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  Bush Targets Marijuana Smokers 

Posted by CN Staff on July 24, 2004 at 22:17:10 PT
By Richard Luscombe in Miami 
Source: Observer UK 

New super-strength marijuana readily available on US streets is prompting the White House to change direction in its war against drugs. Research from the government-sponsored Marijuana Potency Project claims today's cannabis is more than twice as strong as in the mid-Eighties, leading to greater health risks for those smoking it at increasingly younger ages. Now President George Bush, who had already promised a more aggressive campaign against substance abuse, has ordered that resources be allocated to fighting so-called 'soft' drugs instead of concentrating on harder forms, such as heroin and cocaine.
'We are working hard on education, but unfortunately a lot of today's parents are under the impression marijuana is harmless and that their kids trying it is some kind of rite of passage,' said Jennifer de Vallance, of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. 'They might have had experience in their own teenage years with no problems, but this is not the same marijuana as in the Sixties, Seventies and Eighties. Today's forms are much stronger and potentially more harmful, especially to young people whose brains are not fully developed and are therefore more susceptible to adverse reactions.' The Marijuana Potency Project, at the University of Mississippi, analysed more than 30,000 samples seized over the past 18 years by the authorities. It found that the average level of the active ingredient in marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), jumped from 3.5 per cent in 1985 to more than 7 per cent in 2003. Of more concern to the analysts is that the upward trend appears to be continuing. The average potency of 20 marijuana samples seized and tested so far this year exceeds 9 per cent, with a peak of 27 per cent in one batch from a state in the North West. 'Today's marijuana is a much more serious problem than the vast majority of Americans understands,' said John Walters, the government's director of drug control policy who has promised a clampdown on producers. Those who support the legalisation of cannabis are not convinced. 'Whenever government officials speak about drugs issues, a more detailed examination of the facts is a good idea,' said David Borden, executive director of the Washington-based Drug Reform Coordination Network. 'These projects are always government-funded and, without criticising the researchers, officials take what they want from it and send out their press releases. There has always been a wide range of potencies. It doesn't mean people are getting more intoxicated, because the higher the potency, the less they smoke.' Figures suggest overall drug use in America's high schools has fallen by 11 per cent in two years but the National Centre on Addiction and Substance Abuse reports the number of children and teenagers receiving treatment for marijuana abuse jumped 142 per cent over the last decade, and that emergency hospital admissions of 12 to 17-year-olds in which marijuana was implicated rose 48 per cent in four years. Borden acknowledges children must be steered away from drugs, but says: 'Their anti-drugs efforts have had a paradoxical effect in promoting the underground cultivation of marijuana. The number of users makes it an appealing target and there is no limit to the number of arrests that can be made, and the government uses those numbers to scare the public into thinking there is some big problem. 'All the government has been able to do is encourage people to experiment with stronger drugs than they would have before.' Newshawk: cloud7 Source: Observer, The (UK)Author: Richard Luscombe in MiamiPublished: Sunday, July 25, 2004Copyright: 2004 The ObserverContact: letters observer.co.ukWebsite: http://www.observer.co.uk/Related Articles & Web Site:DRCNethttp://www.drcnet.org/U.S. Drug Czar Warns of Potent Pot Herehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19209.shtmlAs Pot Gets Stronger, US Officials Change Policyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19203.shtml 

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Comment #45 posted by mayan on July 27, 2004 at 17:05:30 PT
Inside Job
What The 9/11 Commission Report Ignores: The CIA-Al Qaeda Connection
http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=7/27/2004&Cat=4&Num=020
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Comment #44 posted by unkat27 on July 26, 2004 at 20:41:17 PT
Who's Evil?
Check out this link for some of the real reasons why Al Qaeda and OBL are so anti-American. This article contains words by OBL pertaining to bad US foreign policy that were completely suppressed in the US Mainstream Media.'The Path of Evil' by Kim Petersen
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July2004/Petersen0724.htmExcerpt: 'Bin Laden's grievances about the injustices perpetrated against Arabs and Muslims by the US and Israel were already in the public realm. It is irrefutable that US and Israeli Zionists are carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against Palestinians. Former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright even infamously admitted in a television interview that the destruction of hundreds-of-thousands of Arab children was a worthy price in achieving American objectives in Iraq. So bin Laden's stated grievances were public and also corroborated by US and Israeli officials. It is a verifiable fact, that the US and Britain have stripped away the freedoms of Arabs, whether directly, through Israel, or by the complicity of backing Arab despots.'As for Hunter Thompson, as cool a relic of the 60s generation he is, he and many other less cynical yuppies, artists and musicians, were forced into a position of shut up and take the money or get out (of US) by the totalitarian feds of the Reagan and Bush regime of the 80s, and whether they like it or not, they couldn't do much about it because they didn't have the guns. Now, those characters sit in their mansions and try to forget the awful wrong turn their country took when the drug war was escalated in the 80s. I doubt they have much say over Saudi relations either, if you get my drift.
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Comment #43 posted by breeze on July 26, 2004 at 19:35:07 PT
Sukoi
Thanks for your praise, I wrote that one a few months back.
I am going to write another one soon that delivers the message a little quicker, one that really pulls the reader to a better understanding of what the wod is doing, and going to do, to parents of children who are in their teens or are going to be in the next few years.If we follow the propaganda closely enough, and watch HOW the wod's is fought in the programs that advertise on television/radio, the wods is all about marijuana- while in fact the trend that is going to come about soon is heroin. Heroin is going to be the next "big" drug culture seller, as the poppy fields in the region where we are fighting the war had a record harvest this year.It wasn't that long ago the ecstacy was the fashion drug, not marijuana- and there were very few media ads about it. Misplaced anger, misplaced tactics, misplaced awareness leads to destruction- and IF the leaders were "THAT" concerned for the youth of our nation, they would address the issue with something that truly was efective in protection- attacking a herb that is not addictive, not deadly, not destructive is not the way to handle the issue that is over the horizon. Most dealers now days prefer to deal in small substances that can be easily concealed, easily disposed of- such as crack, heroin, cocaine- has a very addictive nature (repeat customers) and has a dollar value worth more than gold per ounce . Cannabis doesn't fit that bill, and so it is getting harder to find cannabis - it is much easier to find an addictive drug. Another issue that needs to be addressed is how people who claim that the marijuana of today is stronger than that of years past. While I know this propaganda to be false, it is clear that if it were stronger, the person would not have to smoke as much to achieve a compfort level- unlike having to spend more money to reach the same level of compfort. With addictive drugs, the drive is there to FEED an addiction, not to reach a compfort level- but to cease a drive produced within the body chemical system.Now- consider this, if marijuana is no longer the drug of choice and the WOD succeeded in keeping all marijuana away from those who would use it recreationally, and people want something to give them a high, hallucinations, whatever effects the mind differently than alcohol- they will seek out what ever is available- even if it is to fit in with the "in" crowd, teens are going to do what they are going to do due to peer pressure, others because they want to escape this world if not just for a little while, some just because, face it- getting "phucked up" is fun. The propaganda machine tries to make people believe that being high is not fun- well, IF I am going to be honest and hold myself out to be honest to the public at large, then I have to be honest about everything I know, and state that I see people at all sorts of events getting drunk, and they are most often doing it because it is fun. Kids see this, and they think to themselves, gee- mom and dad was wrong- getting drunk looks like a lot of fun to me- I will try it when I can. But, parents frequently lie to their children, and because lying is sometimes fun as well- SANTA CLAUS, easter bunny, I love you- think about it.
Deception is a standard practice in todays society- but not ONE damn governmental agency is striving to stop this rampandt addiction to spreading stringent mistruths, lies, and false fronts. Honesty has become something of the past, and before long- a myth in its entirety- people decive one another on a given basis- sales people do it all the time, for a commission, the government does it to cover up things that would essentially cause mass chaos, if not that severe- then it is to cover their own ass and allow them to remain in power, or seek power.But what about people who need this medication called cannabis- if people were honest about it, "let them suffer" has become a fashionable attitude, and in their suffering- we can sell them a legal concoction created right here in our laboratory- because we paid for it to be legal. Honesty once again ceased to matter, someone is getting paid to lie. The democratic convention is so heavily guarded not because of all of the important people in MASS, but because of all of the important liars there. If any one believes that this group of people cares about the welfare of the citizens of these united states, they are effectively decieved. Sure I want bush out of office- I never wanted him IN office, but to be honest- I don't see kerry as that much of an improvement. What I do know about him, I dont like- he hasn't addressed the issue of compassionate cannabis networks, he hasn't addressed the issue of affordable healthcare for all Americans, he hasn't addressed the issue of prison overcrowding, he hasn't attacked the patriot act, he hasn't declared review of civil liberties- he hasn't addressed issues I find very close to heart. If you haven't been involved in a confrontation with law enforcement, consider yourself lucky- every single one I have met has a manner about them that reflects their belief in their system- that you are sub-human. In my past, when I did need a police officer- and there should have been one close by, there wasn't. People crave control of others, they crave power, they desire to dominate- and this is mirrored by the actions of everyone in politics, law enforcement, the military, buisness, families. People cannot be content to live and let live- but rather the opposite. And that mood is apparently contageous. If you cannot buy someone, hold something over their head that makes them sink to the knees, or threaten them with harm (be it physical, financial, emotional) then you have to seek a different method to gain control of that power. Begging doesn't help, it shows a sign of desperation- on occasion a false hope is given- but that is all it is. The only way cannabis will ever be legal in this nation is when people DEMAND that the laws change en masse- until then, its all contradiction, bias, and stupidity that remains the service of the day. I can say I didn't vote for gore last time, because of something his wife did to offend me years before he ever became vice president. I did not forget her name, and it eventually came to hurt him- some people I know absolutely HATED bush- but they were damned to see his wife as first lady because of when she tried to censor musicians creativity back in the eighties. By kerry not even addressing the issue of prohibition, it shows that his fulfillment in the area of compassion is lacking- I will likely vote kerry just to oust bush- but it shouldn't be this way, our country wasn't founded this mentality, and it will NOT last if this mentality continues- but you have to look at the source of infection- look at what bush did to achieve this level of mistrust- look at how many people are still FOR him being in power and you will see clearly how easily people are misled. The last few post's here have been about how M.Moore's film depicted a prince, and how bush was portrayed as he was. Realize that the film had an effect on people, be it positive in its revelation, or negative in how some innocent bystanders were portrayed- realize this first before you throw stones- that this "prince" is still alive, there are 900 + Americans that aren't coming home to their families, and I have yet to notice anything in the news about a libel suit against M.Moore for his fabrication of fact. Think about how many more people are behind bars because of the lack of people standing up for the truth, demanding the facts, and ignoring truth. If you wish to have cannabis DEcriminalized, you have to change the mindset of the majority- who are frequently in denial and are basically complacent to remain there. The part of society has never used marijuana, and from they have been told about it, they never would. They have no idea what it is, what it looks like, how it effects people, and frankly- they don't care. I was of this mindset throughout my years in high school, and so I speak of this perception from my own experience. But, there was an event that changed my perception forever, and it wasn't trying the herb for the first time that did it. I reached a point where I had enough being told one thing, only to discover the truth of another. I had seen preference of one individual because of their family name/social standing over another whose ability was far superior. It was then that I decided to start examining things for myself instead of believing what the system/people had told me to believe. I was devastated at what I discovered- one thing that was A GIANT mistruth, was what I fed to believe about marijuana. I thought there must be other mistruths- and along the way, I have discovered many. But by tolerance of deception in society, I have also met misery head on and experienced things that most "normal" citizens do not. No need to elaborate, but it showed me that due to GROSS ignorance on so many levels in my community, our society, my country- that there are people who revel in anothers suffering, while clamouring for the approval of others, and often times, they get it. Power has shifted once again from what is right, from what is proper and true- to admonishment of interfeering with these liars. Adoration for those who harm others sickens me, but it is done so frequently with such popularity it seems the desire of the many. Television is a major industry, because people ENJOY watching television shows where people are injured, in trouble with law enforcment, conflicts of interest. I guess if there is no conflict its simply boring. But people subconciously seek out a little adventure of their own after seeing programs such as these, and MORE laws make for a better oppurtunity to create such chaos in anothers persons life. As the news industry puts it, if it bleeds it leads...but if a person doesn't want to go that far, they can always spread rumour and innuendo- pursuit of the soap oprea that makes anarchy seem tame. So, to come to a conclusion, how should we present ideas to the public that are in favor of our understanding/knowledge? Simple, communication is key. Or we can simply stand back and let someone else do it for us, hope they get it right, and let others make the descicions for us. The entire community of cannabis users need to group together and spread the message of what harm is being delivered via the perceptions of a few, but that will never happen because many in the cannabis community have never even thought of standing up for what is right, true and proper- even if it is to their own benefit. Look at the bullshii that enviromentalists recieve- and they are trying to make the world a better place to live by reducing pollution, saving habitats, and keep the corporations from destroying rainforests and trees that have stood for hundreds of years- the enviromentalists should be front row in addressing the issue of using cannabis as an alternative for so many things, but where are they? Silent except to their own desires, not realizing that by DEMANDING improvement as a unified group we could accomplish so much more than the bureacrats will ever accomplish on their own. Has kerry sent someone to your door to ask you what you find in need of change? No, he even ignores what is presented to him via his own website- and he is, in the end, a typical politician. This is where society has failed itself, and we can all conform or leave it to its own self prescribed destruction. Or we can seek to make a difference and tell the people the reason and method for change. But then again, why bother? No one has helped me make a difference where I live, I have only been persecutted, critiscized, and abused. I know eventually the realization of what is done/ not done to stop the maddness of the WOD now will effect the many- too bad though, their children and grandchildren will be burned out addicts of something far worse than prescription meds, heroin, and alcohol. I almost HAVE to laugh. If people KNOW there is a chance that their children is going to use drugs (alcohol,cigarettes included) it seems to me that they would be for legislation to block this, instead of making it easier for them to get ahold of something that REALLY destroys lives- stupidity.   
  
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Comment #42 posted by Nuevo Mexican on July 26, 2004 at 14:18:25 PT
E.J.: Bush is Al Qaeda, and we're the fools!
What are you trying to say, this is ridiculous!You don't get it do you, the Saudi Gov pulls OUR strings.
The have BILLIONS to bribe bush with, and have for years!
Aren't you paying attention. Stop reading Ann Rand and start reading Mumia, please get your history right, as you are extremely intelligent, but mis-informed. Please rewatch the movie until you get it, you might have to read a little between the lines.E.J.s' post:
If the current Saudi government is seen by the people as being too controlled by America, it could be overthrown and replaced by one controlled by the type of people in Al Qaeda. 
And that would be worse for us than not getting all the information we want about terrorists who are already dead.(WHAT!!! We had the info BEFORE 9-11, and bush knew! Duh!Where have you been, please go to whatreallyhappened.com so we can talk.7 of the supposed terrorists are still alive, in case you aren't on the internet! Whats up with that!)To me the important part of the film was about Iraq. He did that part really well, I think.(Glad you liked that part, but the WHOLE film was pure genius, like bush reading for seven minutes after he knew we were being attacked, to me, it revealed that he knew in advance and was caught like a deer in the headlights. God has a way of revealing the truth.)From the link below:What does the word "Al-Qaeda" mean ? In Arabic, "Al-Qaeda" has a different meanings, among them “Base", "Ground", "Norm", "Rule", "Fundament", "Grammar". The exact meaning is dependent on the context in which it is used. It depends on the word which follows “Al-Qaeda” in the sentence. "Qawa'ad Askaria" is an Army Base, "Qawa'ad Lugha" stands for Grammar Rules (the Bases of Grammar)."Qa'ada" is the infinitive of the verb "to sit". "Ma-Qa'ad" is a chair. "Al-Qaeda" is the base or fundament of something. "Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa'ada” which mean “to sit”, pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”. In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: “Al-Qaeda” also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or “Arab toilet” which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda". 'Al-Qaeda' is a Manufactured Intelligence Front' http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/062504manufacturedfront.htmAs I was saying, bushes desired goal is to create a Us/Them mentality in the world, so he can have his 'war on terra' from now through eternity. Military contractors, Haliburton,
Oil profits, The Project for the New American Century, complete control through global world domination, kinda like the Soviets were accused of, but I guess the Russians and the Chinese aren't as ambitious, as 'Red blooded Americans, whatever that means!
Please read up, and get your head out of the mashed potatoes!4 years before 9/11, plan was sethttp://www.pnac.info/blog/archives/000012.htmlE.J.: (don't get mad at me please), I thought you knew your Russian/Afghani history? I know you do. Who formed Al queda? The cIA. Go to the link.
 
Ann Richards, and Madeline Albright LIBERALS, c'mon!
You must be a conservative to make these statements. 
According to the 'librul' media (yuck, yuck), these are liberals, only to make real liberals look WAAAAAy left, like Michael 'mainstream' Moore. Don't buy it, and Bandar is not a liberal, as he is from Saudi Arabia, where beheadings ARE allowed, regardless of their religious violations. Theology is just a technique to control the Arab/Muslim masses, the same approach bush has used on 'muricans'. (bushblab)Glad you saw the movie, though, too bad you could only find something wrong with it, as I knew you would. 
But you did see it!!Moore is a hero, and when you do something as important as make a movie like Farhenheit 9-11, and hits the 100 million mark, then I will feel the same way about you. Til then....Time to Medicate/educate....Al Qaeda's originsRohan Pearce Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was originally not a terrorist organisation but as part of the ragtag group of warlords and Islamic religious fanatics trained and funded under the auspices of the CIA to fight against the left-wing, secular government of the Peoples Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA), after it came to power in 1978. Up to US$20 billion of US funding was channelled to the right-wing mujaheddin. From 1986, the CIA began aiding Pakistan's Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence in recruiting Islamic fundamentalists from around the world to train in camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan and fight against the Soviet-backed PDPA government. http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2004/578/578p12d.htm
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Comment #41 posted by kaptinemo on July 26, 2004 at 08:30:58 PT:
Another take on this lates bit of insanity
It comes from LastOneSpeaks. According to her, part of the reason that this is happening may be that the Bush Cabal has awakened to the political danger of what millions of p***ed off cannabists might do by voting Dem. So of course, by making this latest move, they're going to p*** them off that much more. How typically Bush. Bush's NeoCons have this pathological fear and loathing of anything that smacks of 1960's rebelliousness, and cannabis is perceived by them as one of the last remaining symbols (in their calcified minds) of that era. The horse is dead, but the NeoCons won't stop whipping it until it's bits and pieces dribbling into the gutter, they're so insanely fixated on their need to erase a historical period. One that only they are concerned about anymore.
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Comment #40 posted by darwin on July 26, 2004 at 07:41:36 PT
Unrelated (NFL, Ricky Williams, and pot)
I don't know how many people here watch football, but even if you don't this was an interesting news item this weekend.This was in the Miami Herald:"This isn't about any money dispute or leverage or the recent headlines involving his marijuana use. It's about outgrowing games . Williams' conviction has grown into clarity in recent weeks. He kept finding examples for why he should do this everywhere he looked -- backstage with Kravitz and Snoop Dogg, while befriending homeless people in Australia, on Jamaican beaches with Bob Marley's carefree kids.''The people in Jamaica, living in these little tin shacks, they were the happiest people I've ever seen,'' Williams said. ``This is an opportunity to be a real role model. Everyone wants freedom. Human beings aren't supposed to be controlled and told what to do. They're supposed to be given direction and a path. Don't tell me what I can and can't do. Please.''Society and the NFL say he can't smoke marijuana, for example, and that's one of the many rules of his confining workplace he will no longer abide. He says without apology he has gotten around NFL drug tests with a special liquid players all over the league consume by the gallon before tests to avoid detection. He says he simply didn't drink it before getting busted in 2002, and that he still hasn't heard on his appeal of a second failed test, but that the recent marijuana issues have nothing to do with his decision to retire beyond confirming how stifling celebrity can be and how ill-fitting the NFL is for him."The next Mark Stepnoski?
Damn near everyone in the NFL smokes and it's fun to see them step out of the closet and be proud of it, as opposed to just hearing about failed tests and suspensions.
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Comment #39 posted by kaptinemo on July 26, 2004 at 06:01:32 PT:
Unrelated but disturbing
This came by way of LastOneSpeaks http://lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/ (Head's-up courtesy of courtesy of DrugWarRant   http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/ )http://lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/2004_07_18_lastonespeaks_archive.html#109069724411353347The DoJ is demanding that all copies of a previously publicly available manual on civil forfeiture by the DoJ be destroyed. The book burners are at it again; you have to wonder what bug is in their ear about this, except that it is a treasure trove for defense attorneys... 
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Comment #38 posted by sukoi on July 26, 2004 at 05:53:13 PT
breeze
Thanks for the info. I have seen the one from NORML before and it has some great info. for someone who may be in that situation. I really like the one that you created as it gets straight to the heart of the matter!
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Comment #37 posted by Kegan on July 26, 2004 at 04:32:10 PT
Pot Prices Drop In BC
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040726.wdope26/BNStory/National/
 
Tight border a low note for the high trade
 
Canadian Press 
 Kelowna, B.C. — The price of B.C. bud is plunging as the United States tightens its border and more growers try to cash in on the green gold. 
Marijuana supplies in B.C. are outstripping demand, forcing the price of bulk sales down. A pound of pot grown in the province fetched $2,200 to $2,600 two years ago, says RCMP Corporal Ray Patelle of the E Division's drug section. Now, the price has dropped to as low as $1,500. "There's a glut in the B.C. market," Cpl. Patelle said. "There's still just as much demand in the U.S. for this product, but there's so much pot in B.C., the price is down." Pot smugglers have been curtailed by extra security at the border since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in 2001. In some places, U.S. border patrols have tripled in number. American authorities seized 295 loads of marijuana from smugglers entering from B.C. last year, said Mike Milne, spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection. The seizures totalled 9,286 kilograms, a 23-per-cent increase from the year before. Border officials now have machines that use X-ray technology to detect anomalies inside loads hauled by large transport trucks — a popular way to smuggle the contraband. Inconsistencies in density lead to searches that often turn up marijuana shipments. The drop in price is likely affecting the province's economy. Assuming the traffickers use their profits to buy their goods in B.C., the province could be losing millions of dollars a year in sales tax. "We get reports of people being caught all the time smuggling pot into the U.S. and bringing money back into Canada," said Cpl. Patelle. The amount of pot detected moving south from Canada has increased since 2,000 to almost 15,700 kilograms last year. But more than 20 times that amount was seized at the U.S.-Mexican border in 2003. Still, the RCMP consider the export of marijuana to the U.S., particularly from B.C., Ontario and Quebec, to be a thriving industry. Cpl. Patelle estimates thousands of grow operations are operating in the Okanagan, 700 to 900 of them in the Kelowna area alone. 
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Comment #36 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 26, 2004 at 02:33:34 PT
Bandar may be a great guy, but...
... when he gets more people guarding him than we have on the entire Oregon (was it Oregon?) border, something is screwy.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on July 25, 2004 at 23:03:52 PT
I Understand
I really do understand EJ. I don't think I feel any differently now that I've seen the movie but I'm glad I did and will buy it so I can watch it more then just the one time. The picture of the children waving and one flying a kite and then the bombs and the dead and burned children really got to me. I love children. They're all innocent to me and it's so unfair.
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Comment #34 posted by E_Johnson on July 25, 2004 at 22:54:25 PT
The problem is FoM
If the current Saudi government is seen by the people as being too controlled by America, it could be overthrown and replaced by one controlled by the type of people in Al Qaeda. And that would be worse for us than not getting all the information we want about terrorists who are already dead.To me the important part of the film was about Iraq. He did that part really well, I think.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on July 25, 2004 at 22:44:21 PT
EJ I Will Need To See It Again
I honestly didn't think much about the visit except it wasn't timed well by Bush considering what had just happened on 9-11. The overall connection to Saudi Arabia did bother me but not the one person. I mind that we haven't been able to find out more about some of the highjackers that were from Saudi Arabia. They seem very closed to us with information and that concerns me. I could be missing something though. 
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Comment #32 posted by E_Johnson on July 25, 2004 at 22:21:42 PT
Think of the statement he is making FoM
The Aspen Institute board has very powerful and respected liberal women members.Queen Noor, Ann Richards, Madeleine Albright, Elaine Pagels.
This goes very much against traditional Saudi culture. Bandar's association with this group is like a signal that he wants to liberalize his own society.He is setting an example by his behavior, one that Bin Laden must really hate very much.Bin Laden wants a world where there are no women allowed in leadership organizations with men.I wonde if Michael Moore knew Bandar is a liberal and deliberately hid that fact or if he just negelected to look into him very much.Bandar seems to be sort of like Musharraf, wanting to tick the mullahs off by doing things in public the mullahs are against.
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Comment #31 posted by E_Johnson on July 25, 2004 at 21:50:15 PT
Check this out
http://www.aspeninstitute.org/index.asp?bid=1221Bandar is on the Board of Trustees of the Aspen Institute. A fellow board member is Ann Richards, former Democratic governor of Texas. Another one is Queen Noor of Jordan.These are the anti-extremists of the world.Bandar seems to be involved with the good guys. I was rather shocked that Moore tried to make him out to be such a sinister guy.I hope people will know now -- he's not a scary guy at all.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on July 25, 2004 at 21:48:22 PT

EJ That's Interesting
We saw the movie last night and both my husband and I were bothered by different parts of it. I liked the movie but I wasn't really surprised so that must mean we are hard to shock anymore.
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Comment #29 posted by E_Johnson on July 25, 2004 at 21:39:07 PT

This is what I mean
http://www.aspeninstitute.org/index.aspTheir conference center in Aspen is named after Prince Bandar because he is a big donor.Osama Bin Laden's philosphy is very opposed to the kind of causes that Bandar gives his money to in Aspen.I think Michael Moore misled people about Bandar, making him seem like some sinister extremist character because of his "links" to Bin Laden.The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was an atrocity, and that atrocity brought together a lot of very different forces to fight it, and the fact that these different people are linked through their response to that event does not mean that they are linked in every other way that Moore wants us to imagine.He's a good film maker, but he appeals more to fear than to reason at times, in many ways like the people he is criticizing.
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Comment #28 posted by E_Johnson on July 25, 2004 at 21:31:15 PT

I just saw Farenheit 9/11
It was pretty good, the mom at the end had a big effect on me.What I thought was shady was his bashing of Prince Bandar. He's not a sinister guy as far as I know. He's a liberal who gives a lot of money to the Aspen Institute and lives in Aspen.Aspen -- where Hunter Thompson once ran for sheriff, where Jack Nicholson has two homes, where Don Henley from the Eagles lives.He gives a lot of money to very liberal organizations. It's hard for me to see him as this sinister Bush supporter. He is the ambassador -- talking to the President is his job.I think his treatment of Prince Bandar was bordering on racist.I think the rest of the movie was good.
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Comment #27 posted by breeze on July 25, 2004 at 20:16:37 PT

The card hand out-
well- I write a number of things from time to time, but this one at the moment is from NORML- 
Fits on a 4" x 3" card quite nicely and reads as follows;Side one (outside)The NORML Foundation Freedom CardThe US Constitution prohibits the government from interfering with
your right to remain silent, to consult with an attorney and to be
free from unreasonable searches and seizures by law enforcement.
However, it up to YOU to assert these rights. This NORML Foundation
Freedom Card will help you do so effectively.If you are confronted by a police officer, remain calm. Be courteous 
and provide your identification. Politely refuse to answer any further 
questions. Ask to talk to an attorney. Do NOT consent to any search of
 your person, your property, your residence, your vehicle. Tell the 
officer you would like to give him or her this card, which is a statement
of the constitutional rights you wish to invoke. Do not reach for this
card until you have obtained the oficer's permission to do so.Inside (side 2 and 3)I hereby invoke and refuse to wave all of the following rights and
 priveleges afforded to me by the U.S. Constitution:
*I invoke and refuse to wave my FIFTH Ammendment right to remain silent. Do not ask me any questions.
*I invoke and refuse to waive my SIXTH Ammendment right to an 
attorney of my choice. Do not ask me any questions without my attorney present.
*I invoke and refuse to wave all priveleges and rights pursuant 
to the case Miranda v. Arizona. Do not ask me any questions or
make any comments to me about this descision.* I invoke and refuse to waive my Fourth Ammendment right to be
free from unreasonable searches and seizures. I do not consent to 
any search or seizure of myself, my home, or of any property in my 
possession. Do not ask me about my ownership interest in any
 property. I do not consent this contact with you. If I am not
presently under arrest or under investigatory detention, please allow 
me to leave.
*Any statement I make, or alleged consent I give, in response
to your questions is hereby made under protest and under duress and 
in submission to your claim of lawful authority to force me to provide
you with information.side 4 (outside of folded paper)If the officer fails to honor your rights, remain calm and polite, 
ask for the officer's identifying information and ask him or her
to note your objection in the report. Do not attempt to physically resist an unlawful arrest, search or seizure. If
necessary, you may point out the violations to a judge at a 
later time.The NORML FOUNDATION
1600 K Street, N.W., Suite 501
Washington D.C. 20006-2832
202-483-5500Below this is inserted the web address of my local norml chapter if the person is interested in supporting NORML and its causes.After handing a person this card, I always say the following- YOU know someone who is going to need this card someday- past it along.And damn if my words aren't usually prophetic- I wish I had access this card on several occasions previous to what I know now. If a cop stops you- just clam it up- ask for a lawyer and cooperate politely, but say nothing more than is ABSOLUTELY required, I have yet been able to talk my way out of a situation in the past ten years (including speeding tix)and I look like a cop.The next one is more agressive to our goals for legalization that I wrote myself- fits on a 4.5 X 4.5 piece of paper- printed at home.-----------------------------------------------------
As a person who believes in liberty, life, the pursuit
 of happiness and freedom, I am handing you this piece
 of paper to inform you of something that you 
may/maybe not be aware of. The laws currently on the
 books make a plant that grows wild and unattended by human hands illegal.
The cost of enforcing these laws and imprisoning people who consume, possess, manufacture, and sell this plant
is well into the billions each year.
This means that Billions of YOUR tax dollars spent each year, go to prohibiting YOUR friends, relatives, or aquaintances from pursuing their freedoms of choice, liberty, and hapiness. Your taxes pay for the enforcement of these laws, and while the police enforce these laws, they are in effect allowing a rapist, murderer, stalker, pedophile or terrorist escape their attention. Instead of politicians doing the common sense thing; ie. decriminalizing marijuana and taxing it, they elect to prohibit use of the herb and force you to pay the bill. 
The tax revenue generated from the regulated sale of marijuana could be used to build/maintain highways, build schools, improve education, lower the cost of healthcare, and even reduce taxes that you spend each year. But it is up to YOU to insist that these politicians make such changes. Since 1935 ONE TRILLION DOLLARS has been spent in efforts to enforcing prohibition of marijuana alone. You have been misinformed of the danger of marijuana, and politicians wish for you stay misinformed. Marijuana is a plant, not a drug. Drugs are manufactured in laboratories, not capable of being grown wild or in vegetable gardens. Marijuana has never killed anyone because of its use- alcohol and cigarettes have, and they remain LEGAL.If you wish to know more- contact your local NORML chapter, If you do NOT wish to know more, be sure to contact your elected officials and thank them personally for raising your taxes, making drugs easier for children to obtain, and creating jobs for various black-market/oragnized crime organizations also known as "terrorists."Remember: The laws against marijuana are based on lies.------------------------------------------------------ Feel free to modify this as you wish- hand it out to whom ever you persue, maybe sooner or later we can accomplish something to wake up the sheep-le in this country. You don't have to be in a group, or holding a sign to hand another person a piece of paper and ask them to read it for their own welfare. 
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Comment #26 posted by kaptinemo on July 25, 2004 at 19:09:18 PT:

They're doing our work for us
By giving the antis all these chances to look foolish, especially in light of the valid criticisms made here and elsewhere, we are only inviting them to hasten a foregone process.After all, how can they appear to be even the slightest bit rational when their own change of focus to cannabis over the hard stuff simply invites attack? Hint: It's not cannabists that are found in dark alleys, slack-jawed dead, covered in sores, with half-burned joints in their mouths. It's not cannabists all wired up and robbing the local 7-11 for funds for their next bowl. Yet they will become the new focus? THE main 'threat'? Worthy of billions MORE wasted dollars?Like I said before, things are getting weird in DEALand when this is seen as being 'progress'. Like the Chong incident, this makes sense only in the arcane and insular thinking of a DrugWarrior, and NOWHERE else.
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Comment #25 posted by unkat27 on July 25, 2004 at 17:55:41 PT

Crack is a Far Worse Problem
Everywhere I've lived in the past ten years, I've seen less marijuana and more crack-cocaine. Dealers actually like crack more than mj because it is easier and cheaper to produce, easier to smuggle, conceal, and dispose of, and once it catches on, it is also much easier to sell, because it is much, much more addictive than marijuana. Crack-cocaine is also far more destructive to humans than mj. I have seen it destroy many people and I haven't seen mj destroy anyone.The feds are morons for treating mj as a danger. If it were legalized, and made more accessible, crack-cocaine wouldn't be half the problem it is today. But it is becoming more and more obvious that the feds don't really care, as long as it doesn't destroy them or members of their own fat families.
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Comment #24 posted by Virgil on July 25, 2004 at 16:20:19 PT

Preaching to the ignorant
There is the old strategy of demonizing cannabis as if it somehow justifies the treason and ruin that comes with imposing a blanket of prohibition over all realities and ideals.What is funny from the cannabis wonk point of view is that they are done in by what is truly a miracle plant that needs full service to the cause of humanity. Demonizing cannabis to a wonk is like telling an 18 year-old man that Britney Spears is ugly.The effect of this always looking at the plant and arguing small points overlooks the fact that any plan involving harm reduction would call for Free Cannabis For Everyone. The truth is out there about cannabis, but the voice that says to look at the harms of prohibition is drowned out. The demonizing of Miracleplant in this article would not even use the word prohibition, which is the main issue before us. 
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Comment #23 posted by sukoi on July 25, 2004 at 15:08:59 PT

breeze
"Every time I go into town, out on the streets, or just to the gas station- I see someone who could be informed and make a difference in the war against the war against drugs- call it recruiting, I simply hand them a card, and say you know someone who will be able to use this and simply walk away-"What is on the card that you hand out?
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Comment #22 posted by global_warming on July 25, 2004 at 14:46:43 PT

AMEN Breeze
"Christians by my own personal experience are some of the most hypocritical people in the universe, and I was in the church three times a week for 18 years, and I have known some of the most hateful people imaginable, not the image preferred - its not the self labeled title, its the person."I would send you a nail, with two choices, would you use that nail to build a house or would you use that nail to inflict pain and suffering?The point of this nail is that it can further penetrate the flesh of Jesus, or can be re-directed towards ourselves, so that we might better realize the full potential of our reality, this splendour that God hathe wrought.This universe is awesome, the stars and planets that are being born and ageing into stellar dust, are queitly released into further mysteries that follow the path of the "creator's" plan.We each have choices, and for such a small amount of time, we, must decide the path that we will take, ..Hail the day, when we can explore our potentials, as creatures that have been born with a trusted understanding that "life" is truly precious and the gift of the mysterious unkown God.Most of us on this forum share the same goals, to free Cannabis, to free life on this planet, to share in the understanding, that "we" share space on this planet, that we are brothers and sisters in the universal awakening that reveals our places in Gods plan.Let us pray, and let us waken, to our heritage that is ours in this magnificent universe..Love-gw
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Comment #21 posted by freedom23 on July 25, 2004 at 14:43:19 PT

Bush is mentally ill.
He is. To spend more effort on marijuana prohibition than heroin and cocaine is nuts. Marijuana is the "pot of gold" to goverments if they'd just legalize and tax it. It could pay for schools, homeland security, etc. Can't they see this? Are they blind to the millions of people that have smoked it without any ill effects? It's insanity kids, plain and simple.As a former "drug warrior" (USCG - MLE, mid '80s) I am ashamed of myself and what I did for my Govt. If there's a God I will surely be condemned for my actions. All I can do now is beg for forgiveness and work for change.
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Comment #20 posted by Robbie on July 25, 2004 at 13:17:54 PT

I was going to read this article, but....
"New super-strength marijuana readily available on US streets..."and thought better of it. Hey! Where is this super-strength stuff?
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Comment #19 posted by breeze on July 25, 2004 at 12:42:33 PT

What can be done to get the message out?
It seems that it is going to be up to a majority of people who want Bush out to get bush out. But this remains to be a futile act of resistance, as there are still so many more people who trust Kerry equally as much as bush- in other words, they AINT gonna vote 'cause one evil is just as bad as the other.So, you need to litterally scare people into seeing what is happening. But it is not easy, and its not much fun, it takes a while to inform people of the facts- especially when they dont care about what happens to others, or even themselves- and even then, will the people see the light and actually vote on election day? Not only this, bush is leading in several electoral states.Funny how he is focusing on cannabis- and forgoing the battle against hard drugs- especially when this years opium and poppy harvest was a record breaker! Heroin is making a strong come back- does any nation need a population addicted to a drug, legal or not, that kills and or destroys human livelihood? Bush thinks so apparently.How many of you have handed someone a card that informs them of anything to do with cannabis? Every time I go into town, out on the streets, or just to the gas station- I see someone who could be informed and make a difference in the war against the war against drugs- call it recruiting, I simply hand them a card, and say you know someone who will be able to use this and simply walk away- if they read it and pass it on, goal accomplished, if they just through it away- well, they weren't worth the time- but MOST of the time it goes right into the pocket and off to another person- I choose who I hand it too rather carefully. There are so many other things in this nation that our current leaders should be dealing with other than cannabis, and the lies about how powerful the stuff is now- but it is obviously a smoke screen, no pun intended. There is an agenda that I have preached for the last ten years to turn this country into a police state- no conspiracy about it, it was true and still is. Bush has made a great advance with his effort to pass the patriot acts- and the 911 book has fueled it even more so by affecting area's that delve deeper into realms the public has little knowledge of. Kerry needs to address the erosion of liberty, rights, and freedom- but it has yet to happen, and november is not that far away- so many still see him as just a carbon print out of bush, which very well may be true since he has neglected to state otherwise.As far as christians go, bush has a majority in his back pocket- he recently had an aid request membership lists from several churches (catholic and baptist) so that these people could be contacted and asked to vote for bush- on a one on one basis. That is a tactic that DOES sway voters, make 'em feel special!Christians by my own personal experience are some of the most hypocritical people in the universe, and I was in the church three times a week for 18 years, and I have known some of the most hateful people imaginable, not the image preferred - its not the self labeled title, its the person.When religion gets involved in politics, what you get is a system of governing that rules with the same extreme as the crusades, the salem witch trials, and a new thing that it has evolved into- non-compassionate, greedy, selfish people who view themselves as better than others in the illusion that "my morality" is better than yours- even as they break the very commandments that their god told them not to. Love is the answer to all things, but its not practiced any more- just look around you. If you feel loved by many, then you are truly fortunate and may view my words as incorrect, but you should examine the facts a little more closely- look at all of the lonely people, the down trodden, the people who have no home, no family, no friends, no money. I live in a small town, and a VERY christian town at that- yet I know maybe seven people by name, does this sound christian to you? Does this sound like the christians are good hearted, loving , caring, friendly people? I smile and say hello, usually I get a frown and a grunt, or snubbed by the mercede's driving crowd. Christians can just go to...HAVE a NICE day... 
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on July 25, 2004 at 12:38:47 PT

kapt
I agree with you and it's depressing to me. I am so removed from hard drugs and they seem to tangle us up as far as cannabis laws are concerned. I'm almost at a point that I hate to read anything concerning hard and deadly drugs. Time to start back on my SJW! The drug war will fall apart when cannabis prohibition ends. I believe that with all my heart. 
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Comment #17 posted by kaptinemo on July 25, 2004 at 12:23:10 PT:

The problem is typically American
Namely, short-sightedness. The inability, politically, to look 2, 3, Five...or even 10 or 20 years down the road.What I am worried about with regards to cannabis is quite simply this: policies have inertia. Bad policies have exceptionally strong inertia, and are even more difficult to overcome.The Bush Cabal is about to initiate a bad policy. The kind of bad policy that is maintained by an incoming Administration out of sheer habit, ignorance, apathy or even covert profit. Remember, friends, all during the Klinton Regime the number of cannabis arrests, already increased by the Busch 1 Regime (Reagan never counted,) climbed higher and higher, but Billy Boy opined at the end of his reign that he thought it had been decriminalized!That kind of 'under-the-radar' issue has a tendency to get worse and worse due to a lack of public debate, and those who benefit most notably from it like it that way.But one thing has become crystal clear: The DrugWarriors have just made their real targets known. They have no real concern about the effects of heroin or cocaine on society at large, as they know the number of addicts has almost always been small and relatively stable. They also know that their efforts to interdict the more potent and easily transported drugs have been an unmitigated disaster. Heroin and cocaine purity, quantity and price have been rising, rising and falling, respectively. The only drug they stand a chance of making any political capital out of is the one which is most easily interdicted and most publicly identified: weed. Which makes up the majority of their hauls. And thus the majority of their reason for existence.I keep thinking of the HitlerBunker in the days just before the Allies won. The people around Hitler knew he was totally off his rocker, but could say and do nothing lest they be denounced as defeatists and shot. While Hitler made all kinds of fantasy plans of attack for divisions that had been destroyed. While Sov artillery shells landing overhead made the dust from the ceilings fall on the maps.The efforts of drug law reformers are like those artillery shells, depositing reality upon the DrugWarrior plan of attack. We've been winning so much lately, the soldiers in the DrugWarBunker have turned to fantasy plans like this. Their desperation is a sign of our success. If we can just hold out with no martial law, the next Administration may be forced to see reason.Maybe...but I don't trust people who claim to be public servants but who keep mum about their memberships in decidely UNdemocratic organizations...whose members all too often gain at the public's expense.
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Comment #16 posted by Max Flowers on July 25, 2004 at 11:21:20 PT

Regarding the Bush-missing link subject
Don't forget to check out bushorchimp.com which contains some compelling evidence for this theory...
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Comment #15 posted by goneposthole on July 25, 2004 at 11:07:46 PT

regardless
The Bush cabal can't last forever. Neocons will enter the dustbin of history in a very short period of time and will be forgotten. Never to return again.  Who in their right mind wants them around? ... not Justin Raimondo... not Ron Paul... nobody wants to see the likes of the neocons except for themselves. Megalomania mania for them.  They're not a picture postcard.  Nothing to write home about. 
Somehow, someday, someway, they'll all be gone.  You can chase your tail for only so long. That will never happen to cannabis.
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Comment #14 posted by dididadadidit on July 25, 2004 at 10:03:51 PT

Bush Cabal Does NOT Bode Well
Indeed, the possibilities of martial law imposed by these thugs is truly alarming. We need to see a four steps cleared over the next 6 months before I'll take another easy breath.1. We need to see the elections come off on November 2nd, (Nov 9th for Repugnicans, after the Dem vote is counted so as to know how many votes are needed whereever to counteract and win Repig seats) without partial or full delay or shutdown.2. We need to have sufficiently motivated discontent with the Bush Cabal to honestly win.3. We need the vote honestly counted (good luck) to reflect the Kerry win (to say nothing of congressional seats and control).4. If having got through the above 3 steps, we finally need to see the Cabal LEAVE January 20th without some BS
coup ensconscing themselves in power indefinitely, due to the emergency fabricated to facilitate the coup.Heaven help us if any of the above 4 steps are subverted along the way and the thugs attempt to illegally maintain their power (which even with only 40% support could still well supply enough willing "brownshirts" to pull it off).Kerry said it months ago thinking he was off mic when saying, "These guys are the worst group of liars and thieves I've ever seen. It's really scary."It IS really scary. Kerry's scared? My paranoia looks more and more like reality based fear.Cheers?
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Comment #13 posted by kaptinemo on July 25, 2004 at 09:02:34 PT:

This may actually be good news
But in an obscure way: Maybe, like a mortally wounded animal lashing out in all directions, we're seeing the last gasp of hysterics from Bush & Company before their removal. Knowing their time is up, they're lashing out at those elements of society they hate the most.When Tricky Dick was on his way out, he became increasingly irrational, to the point Kissinger gave orders that no Presidential order was to be carried out if it didn't go through 'Super K's' office first. Nixon even had an enemies list. After Carter got in, the country swung somewhat Left in orientation, we had the Church Committee which went into the amazingly weird plots and plans of the intelligence agencies, and also their role in Nixon's White House. These and a general disgust with the way government trampled civil liberties under the rubric of 'national security', led to more transparency in government...and only incidentally towards more rational drug laws - until the first wave of NeoCons invaded and had their point man Ronnie Ray-gun plant their flag in the White House. It's been hell ever since.The problem we face today is that the US is far closer to martial law than we were in Tricky Dick's time. The Bush Cabal is making dangerously anti-Constitutional decrees that implies that they will be around after the election to see them through. That does not bode well at all.
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Comment #12 posted by kaptinemo on July 25, 2004 at 08:41:13 PT:

A "Marijuana Potency Project"?
Hmmm...run by the same folks who have done everything in their power from doing any testing with regards to cannabis therapeutics. They must have spent upwards of a million or more of the taxpayer's dollars on this 'study'. Given how many times Uncle has 'cried wolf' on just about every drug issue, this bit of information goes directly into the mental 'round file', along with the "Pot makes men grow boobs" crap.Doesn't Uncle have better things to waste our money on than this?
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Comment #11 posted by goneposthole on July 25, 2004 at 06:53:27 PT

wrong
I wish I had 'mid-eighties pot' again. It was by far and away stronger than the current batches of 'sensimilla' that I obtain today.Pot prices are much higher today than in 1985, and the pot isn't as good as it was back then. These folks doing the reporting or supporting the ONDCP position haven't a clue.They know how to make fools of themselves, though. That's about it.
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Comment #10 posted by Jose Melendez on July 25, 2004 at 06:28:30 PT

Cause and effect:
Effect: "Today's forms are much stronger and potentially more harmful . . . "Cause:'Because smugglers need to pack as much of their illicit substances into as small a space as possible, the black market pushes people to use higher, and therefore more dangerous, dosage levels. Just as Prohibition promoted a transition from safe low-dosage alcohol (beer) to high dosage alcohol (whiskey) of unpredictable safety, drug prohibition has promoted a transition from low-dosage coca (coca tea or the original Coca-Cola) to powdered cocaine to crack. Because marijuana is bulky and aromatic, it is easy to detect and therefore to seize. This drives up the black market price of marijuana relative to that of cocaine and heroin, creating an economic incentive for more people to use "hard" drugs over "soft" drugs.'From: "How to Legalize Drugs" edited by Professor Jefferson M. Fish, printed by Jason Aronson, Inc. Publishershttp://aronson.comJefferson M. Fish, Ph.D., is Professor of Psychology at St. John's University, where he has served as Department Chair and also as Director of the Ph.D. Program in Clinical Psychology. He is also a past Chair of the Psychology Section of the New York Academy of Sciences and past President of the Division of Academic Psychology of the New York State Psychological Association, as well as a member of the Board of Directors of Partnership for Responsible Drug Information. Dr. Fish is co-editor of Psychology, Perspectives and Practice , and author of Placebo Therapy and Culture and Therapy: An Integrative Approach . He has written over seventy journal articles and book chapters. - - -I had the honor of interviewing Dr. Fish for my documentary, "Drug War IS Crime"You can see a RealPlayer version of a portion of that interview at: http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-2830.html - Jose Melendez,founder, RxPot.comhttp://RxPot.com
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Comment #9 posted by LoneStarWarrior on July 25, 2004 at 06:09:15 PT

Cannabis smokers (and everyone else) target Bush.

 " When Bush targets cannabis smokers is that the same as the far Christian right attacking cannabis smokers ? " I don't think so,the far Christian right,doesn't believe in smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol either." As an obedient Christian, I know only disobedient Christians support harming humans that use cannabis. " Well daggum..I reckon that I'm one of them thar' obedient Christians..it ain't up to us Christians,to decide which seed-bearing plant is good or not good..don't ya reckon ? Have a good one..LoneStarWarrior 
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Comment #8 posted by Sam Adams on July 25, 2004 at 06:08:58 PT

subtle difference
Look at the headline...you'll never see it in the US media. Marijuana arrests being directed tied to the president.MJ arrested SOARED under Clinton - yet the media told us he was the friendly, stoner sax-player.Every year that I live George Orwell seems like more and more of a genius.
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Comment #7 posted by sukoi on July 25, 2004 at 05:16:33 PT

I guess that Bush is ignoring the 9/11 Comission
Drugs and Terrorism? Highlights from The 9/11 Commission ReportThe 9/11 Commission Report, released yesterday, is a disturbing and voluminous account of the strategies employed by Al Qaeda and the U.S. government in the months and years preceding the horrible tragedies of Sept. 11, 2001.While the report spreads blame for the attacks around various U.S. government agencies and both the Clinton and Bush II administrations, the report makes clear two things of particular interest to the drug-policy reform community:1) Time, money and vital resources that the government should be spending to counter terrorism have instead been spent pursuing drug sellers and users.2) There is no link between Al Qaeda and drug trafficking.All told, the 568-page report makes just eleven references to drugs (not including footnotes.) Below, I quote all eleven drug references, their page number (in parentheses), and offer my comments on a few: The rest is here: http://blog.drugpolicy.org/2004/07/drugs-and-terrorism-highlights-from.html

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Comment #6 posted by siege on July 25, 2004 at 04:39:21 PT

govt.'s standards
This 27 per cent must be one of the govt.'s Hi Breeds, that no one every sees. University of Mississippi would you please send the people these seed so we can bring ours up to govt.'s standards. Because the best i have is about 17 per cent and i have worked hard to get it. Jennifer de Vallance, of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. adverse reactions.' especially to young people brains!! Has any one died of THC--- NO, they become couch locked or go to sleep. This is one way to stay off the bozos So witch is better for them, YOU would say the bozos because it is legal.
government officials, WHO IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT (( O NORTH )) in drug sales. the ones that yell the louses or the ones that don't vote or the ones that don't say any thing. or have I missed and they are getting paid off ( it's the same.) 
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Comment #5 posted by The GCW on July 25, 2004 at 04:35:37 PT

Armstrong?
Armstrong, finally a Texan that makes Me proud to be an American.

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Comment #4 posted by billos on July 25, 2004 at 04:13:24 PT

Not Surprised..........
SCIENCE DECLARES BUSH AS “MISSING LINK” - DARWIN TURNS IN GRAVEThe science world declared that it’s finally found the controversial “Missing Link”.
Professor Reuben Von Beurin, a philanthropist from Oxford University, claims he noticed something particular about Bush’s face the first time he observed him on the telly.“I could see that there was an extremely familiar resemblance between Bush and many of the earlier primates I’ve studied all my life. It’s hard to describe but the one main thing that separates us from the apes is our facial bone construction. Of all the specimens ever examined in the past, scientists felt they needed this one feature, found in apes, to link us to evolution”.“We have put together the ‘chain’ of evolution. However, human remains found that followed the Neanderthals have always lacked this feature. Therefore we saw no evidence that we evolved directly from the Neanderthals. 
Bush has this feature. This ‘link’ can now be established. Bush has the last subtle piece of evidence in his features. It has the nuance of how evolution works; slowly.Genealogists have tried in vain to trace the Bush family tree.
“Now we know why the branch that split in the year 1212 leads to a toaster”. It baffled us for years.
“Darwin must be rolling in his grave”, said Beurin. This is a huge discovery.
Beurin claims he knew of this years ago but was afraid to reveal it due to pressure from the Bush Administration.“This is all blasphemy to the Bush family because this proves there is no god,” Beurin said.
I suspected Bush Sr. for a while but always wound up mesmerized by the amount of crap he spewed, you know, no new taxes and such. I always got side-tracked. 
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Comment #3 posted by The GCW on July 25, 2004 at 03:48:31 PT

Cannabis smokers (and everyone else) target Bush.
Some people would rather buy regular outdoor grown types of cannabis costing about 1 / 3 the price of the skunk types but the government has made it difficult to grow cannabis outside. The effort to exterminate cannabis meets resistance and so the cannabis grown is strong.Still no reason for caging people that use cannabis.How do You know the truth?If You know Bush lives in darkness, then listen to what the bush says; then You know the truth is the opposite of what it says.For the truth listen for the spirit of truth not the spirit of error.The guy sitting in the president’s seat is more dangerous than any cannabis. When Bush targets cannabis smokers is that the same as the far Christian right attacking cannabis smokers?THE MORAL MAJORITY IS NEITHER.As an obedient Christian, I know only disobedient Christians support harming humans that use cannabis.Cannabis exposes disobedient Christians.The Green Collar Worker

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Comment #2 posted by b4daylight on July 24, 2004 at 23:34:51 PT

here
where is the study which makes pot harmful enough to lock thousands of people behind bars, spend billions of dollars not fight terroists, Forcing people to take piss test, and taking hemp hostage so it cannot create an economy. Pot as dangerous as the goernment? Government is more dangerous than pot. 
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Comment #1 posted by Virgil on July 24, 2004 at 22:49:13 PT

Got hash?
How about hash oil?
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