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  Pot Supporters Speak Out

Posted by CN Staff on October 26, 2004 at 09:27:18 PT
By Nathan Hudock, Staff Writer 
Source: Maneater 

During the weekend, Columbia played host to the MO NORML/MO Cannabis Coalition State Conference, where Irvin Rosenfeld spoke in support of reforming marijuana laws. Rosenfeld can smoke pot legally, any place and any time, and has been doing just that for the past 22 years. As one of seven medical patients in the country prescribed 12 cannabis cigarettes a day by the federal government, he spoke at the daylong event on Saturday to give his views on medical marijuana.
“I have not taken any other pills for 15 years,” Rosenfeld said. “All I use is 12 cigarettes provided by the government.” He also spoke on campus Friday in Hulston Hall at an “ask the experts” session. The events came on the heels of the Nov. 2 election, where two propositions on the Columbia ballot will deal with marijuana law. Proposition 1 seeks to allow seriously ill patients to use medical marijuana without fear of being arrested, while also protecting the doctor who prescribed the treatment. Proposition 2 would make marijuana laws the “lowest law of enforcement priority,” by reducing the penalty for a misdemeanor amount down to $250. Howard Wooldridge, a founding member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, said he believed decision of whether a patient needs medical marijuana should be handled in a doctor’s office, not a government building. “We believe all drugs should be treated as a public-health manner,” he said. “Why not let the doctors and professionals who know how to deal with the problem deal with it?” Wooldridge spent 15 years as a police officer and recently rode a horse across the country while wearing a shirt that read “Cops want to legalize pot: Ask me why.” He said that for all the time an officer spends with his head down in a car looking for just a small amount of pot, drunk drivers are speeding past them, putting others’ lives at risk. Keith Stroup, the founder of NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), has been using marijuana since he was a freshman in college. “There is nothing wrong with responsible use,” he said. “Do not vote for a candidate who wants to lock up marijuana users.” Stroup also brought up a national poll by CNN that said 46 percent of adults have tried pot at some point in their life. “In a few years, a majority of people in this country will have tried it at least once,” Stroup said. Source: Maneater, The (Columbia, MO Edu)Author: Nathan Hudock, Staff WriterPublished: October 26, 2004Copyright: 2004 The ManeaterContact: forum themaneater.comWebsite: http://www.themaneater.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:LEAPhttp://www.leap.cc/NORMLhttp://www.norml.org/Missouri NORMLhttp://www.gstlnorml.org/Prescription Pot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19704.shtmlSpeakers Tout Merits of Medical Marijuana http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19703.shtmlPot Advocates Hope Third Try Proves Charm http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19696.shtml

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Comment #37 posted by ekim on October 27, 2004 at 21:04:01 PT
mr soros will be speaking at the press club thurs
Friends and activists-It can very disheartening to see others get recognition for things a person
pours his/her heart, time and money to nurture and grow into successful
endeavors. While I don't want to take away anything from anyone who has also
poured their heart, time and money, and, gets the recognition they are due,
I would like to recognize the contributions of ALL of the people who made
Proposal C and the Hash Bash a reality and a success.Recognized and unrecognized activists in chronological orderHASH BASH
1973 Perry Bullard (state rep who smoked a joint at Hash Bash, nearly
censured by MI legislature)
1988 myself (revived Hash Bash from near death with the help of High Times,
MC)
1988 Steve Hager (High Times and originator of the "Hemp Tour")
1988 Jon Gettman & NORML (MC)
1988 Mark Amicone (UM student activist - procured permits)
1989 Don Fielder & NORML
1989 Jesse Walker (UM student activist - procured permits)
1990 Thom Harris (MC, "I Grew Hemp" originator, Freedom Fighter of the
Year)
1990 Rick Engel (UM student activist - procured permits
1991 Julie Gros-Louis (UM student activist - procured permits)
1993 Adam Brook (poured heart, time and money into HB, Coordinator of UM
NORML, MC, publicity, hashbash.com, Freedom Fighter of the Year)
1993 Tom Ness (publicized HB in Jam Rag)
2003 Josh Soper (UM student activist - procured permits, UM NORML)PROPOSAL C
2000 Jim Hudler (who suggested libertarians circulate a MMJ petition)
2000 myself (author of draft language in 2000 and final language of Prop C)
2000 David Raaflaub (libertarian attorney who assisted in refining the 2000
language)
2000 JP DeNoyer (who started Prop C, MMAAYS, and collected many signatures
in 2000 and nearly half of Prop C signatures)
2000 Charles Goodman (who led the 2000 signature drive)
2003 Chuck Ream (poured heart, time and money into Prop C, Treasurer of
MMAAYS, raised money, coordinated signature collection, printed signs and
lit)
2004 Marijuana Policy Project (major funding)-Rich BirkettPS I want to invite Willie Nelson to speak at the 2005 Hash Bash. Good idea?
Other suggestions?yes Rich please have Eminem: join the brave souls on the list above.
http://www.aammi.org
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on October 27, 2004 at 18:09:44 PT
Hope 
This year I really believe the true spirit of America is alive and well. When my husband is finished working this week we are digging in for a countdown to elections weekend. We are in a way wanting to celebrate this spirit we see and it's just a wonderful time right now.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on October 27, 2004 at 17:59:35 PT
Maybe the true spirit of America still lives
Mosh indicates, that at the very least it's got a pulse. Wow. "If I get sniped tonight"...It's difficult to believe it was even publicly played. Way to go, Eminem! I was afraid people were just going to blindly sit back and take whatever they decide to throw at us.
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on October 27, 2004 at 17:51:13 PT
Hope
It impacted me too. I only saw in on the computer and a little of it on Countdown on MSNBC. What a time we are living in. I am amazed at the passion people have about who will be running our country in the future. From young to old and everyone in between are on top of this election. It's good to see America caring like this too. 
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on October 27, 2004 at 17:40:02 PT
Mosh
Just saw it on MTV2. That was somethin!
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on October 27, 2004 at 17:25:07 PT
Nuevo Mexican I Thought You'd Appreciate This!
Get Ready for a November SurpriseA "black young'n" says the polls and pundits just don't get the new voter realities. Kerry wins in a blowout, predicts this Salon reader.By Kevin CrissOct. 27, 2004 | I am a 21-year-old African-American/loyal Salon reader/ frequent writer to you. Although I love you all a lot and, like you (assuming so), I am a liberal, I just feel I have to scream at you for a bit. Almost two weeks ago, I sent a letter to you guys telling you how the new Eminem song "Mosh" has many young'ns riled up, angry, motivated and against Bush. Now 10 days or so later, not only you guys but many publications are up on it. My point? Maybe you guys should listen more to us young'ns, maybe have a young person consultant of sorts. After all, we will decide this election, as I will point out later in this letter. First, let me just say prepare for the death of polls, as that will be the dominant story coming out of election night. First blacks. I saw Ann Coulter on some show where she was literally speaking for black America. Being that she is an aging white chick with poorly dyed roots, she obviously got it wrong. Those polls saying how Bush will get 16 to 18 percent of the black vote are just wrong. To quote ODB, "Nigga please." Since black people aren't really polled, here is a bit of insight. Although we aren't that excited about Kerry, he has nothing to worry about with the African-American community. We as a whole don't like Bush, period. Yes, Democrats take us for granted and regardless of which party, we are at the bottom of the totem poll, but we realize that Democrats talk to us, try with us, are down with us, and give us a seat at the table. We are gamed to what the GOP do, or rather don't do for us. 
Locally, as all politics are, as a person living in Louisiana, I can tell you that the more racist persons here are a part of the Republican Party and to us the GOP chooses them over us. Plus, we are highly motivated. You just don't realize how pissed we are from Florida last time. Bringing out Clinton won't hurt, but Kerry shouldn't worry about us African-Americans. 
 
  
 
 
Next, us young'ns. We aren't as stupid as people think. Simply put, we are in Iraq fighting or we know someone there, we have no health insurance, no jobs, and are generally pro-human rights (not for the gay marriage amendment, PATRIOT Act, etc.). We aren't going to vote for Bush, period. Kerry will take about 70 percent of the young vote. I am predicting, collectively there will at least 20 million more voters from these two groups, young'ns and blacks. You maybe think "yeah the fuck right" -- but trust me. On average 30 percent of African-Americans vote. Expect a minimum of 50 percent this time, maybe close to double. That is anywhere between 7 to 9 million more blacks voting. Young'ns will have a similar margin. Again, we at most vote at a 40 percent rate. Young'ns will easily double their numbers, going from 18 million to about 36 million. Here are things to ponder. Kerry wins Arizona: This state has the most college students per capita. Kerry will win Flagstaff, Tucson and Tempe. Throw in Native Americans, Latins, and even moderate Republicans who will vote Democratic (they got the Democratic governor elected), and oh I forgot all the Independents, Kerry will win this state. Kerry wins Nevada: This state simply comes down to Vegas. Kerry will win Vegas by a big enough margin to cancel out the rest of the state. Kerry win Missouri: What people either don't realize or just don't give a fuck to report is that the black mobilization efforts in St. Louis and Kansas City are second to none, literally. Florida got the attention last time, but people seem to have forgotten that blacks there were denied the right to vote at many polling places that were closed on them. Throw in college towns, Kerry wins. Kerry wins Minnesota: I can't believe people actually think this state is close. What people tend to forget is that voters here can register as you vote. Throw in Ventura's endorsement and the young'ns. Kerry wins Colorado: Sometimes people just got to listen to the streets. I have family and friends in Colorado, and what they tell me is that "Fahrenheit 9/11" has had a huge impact there, so much so they are still talking about it, and as people watched it they were changed by it. How can a tradtional red state have a rich ass Senate candidate getting his ass kicked and polls showing Bush/Kerry within the margin. Kerry wins. Kerry wins Texas: PSYCH! But just as people are saying Kerry wins CA, NY, and NJ by closer margins, so does Bush take his own state. I'll go out on a margin and say Bush gets no more than 60 percent in his own state. Holla. Just to save space and time: Kerry wins Arkansas, New Mexico, Ohio, Florida, N. Hampshire, and Penn. He may lose Iowa, as I really don't know much about that state. Kerry wins nationally in a blowout. Election night is over as central time zone states finish reporting. Why? Because of blacks and young'ns. Bush's people know this, as their strategy is to turn out their base while suppressing our base ... fuckers. I ask that in the future that you at least take in more opinions from us young'ns and Afro Americans. Copyright 2004 Salon.com http://www.salon.com/news/letters/2004/10/27/youngvoter/index.html
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Comment #31 posted by kaptinemo on October 27, 2004 at 10:03:57 PT:
Fogel1963
To answer your question, No. Like so many others, Ms. Raich wasn't so blessed. But you could say that nearly every MMJ issue presently on the books directly results from the closure of the program (by George Bush the Elder in 1991) to new applicants. 
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Comment #30 posted by foge1963 on October 27, 2004 at 08:18:27 PT:
Question
Is Angel Raich one of those 7 who gets marijuana from the goverment? If not, isn't just another case of the Feds against the states? Thanks, Mike
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Comment #29 posted by Nuevo Mexican on October 26, 2004 at 22:15:15 PT
It's on MTV2 now!
Cool! Better cause its bigger! WoW!
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 21:52:01 PT
Nuevo Mexican 
I'm not into Hip Hop but I tried to think if I was young and let it say what it was to say. Young people who are into Hip Hop will really like this video.
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Comment #27 posted by Nuevo Mexican on October 26, 2004 at 21:47:26 PT
I knew you'd like it, here's a comment I like:
thanks for posting a link that has the whole video!From the 'open thread' at dailykos.comEminem "Mosh" (none / 0)I'm not a fan of hip hop. My wife doesn't like Eminem at all. We both just saw "Mosh" for the first time. It is a political anthem on par with the best ever written. We were both moved to tears and I don't do that lightly over hip-hop.
If you haven't seen it yet, scroll down the dKos main page and watch it NOW. If you can watch this and not be moved you are dead inside.This is the mother of all GOTV anthems ever. Make sure EVERYONE SEES THIS. Go to MTV's site and vote for the mother. Everyone needs to see this.Mr. Mathers has more than earned my extreme appreciation and respect. "Mosh" is incredible.Damn Liberals - Another Damn Blog.
 
by michael in chicago on Wed Oct 27th, 2004 at 03:32:22 GMT
 
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 21:34:31 PT
Nuevo Mexican 
WOW is right! 
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 21:28:52 PT
Nuevo Mexican 
I couldn't get it to work but this one is working for me. Thanks!http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
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Comment #24 posted by Nuevo Mexican on October 26, 2004 at 20:52:22 PT
Check out this new video from Eminem: WOW!
I hope everybody here checks this out, it looks like Eminem visits C-News, and checks out all of FOMs' articles, mayans' links, Kaptinemos waxing eloquent, as evidenced by this insightful, quickly done, animated video. This guy is truly amazing, regardless of his checkered past, he more than makes up for any percieved shortcomings with this!Eminem's Video For Anti-Bush Song 'Mosh' Hits The Internethttp://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1493010/20041025/index.jhtml?headlines=true
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Comment #23 posted by siege on October 26, 2004 at 19:39:42 PT
 MMP Nevada
Drug Czar Vows to Fight Legalization of Marijuana
Office of National Drug Control Policy director visits Nevada to stave off newest efforts
Las Vegas Review-Journal; October 21, 2004
by Ed Vogel, Review-Journal Capital Bureau http://www.mpp.org/NV/news_297.html
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 18:39:47 PT
ekim 
Thank you. I just turned on C-Span to check it out. I don't like Baseball but because of it being the Red Sox I was watching it! Too much! 
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 18:36:34 PT
mayan
Thank you for the article. I have it posted now.
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Comment #20 posted by ekim on October 26, 2004 at 18:33:36 PT
Replay of VT Sen debate with Marijuana party
Cris Ericson of VT is on c-span debating others for Sen of VT. she is representing the Marijuana Party. 
\ 
 Lou Dobbs show on Wed will have on Geo Soros
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #19 posted by mayan on October 26, 2004 at 18:20:54 PT
The Majority
Stroup also brought up a national poll by CNN that said 46 percent of adults have tried pot at some point in their life. “In a few years, a majority of people in this country will have tried it at least once,” Stroup said.The majority of people will then realize they've been lied to by the government for years! The government knows that it's time is short and that is why they are trying to bring the rest of the world to it's knees with it. They can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong and hand the reins to those who would steer us to sanity. Sorry if these have been posted...Alaska’s marijuana measure bucks feds:
http://www.maderatribune.com/opinion/opinionview.asp?c=129251Bush Administration Campaigns Against Marijuana Ballots:
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=1074&aid=10The way out is the way in...9/11 Truth Statement - Respected Leaders and Families Launch 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=200410260930596339/11 Victims to Deliver Complaint to NY Attorney General Calling for Full Criminal Investigation of September 11th Attacks:
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=411&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0100 leaders and 9/11 families launch 911 Truth Statement:
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=412&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0"Welcome to my World"- Dr. Philip Zelikow:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/1d/31/200410261116.b5573b86.html9/11 Was An Inside Job - A Call To All True Patriots: 
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/
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Comment #18 posted by kaptinemo on October 26, 2004 at 17:53:10 PT:
Thanx, Shishaldin
I went to that link, and read the entire article. As usual, the last paragraph sums things up very nicely...and chillingly. It demonstrates that this unhealthy polarization has reached dangerous extremes.A local Bush supporter is commenting about the nature of access to Mr. Bush. She states that "Access to the inner circle is available to those who have worked hard in and for the party."The 'inner circle'? The (hushed revernt tone) 'Party'? Now where have I heard that phrase used before? Oh yes, in describing the top leadership of Soviet Russia. It's been said that fascism is more properly called 'corporatism'. But that isn't quite true. Because the eventual shakeout causes society to devolve once more to it's oldest pattern: FEUDALISM. Lords and masters, and serfs. And serfs must show proper 'respect' to their masters, on bended knee and kissing the hand that steals from their lands, brutalizes their children or sends them off to die in foreign wars. But if you are a good enough *ss-kisser, the lord may see you as useful, and give you better rags to wear, and scraps from his table; what an honor!The rot has gone far and deep when a supposedly free human being makes noises as if she were one of those Sov aparatchiki vying for table scraps. Disgusting!
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Comment #17 posted by billos on October 26, 2004 at 17:31:29 PT
Hey Rehnquist, put this in your trache............
and smoke it. Sorry, I'm really a compassionate person. I work with kids 6-15 in the computer tech room. (really.):>)But I fail to have any feelings for this guy. The worst I can feel is neutral.And damn any one of them who condone the perpetual waste of time, money, and lives they call the WoD. 
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 16:44:13 PT
Nuevo Mexican 
Thank you. I was watching Hardball and quick changed the channel and saw about a minute of Bill Maher. Thanks for the heads up.
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Comment #15 posted by Nuevo Mexican on October 26, 2004 at 16:27:50 PT
Bill Maher on CNN Now!
It's 5:40pm here!
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Comment #14 posted by sukoi on October 26, 2004 at 15:30:14 PT
Shishaldin
Thanks!
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 15:29:27 PT
Shishaldin 
Yes we all need peace and strength. It won't be much longer until we know what direction we will be going. I watched Fox News for a change last night for a few minutes and they had a man going on and on about how we can't have Kennedy on the Supreme Court. I thought gosh I never even thought of that and he was really uptight about that possibility. 
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Comment #12 posted by Shishaldin on October 26, 2004 at 15:22:14 PT
sorry... 
I meant sukoi
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Comment #11 posted by Shishaldin on October 26, 2004 at 15:21:20 PT
for siege
I found it here:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041016/NEWS09/410160329/1056Welcome to the new facism, same as the old facism...Peace and Strength (we'll all need it)Shishaldin
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Comment #10 posted by sukoi on October 26, 2004 at 15:08:34 PT
siege (comment #4)
siege, do you have a link to the incident you described in comment #4? 
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 15:00:41 PT
Portion of Poll on Oregon Initiative
KTVH Online NewsInitiatives PollInitiative-148 would legalize medical marijuana. It was favored by a margin of 63-percent with 28-percent opposing it. nine percent of those polled were undecided. Story published / updated: 8:54 AM, Tue Oct 26http://www.ktvh.com/story.php?id=847
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Comment #8 posted by siege on October 26, 2004 at 14:25:27 PT
must see BE CARFULL
False Christianhttp://www.georgewbush.org/
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 14:16:22 PT
Something Funny I Wanted To Share
Last night we watched The Daily Show and Madeline Albright was the guest. At the end of the conversation Madeline Albright said something like this. She said I'd like to be in your space ( Not sure if that was the right word ) and swirled her hand into the air. He said oh if you want to be where I am you would need a Bong and a Grateful Dead Album. She laughed too. It was funny. 
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Comment #6 posted by dr slider on October 26, 2004 at 13:52:54 PT:
?Bush?
How's this as a question for Bush. If C.J. Renquist dies tonight who would you nominate ? or If cannabis is the only thing that will keep the justice alive should he be denied?
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 13:36:35 PT
siege
One thing that has confused me is the blogs. Unless I'm missing the correct blog for Bush and Kerry it seems no comments are allowed on Bush's blog but comments are allowed on Kerrys. If no comments are allowed on the Bush blog then it says to me that they don't care what people think. I looked for a message forum but didn't find one.http://blog.johnkerry.com/http://www.georgewbush.com/blog/
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Comment #4 posted by siege on October 26, 2004 at 13:02:26 PT
What this country come to!!
John Sachs, 18, a Johnston High School senior and Democrat, went to see Bush in Clive last week. Sachs got a ticket to the event from school and wanted to ask Bush about whether there would be a draft, about the war in Iraq, Social Security and Medicare. But when he got there, a campaign staffer pulled him aside and made him remove his button that said, "Bush-Cheney '04: Leave No Billionaire Behind." The staffer quizzed him about whether he was a Bush supporter, asked him why he was there and what questions he would be asking Bush. "Then he came back and said, 'If you protest, it won't be me taking you out. It will be a sniper,' " Sachs said. "He said it in such a serious tone it scared the crap out of me." [Death threats from Bush's Brownshirts. It is definitely time for a revolution.]
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Comment #3 posted by Dark Star on October 26, 2004 at 10:57:57 PT
Arrested Before
Irvin has been arrested before, and hassled many times.Read Bob Randall's book, Marijuana Rx.
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on October 26, 2004 at 10:39:50 PT

foge1963 
I wasn't sure if you knew about the upcoming Supreme Court Case scheduled for November 29th which could change it all for good. Here are a few articles and links. I hope this is encouraging news to you.***Angel Justice:
http://www.angeljustice.org/Angel Raich v. Ashcroft News:
http://freedomtoexhale.com/raich.htmThe Battle Over Marijuana: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19684.shtmlUnlikely Allies Back State on Medical Pot: 
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19641.shtmlState Backs Medical Pot Case Before Court: 
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19640.shtmlKey Medical Pot Case To Be Heard:
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19092.shtml 
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Comment #1 posted by foge1963 on October 26, 2004 at 10:26:43 PT:

government is the dealer
I wish this Rosenfeld would get himself arrested on purpose to prove a point.If he was to get arrested would the government have to go to court? Would this open up the whole medical marijuana issue? Please give me some feed back. I come to this sight every day and I want to thank all the posters here, there's to many to name but as a shop owner I thank you all for your insight.You people are so intelligent and are standing up for what is right. Thank you, Mike
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