Maybe it wasn't on John Patterson's mind.The 666 comment made me laugh, though. It is easy to forgive Tommy Chong. He really hasn't done anything wrong. John Ashcroft? I'll forgive him of all of his transgressions. Although, that is hard to do. I hope the door did hit him in the behind when he left. I'll let his God do the judging, the Supreme Court isn't capable of sound judgment.
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Comment #7 posted by mayan on December 04, 2004 at 05:59:05 PT
unrelated...
Has Justice Gone To Pot? 
http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=937Judicial use just might help cause: 
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=311020&category=OPINION&newsdate=12/4/2004&tacodalogin=noLet states decide medicinal pot use:
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~417~2575017,00.htmlHistory of Marijuana as Medicine - 2737 B.C. to Present:
http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=2%2eInfo%20Key%2edb&command=viewone&id=8
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Comment #6 posted by mayan on December 04, 2004 at 05:40:26 PT
kap'n
It's interesting that you bring up O'Neill. The new head of Homeland Security,Bernard Kerik, was warned by O'Neill of an impending attack on the twin towers. Some pretty fishy stuff here...More Cabinet changes, Bush names Kerik to Homeland Security post:
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1085 More on Ohio's rigged election...Conyers to Hold Hearings on Ohio Vote Fraud: 
http://mparent7777.blog-city.com/read/940824.htmVoters’ Lawsuits, Evidence Gathering Continue in Ohio and Florida:
http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=1269Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS
http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/972Public Rally at Statehouse in Columbus,Ohio:
http://www.votecobb.org/Demand a Recount Rally in Columbus, Ohio Saturday:
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4626Protest at Ohio Statehouse Today!
http://www.uacitizensforchange.com/rally/
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Comment #5 posted by kaptinemo on December 04, 2004 at 03:28:14 PT:
The Turkey didn't get fired
 Ashcroft, IMHO, escaped the broiler; he got off scott-free after causing who knows how much damage. Like his entire clique, he was warned of what was about to happen, and did nothing. 9/11 occurred on his watch, and he lightly diddy-bops off into the sunset?WRT 9/11, in the back of my head is a little chant that goes: "In-side job! In-side job!". (The story of John O'Neill, possibly one of the greatest patriots this country has ever known, and his absolutely sh***y treatment by the Bush Justice department for his diligence in trying to warn of the coming horror is but one of the reasons why I say that. If you have streaming video and a broadband connection, go here and watch this : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/ .) Mr. Ashcroft was seemingly more concerned about holding prayer meetings in government offices on taxpayer's time, wrapping rags around bronze boobies and setting his rabid goons to attack sick MMJ patients instead of looking after the security of the nation. Bye-bye, John-Boy, and don't let the door hit you where the Lord split you; I don't want to have to wash the brown, smelly stain off. The man was just so full of it...
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Comment #4 posted by The GCW on December 03, 2004 at 20:57:16 PT
The Thanksgiving where the Turkey got fried.
Interesting observation.The timing is perfect for the Supreme’s show.This occurred on the first day back to campus for colleges across America…after THANKSGIVING Day.This may stick on their minds just a bit more perhaps and it may help with place / time significance.Example: (thought I saw another one…too.)US IN: Edu: Column: Medicinal Marijuana Legalization Merits ConsiderationWhile we were all heading back from Thanksgiving break, Angel Raich was vaporizing some marijuana to bake in her zucchini bread before catching a plane ride to Washington.  -Source: Exponent, The (IN Edu) 
Copyright: 2004 Purdue Exponenthttp://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n1727/a01.html?397
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Comment #3 posted by Hope on December 03, 2004 at 20:02:21 PT
Well...
If the expletive fits.I do tend to agree with him and find myself thinking, "Good for you, Cheech Marin! You got that right!"
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Comment #2 posted by mayan on December 03, 2004 at 18:48:35 PT
Quite a Quote!
"John Ashcroft's just a fuckin' Nazi." - Cheech Marin
                  I have a new-found respect for Cheech! I can't wait for their new movie!THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...Case Not Closed on 9/11: Editorial from Richard Falk, Princeton:
http://911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0More FBI 9/11 Whistleblowers Emerge:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/2d/9c/200412031639.af860aad.html9/11 Was an Inside Job - A Call to All True Patriots: 
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/AMENDED AND RESTATED CITIZENS' COMPLAINT AND PETITION
TO ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK FOR AN INDEPENDENT GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION:
http://www.justicefor911.org/Justicefor911Index_111904.php
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on December 03, 2004 at 18:46:45 PT
Just a Comment
With all of the very serious news we've been getting I thought some of you might appreciate an article like this one.
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