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Marijuana Grower Hurries To Replant After Raid
Posted by CN Staff on May 29, 2004 at 10:38:39 PT
By Sarah Hunsberger
Source: Oregonian
A medical marijuana group was pushing Friday to replant its crop after Clackamas County Sheriff's Office investigators seized more than 100 plants in a greenhouse raid earlier this week near Woodburn.   Shawn Flury of Oregon Green Cross said he is collecting plants from other medical marijuana groups around the state and will get new plants in the ground as quickly as possible.
He said the group serves about 35 patients who depend on a free ounce of marijuana twice a month to ease their ailments. However, sheriff's officials say they seized the 110 plants from the group's rented greenhouse on South Elliott Prairie Road because the operation lacked the documentation needed to grow that many plants. There have been other raids of people suspected of violating the state's medical marijuana law, but this week's raid involved an unusually large number of plants, officials said. Flury insists he had the documents that show the seized plants were legal. He thinks a paperwork backlog prevented police from verifying the records with the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program, which registers growers and issues medical marijuana cards to patients. Oregon's 5-year-old medical marijuana law allows people with "debilitating medical conditions" to grow no more than seven plants at a time with a doctor's endorsement. Only three of the seven can be mature plants. Cardholders must register the growing site with the state. Cardholders also can designate a caregiver to grow marijuana for them. The rules allow 30 working days after a grower takes over a cardholder's plants before the state must be notified. So even if there's nothing in the state's files on the day of a police raid, a large collection of plants can turn out to be legal if the paperwork comes in later. Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/replant.htmSource: Oregonian, The (Portland, OR)Author: Sarah HunsbergerPublished: Saturday, May 29, 2004Copyright: 2004 The OregonianContact: letters news.oregonian.comWebsite: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/Green Cross Patient Co-ophttp://www.hemp.net/greencross/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml 
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on June 02, 2004 at 18:51:21 PT
Related Article from Oregon Live
Drug Arrest Stirs Question Wednesday, June 02, 2004Sarah HunsbergerA Clackamas County drug arrest last week will give the district attorney's office its first chance to interpret how hashish should be treated under the state's medical marijuana law.   
 David Thomas Howard, 50, who holds a state medical marijuana card, was arrested May 25 after investigators found hashish, a potent extract of marijuana, in his belongings. The discovery came during the seizure of more than 100 marijuana plants at a Woodburn-area greenhouse. Investigators interpreted the state's medical marijuana law to bar possession of hashish, said Deputy Angela Brandenburg, a Clackamas County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman. Medical marijuana advocates, including grower Shawn Flury of Oregon Green Cross, which ran the Woodburn greenhouse, insist the law allows hashish. "This is one of those that's kind of an interpretation," said Lt. Craig Durbin, who heads the Oregon State Police drug unit. The law defines usable marijuana as the dried leaves and flowers of the cannabis plant or "any mixture or preparation thereof." Steven Griffin, a Clackamas County deputy district attorney, said he hadn't seen the details of Howard's case and didn't know whether it would be prosecuted. In general, Griffin's research shows that hashish and marijuana are the same thing, and it's his opinion that hashish likely is allowed for medical use. http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/108617793625180.xml
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on May 30, 2004 at 09:40:38 PT
Thank You for the Lyrics and Understanding
dididadadidit and afterburner I really appreciate the comments and words. We are listening to this song now. I love music that says something. I avoid music that is generally just angry music. I love music that speaks to me. This is one my husband heard years ago and just loves it being a Vietnam Vet and all.http://www.steveearle.net/lyrics/ly-coppe.php#copperheadroad
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Comment #10 posted by dididadadidit on May 30, 2004 at 09:02:45 PT
Also Fitting in Here Is Kansas' "Dust in the Wind&
Dust in the Wind.
I close my eyes only for a moment and the moment's gone.
All my dreams pass before my eyes in curiosity.Dust in the wind.
All they are is dust in the wind.Same old song.
Just a drop of water in an endless sea.
All we do crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see.Dust in the wind.
All we are is dust in the wind.Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky.
It slips away and all your money won't another minute buy.Dust in the wind.
All we are is dust in the wind.Dust in the wind.
Everything is dust in the wind. 
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Comment #9 posted by afterburner on May 30, 2004 at 06:07:19 PT
Simon and Garfunkel Are Favorites of Mine, Too
One of their best albums is : WEDNESDAY MORNlNG, 3 A.M.'YOU CAN TELL THE WORLD 2:43
LAST NIGHT I HAD THE STRANGEST DREAM 2.08
BLEEKER STREET 2:43
SPARROW 2:47
BENEDICTUS 2:49
THE SOUND OF SILENCE 3:04
HE WAS MY BROTHER 2:46
PEGGY-O 2:23
GO TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN 2:03
THE SUN IS BURNING 2:46
THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN' 2:50
WEDNESDAY MORNING, 3 A.M. 2:13' http://freespace.virgin.net/r.kent/lyrics/wednesday.morning.3.amI particularly like the tenderness of Sparrow and the irony of The Sun Is Burning.Sparrow' Who will love a little Sparrow?
 Who's traveled far and cries for rest?
 "Not I," said the Oak Tree,
 "I won't share my branches with
 no sparrow's nest,
 And my blanket of leaves won't warm
 her cold breast." ' Who will love a little Sparrow
 And who will speak a kindly word?
 "Not I," said the Swan,
 "The entire idea is utterly absurd,
 I'd be laughed at and scorned if the
 other Swans heard."' Who will take pity in his heart,
 And who will feed a starving sparrow?
 "Not I," said the Golden Wheat,
 "I would if I could but I cannot I know,
 I need all my grain to prosper and grow."' Who will love a little Sparrow?
 Will no one write her eulogy?
 "I will," said the Earth,
 "For all I've created returns unto me,
 From dust were ye made and dust ye shall be." 'The Sun Is Burning' The sun is burning in the sky
 Strands of clouds go slowly drifting by
 In the park the lazy breeze
 Are joining in the flowers, among the trees
 And the sun burns in the sky' Now the sun is in the West
 Little kids go home to take their rest
 And the couples in the park
 Are holdin' hands and waitin' for the dark
 And the sun is in the West' Now the sun is sinking low
 Children playin' know it's time to go
 High above a spot appears
 A little blossom blooms and then draws near
 And the sun is sinking low' Now the sun has come to Earth
 Shrouded in a mushroom cloud of death
 Death comes in a blinding flash
 Of hellish heat and leaves a smear of ash
 And the sun has come to Earth' Now the sun has disappeared
 All is darkness, anger, pain and fear
 Twisted, sightless wrecks of men
 Go groping on their knees and cry in pain
 And the sun has disappeared 'We miss songs like these because they speak a truth which is being denied us by the managed media that wishes to control our thoughts, feelings, lives, and even the plants of nature. "This note's for you."
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on May 29, 2004 at 20:29:36 PT
afterburner 
Who are the plant police. That's a good guestion. Nature and all her glory leaves me awe struck. I am deeply humbled by our earth. I'm not impressed by pretty buildings. They're just man made objects and we know rust never sleeps. The music that says something I don't believe is played often on the radio. I watched Simon and Garfunkel's Concert in Central Park. Their music is just plain good. We are denied music that can be inspiring. I guess I think I like certain music because I'm older but it could be because it isn't played for people to hear. These are some words from Steve Earles one song called Ashes To Ashes. I'm sure this song was played around 9-11 because I heard it once or twice but that's all until we got the cd. Here are the words.Now, nobody lives forever Nothin' stands the test of time Oh, you heard 'em say "never say never" But it's always best to keep it in mind That every tower ever built tumbles No matter how strong, no matter how tall Someday even great walls will crumble And every idol ever raised falls And someday even man's best laid plans Will lie twisted and covered in rust When we've done all that we can but it slipped through our hands And it's ashes to ashes and dust to dust 
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Comment #7 posted by afterburner on May 29, 2004 at 19:39:37 PT
Managed Media Have Been Going on for a Long Time
Look at the censorship of the radio through playlists. I just saw Bound for Glory again, the biographical movie of Woody Guthrie. Can't have those folk singers upsetting the pickers with those union-organizing songs.I also took a long walk today through farm country. As I walked past fields teeming with God's trees, herbs and plants, I thought to myself, who are the plant police? Unbelievable pettiness of the FDA, HHS, NIDA, DEA, ONDCP, and all those helicopter jockeys and storm troopers! 
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on May 29, 2004 at 16:32:34 PT
global_warming 
That's really OK. There was a good deal of news when the article was released. It's easy to miss some of them. Ann really is a good writer. 
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Comment #5 posted by global_warming on May 29, 2004 at 16:27:45 PT
Ooops Old news
Sorry...
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on May 29, 2004 at 16:17:01 PT
global_warming 
That is a good article. She's a good writer. http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18821.shtml
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Comment #3 posted by global_warming on May 29, 2004 at 15:40:19 PT
Good Article Virgil
	
Counting the Costs of the Drug War
	
	
posted by j1o2n3a4s5 on Monday May 10 2004   08:56AM PDT
	
	
The costs of the war in Iraq can be measured daily in deaths, injuries and decreasing support for U.S. policies. But how do you measure the costs of America's other war – the war on drugs?Each year, the U.S. government spends more than $30 billion on the drug war and arrests more than 1.5 million people on drug-related charges. More than 318,000 people are now behind bars in the U.S. for drug violations. This is more than the total number of people incarcerated for all crimes in the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined.At a May 6 forum sponsored by the Independent Institute, an Oakland, California, think tank, analysts tried to quantify the real costs of drug war. Have these efforts actually deterred drug abuse or reduced crime? Boston University economist Jeffrey A. Miron, who spoke at the forum, applied an economic analysis to determine whether drug prohibition is a more effective public policy than legalization – which would tax and regulate drugs. Miron, author of the new book Drug War Crimes, says the true costs of prohibition should be measured not just by the billions of dollars spent for enforcement of drug laws, but the overall impact on drug consumption, crime, public health and unseen moral consequences.One of the major goals of prohibition is to increase the cost of drugs and thereby reduce demand and drug consumption. But Miron says this approach has failed. He points out that the price of drugs has actually fallen by 80% in the past 25 years. Despite millions of drug arrests, Miron says prohibition has had a relatively small effect on both the supply and consumption of drugs. He says the government's claims of a fifty percent drop in consumption due to prohibition are exaggerated. "Prohibition reduces access of drugs to some people, but there is no evidence that suggests a large effect," says Miron.Miron also disputes claims by the federal Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) that drug use makes people violent and contributes to crime. He says prohibition increases violence because people involved in the drug trade have no recourse to the legal system to settle their disputes and are more likely to settle it themselves with force. "There is no evidence that merely consuming drugs makes you go out and do criminal things," says Miron.Throughout history, Miron says periods of escalating violence have been sparked by attempts to prohibit certain commodities such as drugs, alcohol, gambling or prostitution. In instances where prohibition does increase the cost of drugs, he says drug users are more likely to steal or rob to pay for drugs. Police efforts to curtail violence are often diverted to enforcing drug laws.Miron also notes that the drug trade enriches only the sellers, who are exempt from paying taxes on their products or minimum wages to workers. Drug sellers are not required to engage in quality control, which leads to more overdoses and accidental poisonings, says Miron. And he notes that there are other social consequences that make prohibition more costly than the legalization. "Because prohibition is a victimless crime, there is strong incentive for police to impede civil liberties and do racial profiling," he says. Miron adds that resistance to needle exchange programs under prohibition also increases the spread of HIV.The effects of drug use on third parties such as unborn children or those involved in drug-related traffic accidents are exaggerated, says Miron, and not significantly different from the negative effects of alcohol or forgoing sleep for late-night TV. As for those who think that drugs are inherently immoral, Miron argues that the concurrent violence, damage to civil liberties and decreased respect for law which follows prohibition have a larger negative moral impact on people who are innocent bystanders to the drug war. According to Miron, the paternalistic attitude that people need to be protected from themselves opens a Pandora's box of government intervention."There is no reason to think that the benefits of reducing myopic drug use balances the costs that prohibition places on society," says Miron. "The best policy is to legalize drugs and do it sooner rather than later."The Drug War Crimes forum also looked at the impact of prohibition on police forces. Joseph McNamara, former police chief of San Jose and now a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, says police have been greatly influenced by federal escalation of the drug war. He says financially strapped local police departments now receive significant funding and much of their training from federal officials who encourage them to continue to make drug arrests. "It is a jihad, it is a holy war you have to fight," says McNamara.McNamara says local police are also encouraged by city officials to seize the assets of suspected drug criminals to fund their departments. "In San Jose when I was given zero dollars in the budget they said 'you guys seized four million dollars last year, I expect you to do better this year,"' says McNamara.McNamara says police are under pressure from citizen groups who worry about the impact of open outdoor drug markets on children in the neighborhood. He emphasized that these concerns cannot be dismissed. But he says current drug policies have vastly increased police corruption, and created a culture of "gangster cops." Protected by a code of silence and supported by an attitude from top officials that police should not be impeded in their duties, McNamara says prohibition gives rise to a range of police abuses. McNamara says this has been illustrated in series of police corruption scandals including one at his former employer, the New York City Police Department. Investigators there, he said, found that narcotics officers had been robbing drug dealers and stealing their drugs. Confronted by the reality that the country is still flooded with drugs, he says police sometimes develop the attitude that "it's hopeless we can't do anything about it, why shouldn't we all benefit."Despite the impact on prohibition on the stability of social institutions, the US government rarely looks at the unintended consequences of the drug war, says Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance (DPA). "The absence of critical analysis on the part of the administration and Congress is worse now than ever," says Nadelmann who once worked for the US State Department analyzing the laundering of drug money.Nadelmann says the DPA has been building a political movement to shift public opinion concerning drug prohibition. "We want to end prohibition as we know it and reduce the harms of drugs," says Nadelmann. "Nobody should be punished in any way for what we put in our bodies, that should be a fundamental human right and is sound public policy."According to Nadelmann, one of the greatest concerns about drug legalization is "loss of control." He says that the government's prohibition policies have resulted in greater overall loss of control and regulation and taxation of drugs is the answer to this concern. Since the majority of drug arrests take place for marijuana, he says the dismantling of prohibition has started there. He says the DPA has taken the initiative to the states and helped support the passage of state medical marijuana laws and asset forfeiture reform. DPA also helped pass California's Prop. 36 which significantly reduced the number of people sent to jail for drug crimes by offering treatment as an alternative.Nadelmann noted that countries with more permissive drug laws have not seen an increase in drug use. When an audience at the panel asked about age limits on drug access, Nadelmann says there was support for age limits such as that which exist for alcohol and cigarettes. But he noted that children would still get access, as they do now to both drugs and alcohol, and it is important that these concerns be addressed by families.Nadelmann says the marijuana reform movement mirrors the gay rights movement in that it is pushed forward by those who put a human face on the issue by coming out of the closet as marijuana smokers. He says this had helped shift public opinion in which 41% of those polled support the idea that marijuana should be taxed and regulated with numbers approaching 50% in Nevada and Alaska.As an increasing number of states take steps toward regulating medical cannabis, Nadelmann says the next question will be "what is medical?" He notes that some people use cannabis to generate the same effect as Viagra, to treat depression, or to relax at the end of the day as one would with a cocktail.According to Nadelmann, the next evolutionary step in the repeal of drug prohibition is the Oakland Cannabis Initiative, a ballot initiative in Oakland, Calif. which would make marijuana enforcement the lowest police enforcement priority and support a statewide effort to tax and regulate the drug. Supporters of the initiative are still gathering signatures to place it on the November ballot.Another challenge for those who wish to overturn drug prohibition is to end policies that encourage the hatred of those who consume or distribute drugs. Nadelmann notes that under prohibition, these people are not only imprisoned, but they have property confiscated, driver's licenses taken away and are cut off from access to educational funding. These measures, says Nadelmann, violate the right of Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. He reminded the audience at the Drug War Crimes forum that the first laws supporting drug prohibition were put in place in 1914 by "fundamentalist groups who inserted their concept of sin into the penal code.""It is not up to the government to tell us what rights they will dole out to us," said Nadelmann as the audience cheered. "We were born with those rights."
Counting the Costs of the Drug War
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on May 29, 2004 at 13:43:05 PT
Related Article from The Associated Press
Sheriff Seizes 110 Plants from Medical Marijuana Group May 29, 2004Clackamas County Sheriff's deputies seized 110 marijuana plants this week from a greenhouse in Woodburn, despite the growers' objection that the plants were authorized under Oregon's medical marijuana law. Shawn Flury of Oregon Green Cross said he is certain of his right to grow marijuana, and plans to replant his crop. He said he is collecting plants from other medical marijuana groups around the state and hopes to have plants in the ground as quickly as possible. He said the group serves about 35 patients who depend on a free ounce of marijuana twice a month to ease their ailments. However, sheriff's officials say they seized the plants from the group's rented greenhouse on South Elliott Prairie Road because the operation lacked the documentation needed to grow that many plants. There have been other raids of people suspected of violating the state's medical marijuana law, but this week's raid involved an unusually large number of plants, officials said. Flury insists he had the documents that show the seized plants were legal. He thinks a paperwork backlog prevented police from verifying the records with the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program, which registers growers and issues medical marijuana cards to patients. Oregon's 5-year-old medical marijuana law allows people with "debilitating medical conditions" to grow no more than seven plants at a time with a doctor's endorsement. Only three of the seven can be mature plants. Cardholders must register the growing site with the state. Cardholders also can designate a caregiver to grow marijuana for them. The rules allow 30 working days after a grower takes over a cardholder's plants before the state must be notified. So even if there's nothing in the state's files on the day of a police raid, a large collection of plants can turn out to be legal if the paperwork comes in later. Deputy Angela Brandenburg, a sheriff's spokeswoman, said most of the growing operations her department investigates involve a person growing a crop at home for one or two cardholders. Large growing operations also are less common statewide. Copyright: 2004 Associated Press
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Comment #1 posted by Virgil on May 29, 2004 at 12:44:01 PT
Making the upside down once again right
We see the absurdity of all of prohibition in the outlawing of hemp plants and the total distortion of truth and epitome of inhumanity in the outlawing of medical Miracleplant. The greatest injustice of medical Miracleplant is that there should be Free Cannabis For Everyone anyway. Miracleplant is a beneficial plant and not a dangerous and addictive drug.There is a situation brewing in Canada that everyone should know about because what it tells us of the upside down world where the top 1% make all the rules and the rules are primarily to see that the upper 1% continues to make the rules. Everyone here is familiar with the acknowledgement by the Canadian Courts that there were no possession laws and cultivation laws in Canada from August 1,2001 until October 7, 2003 when somehow mysteriously the courts passed legislation that there are now new laws to replace the ones that died on Terry Parker Day. There may be laws against trafficing, but I am one convinced that there are none against possession or growing.But the big thing we can all see in Canada, is the lawyers feeding on the mistake of the court. A 100,000 of Canada's citizens were convicted when there were no laws against their acts and we see the courts not taking action to correct their mistake. The lawyers want to feed off of a one by one correction of this huge injustice inside of the even bigger injustice of cannabis prohibition itself. We saw how the media and the lawyers kept it all a big secret until about May 6th of last year when the secret could be kept no more.Now the courts cannot pass legislation and the laws were declared dead as in not revivable. But June 9th is the test of this belief and Canada will have a chance to look at itself in the mirror if the ruling goes the way it should. There will be another epileptic take his case before the same judge that first declared Terry Parker had proven the violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedom's that came with Chaper 7 of the drug laws in about 1997. A week from Tuesday, this judge will have before him the fact that the laws were declared dead. Now the October 7th ruling was not so bold as to outright declare that the previous laws to were to be restored to full standing and it is to be deciphered out of a 96 page ruling that will have to be presented by the Crown.Then the following Wednesday is John Turmel's case where he had like 3 kilo's of laughing grass on the steps of Parliament when he was making his statement the laws were dead. I know John Turmel has his share of enemies because he steps on people's toes before he kicks them in the shinn, but unlike Barbara Bush, he really does have a beautiful mind and they both have huge egos, even though Turmel does not draw a reflected glory from being the decendent of President Pierce.So Turmel would like to run for Prime Minister under an Abolishinist Party on the May 28th elections. There was a ruling from the Supreme Court with a year stay that ends May 27th that seems to have some bearing on May 28th date. Now everyone always wonders why people say things when they might not first seem relevant to cannabis and its prohibition. It is like this. Everything that is upside down is relevant. That is why the torture reports out of Iraq affected the cannabis issue. It showed that the lies are everywhere and nobody seems to understand what all the lies and the control of the media and cannabis prohibition have in common. It all has to do with living in an artificial reality where Miracleplant is a drug and is not beneficial but addictive and dangerous. It is all about having the upper 1% having means of controlling the other 99%.But the Internet is what is changing it all. It is like a glacier in the ocean where the small surface gains the attention out of the water. But what happens is that an iceburg melts and all of a sudden there is a huge rotation when the sides melt and the bottom stays on the bottom. Sometimes they even explode when the pressure changes when they turn. But that is the problem the 1% have with yielding to the Logical Conclusion. It would let loose a creative and determined force knowledgeble in the fact that many things have been upside down for a long time and must be made right again.Cannabis Prohibition may be acknowledged as dead and buried come a week from Tuesday in Canada. There will be a Coalition government now in Canada now that the Conservative Party has corrupted its way out of dominance. The fall of CP in Canada will mean the iceburg is going to flip and once Canada gets a good look in the mirror, we to the south will have a telling mirror to look at when we look up.
Turmel tells of the June 9th showdown in Canada
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