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  Cop's Pot Ticket Idea Merits a Trial Run 

Posted by CN Staff on September 26, 2004 at 09:00:24 PT
Editorial 
Source: Daily Southtown  

Chicago police officers are wasting a lot of their time and the taxpayers' money on misdemeanor marijuana cases. That was the central point last week of a pitch made by police Sgt. Thomas Donegan to his boss, Supt. Phil Crane.Donegan submitted some statistics to the superintendent, analyzing the outcome of misdemeanor possession cases involving 30 grams or less. For readers who don't have a metric conversion chart at hand, 28 grams is an ounce.
Here's what Donegan told Cline: 94 percent of cases involving less than 2.5 grams of pot got dropped last year because prosecutors didn't think they were worth pursuing, or there was something wrong with the arrest, or because the arresting officer didn't show up in court. In cases involving between 2.5 and 10 grams, 81 percent were dropped. Fifty-two percent of cases involving between 10 and 30 grams were dropped.Donegan told his boss it's a waste of time for police officers to arrest and book somebody who is almost certainly going to be let off, and it's a waste of money to have cops spending their time making such arrests and going to court to testify about them.There were more than 20,000 arrests in Chicago last year involving 30 grams or less, and almost 7,000 of them centered on 2.5 grams or less.Donegan suggested that the police department could save time and the city would probably make money if, rather than arresting people for possessing minimal amounts of marijuana, police were allowed to write them a ticket.Proponents of a ticket system believe people would be inclined to pay a fine of $250, $500 or $1,000 rather than fight the charges, so police officers wouldn't have to go to court to testify. The proposal would result in more marijuana arrests ending in a legal sanction, and the city would gain revenue rather than waste it.The village of Darien in the western suburbs has handled misdemeanor marijuana cases with tickets since the 1970s. Police officers there have the option of writing a ticket or making a misdemeanor arrest, depending on the circumstances.We think it would make sense for Chicago to try something along the same lines. Mayor Richard Daley seemed to say last week that he liked the idea, although one of his spokesmen backed away from the proposal the same day.Donegan's idea makes sense to us, although we think his schedule of fines is too high. Someone facing a $500 or $1,000 fine is not necessarily going to pay it to save an hour or two, and if people don't pay the fines, cops will be right back in court.Daley, the police department and the state's attorney ought to sit down and talk about this proposal and figure out a way to give it at least a trial run. Source: Daily Southtown (IL)Published: Sunday, September 26, 2004Copyright: 2004 Daily SouthtownContact: dstedit interaccess.comWebsite: http://www.dailysouthtown.com/Related Articles:A Change in Marijuana Prosecution Eyedhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19548.shtmlRegulation Increases Control Over Pot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19540.shtmlU.S. Neither For Nor Against Plan To Fine for Pot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19537.shtml

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Comment #68 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 08:52:18 PT
Off Topic: News Article from Wired Magazine
Long Trip for Psychedelic Drugs By Kristen Philipkoski September 27, 2004 Psychedelic drugs are inching their way slowly but surely toward prescription status in the United States, thanks to a group of persistent scientists who believe drugs like ecstasy and psilocybin can help people with terminal cancer, obsessive-compulsive disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder, to name a just a few. Complete Article: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,65025,00.html?tw=wn_story_page_prev2
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Comment #67 posted by Dankhank on September 27, 2004 at 07:41:48 PT
Nuff said
This poor soul is done with the subject ...
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Comment #66 posted by Truth on September 27, 2004 at 07:36:07 PT
but...
"I'm still not sure how this will work but we are a cannabis related web site not one about coca."I don't really think it's about cannabis or coca, in actuality, it's about FREEDOM. 
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on September 27, 2004 at 07:20:31 PT

Just a Note
I don't have any problem with any plant but when coca is mentioned it makes people who don't know how to separate a plant from a chemically produced product that concerns me. Coca isn't cocaine but politicans and prohibitionists don't care. They want to find ways to stop us and they read CNews and that is my worry. 
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Comment #64 posted by goneposthole on September 27, 2004 at 06:33:53 PT

A little bit of Irish history
for the enlightenment of your poor soul. Alcohol prohibition is compared to cannabis prohibition all of the time. Alcohol prohibition's ending helps this venue immeasurably. It can't be ignored or denied.  And, yes, I do know the difference. I wasn't born yesterday. I have seen the destruction that cocaine has done to loved ones and I didn't particularly like what I witnessed. The cocaine trade is not my bag, mon. However, I do think it should be legal, too. It's ok if that venue is included here, in your opinion. I happen to agree with you. I'm on your side. I have no argument with the coca plant. Maybe Charles Boycott was a strawman, too.Here is what can be said was the 'Luck of the Irish':boycotter n.Word History: Charles C. Boycott seems to have become a household word because of his strong sense of duty to his employer. An Englishman and former British soldier, Boycott was the estate agent of the Earl of Erne in County Mayo, Ireland. The earl was one of the absentee landowners who as a group held most of the land in Ireland. Boycott was chosen in the fall of 1880 to be the test case for a new policy advocated by Charles Parnell, an Irish politician who wanted land reform. Any landlord who would not charge lower rents or any tenant who took over the farm of an evicted tenant would be given the complete cold shoulder by Parnell's supporters. Boycott refused to charge lower rents and ejected his tenants. At this point members of Parnell's Irish Land League stepped in, and Boycott and his family found themselves isolatedwithout servants, farmhands, service in stores, or mail delivery. Boycott's name was quickly adopted as the term for this treatment, not just in English but in other languages such as French, Dutch, German, and Russian.http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=boycottThe hard work of an Irishman can help us, too. Don't berate and belittle. It doesn't help anybody. I have been taught to respect all of life, even some poor drunk's who has seen too much of what distresses him. 
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Comment #63 posted by Dankhank on September 27, 2004 at 06:07:30 PT

Good info
P P:really like what you wrote. I know the police chief here and believe he may be amenable to an approach you describe.Thanks for posting, I will call you in a couple of hours, since it's still early.Peace to all who fight the good fight.
Truth
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Comment #62 posted by Dankhank on September 27, 2004 at 05:58:36 PT

More on the poor coca plant
"Coca: Food, Medicine and Ritual in Bolivia" the story found here:   http://www.narconews.com/Issue34/article1025.htmlOffered here in CANNABISnews for simple reasons.The title of the story of the Coca plant bears striking similarities to what we claim for the noble Cannabis plant.Concentrating the coca produces Cocaine, a process developed due to the drug war for ease of smuggling, which most of us are rightly wary of.So it seems that South Americans and others admire the coca plant as we do the Cannnabis plant.How lucky they must be to have TWO wonderful plants to use for food, medicine and ritual.
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Comment #61 posted by paulpeterson on September 27, 2004 at 05:36:21 PT

ekim
Thanks for noticing that Chicago is my turf. I worked on Daley in 2001, 2202, 2003. I had no idea that this was coming from Chicago, though, until after it happened.This certainly fits the mold as to the means to use to affect change. I have been telling people that we must FIRST go to the highest levels of police enforcement to start change. You see, usually when someone wants to foment a change in policy, they get placards and hit the city council (probably so they can get press to "ignite" a movement). Now substitute the image of peasants with pitchforks and torches banging on the door of some count's castle. The city fathers inside that "castle" react to the angry peasants by knee-jerk turning to the "experts" (they would be the police) and asking what they thought. Now, police always think when there is controversy, their conservative credo requires that they poo-poo the idea. It gets poo-poo'd with some sugar-coating that they will "do a study", the peasants are told to go back to their homes and farms and get back to work-each one gets his own picture to take home also (mug-shots, that is). The press doesn't even want to cover the "event" because that might put them in bad light (like why was the press even there-give them a shot also!).Here, in fact, for the past three years I have been quietly talking with police departments and telling them to be the pro-active ones. They talk calmly with corporation counsel, who, since there is no animus between them, what with no pitchforks and torches showing and all, reach a consensus and start to make small changes. Now, of course, I have 5 villages on the North Shore. Two months ago I sent letters out to 16 more. Each Chief of Police that got those letters knows full well that I am the player in the Chicago gambit. I am, of course, delighted that Daley has so well timed his effort to support my own enlargement of scope. So now you have the formula to work with back in the Castle laboratory. #1 Do your homework and be prepared to answer difficult questions that intelligent police will present. #2 Contact the police at ANY non-adversarial point and tell them your thoughts. #3 Practice makes perfect (and gives confidence and control over anxiety-however their may be other ways to control anxiety-ahem). #4 Go to any open houses at your local police station and try to catch the chief towards the end of the day, when he still sits in his office awaiting citizens, however the lines have dropped off. #5 Go in, sit down, tell the chief you have a controversial story to tell him. #6 Tell him that if he is tired of the way things are, he must be the one to change the story and set some agenda. #7 Tell him you promise never to picket his office and wish to contribute to the community good in any way possible. Ask if there are any programs YOU could help him with (ie: in your own age group or social strata). #8 Promise to get whatever data or documentation he seems to seek and follow-up. #9 Get him to contact others to discuss these things-tell him that a brave police sergeant in Chicago got big press for the department from his input. #10 Watch how the mayor can look so good by merely saying something that the police suggested is merely a "good idea". #11 Notice that no chief of police had to take any heat-they got a "sergeant" to do the dirty-work (in case it didn't go well) #11 Watch how the DRUG CZAR has to eat crow-the guy actually had to say this isn't a "bad idea" or something-and then watch the Waters part-he actually stated that this doesn't mean we're losing-this is BETTER for prohibition or something. #12 Notice how well the story ignited in the press-It has gone nationwide because of the total lack of animus in the event-It is a touchy-feely-good-no-downside-why-didn't-I-think-of-it-first sort of appeal. The police start the story with intelligence (for a change-they always only react to BAD NEWS), a major regional leader and king-maker sees a good idea for good, the press has NO DOWNSIDE to report, the drug czar is compelled to respond on unfamiliar terms and turf and NOW WE HAVE A MOVEMENT & TREND TO CAPITALIZE ON.NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD CITIZENS TO RALLY TO YOUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND START SOME FEEL-GOOD CHANGE IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.OK, back to those other police departments that are right now standing by for instructions-I called one chief and he told me ever since he got my letter he has been "mulling it over philosophically". He thinks the 10 gram limit in Wilmette (Illinois)is too high, but he would consider something smaller and-get this-he has "referred your letter to corporation counsel for their input".Recall, please, that this is MORE PROOF of the formula to avoid animus in the system. Hit these people with kindness-show them that they are part of the community too. Treat them like thinking, intelligent people and they will want to respond likewise. It really works-and now, people all over the world now look at Mayor Daley in a better light-and maybe, just maybe, Chicago will be the first major city East of the West coast to take these bold strides-and I've got 5-10 more villages to add to the "trend". Daley also just sandwiched recalcitrant Evanston directly between two major rebel-held territories-the Village of Chicago & the five bold North Shore communities that have already been doing this for over a year now! (And I can add "Darien" to the list also-they did this in the 70's and THIS IS THE FIRST PRESS THEY HAVE EVER GAINED ON THEIR ISSUE!).Of course, the weirdest thing about all of these things is that the Marijuana Policy Project has twice refused to help me in any way because I am "too unfocused" and "unprofessional in my approach". Why won't these people spend their money wisely-go for local citizen contacts with local police-rather than these pie-in-the-sky pitchfork and torch gigs that only ignite animus! Don't they know that the big-bucks lobbiests can't do squat when the greedy media get their cameras rolling? Every politician gets scared some angry peasant with pitchforks and torches might think he is a LIBORAL or something. Fear is the thing to be feared here.Over and out-end of transmission-If anyone wants a copy of my letter to the police chiefs, call me at my Cannibus Cafe, Vitality Natural Foods-847-853-4200, or mail an envelope to 1100 B Central Ave/Wilmette, Illinois 60091.
Paul Peterson
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Comment #60 posted by Dankhank on September 27, 2004 at 03:51:52 PT

My venue?
This is not My venue, this is not your venue. This is the Cannabis news.You wan't to share a drunk's screed then give us a link."Now, you want to stifle and censor, too. Unbelievable. Sorry that it doesn't conform to your 'venue'. Jeesh"Shake your head all you want, there's no censorship here, just a desire to stay on task. You tell me what this has to do with Cannabis news.I make no pronouncement re: like or no like the coca plant, you say cocaine, I say coca plant. Do you not know the difference?What part of Irish history has been enobled by Irish Whiskey? You can almost sing that.
  
I read your post.FoM, there are a number of John Galts, one is the hero of Atlas Shrugged, a very good book with a message of selfishness as a good thing.John Galt Novelist 1779-1839 Waiting for JohnGalt, a weblog, described as Web journal for self-described rantings on social and political issues of the day from a conservative/individualist perspective. Run by a Michael of some sort ...http://home.wi.rr.com/galtsgulch/johngalt.html if any care.We see one here today, courtesy of C.Bowen who uses JohnGalt as a screenname, I guess.I read the rant, I don't care about alcohol, just alcoholics. 
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Comment #59 posted by goneposthole on September 27, 2004 at 01:55:15 PT

not germane?
Then it might be a good idea to re-ban alcohol, too. With all due respect, I think you should re-read what the author has written..You're entitled to your opinion.  I can disagree and I do. Fact is, it is germane. I happen to hate cocaine, you can like it and love it all you want. It doesn't matter to me. I would prefer that it would be legal, just like alcohol.Now, you want to stifle and censor, too. Unbelievable. Sorry that it doesn't conform to your 'venue'. Jeesh
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Comment #58 posted by dr slider on September 26, 2004 at 23:26:22 PT:

obituary
Goneposthole, I'm surprised to see anyone here using a straw man argument. The man's words, while I'm not fond of his cooption of "progressive", are an eloquent description of how the soul of this nation has been refinanced.Eloquent but not at all inclusive. I wonder where the stories of all of the pre-'37 hemp farmers and their "The tax man showed up today", are.I've looked up "alliegance" and "loyalty" and all of the other things that I pledged to this nation over the years, and wonder ( in repulsion) at the nation it has become. The bridge to Trinity lay on the other side of a nightmare of which we've glimpsed but a fraction. The lucky die first.
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 22:04:47 PT

Dankhank
I must not be up on some issues. I don't even know who John Galt is. I've heard his name but I can't place it in my mind.PS: I don't care about the coca plant one way or the other. I only am concerned about how the powers that be think all drugs are the same and I really feel we need to keep cannabis separate from other drug issues. As long as we do that we might win and I'll be able to retire sooner rather then later from doing news. All things happen in their time I believe.
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Comment #56 posted by Dankhank on September 26, 2004 at 21:43:03 PT

John Galt, you say ...
Take his inebriated ass out of here ...That's all we need in here, a hate screed fueled by alcohol. What made you think it germane to this venue?I'd rather read about the coca plant, another misunderstood, maligned and noble plant co-opted by the drug cartels.I don't come here to hear of inebriated asses and their hate.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 21:37:43 PT

siege 
It's not interrupting the board. Veterans haven't ever been cared for. All the money that was collected for Agent Orange where did it go? My husband has never received any money from the lawsuit. When soldiers come home they are on their own. During the 70s when there weren't any jobs my husband went to the VA to see if they could help. He received a little over 40 dollars for one month and had to work it off at the city department sweeping streets. I'm sure it will be the same in this day and age.
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Comment #54 posted by siege on September 26, 2004 at 21:26:51 PT

  have fun 
hay I did not try to interrupt the board, To express emotions and laughing is good for every one it brakes the bad thing that are going on and makes for ligh harted FUN!! sorry people.
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Comment #53 posted by goneposthole on September 26, 2004 at 21:08:09 PT

A message from John Galt
I Drink for the Old Republic
September 24, 2004
by Charlie Bowen | Special to LibertyForum.org"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - - G. K. ChestertonI drink because the Old Republic is dead and she is not coming back.Less than one hundred years ago, folks in rural America “paid their taxes” with a few days of labor. It might have meant building a one room school house or fixing the roads, but I doubt there was much complaining. The gatherings were really social functions and beer flowed as stories were swapped amongst neighbors. There was real diversity and real tolerance, for there was a real need for community.But all that is gone. All of those organic community relationships, fortified with booze, have been outsourced to our rulers. We now pay our taxes, some 60% of earnings every year, to a class of phony paper shufflers churned out by the meritocracy who handle all such ‘community’ things for our alleged betterment. How did we get here and is this progress?In the early 20th Century, the Century of Progressives, The Progressive movement, this silly belief that an elite of scientists and "professional" managers could do a better job, were taking over the reins of power. They intended nothing less than remaking America and the world in their own twisted sober vision. They promised and end to drunkenness, an end to oppression, an end to war, and later added an end to sickness and disease and an end to want.But rural people were not interested.Progressives of the time and still today, hate rural/real America. They hated the one room school house, and pushed for “school consolidation” all in the name of raising up stupid country folk. “It’s a new age,” they said. Soon, the income tax, endless foreign wars, and alcohol prohibition came to rural America.In order for school consolidation to occur, the Progressives signed on to ‘pave America.’ Good roads would be needed to ship children up to two hours from their country homes to government re-education camps. The great homogenization of America was underway, the Progressives were building a New Man, part Soviet New Man, part Fascist New Man.Corporations caught on to the movement to pave America and threw in their full support. Be it the Seventh Day Adventists in Battle Creek, Michigan who wanted to sell soul cleansing laxative bran flakes in every corner of the country, or Big Oil, they were all too happy to see America the Beautiful paved over to increase their bottom line. Big Business, those who could master distribution rather than quality, pressed for the access to new markets, and they promised rural people that they too would get access to new markets.And still, rural people were not interested. The Progressives reasoned rural people were too stupid, hence their apprehension, so they secured monies from the Federal government and took lands by eminent domain in order to build roads. Bond issues were sold to pay for the roads on the installment plan. A cycle of debt followed and the paper shufflers and Wall Street bond traders were happy to oblige, stock brokers were all too happy to rush funding to the masters of distribution, and the wizards of advertising were ready to tackle the mass market.The farmer faced with new competition needed a tractor, which he could not afford, so he bought one on the installment plan. Soon wives were demanding their husbands buy cars, which they could not afford so they bought them on the payment plan as well. Children were soon asking to go to college, fresh with their consolidated high school diplomas; they had seen too much to envision life at home. College was also paid for on the installment plan.(Thanks to bond issues for debt financing, the dollar today is worth only 1/18th of what it was worth one hundred years ago, and now everything down to televisions and vacations are paid for on the installment plan.)The roads also took the children out of town, sapping the countryside of its vitality; the roads took them as far away as Iraq…sent there in order to secure more oil so kids can keep getting away from home. Beer, which came back in 1933, was now in the hands of those who could handle distribution, the Coors, Schaefers, Anheusers and Buschs, rather than the local beer artisan with his respect for the craft. During the Second World War, malted rice became the chief ingredient rather than malt from the amber fields of grain.America was paved over and the roads brought distribution trucks, indeed. In the land of hemp and beer, soon cocaine, Ecstasy and OxyContin would arrive.Government policy directed by Progressives has remade America, and the process continues down to this day to urban beer halls where smoking has been outlawed, and the corporate bar, complete with blaring top 40 music, $4 Bud bottles and a clientele straight from a Gap Commercial, reigns. If we, those who still long for the Old Republic, are to retake our government, it will come from our beer halls, as it always has, which is precisely why the family owned pub is being converted into an Applebees.The enemy knows where we gather.Debt has piled on debt. The Baby Boomers are set to retire and they will pull their money out of the stock market to pay for trips to exotic places and Indian casinos. They will bankrupt the federal government once and for all with Social Security, healthcare, and claims to free drugs. Parents, too proud to ask their kids for money, will be all too happy to use the government to pick their children’s pockets. Children, bitter that their parents abandoned them to “professional” daycare, another creation of the Progressive, will be all too happy to leave dear old ma and pa in the hands of “professional” care.Beyond community relationships, the Progressives have destroyed family relationships.The Old Republic is dead, and I mourn her passing every night with a pint of ale.The Progressives, with their fancy Ivy League degrees and their silly elections pitting two Yalies from some freak Dungeons and Dragons Club, have been utterly discredited but they still hold all the reins of power and have no plans to relinquish their grasp on the government, multi-national corporations, and cultural institutions.We have become too lazy and accustomed to solitude to conceive of paying road taxes with a day's labor again. The "professional" cultural commissars have unleashed the most life-sapping programming through the altar of television, Reality TV. Our food is shipped in from all over the country to supermarkets. Rural people have sold their homes to developers of cookie-cutter sub-developments, and moved to Florida. The architectural triumph of the age, the Strip Mall, hurts the eyes and kills the spirit with corporate advertising being the only art we are allowed to see in public.Progressivism was just one long credit card binge, but it has wrecked our spirits.The Progressive’s response has been to fortify the spirit with Prozac, Valium and various other Soma competitors, but my counter-insurgency to the Brave New World is fueled by beer and whiskey.I drink to the day when it all comes crashing down and real America wakes up from this long nightmare and rejects the Progressive religion of the Dries, forcing kids to take Ritalin, stuffing their faces with McDonalds, and washing it down with a Pepsi as soft porn teenage blondes screech on Big Radio.It is faithful alcohol, for me Irish whiskey, or the fine local top fermented ales, that replenish my will to fight the bastards with every part of my soul. And so I drink, lest I resign to a fate worse than death, the fate of Progressive conformity.Charlie Bowen/JohnGalt left a life in the Boston Area technology economy and moved to rural Maine with wife, dog and locally brewed ale.Note: Permission to reproduce this article is granted provided that the article is reprinted in its entirety (including this notice) and proper credit is given to its author and LibertyForum.org.http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_culture&Number=292971149#Post292971149
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 21:04:36 PT

siege 
I know we have been goofing around and that helps us feel better but the world is in trouble and it will be a long time if ever that we see peace again. Many young men and women will be hurt or killed in the future by all that has happened. The draft will come back because it will have to come back. People aren't going to enlist knowing that war will be their destination. When we bombed Iraq it became too late to stop what will happen. That's honest and realistic. Maybe we can stop a full blown world war but I'm not even sure about that. We will need to find peace in the middle of it all. 
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:59:42 PT

Kap
I remember those signs and water fountains. As a child, I often wondered and puzzled over them. I couldn't understand it. It really bothered me and no one, at least in my family, ever talked about it...which made it all seem extraordinarily weird and creepy. If that could be changed, and thankfully, it was, then this prohibition can be changed, too.The antis for sure won't like it, but it's only right, and they will get used to it. There will still be cannabis 'racists' but they won't have so much power.

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Comment #50 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:53:20 PT

FoM, those cigars of his
They are blunts!
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:51:55 PT

Seige, Kaptinemo
This, the situation the world is in, is all so very serious. It can seem wrong to get kind of silly sometimes. Siege, your reminding us of the vets problems...well it's so serious, sad, and scary. I’m sure the pharmaceutical companies are just itching to “help” them. That’s scary and sad. Also if they do reinstate the draft, they will be drafting our daughters as well as our sons. It's all so hideous hard to comprehend. We live in a hard, cold, cruel world. You men and women that have been to war...and I know there are many of you...I realize you never get over it, you just learn to live with it. “Man's inhumanity to man” never ceases to appall me.Kaptin, I believe that “job security” of the antis is one of, if not the, greatest barrier to the end of the drug war that we have to overcome. That and pure, unmitigated hatred and hysterical fear.

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Comment #48 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 20:46:41 PT

Uncle Colombo Says
No dear Missy I must confess. Those cigars I smoke aren't just full of tobacco. Oh Uncle that is so cool!PS: He did add this. Don't take this wrong way dear niece but I think you've lost you mind! LOL!
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:32:53 PT

Missy turns to the other officers,
"Uncle Columbo says, "Don't worry." so, I for one, am not going to worry about it."Peter looked at her, "Uncle Columbo? Uncle Columbo? You're Uncle Columbo? I've always suspected he was one of "them"! Of course he's not worried. He's probably glad."Missy looked hurt. "My Uncle Columbo is not a pothead. He would never break the law. Not even if he had cancer."
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Comment #46 posted by kaptinemo on September 26, 2004 at 20:29:56 PT:

The flip side of 'job security'
Some fascinating ideas here...as usual.As I've said many times, being an old fart has some advantages, as having a long memory about pivotal historical events courtesy of living through such times can be handy.One thread of the novel has already been mentioned: how those most responsible for prosecuting prohibition would have their worlds turned upside down by it's relegalization. We are talking some major culture shock, along the lines suffered by cracker cops in the wake of the Civil Rights era. Just as many were diehards who couldn't get it into their thick skulls that they couldn't "whup up on da n***ers" for drinking out of "White's Only" water fountains, many will refuse - as some are with regards to MMJ - the new realites involved in relegalization. Pointing this cultural aspect of law enforcement out cuts to the heart of the essence of prohibition.But another is related: the extent to which corruption of police forces nationwide has become epidemic thanks to the temptation of illicit drug money. Recently, The American Movie Channel (AMC) has been running the 1970's era movie "Serpico" starring the always incandescent Al Pacino. When you compare what undercover narco cop Frank Serpico endured in his (apparantly quixotic) attempt to free the NYPD of seemingly endemic corruption with the Rampart Scandals and the myriad of other examples of police perfidy, it becomes obvious that not only has the situation maintained, it's *worsened*. Nothing's changed except the dates on calendars and the severity of the problem. This makes the matter of 'job security', take a bitter ironic twist, for it becomes obvious that the cop does indeed need the criminal, as the criminal needs the laws which make his enterprise so profitable, and in an indirect way, needs the cop. This should be written into the frame of the novel as well.
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Comment #45 posted by siege on September 26, 2004 at 20:26:37 PT

         # 17 E_J
E_J # 17 I think it was you that I upset the other day! I run out of the good Medicine and had to use WELLBUTRIN for about 15 days. its like "Dr. Jackle" und "Mr. Hyde".
here is a little of what you ask.
 Veterans Administration support the veterans coming home said Dr. Thomas Burke, an Army colonel head of mental health policy under the assistant secretary of defense for health affairs.
 Yes I have worked with mental health Dr.s at the V A trying to get medical marijuana approved by the likes of you Since 1967 when I came back from Vietnam. The Veterans of America nead the help of there Government AND alot just get run OFF, I have seen it happin to often with PTSD, now we have a lot of new veterans men and women suffering from symptoms of PTSD coming back. Mental Health Dr.s at the V A have been leting us  self-medicating and we can talk about it ,for years and they don't say anything bad about it.
The bad part of it will be the NEW homeless veterans on the streets the men where bad enough, now there will be young woman there allso this is a sad state of affairs for every one. and BUSH just CUT the V A's money and the number VA hospitals. the sad sob.
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 20:25:20 PT

Missy Still Is Fretting
She went back and forth and back and forth and didn't know how to help with any advice. Then she got an idea! She has an uncle that is a private detective. His name is Colombo. She quick called him and yelled HELP. He said as he flipped his cigar around in his mouth why sure Missy I'll see if I can give you some advice that will make at least you feel better. He said now Missy you know you are out of your league. She said I know Uncle Colombo. He said leave it up to the others to figure it out and live in your happy la la land and all will be well! She said Oh Thank You! Oh Thank You! You're the best uncle in the world. LOL!
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:18:30 PT

She's the one who takes care
of the drug test drawing each month. Strangely, neither she nor the Chief has had a pop drug test in years.
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:16:20 PT

Missy and the Chief!
Maybe they are our closet pot growers...right there in the LAPD. Since they both walked in to the room at the same time...they must have something going on.
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:13:36 PT

of course, bearing no relation to real people
these guys would be great characters...Sgt. Thomas Donegan and his boss, Supt. Phil Crane.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:11:53 PT

lol...Missy!
This is just too fun. It's bound to be against the law.
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Comment #39 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:10:45 PT

The door opened from the Chief's office.
They all turned to stare at him."It's true." Chief Waters said. He looked a million years old. Reynaldo Jenkins sat back in his chair, "I was going to buy a new Explorer next week. I already knew which one I wanted." The color had drained from his tan face.
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 20:05:40 PT

And in Comes Missy
She doesn't have the faintest idea what is going on! Missy is a nice girl but she only sees the world thru her rose colored glass. What's she to do now? LOL!
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 20:04:57 PT

Jenkins fell into his chair, 
almost tipping it over backwards. He jumped up again. "That ------ Montel Williams! I knew he was the beginning of something bad for us. I knew it!""Yeah," Peter said, "We should have busted his ass good when he admitted that pot smoking crap on TV! If we'd done that we probably wouldn't be in this mess now!""Oh my gosh!" (police don't say "oh my gosh" probably.)He was looking at the green colors of the CannabisNews site, "Oh my gosh!"They all gathered around the screen. "It's true," Jenkins breathed. "I can't believe it. It's true."
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:55:28 PT

Joe said,
"That can't be! That could never happen! We have job security! You know we do!"They all looked at him."We do, don't we?"
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:53:36 PT

lol!
"demonstrating in front of the White House"!Boy...there would indeed be a lot of hot cops and prohibs out there, or, I should say, "will be" instead of "would be"...when that scenario comes to pass. 
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:49:30 PT

We could have a truck driver
and Stick could make sure we got that stuff right. EJ...you could make sure the scientists were right...and we'd have to have a few scientists of one kind or another for sure. We could work in some horse show people, FoM.Scientists, government workers, horse people, truck drivers, activists, and growers...we could all build some pretty interesting characters that would be interesting to a wide range of people.The boyfriend...will he be shot, strangled, or knocked in the head?
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Comment #33 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 19:44:20 PT

Next...
Suddenly Peter Cahill runs in."We're boycotting the meeting. Pass the word around.""Why on Earth would we do something like that?" Reynaldo asked the older man, a veteran with almost twenty years under his ample belt."They're surrendering. Ending the war. We won't have it. We're all demonstrating in front of the White House instead.""Are you taking Paxil again?" Joe asked Peter, looking into his blue eyes. "You know that stuff makes you hallucinate!"Peter shot him an angry glare."I guess you don't read the Internet! Check out CNews, the potheads have won, and I'll be damned if I let them have this one without fighting back."

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Comment #32 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:41:27 PT

Julian
might be a good name for one of the men. What cities? What States? What countries? Hmmm. California is always a popular setting and lots of you are in California and can write knowledgably about the area. 
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:35:29 PT

"torrid online fling"
Wow, EJ! That could be interesting...but you or someone else will have to do the "torrid" writing. I'd be embarrassed...a problem I've always had with trying to write anything that might be interesting to people. I'm a great mystery fan though, so I could work on the investigation and murder. Making up murder wouldn't embarrass me...but "torrid" is probably not my forte.
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:28:28 PT

Lol, FoM
In reality, you would no doubt breathe easier, we all would, but we would all likely be burning up our keyboards posting with great joy and hallelujahs!
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Comment #29 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 19:25:01 PT

How about this
Two closet pot growers in some city somewhere have a torrid online fling, neither one aware that in the "real world" they know each other vaguely and don't get along.THEN someone they both know quite well, for example her ex-boyfriend or something, is murdered in his secret pot garden.So the couple has to deal with their complicated relationship and solve the murder before the police and an opportunistic local politician can use it as an excuse to wage a major crackdown on the cannabis community.The murder victim was an outspoken opponent of marijuana prohibition, with an enemies list including a string of vengeful ex-girlfriends, an old buddy who claims he was narked by the victim, extremist prohibitionists operating an Internet hit list, and some dirty ex-cops whose robberies of pot growers got them fired and almost jailed.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 19:14:00 PT

Hope 
You said: We all wake up Tuesday morning to find out that marijuana has finally been legalized for medical use and adult recreational use. The first thing I would do is take the biggest deep breath that I have taken in years. Then I'd probably take a nap and smile. No I wouldn't take a nap but I would smile. It is within our reach. 
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Comment #27 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:09:10 PT

Reynaldo asks,
“What time?”Joseph Dayton, Reynaldo’s partner, answered, “Nine o’clock, sharp.”“Don’t have a clue what it’s about?”“Nope. But, you know it’s important if we have to report to the Director.”“No doubt. Must be a major budget problem. Hope no one is going to get laid off.”

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Comment #26 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 19:02:22 PT

Reynaldo Jenkins
reports to work Tues, November 9, 2004."Reynaldo. Meeting in the director's office this morning.""What's it about?""Must be something important. Chief said to hold everything this morning and everyone report to the Director's office for important briefing."

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Comment #25 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 18:58:19 PT

Horror Story similar to Paraquat story of the 70's
This story and all the drug war stories are so crummy and so sad...maybe we can't bear to do it. Maybe we could imagine what marijuana legalization might mean. We all wake up Tuesday morning to find out that marijuana has finally been legalized for medical use and adult recreational use. We could follow the Narcotics officers on their effort to get used to the idea and what it might mean to regular folks across the nation, around the world.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 18:29:24 PT

Alias 
I'm still not sure how this will work but we are a cannabis related web site not one about coca. 
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Comment #23 posted by Alias on September 26, 2004 at 18:24:41 PT:

Horror Story
A NovelOnce upon a time there was a small farmer in South America. He grew a big garden to feed his family, had a few pigs and chickens. He also grew some coco plants for cash and cause he and his friends had always chewed a few leaves. The cash he got for his crop of coco was not alot. He used the money for his family, the kids always needed something, or bought tools for the farm.
One day a plane buzzed his farm, then returned and sprayed everything with herbicide. They were aiming for the coco plants but with wind drift and a pilot that really didn't give a sh_t, most of the farm got a dose of herbicide. Kids, chickens, pigs, garden, wife, all felt the spray. Some a little, some alot.
All this really made the farmer mad, but he calmed down enough to be practical. He knew the crops would die in a few days so he best get what he could harvested. Everyone worked. The pigs chickens and garden washed. Kids and wife washed. Clothes washed. And they prayed for rain to wash everything mostly the land.
The crop of coco was harvested quick like bunny and too early to be worth much, but the farmer had a grim smile cause he knew that herbicide would return to the country it came from. He knew different people would recieve the herbicide than sent it but it was the same country. After what had happened to his family and farm he didn't much care.
Disabled Ideas
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 17:51:32 PT

characters
Of course there would have to be "anti" characters or "prohibs". This could be interesting.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 17:49:52 PT

Thanks for the permission, FoM
First...that's a very good piece about the two Georges.About the "novel"...perhaps someone, perhaps EJ, could decide on the characters and assign a character to each of us and we could each provide the dialog for our character. That might be an interesting way to do it instead of a page each. I don't know. I think EJ has probably been thinking about story lines and plots since she's been thinking of a novel for quite a while. Of course there would have to be a sort of basic story idea and outline to work from.EJ, have you got any ideas that we might could all participate in?Certainly, we all are pretty good at research, so we ought to be able to be pretty accurate and knowledgeable in whatever directions the story might take us.It's certainly something to think about.

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Comment #20 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 16:05:10 PT

Hope
I don't mind at all. I'm not sure I understand but it sounds interesting. Over on the NY board I visit they had a thread called I think it was ' Let's Tell a Story ' but it had to be from NY song lyrics. I know that isn't exactly what you meant but that was a cool thread even though I never participated in it.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 15:39:56 PT

Off Topic Article
George W. Bush vs. George Soros: Who Will Be Redeemed?***Excerpt from Article:I inevitably started wondering what would happen if the competing Georges (Soros and Bush) were today unfortunately called up to meet Peter at the Pearly Gates; who would get the ticket to ride and who would be denied? George, the president, who set a record for the most executions by any United States governor during his stint in Texas?OrGeorge, the philanthropist, whose U.S. Justice Fund works toward eliminating excessive violence and punishment in the American court system?George, the president, who has abandoned or dissolved more U.S. treaties than any other American leader in U.S. history?OrGeorge, the philanthropist, whose English Language Programs have sent hundreds of native speakers abroad to help foster international understanding and communication?George, the president, who removed his country from the United Nations’ Human Rights commission?OrGeorge, the philanthropist, whose Human Rights and Governance Grants Program provides support to nongovernmental organizations working in the fields of human rights and governance in Europe and Central Asia?George, the president, who has imprisoned more sick people for growing and smoking medicinal marijuana than any other U.S. Commander-in-Chief?Complete Article: http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/blyler/george_bush_george_soros_redemption_926.htm
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Comment #18 posted by Hope on September 26, 2004 at 15:31:56 PT

E Johnson, a collaborative novel
A collaborative novel by the CNews gang has been an idea that keeps occurring to me ever since you began talking about the good idea of a novel based on the drug war. Perhaps we could give it a try like the game I used to play with my children when I couldn't think of a story to tell them at bedtime. You start the story and when you hit writer's block, someone else can pick up on it from there and on and on until we have a novel. I don't know if we could do it. It's likely not possible. It's hard to get that much cooperation going in a group. Maybe, with FoM's permission, we could start one in an obscure thread here. Starting with a one page Word format and someone else adding a one page section. I haven't got a clue what I would write. But...if someone else started it...inspiration might arrive. It could be interesting.

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Comment #17 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 14:38:55 PT

Maybe it's time...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133490,00.htmlHey maybe it's time to demand research into cannabis and post traumatic stress in vets.

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Comment #16 posted by goneposthole on September 26, 2004 at 14:13:31 PT

Vlad the Impaler
20,000 Turks were impaled by Vlad, a.k.a. Dracula. He invited some of them for dinner one evening and after they finished their meal, he nailed their heads to the floor. Vampires maybe aren't real, but Vlad gave it a valiant effort. 'Vampires, mummies and the Holy Ghost, these are the things that scare me the most.'- Jimmy BuffetDo you have acid reflux? Heartburn? Questions asked on internet advertising. Ridiculous? It truly is. Whenever I have a little heartburn, I drink some water. It works everytime. Heartburn is merely your stomach needing some water to help the digestion of its contents. I wish people would think.Of course, Jethro Bodine would move to Chicago just to accumulate those thousand dollar tickets so he could redeem them. lol 
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Comment #15 posted by ekim on September 26, 2004 at 13:49:09 PT

why no mention of why Hash Bash was created
Hey Paul Peterson take a bow. You been tellen us about this for a long time. 
 Just a note -- Ann Arbor MI. for the last 33 years has had a ticket law it started out at 5 bucks and now its up to a whopping 25 bucks. They have given out tens of thousands of tickets and kept the feared "brand " off those that were ticketed. While all over the rest of MI the poor souls got BRANDED, for that mater all over the USof A. Maybe WI has a ticket law. 
 Still why have no reports gotten out to the public. For years we have begged that someone do a paper on how it has saved countless thousands of drug records, and untold Millions in taxpayer money for LEOs and courts. 
http://www.aammi.org
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Comment #14 posted by global_warming on September 26, 2004 at 13:16:22 PT

re:vampire's
"Chicago police officers are wasting a lot of their time and the taxpayers' money on misdemeanor marijuana cases. That was the central point last week of a pitch made by police Sgt. Thomas Donegan to his boss, Supt. Phil Crane."This above statement is core to what the cannabists have been saying for 50 years.Maybe some people are starting to wake up and see the damage that "prohibition" and the "war on drugs" is causing to the fabric of our society and country.Regarding the "Vampire" theme, it is so true, not as fiction but as a distorted reality that we all live in today, yup right here in River City, you must be aware by now that "we the people" have been so over-regulated, over taxed, you can't even take a crap without some code enforcement power lusting asshole requesting the proper "permits" and payments, yes payments, whether in the form of bribery or permit fees, it boils down to the same bloodsucking system that has control of our lives.I would like to see a person like Oliver Stone make a movie about the drug war...--
Director praises Fidel,
blasts Bush in Spain
Oliver Stone says president 'will go down
in history as one of the great baddies'-------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: September 25, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
-------------------------------------------------------------------© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com Director Oliver Stone ripped President Bush while praising Cuban dictator Fidel Castro before the premiere of his movie "Looking for Fidel," at the 52nd San Sebastian Film Festival in Spain. Stone charged that Bush stole the election with the help of anti-Castro Cuban-Americans in Florida, according to a report in Cuba's Granma newspaper. "When (Vice President Al) Gore lost, or rather, when they stole the elections from him, I sensed that something dirty was going to happen, but the harm has already been done and its extent is very significant," said Stone. "Now, I am praying that something of that sort does not occur once again. George Bush will go down in history as one of the great baddies." A reporter asked: "What kind of power does the anti-Castro lobby in the United States have?" "To start with, anti-Castro groups were vital in implementing the dirty business of the butterfly ballots ensuring Bush's victory at the 2000 elections," said Stone. "The right wing is the same everywhere, in Cuba or Viet Nam. It is like an octopus, snatching everything with its tentacles. They control the Internet, radio and TV stations, and newspapers. But above all, they are perfectly organized. Right wingers master the art of negative publicity and are capable of destroying the image of anyone they consider to be their enemy. They annihilate anything opposed to their interests, utilizing mass emailing, articles, and reports. In the United States, censorship is the order of the day. It is really sad to think that Florida may end up deciding the November elections once again, and that the extreme-right wing, including anti-Castro groups, may manipulate the results for a second time. These people are blinded by patriotic fanaticism and are ready to invade any country, and shoot down planes if necessary. They thought that my first movie about Castro, 'Comandante,' was hideous, and they killed it almost before it was even born. They were merely afraid of it." Fidel Castro and Oliver Stone
 On the other hand, Stone had nothing but praise for Castro, who has clung to authoritarian power with no elections in Cuba for half a century. "Street demonstrations in favor of Fidel Castro are not a fake," claimed Stone. "If they were, those demonstrators should win an Oscar for best acting. I can testify to this because I have seen the joy on their faces when people come up to the president." Stone also said: "President Bush has set the world on fire." "In Cuba, I observed an openness and freedom that I had not found in any other country in the region, the Caribbean or Central America," Stone said. "I have met many world leaders in Panama, El Salvador, and Nicaragua, but have never seen the kind of spontaneous affection for a leader expressed on the streets as I have seen in Cuba towards Fidel." A journalist asked Stone if the scenes of popular expressions for Castro in his movie were staged. "They were totally spontaneous," said Stone. "We have visited several hospitals where they could have been expecting us, but having looked at people’s faces, I know that none of this was a fake. I have directed actors and I know when people are pretending and when they are not. Castro repeatedly asked me where I wanted to go next, and wherever we went, people would spontaneously come up to him. Where else in the world would this happen?" Stone was effusive in his praise for Castro. "I admire Fidel because he is a survivor," he said. "He has survived several U.S. presidents who have tried to eliminate him.” He also said he admired Castro because of "his self confidence and honesty." The filmmaker confirmed that Castro "is one of the few world presidents who does not have one cent stashed abroad, and, at the same time, has brought his people to such a high educational level." And what's the state of the USA in this presidential election year? "My country is becoming more violent and negative every day," he said. "Bush has never been interested in consensus. In the year 2000, as we have unfortunately come to learn, a dangerous radical with a huge hidden agenda was hiding behind the mask of a compassionate conservative. This is a shame and a tragedy. The world would be completely different today had Bush not stolen the elections from Gore. Bush is only adding more fuel to the fire. He is a slave and the puppet of the large weapons and oil companies which put him into office." 
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Resisting the Vampires
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Comment #13 posted by Truth on September 26, 2004 at 13:10:35 PT

me either
: )
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 13:02:00 PT

Truth
I know that's true. I have no doubts about it.
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Comment #11 posted by Truth on September 26, 2004 at 12:54:52 PT

more..
As I think you know...It was his body that ended, not him, he is still with you and even doing what he can to help. If you feel a spiritual guidance my guess is it would be his.
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Comment #10 posted by Truth on September 26, 2004 at 12:52:34 PT

He was and IS
His spirital energy isn't gone, he still "IS"That was a fun and hard hitting movie and your advice is most excellent.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 12:32:10 PT

Truth
He was a fine young man. Thank you. I know I get people upset and that is never what I want to do. This thought came to my mind. There was a movie with Patrick Swayze years ago and it was called Roadhouse. He was a bouncer at a bar. This one scene always sticks in my mind. He was telling other bouncers how to act. Swayze said: Be nice, always be nice UNTIL it's time to not be nice anymore. I always try and keep learning day by day. Have a great day.
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Comment #8 posted by Truth on September 26, 2004 at 12:16:48 PT

to: FoM
Martha,I feel in my heart,as kind as you are,your son is a fine young man.Thanks for your great work.So much love....
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Comment #7 posted by DeVoHawk on September 26, 2004 at 11:21:54 PT

E_J
You made it quite clear you were talking about science fiction.I play through many scenarios in my head as to why cannabis is illegal and it is funny that you touched upon one of them, ET's(vampires) and the War on Drugs being run by a secret cult and cannabis is the undiscovered tool to fight back. I am not trying to claim my statements as fact or fiction only a thought.The Vampires I speak of are those who make money off prohibition and they are real.
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Comment #6 posted by afterburner on September 26, 2004 at 10:55:20 PT

As the Election Gets Closer, ...
the 'Choir' Is Being Heard. Many have pointed out how the ideas discussed here in relatively safe anonymity are showing up with increasing frequency in the news stories, op-eds, letters to the editor, and even in television shows, like Montel William's Medical Marijuana [sic] special. Keep up the good fight. Resist the 'evil' of lies, distortions, and vindictiveness that masquerade as *government*.
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Comment #5 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 10:31:48 PT

It's science fiction
I hope people realize I am talking about fiction not reality. :-) Sometimes fiction provides a way to describe reality that gets to the point better than nonfiction.The vampires have to convince humans to eradicate cannabis for them, because they can't go near it themselves, and if they used their military might to do the job from outer space, the human race would be on to them right away.
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Comment #4 posted by DeVoHawk on September 26, 2004 at 10:13:57 PT

Marijuana Prohibitin = Control
I think Cannabis prohibition is about money and control. E_J, your idea about vampires makes more sense that cannabis being illegal. I have often thought that ET's long ago informed government officials that people who enjoy cannabis for long periods of time can not be brain washed and easily controlled. Cannabis is the only thing keeping fascism from over taking the world.Cannabis users want peace and to help those who are sick and suffering.Prohibitionist want to kick down doors, throw people in jail, and take away voting rights, jobs, benefits, children and many other sick sad punishments for those who display signs of not being controlled by the overlords.Vampires are definitely at work in Prohibition be they terrestrial or extraterrestrial!

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Comment #3 posted by FoM on September 26, 2004 at 09:46:07 PT

Marijuana Prohibition = Money
Everyone needs money to live but using this medicinal plant for financial gain is getting really out of hand. Money is not a god. People are important and society needs to stop trying to make this issue one that is centered all around how Cannabis can benefit a city, town or state because of money. Police need to find something else to chase in this modern time of world wide terrorism. 
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Comment #2 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 09:41:17 PT

The premise
Cannabinoids have anti-vampire properties. Humans, in our primitive state of development, have not discovered this yet. People from a planet that was taken over by a vampire disease have managed to wipe out cannabinoid producing plant life all over the galaxy, except on Earth. The vampires have come to eradicate cannabis on Earth, so that the whole galaxy can be made to go the vampire way.The two main heroes can be a medical pot grower and her scientist boy friend.How about that?
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Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on September 26, 2004 at 09:24:12 PT

Vampires
Someone should write a science fiction story where a pot grower discovers that the War on Drugs is actually being run by a secret cult of blood sucking vampires from another planet.Maybe we could do it together. A collaborative work.
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