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  Bill O'Reilly Rips 'Open Society' in Speech 

Posted by CN Staff on May 24, 2004 at 13:00:16 PT
By K. Aaron Van Oosterhout, H-P Correspondent 
Source: Herald-Palladium 

Benton Township -- America stands at the brink of becoming an "open society" where no rules apply, one of cable television's most popular news personalities warned Sunday.Bill O'Reilly, host of Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," told the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan that America is at a secular-traditional cultural dichotomy. It was brought on by gay marriage, legalized medical marijuana and what billionaire liberal George Soros terms "an open society."
To explain his own stance, O'Reilly told the crowd at Lake Michigan College's Mendel Center an anecdote from his past.As a teenager, he had been a fan of the popular rock band The Doors. Attending one of their concerts, he said he saw standing in front of him a family of four: a mother, father, and two young boys about 10 to 12 years old. Standing in front of them was a man smoking marijuana, and the smoke was drifting into the faces of the family.The mother tapped the man on the shoulder and asked him to put out the joint, but the man refused, uttering an obscenity.O'Reilly - there with a friend, "the Bear, who looked like a biker" - then tapped the man on the shoulder and told him, "you're gonna put it out, or you're gonna swallow it."Amidst laughter and applause from the crowd, O'Reilly squinted his blue eyes and said, "That guy did nothing (without the threat of physical force), because he lived in an 'open society.'"In an open society, O'Reilly said, individuals are allowed to do whatever they feel like doing, without fear of being judged by others."I don't want these guys," he said. "I don't want quasi-socialism. I don't want to break down structure so these hooligans can do what they want to do when they want to do it."Among the other "hooligans" he named were the American Civil Liberties Union and Planned Parenthood.He also decried contemporary public education, saying that instead of teaching children civics, American government and U.S. history, "It's teaching them about gay marriage, and how great it is."O'Reilly said of homosexual couples: "We'll give you the full rights under the law as a married couple, but we're not gonna give you the label marriage, because that is defined as a man and a woman."O'Reilly talked of other current issues, most notably the war in Iraq.He detailed what he said were the war's successes and said he believed the Bush administration had "very good intentions" going into Iraq.He then launched into the current dilemma: Should we stay or should we go?"We cannot baby-sit (the Iraqis)," he said to the applauding crowd. "Give them a chance, give them stability, but we should get out of there as soon as we can get the heck out of there."He explained his position, saying, "The majority of the Iraqi people do not appreciate what we've done for them."For that reason, O'Reilly said the U.S. military should ship out and not let another soldier die for that ungrateful nation. For good measure, he added three other reasons: the lack of weapons of mass destruction, the current Iraqi insurrection and the recent human rights violations at Abu-Ghraib prison.He concluded the speech with a warning to the audience about the upcoming presidential election."This terror threat's not going to go away," he said. "Figure out who Osama (bin Laden) wants elected, and vote for the other guy. I figured it out, and it's Ralph (Nader)" that bin Laden wants elected.Nader doesn't have any answers for public security issues, he said.Complete Title: Bill O'Reilly Rips 'Open Society' in Speech at Economic ClubSource: Herald-Palladium, The (MI)Author: K. Aaron Van Oosterhout, H-P CorrespondentPublished: Monday, May 24, 2004 Copyright: 2004 The Herald-PalladiumContact: letters heraldpalladium.comWebsite: http://www.heraldpalladium.com/Open Society Institutehttp://www.soros.org/CannabisNews -- Justice Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/justice.shtml

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Comment #40 posted by john wayne on May 26, 2004 at 17:37:07 PT
This is Bill O'Reilly's worst?
Pretty light stuff.  Like, condemning something that has a very nice ring to it? "Open Society"  Sounds like something I'd be happy to wear on a T-shirt.And saying the schools teach gay marriage?  Actually, if they teach the Dec. of Independence and the Constitution, they do! Something about "pursuit of happiness", as I recall.
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Comment #39 posted by afterburner on May 25, 2004 at 20:47:32 PT
We Will Fight in the Courts, at the Ballot Box...
Marijuana Activist wins Democratic Nomination 
by Reverend Damuzi (25 May, 2004) Bufford takes on California's drug war http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3477.html"Bufford's Democratic bid mirrors Canadian marijuana activist Alison Myrden's bid to become a Member of Parliament with the NDP. Although not as thoroughly pro-pot as the NDP, many Democrats are publically opposed to the drug war. Bufford sees his candidacy as important in influencing his party to adopt antiprohibitionist policies."
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Comment #38 posted by global_warming on May 25, 2004 at 14:39:00 PT
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Comment #37 posted by BigDawg on May 25, 2004 at 10:37:08 PT
Libertarian = Communist
How funny!The ideals of Marxism (freedom from alienation and oppression, a life constrained by nothing but personal choice, the withering away of religion, and the withering away of the state), excluding economics, are VERY close to libertarian thought. Throw economics into the fray and they but heads.Of course... the authoritarian aspects of the neo-cons waxes familiar in a Stalinist kind of way.Labels such as left, right, communist, marxist, socialist, etc., lead to much misunderstanding.The world is far more complicated than that. It would be nice to have a leader who understands this.I am a liberal libertarian.... where is MY candidate? LOL 
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on May 25, 2004 at 10:26:26 PT

Talk Amongst Yourselves
I just wanted to mention that I haven't found any news to post and maybe this thread can help everyone understand how people feel about different political parties if you keep talking. I sure don't mind at all. I will keep looking for news but my refrigerator bit the dust yesterday and I'm sure you all know how troubling that can be. The storms finished our roof off too! When it rains it pours! I grinned at my husband and said if things never go wrong you don't appreciate the good times and he laughed. 
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Comment #35 posted by E_Johnson on May 25, 2004 at 10:14:04 PT

Professor accuses Libertarians of Communism!
This is from the Chronicle of Higher Education:MAGAZINES & JOURNALSA glance at the May/June issue of "Society":
The new communismSoviet-style communism is dead, but libertarianism is driven by 
some of the same impulses, says Peter Augustine Lawler, a 
professor of government at Berry College, in the lead article of 
a symposium on the topic. "Insofar as the hopes of communism 
present themselves now in a more clearly libertarian and 
technology-friendly form, they are both more attractive and in 
some ways more dangerous," he writes."What libertarian ideology promises today is strangely close to 
what Marx promised would come with communism -- freedom from 
alienation and oppression, a life constrained by nothing but 
personal choice, the withering away of religion, and the 
withering away of the state," Mr. Lawler contends.Christian and classical ways of viewing the world, he says, 
include the idea that human alienation, a sense of being a 
stranger in the world, is natural, but communist and libertarian 
ideologies contest that view and try to fix the problem through 
setting up states differently."Nobody really thinks anymore that communist revolution is 
coming," he writes, "but the seductive lie still around today is 
that it's too bad that communism wouldn't work, that Marx's 
beautiful dream couldn't become real, that we can't free 
ourselves through political action from our miserable capitalist 
alienation."The symposium includes nine other articles by scholars of social 
science or political science at American and British colleges 
and universities.The journal is online for subscribers. For more information, 
visit http://www.transactionpub.com/ and click on "Journals."
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Comment #34 posted by dididadadidit on May 25, 2004 at 09:16:07 PT

Libertarian threat: Don't hold your breath
I've voted libertarian since '76 and have watched these suckers demonstrate the worst salesmanship possible. They have never, ever, cracked the 1% barrier for their presidential candidate.With this election shaping up as a clash between German fascism (with the worlds finest arsenal of WMDs at their disposal) and fascism light (the Kerry Democrat Italian crowd) I suspect there will be even less "third" party wasted votes than usual (I'll hold my nose and go with fascism light). The lines are drawn between those who will support FlightSuitBoy no matter what and those who desperately want the SOBs out (me) before they get us all killed, or worse. There is less room than usual for "third" party flirtation, the libertarians (and Nader, I might add) will not be a factor.Question.
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Comment #33 posted by observer on May 25, 2004 at 09:12:20 PT

The Osama O'Reilly Bear School of Media & Violence
"This terror threat's not going to go away," he said. "Figure out who Osama (bin Laden) wants elected, and vote for the other guy. I figured it out, and it's Ralph (Nader)" that bin Laden wants elected.Wow! The man seems to be well inside Bin Laden's terrorist head. That's probably because O'Reilly and his ilk are cut from the same "every problem can be solved by using force" mindset as Osama. While they may superficially dress and have different hair and speaking styles, they both whip out force and coercion as their preferred methods of dealing with reality. O'Reilly - there with a friend, "the Bear, who looked like a biker" - then tapped the man on the shoulder and told him, "you're gonna put it out, or you're gonna swallow it."If O'Reilly said it, it must have happened just that way, don't you think?Chuckle. Of course, what a set: Osama, O'Reilly, and Bear the Biker. If you don't like it: Cut off it's head, bomb it, sexually humuliate it, torture it, and beat it senseless. On the surface, they seem so different, but they have much in common.According to the Osama O'Reilly Bears of the world, if you don't like something, then: 1) Find someone to hurt, arrest, jail, torture, and humiliate.2) Then, shoot people if they resist or otherwise have an improper attitude. Or find a way to righteously kill people if not killing them may be argued to "send out a message" that is unsatisfactory.3) Above all: punish! Punishment and vengeance in the service of one's disgust at reality is always healthy. Apply punishment early and often. You posses the power to punish; your destiny is to rule, thus punishment of those who balk at your righteous rule is key to preserving righteousness in the land. Punish freely and joyously, knowing thou art the chosen!
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Comment #32 posted by Sam Adams on May 25, 2004 at 09:10:31 PT

Anyone else notice that...
Bill O'Reilly looks very gay? His eyes & brows look very feminine to me, and it would go a long way towards explaining his militant stance - he can't allow himself to give into his desires, so no one else should, either. The first time I saw him I thought "whoa, obviously gay!".Also, what did the parents expect to find at the Doors concert?For that matter, what if the guy in front of the family kept blowing huge farts? Does the biker get to beat him up for that, too?Bikers generally drink & drive - I wonder how Billy-boy got to the concert & home. Totally sober, I'm sure.
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Comment #31 posted by mamawillie on May 25, 2004 at 08:37:28 PT

Libertarian News

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For release: May 25, 2004
================================CBSNews.com: Libertarian candidate in 2004
could cost Bush the electionWASHINGTON, DC -- The Libertarian presidential candidate who will be nominated in Atlanta on Sunday may have a bigger impact on the race than Ralph Nader and "could cost Mr. Bush his job in 2004," according to an analysis by David Paul Kuhn, chief political writer for CBSNews.com.The May 21 article, headlined "Bush's Third-Party Threat," says many conservatives are so upset with Republican spending increases that they may abandon Bush in November. If that happens, the Libertarian nominee "may do for Democrats in 2004 what Nader did for Republicans in 2000" and cost Bush the election, Kuhn says.To gauge the Libertarian impact in 2004, Kuhn analyzes voting patterns in swing states and concludes that Libertarian candidates have already cost the GOP several gubernatorial and U.S. Senate seats. Among them:* In the 2002 Wisconsin gubernatorial race, Libertarian Ed Thompson earned "a startling" 85,455 votes, he notes, while Democrat Jim Doyle won the state by about 75,000 votes.* In the 2002 Oregon gubernatorial race, Libertarian Tom Cox garnered 57,760 votes to help Democrat Ted Kulongoski edge out Republican Kevin Mannix by just 35,000 votes.* In the 1998 Nevada U.S. Senate contest, Libertarian Michael Cloud won 8,129 votes while Democrat Harry Reid beat Republican John Ensign by 401 votes.Echoing the lesson learned in the 2000 Bush-Gore presidential race, Kuhn notes, "it only takes one state to change the course of the nation."According to one expert quoted in the article, Lawrence Jacobs of the 2004 Elections Project for the Humphrey Institute, "The Libertarians will impact Republicans more than Nader will impact Democrats."Nader's support may be more equally distributed between the right and left this year than in 2000, analysts say, because of his endorsement by the Reform Party and because of his efforts to work with presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry to curtail his activity in swing states.Libertarians, however, are expected to bring in mostly conservative votes, Kuhn notes."While Democrats fret over the possibility of Ralph Nader causing them to lose another election by stealing votes on the left, President Bush may face an even greater third-party threat from the right wing," he writes.
"The Libertarian nominee could cost Mr. Bush his job in 2004."However, Libertarian Party Executive Director Joe Seehusen points out that Libertarian candidates typically draw votes from independent and Democratic voters as well as from Republicans.
 
"Could the Libertarian nominee play a role in costing a big-government advocate like George Bush his job?" he asks. "Let's hope so."But let's keep in mind that it's not just Republicans who have sold out their own voters. Democrats have betrayed Americans who believe in peace and civil liberties by supporting the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act."So we can't be certain whether we'll attract more votes from disgruntled Republican voters or disillusioned Democrats. But we do know that Americans who want the government out of their bedroom, out of their
boardroom, out of their wallet and out of Iraq are going to have a Libertarian on the ballot in November. And we'll be choosing that candidate in Atlanta this weekend."The Libertarian National Convention will run from Thursday, May 27 to Monday, May 31 at the Atlanta Marriott Marquis Hotel and ballroom. The 800-plus delegates in attendance will also make changes to the party
Platform, listen to a wide array of speakers and entertainers and elect a national chair.
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Comment #30 posted by Dan B on May 25, 2004 at 08:08:18 PT

A Question Nobody Has Asked
Are we really to believe that a mother and father brought their two children to a Doors concert and became upset when someone there was smoking a joint? What did they expect at a Doors concert--animal balloons and licorice sticks for the kiddies? The Doors didn't exactly hide their drug use, and neither did their fans. They were right in the middle of the psychedelic revolution, a fact clearly demonstrated by even a casual listen to their music and lyrics. Don't get me wrong: parents should have the right to take their kids where they want to take them. But, common sense would seem to dictate that if you don't want your kids to be exposed to cannabis, don't take them to a place where cannabis is certain to be smoked.Even more absurd is the notion that Bill O'Reilly was once a Doors fan.Whatever.Dan B
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Comment #29 posted by kaptinemo on May 25, 2004 at 05:15:36 PT:

With regards to the article
It's generally a good idea to seek out the origins of any movement or group to understand literally 'where they're coming from'.http://www.soros.org/about/overviewAs to Mr. O'Reilly's attack dog demeanor, he is only barking and snarling because his Republican handlers are worried. Very worried. A man like Soros who has demonstrated that he can topple entire economies such as Indonesia's is nobody to get p****d off at you...as Bush so obviously caused Soros to be. Bush fears Soros's wealth could counterbalance his Republican backer's heavy advantage. And with the connections at 'grass-roots' (no pun intended) that have been forged successfully between organizations of like mind (such as the ACLU and MPP), the OSI's threat of a enabling populist backlash powered by big bucks whipsnapping the Bush Machine out of office is very real. Hence O'Reilly's wildly exaggerating the intents of the OSI as seeking to create anarchy...to counterbalance the 'law and order' offered by his masters. Yes...such 'law and order' as includes: engaging in a Constitutionally illegal and humanly immoral war; trashing the Treasury; wrecking the economy with Enronization (more simply known as 'crony capitalism'); attempting to throttle civil liberties (which OSI seeks to protect) in the name of 'national security'...I could go on, but you get the gist of it. The Bush Regime's heavy reliance upon secrecy alone is sufficient reason for the need for an organization fostering openness. IMHO, for people who've screamed and ranted so much about immorality, law & order and the inviolability of the rule of law as being the cornerstone of civilization these past 25 years, it would appear that many of the Republicans and their supporters have been feverishly working to undermine such tenets themselves. It's just another example of the use of political 'code'. To hide one's real intent behind words designed to elicit responses which draw attention away from the reality of the situation to a view the manipulator wants you to assume. Something the Bush Administration has proven to be past masters at. But no more.
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Comment #28 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on May 25, 2004 at 03:37:02 PT

Another pro-legalization candidate worth watching
The author of the book "Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed And What We Can Do About It: A Judicial Indictment Of The War On Drugs", Judge James Gray, is running for the US Senate as a California Libertarian. "What Judge Jim Gray Stands For... End the failed war on marijuana by treating it just like alcohol"... plus repealing the Patriot Act, and other actions to minimize the harm associated with various failed Bush policies.
http://judgegray2004.com/
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Comment #27 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on May 25, 2004 at 01:59:45 PT

Current BO'Re poll
The current poll at billoreilly.com is asking whether he should invite Michael Moore on his show. I voted YES - the more press Mike's new movie gets the better! 
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 22:00:23 PT

The GCW
Montel Williams is turning into a great spokesman for medicinal cannabis. He's a no nonsense guy and people will listen to him. I watched the program again and O'Reilly did make it seem like medical marijuana should be legal. Montel mentioned GW and the spray and said the spray was made from the cannabis plant it's not synthetic like Marinol. He had a twinkle in his eye when he said that too. He said there were 2 people ( He was wrong on the numbers but still a very good point) who get a tin of rolled cigarettes from the government. He said that means that the government knows that medical marijuana helps. I might not have this word for word but I think you'll understand.
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Comment #25 posted by The GCW on May 24, 2004 at 20:46:35 PT

From what I've read,
Montel has done quite a few shows now.Cannabis exterminists are being exposed.The cannabis exterminator is a low crawler.Snakes in suits. 
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Comment #24 posted by OverwhelmSam on May 24, 2004 at 20:06:48 PT

O'Rielly Is A School Yard Bully
Plain and simple. His idea of justice is to beat up anyone who doesn't want to live by his rules. What a jerk.
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 19:35:44 PT

Wouldn't It Be Wonderful
If we could finally take the sick off the battlefield? I sure thing so. I appreciate what Montel is doing. He is very brave.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 19:23:50 PT

sukoi 
I'm amazed. Thank you for confirming what I thought I heard. I was only half paying attention until Montel came on and I kept waiting for O'Reilly to insult him but he didn't. So Bill O'Reilly understands the need to break the law in certain situations concerning the use of cannabis for pain. I didn't think he had it in him.
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Comment #21 posted by sukoi on May 24, 2004 at 19:11:48 PT

Yep,
that's pretty much wat he said!
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 18:29:01 PT

O'Reilly!
I can't believe it! I hope someone will find transcripts and I'll post them right away. I'll look too! Great show! I'm shocked! I swear I heard Bill O'Reilly say he would let a family member use cannabis if they needed it after trying Marinol. I think I heard right. My VCR is broken or I would have taped it.
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Comment #19 posted by mamawillie on May 24, 2004 at 18:19:46 PT

Cavuto is also a cancer survivor
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/neilcavuto/nc20040410.shtmlApril 10, 2004
 What would you do if you were told you had six months to live? Think about that. Think hard. Because a good friend of mine is wrestling with that. He's a top money manager at a top brokerage house. And he has advanced testicular cancer. He's dying. And he doesn't have much time. Even his doctor said six months might be pushing it. When he first found out a couple of weeks ago, he was in shock. He sought me out; not only because I'm a good friend, but also because I'm a cancer survivor and have been dealing with multiple sclerosis for about a decade now. I'm a Petri dish for this stuff, I guess. But I'm not the issue here. He is. Because what he did and said next amazed me.
 **snipped**
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Comment #18 posted by mamawillie on May 24, 2004 at 18:13:54 PT

Neil Cavuto
Dankhank, Neil Cavuto has multiple sclerosis, so maybe he was posing a question that sounded stupid to you, but did so for the purpose of Montel preaching the wonders of cannabis??? You know, take a question some antis could relate to and let Montel go at it.
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Comment #17 posted by mayan on May 24, 2004 at 18:12:53 PT

Darth Nader?
"This terror threat's not going to go away," he said. "Figure out who Osama (bin Laden) wants elected, and vote for the other guy. I figured it out, and it's Ralph (Nader)" that bin Laden wants elected.If the terrorists "hate us because of our freedom", they must really hate Ralph Nader! The terrorists are rooting for Bush or Kerry, since either one of them will swell the terrorist's ranks. 
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 15:16:53 PT

global_warming 
Very interesting comment. I believe that if we close the door to our minds and assume we have all the answers we will wither and die. We need to keep learning to keep our minds from becoming stale if that makes sense. Knowledge and the ability to learn is a good thing. It keeps us young or at least young at heart.
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Comment #15 posted by global_warming on May 24, 2004 at 15:03:17 PT

Closed Society
"Bill O'Reilly, host of Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," told the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan that America is at a secular-traditional cultural dichotomy. It was brought on by gay marriage, legalized medical marijuana and what billionaire liberal George Soros terms "an open society." This guy (O'Reilly) is really screwed up, mixing all these things into some frightful confusion. It's sad that the truth is the first thing to go in a closed society. Maybe in an "open society" as that villain and "liberal" Soros proposes, is to understand history and the lessons that it teaches.Mankind has struggled to free it self from oppression, superstition and greedy lords of the manor..American democracy is an excercise in "freedom", freedom from oppressive doctrines, churches and groveling politicians.The story about the pot smoker does illustrate what we have become in this country (US), but this has nothing to do with an open society, it has to do with rudeness and inconsiderate people, people that were never taught to have some respect for the other people in their lives and community. One can see the effects of such rudeness and inconsideration in our government, our judicial system and certainly in our business leaders.In an open society, people are free to discuss issues that effect their daily lives, they are allowed to explore new ideas in government and spirituallity.As long as the "bottom line" that is, the "profit margin" is the controlling force in this world, we are doomed to further slavery in a system that will become ever more mechinized and computerized. The machines will win, the dreaded "materialistic" will control every thought and drop of water and food.We can stop this machine type of thinking, but we have to act soon, for there will come a time, when it will be too late, as they say, "missed the boat"..I still can have a "private" moment in my garden, but for many, as the condos swell, have no space, no place to go to have a quiet place, a place to think and to open up to the vast potential of this universe.The chains and prisons come in many flavors, some are doomed to live their entire lives behind some desk or machine, pumping out more machines and poisons, in a closed society, information can never reach these trapped people. In an open society, they can find and explore other ways to build and sustain our families, our communities and our world.gw
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 14:35:41 PT

Thanks sukoi
I'll watch it even if it does give me a headache! I appreciate it!
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Comment #13 posted by sukoi on May 24, 2004 at 14:32:55 PT

Speaking of O'Reilly and Montel Willaims, 
Montel will be on the O'Reilly Factor tonight talking about MMJ!http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/community/tvshow.jsp
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 14:32:40 PT

A Picture from The Amsterdam Article
So what's wrong with this?http://www.sltrib.com/2004/May/05232004/images/sunAmsterdam30.jpgThe writing is on the wall, as they say, in Amsterdam, where coffee shops offer patrons directions if they wish to smoke some weed with their espresso. (Tom Wharton/The Salt Lake Tribune) 
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 14:28:13 PT

The GCW
I agree with you.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 14:02:26 PT

Thanks EJ
To me the right to privacy is one of the most important things in the world. We didn't build our home years ago way out in no mans land for no reason. We had an above the ground pool for a few years and I kiddingly said to Ron Bennett a while ago that you could run around naked out here and no one would see you. He really laughed at that. Heck there's a nudist colony close to us. PS: We don't run around here naked though! LOL!
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Comment #9 posted by The GCW on May 24, 2004 at 14:01:58 PT

Cannabis users 
just want A place to use cannabis with out fear.One place.There would be more respect if there was a safety zone (acceptable place) but since there isn't... it's all game.People behave better when We know Our boundries. Right now it is open (house) because it is underground. There is no boundry -NOW. Contempt is what the law receives.Re-Legalize and regulate. 
Compromise.Let Us not blow smoke up Your way.And You; stop harming Us for simply using what God created, gave, and said was good.The Green Collar Worker 

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Comment #8 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 13:56:11 PT

Dankhank
I missed it. I barely ever turn on FoxNews. It gives me a headache. I wonder if there will be transcripts.
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Comment #7 posted by Dankhank on May 24, 2004 at 13:45:56 PT

Montel on Foxnews ...
just now and did a good response for the stupid questions Neil Cavuto threw him and did wonders for all who use Cannbis.   
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Comment #6 posted by E_Johnson on May 24, 2004 at 13:31:58 PT

Communists don't recognize private life FoM
Trotsky was a famous Communist who wrote, "Anyone who desires a private life has done badly to be born in the 20th century."The neo-Conservatives are making his prediction come to life, therefore they are really neo-Communists not neo-Conservatives as they like to call themselves.They're sort of like Chinese Communists, they want strict social control in an economy where they can still get rich.
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Comment #5 posted by E_Johnson on May 24, 2004 at 13:25:00 PT

Bill O'Reilly is a Communist
There. I've said it.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on May 24, 2004 at 13:17:53 PT

I'll Pose a Question
In an open society do people have the right to take off all their clothes, smoke pot, shoot drugs, be verbally abusive to anyone anywhere they want, have sex in front of anyone? I don't think so. We should address the difference between public and private issues and that might get some people that fight us so off our backs. What do you all think?
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Comment #3 posted by aocp on May 24, 2004 at 13:15:02 PT

check out this link
You have to take this site with a grain of salt, but this local aocp affiliate finds the site to be hilarious, so here goes:http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly
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Comment #2 posted by mamawillie on May 24, 2004 at 13:12:11 PT

The other side
I am no O'Reilley apologist, but I have heard him say on his show (which I rarely watch) that he doesn't have a problem with legalizing marijuana so that adults can smoke it in the privacy of their homes.I guess he was distinguishing between privately smoking and publicly smoking... which people here may or may not appreciate a distinction. Whatever.The medical Mj thing... dunno there...Mama
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Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on May 24, 2004 at 13:10:09 PT

You can tell he was schooled by an abusive father
It's his way or the highway. Just the way his drunken dad treated him I bet.
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