cannabisnews.com: Richardson Would Be ‘Pabulum’ To Foe of Drug War
Richardson Would Be ‘Pabulum’ To Foe of Drug War
Posted by CN Staff on March 30, 2004 at 16:40:52 PT
By Albert Eisele and Jeff Dufour
Source: The Hill DC
Should New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) be named John Kerry’s running mate for the November election, he won’t be doing the ticket any favors among one traditionally Democratic constituency: the drug decriminalization crowd.At least not as far as his predecessor, former Gov. Gary Johnson (R), is concerned. At a reception hosted by the Drug Policy Alliance last week, Johnson expressed dismay at Richardson’s stewardship of his signature issue, suggesting that the former congressman and energy secretary lacks the kind of political courage necessary to take it forward.
“He’s pabulum,” said Johnson, with a ring of irritation in his voice.In his eight years in the state Capitol, Johnson’s tireless advocacy of medical marijuana and drug decriminalization began to tilt the issue from solidly Democratic to one that some Republicans have come to embrace. Johnson was roundly opposed in his own state but became something of a libertarian hero nationally. He has been traveling recently with members of the Drug Policy Alliance and Marijuana Policy Project to drum up support for the issue in other states. Richardson has said he’ll consider signing a medical marijuana bill moving through the Legislature but also publicly distanced himself from Johnson’s policies at a meeting with the federal drug czar.Complete Title: For Veep, Richardson Would Be ‘Pabulum’ To Foe of Drug War Section: Under The DomeSource: Hill, The (US DC)Author: Albert Eisele and Jeff Dufour Published: March 31, 2004Copyright: 2004 The HillContact: aleisele thehill.comWebsite: http://www.thehill.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/Drug Policy Alliancehttp://www.drugpolicy.org/Kerry Could Exploit Discontent on Bush's Righthttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18459.shtmlKerry: End Medical Marijuana Prosecutionhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18114.shtmlJohnson Talks Drugs on TV http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13480.shtml
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Comment #129 posted by E_Johnson on April 03, 2004 at 08:55:38 PT
They need LEAPPPP in Thailand
Law Enforcers Against Putting a gun in a drug users back and Pulling the trigger and Planting drugs on them and Phoning their family to come pick up the bodies.Well come to think of it, they need LEAPPPP on the LAPD, because that did happen to people in the Ramparts scandal.
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Comment #128 posted by jose melendez on April 03, 2004 at 05:51:10 PT
thanks ekim
thanks ekim, I emailed Smithson, we'll see . . .
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Comment #127 posted by ekim on April 02, 2004 at 21:12:11 PT
wrong site should be www.leap.cc
hey for a grin go to the leap.org site
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Comment #126 posted by ekim on April 02, 2004 at 21:07:13 PT
jose =mike sets up speakers please see one
and tell him or her what you are sayen. makes good sense to me. we have hundreds of billions of debt to china while we arrest and inprison any farmer here that wants to compete.
Jose maybe you can arrange for a confence near you to take this idea up another notch{bam}
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Comment #125 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 15:11:14 PT
Thanks FoM
The Drug War has the potential to eat all of the freedom left in the world.It has no natural end point, so what will ever limit it?Only people can choose to limit it, but Americans don't seem ready to make that choice.They don't even get to hear about Thailand.
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Comment #124 posted by FoM on April 02, 2004 at 14:57:31 PT
EJ I Understand What You Mean
You're right.
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Comment #123 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 14:49:26 PT
When Iraq is over
the Drug War will still be killing people.Look at Thailand -- over 2000 drug users murdered by police.Russia -- the police have become hit men for the Mafia.Maybe it's bigger than Iraq when it all gets added up.
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Comment #122 posted by FoM on April 02, 2004 at 14:20:59 PT
EJ I'm Glad For You
I am afraid and I doubt this fear will go away. Iraq is stuck deep in my mind and I don't think I can ever forget all the people who have died because of the war in Iraq. I've always felt that way about war.
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Comment #121 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 14:16:51 PT
Bush is a born loser FoM
I know he looks very powerful and successful now, but Bush has wrecked everything he's put his hand to, and if given enough time, he'd wreck the WOD tooThat's a devious way to see it maybe but one can't ignore Bush's impressive record for ruining anything he's run.I guess the real issue is how much of the rest of the world he'd wreck first...
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Comment #120 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 14:12:18 PT
I'm used to fearing Bush
I already know how to fight Bush.When we have to fight Kerry, it will be all new rules and they won't be to our advantage.When you criticize a Democrat in power, the Democrats don't take kindly to it.
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Comment #119 posted by FoM on April 02, 2004 at 13:59:59 PT
I Know What You Mean
My problem is that I am really afraid of Bush. Maybe Kerry wouldn't be that helpful for us but I'm not afraid of Kerry. What a shame that fear will guide me who to vote for. That's down right sad.
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Comment #118 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 13:40:51 PT
I won't get my hopes too high
I do not see good signs coming from the Democrats.Look at Salon magazine. They don't even cover drug reform any more. I think they've decided the issue is too threatening for the election.The signs are not good that Kerry will come around, frankly the signs seem to be pointing in the opposite direction.Things could get worse not better if he wins. He could do the same things Bush is doing but if Kerry were doing them we would have NO FRIENDS AT ALL in the opposition party.It's an option we have to consider, since we have to plan ahead in either case, no matter who wins this election.
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Comment #117 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 13:34:20 PT
I gave DK $$$
My contribution to DK was silent.
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Comment #116 posted by Nuevo Mexican on April 02, 2004 at 11:21:19 PT
Go to Astroworld.us E.J., Kerry will come around!
He has to get in office first, and then we can hold his feet to the fire, as his chart indicates he will become radicalized by the bush attacks on him, and after the election, he will do a Gary Johnson. The more bush goes after Kerry, the more bush is doing our work for us. He is literally being pushed to embrace our position, by default.Your concerns are real, but the stars for Kerry bode otherwise! If I didn't have this information, I would share your valid concerns. Question: Did you support Dennis Kucinich in his campaign for Democratic nominee? He is outspoken in his support for our cause, but I don't remember you getting behind him, but I could be wrong! Please correct my memories!It is the only hopeful scenario I can give you, but I am certain Kerry will come around on Cannabis and same sex marriage, the two human rights issues that will dominate the horizon before and after the election. I am a man of faith, and faith is always rewarded! Bush is a gift from the Uni-Verse, to awaken the sleeping masses to the fact that we have to vote, that we need to spend our spare time registering others to vote, spend all of our time educating each other, and create a community that recognizes that weve given our soverignity away, and declare our intentions to take our country back from the special interests, and corporate pirates.Otherwise Americans just sit around, pass the buck and say ho-hum, got Milk? What a waste of a formerly great nation, descending into the abyss. And remember, on Election Day, the Progressed Chart for the U.S. bodes well for Kerry and the American people, as the Sun Sign of the U.S. changes from Aquarius to Picses. On Election Day! This is huge, and bodes well for two things, a police state/martial law is declared, election results cancelled or elections delayed, yet, bush gets caught stealing the election and frog marched in handcuffs into a spider hole in Iraq, my favorite scenario!OR, Kerry wins by the hugest landslide in history, and the media is sued into bankruptcy for its complicity in shaping opinion on the illegal, unjust, criminal, murderous war ON Iraq, and the Iraqi People, (in an effort to steal Iraqs resources, and protect Israel from an attack by Saddam, as was revealed by the head the 911 commision this week).We have given it all away, for shopping rights, the right to change channels (though every news channel pumps out the same ole lies), the right to put cheap gas in our gas guzzling cars, the right to eat junk food to obesities outer limits, the right to get drunk any time of day we want, regardless of the consequences to others, which are real and discounted daily, the right to buy as much alcohol as one can afford, of any strength, or type, etc., without demonization, but glamorization, and with encouragment by its promoters. The right to delude ourselves, dumb down, blissfully ignorant of the world around us at how our policies affect all peoples of the world, in a fairly negative way. We have traded in our rights as citizens for rights as consumers. It is time to Wake Up NOw, and take on the responsibility of registering voters, and that is ALL we have to do.Look at Spain, 85% of the population voted after the bombing, a huge repudiation of bushes 'war on terror'.These educated folks voted in mass, and threw out the bums, if we can't do that in the U.S., we are not doing our jobs, as Americans. C-Newsers can change all that, just contact your local voter registar, and pick up the forms, set up a table at your local grocery store, and start registering! Educate voters on Cannabis issues while you talk politics, and find out we are in the majority, regardless of what Fox news says!
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Comment #115 posted by jose melendez on April 02, 2004 at 10:58:13 PT
Strike three, or, "That dog just won't hunt.
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Comment #114 posted by jose melendez on April 02, 2004 at 09:57:40 PT
"Justice" pleads the fifth?
Check out what "Justice" has to say:On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 10:18 AM, NewCase.ATR usdoj.gov wrote:Dear Mr. Melendez,Thank you for contacting the New Case Unit regarding the Documentary film you are preparing to produce. Though we understand your search to find answers to some questions led you to the Division's website, we would like you to note that the New Case Unit exists to gather information and not to disseminate information and thus cannot respond to your previous requests. Thank you for your understanding. Good luck with the project.Sincerely,
New Case Unit
Antitrust Division
U.S. Department of JusticeFrom: Jose Melendez
Date: Fri Apr 2, 2004 12:35:48 PM US/Eastern
To: newcase.atr usdoj.gov
(snip)Thanks,Interestingly, your reply conflicts with policies published on your web site.Please note my original query was sent as recommended by your web page at :http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/guidelines/primer-ncu.htmTo wit:"Antitrust violations are serious crimes that can cost a company hundreds of millions of dollars in fines and can send an executive to jail for up to three years. These conspiracies are by their nature secret and difficult to detect. The Antitrust Division needs your help in uncovering them and bringing them to our attention.If you think you have a possible violation or just want more information about what we do, contact the New Case Unit of the Antitrust Division:E-mail: newcase.atr usdoj.gov "I do indeed want more information about what you do, and also am aware of voluminous evidence of antitrust law violations readily available as part of the public record.I am interested in reporting such violations of law, including but not limited to illegal collusion to cheat consumers by price fixing. My hope is to have full faith and confidence in those sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution and laws of this country.Perhaps a conference call would be appropriate. If so, please include a contact name, and best time to call.Thanks!Jose Melendez
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Comment #113 posted by E_Johnson on April 02, 2004 at 00:03:07 PT
This election will not be fun
My opinions have changed a lot since the Clinton era.It should be really easy for me to vote for Kerry but I have never been so conscious before of how much serious harm the drug war is doing to things and ideas in the world that are good.Tough drug sentencing means beat up on people who have aleady been beaten up on pretty badly to have gotten where they are.It's nothing to be proud of, really, yet Kerry sounds proud.It's disgusting really, it's bullying.This is a nation of bullies. Maybe that means we should be led by the meanest bully. Maybe Bush is the right man to lead this country after all.Oh well, see I said it won't be fun.
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Comment #112 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 23:13:45 PT
Difficult Message
Politicians don't really say how they feel. I'm not sure they even know how they feel about most issues. I don't trust any politician. They are not living where average people live. They don't get it.
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Comment #111 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 23:04:00 PT
It's a difficult message to digest
This is what Kerry is saying to this community:"I think you're worse than rapists, but vote for me anyway.Maybe I won't aim guns at those of you who are ill."I was really buying it at the start, but I can't get over the part where the guy who was raped in jail would not be able to get a student loan from Kerry but Kerry's perfectly willing to give college aid to the rapist.It seems like a lot of things in the world must matter more than that.But if something like that doesn't matter, then what is it that makes the rest of it matter?
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Comment #110 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 22:46:36 PT
Well this is very difficult
"Kerry is mildly in support of reforming the Higher Education Amendment and told Students for Sensible Drug Policy that he would advocate repeal of the reform for drug felons "if the offence is use" but not "if the offence is selling"."This is a problem for me because this says someone that sells marijuana is lower than a rapist and I could never ever under any circumstances possibly ever agree to that in any way, in any circumstances, for any reason, ever.Like I said, I take rape seriously.So I guess Kerry is out for me.Obviously he doesn't take rape seriously.At least not enough to distract him from the political advantage to be had from beating on potheads.
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Comment #109 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 22:33:48 PT
Kerry 's Opinions from The Drug Policy Alliance
EJ I never saw this page before and thought you might want to read it too. I don't think there is really anything we don't know in the report but it still might be worth a look.http://www.lindesmith.org/statebystate/elect_2004/profiles/kerry/index.cfm
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Comment #108 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 22:22:25 PT
A problem I might not be able to get past
This guy:http://www.spr.org/en/news/2003/0614.htmlThe University of Florida student who was charged with felony delivery of marijuana for having an ounce of pot.The guy who was raped.According to Kerry, he doesn't deserve a college loan, but the man who raped him does.That's something I may not be able to get past, even if he does support medical marijuana.I take rape really seriously and I cannot stomach that Kerry would give a rapist financial aid over someone who gave someone else pot that they wanted to have.I can't get it off my mind and it's going to stick with me until November.
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Comment #107 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 18:49:31 PT
Hi Hope
I understand what you mean. Soon the web site should be fixed and maybe some of the articles I'll post will be hopeful instead of hard to handle.
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Comment #106 posted by Hope on April 01, 2004 at 18:41:17 PT
Had to poke my head in here a minute
Looks like a house party. Wonderful to read some things that don't kick me in the stomach so bad for a change.
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Comment #105 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 18:00:39 PT
Hey mayan
Thanks! Hopefully soon it will be working right and I'll be able to get a few articles posted. You're pretty special too.
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Comment #104 posted by mayan on April 01, 2004 at 17:50:59 PT
unrelated...
FoM, thanks for all you do! This is still my favorite site even when there is no new news posted!Here are some unrelated links I just found on rense.com...1938 Popular Mechanics Article On Hemp:
http://www.jackherer.com/popmech.html2 articles plus several URLs with articles that mention the
destruction of ten years of research on cannabis by Republicans,the conservatives, Reagan/Bush:
http://www.christiansforcannabis.com/greymatter/archives/00000157.htmlBig Oil, The War On Drugs And Terrorism:
http://rense.com/general50/bigl.htmThe way out...Fmr. FBI Translator: White House Had Intel On Possible Airplane Attack Pre-9/11:
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_crime&Number=1397278#Post1397278Chairman Kean's pre-9/11 Oil Links to bin Laden Severed Just Before Appointment to Commission:
http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=52&mode=&order=0&thold=0McKinney, seen as a foe of Israel, to run for her old seat in Congress:
http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=13941&intcategoryid=3Clarke and the Media Failures of 9/11:
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=167&mode=thread&order=0&thold=09/11 International Inquiry - Phase One:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/f3/09/200404011044.523fbaa2.htmlCondi - The Pressure Is On:
http://rense.com/general50/cnnfi.htmCONTACT INFO TO "SUGGEST" QUESTIONS FOR CONDI RICE: http://bigeye.com/urgent.htm
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Comment #103 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 17:12:09 PT
We've achieved a Soviet level of consciousness
"Voters support medical marijuana by a whopping margin, yet they think they're in the minority."Oh where in history have we seen that before?
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Comment #102 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 17:03:54 PT
Here's An Article I will Post When I Can
The Trouble with Marijuana and Legislators: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18305
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Comment #101 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 16:40:30 PT
Here's something interesting in the meantime
While we're waiting for the latest news about the war against us -- here's a little something I found that is interesting: a story about the destruction of the Afgham museum.http://www.radioafghanistan.com/AfgWeb/Ra21/afgmuseum.aspOne thing interesting here that adds to the tragedy of the loss of this history is that there is evidence of a goddess religion in Afghanistan. The female statue is the River Goddess and the set of photos of clay masks are the Mother Goddess. This is noted in the Alt text for the images. It says these types of figures are frequently found in Afghanistan in the south in Baluchistan.Check this out:******************
Afghanistan has a proud heritage; it has always been at the crossroads of Central Asia. It wasn?t just trade that brought power and prestige to its towns and cities, but Kabul could once have claimed to have been the New York or Paris of its time. The cities of Herat, Mazar-i-Sharif and Kabul could claim a patchwork of nationalities who brought with them ideas, philosophies and religions. Farther back in history, Afghanistan had not only been home to Buddhists, but Manichaeans, and Zoroastrians: several of their rites had, until Taleban conquest, continued to be observed.
****************************************Aha yes -- the native hashish culture of Afghanistan probably goes back to the Mother Goddess days.The Mother Goddess and the Mother Plant.I wonder how many traditions the Taliban wiped out?
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Comment #100 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 15:13:46 PT
Thanks Marc
I'll try to get in and read. It's hard for me because I'm in this waiting mode and not much else sticks in my head when I'm trying to figure out what's wrong. Computers are wonderful but glitches are annoying. Computers teach patience. Oh boy do they! LOL! Have a good day.
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Comment #99 posted by Marc Paquette on April 01, 2004 at 15:07:33 PT:
No problem bud
Hey FoM..no problem and in the meantime, your'e ALL invited to check on my web site for ALL the news you missed since the last 2 days! There's ALOT to read!Thanks for the info and take care bro! Hope your'e back soon!Marc
http://www.medpot.net
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Comment #98 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 15:00:59 PT
Marc
I have news ready to post but Matt Elrod hasn't gotten back with me so I don't know why the web form is broken. I wish I knew. I've been doing news for years now and I feel lost not doing any. I will get news posted as soon as the web site is fixed.
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Comment #97 posted by Marc Paquette on April 01, 2004 at 14:56:31 PT:
Thanks Bud :o)
Thanks for the compliments FoM..I work very hard. What happened to your Newshawk..no news since 2 days. Holidays?
In fact, today is pretty busy for Cannabis News in North America. I have 14 stories for Canada, 22 for America, 2 for UK and 4 for other countries. From early in the morning (before sunrise) I search for ALL kinds of Cannabis News everywhere I can find them in many North American newspapers, tv and radio stations, and other search engines all over the net. We ALL help each other in this great Cannabis media chain.Peac bud and have a good evening!Marc
http://www.medpot.net
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Comment #96 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 14:37:36 PT
Marc
That's funny! You have a very nice message board. Keep up the good work you are doing. I really enjoying reading the CCC list. I don't understand most of it but it's nice to read.
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Comment #94 posted by The GCW on April 01, 2004 at 14:19:28 PT
Why it was Amendment 20, in Colorado.
"Medical Marijuana Proponents Point To Colorado Program"And the Colorado program is based on the Oregon program...420 Election style...In the 2000 Colorado election, this was known as Amendment 20 and some people were saying: vote 4-20 or 4:20.There is a whole big scam story as to why this was on the ballot as Amendment 20. In short, it was because Victoria Buckley (The petition vote counter / Secretary of State???) died (!!!) with a bunch of hidden UNcounted petitions in her office that were found after She denied the Amendment to be on the ballot, but too late to remove it from the actual ballot. Originally it was on as Amendment 19, and in the voter handbook and on the ballots... but it didn't count. She was sued to recount since She refused and then after another recount still siad the petition was short... then died. The state investigated and found dirt and put it on the very next election with out having to go through the petition process again... So it went from Amendment 19 to 20.Christ God Our Father decides when We come and go.I never thought it was an accident that this ugly mess turned people to vote 4:20, by the will of The Ecologician.Colorado voted 4:20.
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Comment #93 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 13:48:50 PT
News Brief from NBC30.com
Medical Marijuana Proponents Point To Colorado ProgramColorado Law Passed In November 2000April 1, 2004HARTFORD, Conn. -- Proponents of legalizing marijuana for medical purposes pointed Thursday to a Colorado program they said should be mirrored in Connecticut.
MEDICAL MARIJUANA: Should It Be Legal? Vote Here: http://www.nbc30.com/health/2968002/detail.htmlUnder the Colorado law, passed in November 2000, marijuana can be used to alleviate certain debilitating medical conditions such as cancer, glaucoma, HIV/AIDS, severe pain and multiple sclerosis. The patient or a primary caregiver is issued a Medical Marijuana Registry Identification card, which allows them to grow no more than six marijuana plants for personal use."The program is a real powerful thing for patients and a real compassionate thing the Colorado voters did," said Gail Kelsey, administrator of the Colorado program. She appeared at the Legislative Office Building for a news conference, backing the bill before the Connecticut legislature. More than 400 people participate in Colorado's program.Connecticut's proposal would allow a physician to provide a written certification, qualifying patients to use marijuana for medical purposes. The bill passed in the Public Health Committee and currently awaits further action in the Legislature.Last year, the bill was narrowly defeated on the floor of the House of Representatives. Proponents said they are hopeful the legislation will make to the floor again and will pass."This legislation is meant to protect the seriously ill from being prosecuted for following a doctor's recommendation," said Rep. Penny Bacchiochi, R-Somers, who spoke on the House floor last year about how her late husband used marijuana to combat the incapacitating nausea he experienced from treatment for terminal bone cancer."It is a compassionate law that will allow patients to improve the quality of their lives," she said. "It is time for Connecticut to join the eight other states that have implemented workable medical marijuana laws."For the latest news, stay tuned to NBC 30 Connecticut News and NBC30.com
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Comment #92 posted by fearfull on April 01, 2004 at 13:40:29 PT
drfistusa
Years ago I joined a church out of Cali called "The Church of The Tree of Life" They claimed as sacraments salvia, syrian rue, San Pedro cactus, and all items listed in the book Legal Highs. Over the years I have tried many of these sacraments, some with great success and others with little or no success. Syrian Rue was a non success for me, however it has been found that syrian rue can make DMT active orally. That is to say you can eat it and not have to smoke it. I think this is the traditional way the harmala alkyloids are used in the Amazon. DMT is found in many plants throughout the world, including grasses that grow natively in the US. DMT is also found in the human brain! I would like to see tham try to enforce zero tolerance on it. Well, we'll just to chop off everybody's heads.
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Comment #91 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 13:05:09 PT
BigDawg
I agree with you. We are a great group of people here on CNews. Sometimes we irritate each other but we don't fight with each other. When you can keep a board relatively peaceful when the going gets tough we do stand. Thanks!
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Comment #90 posted by BigDawg on April 01, 2004 at 12:51:58 PT
Gotta admit
I have not been checking in at Cnews any less.Just goes to show that the community and communication is as important as the news.Kudos to all...
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Comment #89 posted by drfistusa on April 01, 2004 at 12:49:27 PT
salvia?? but how about syrian rue ?
I know the scythians used plenty of cannabis and burined the dead with it. They also used what we call syrian rue, I am wondering if any one has ever tried it! The Scythians knew what they were doing about everything else!
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Comment #88 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 12:47:27 PT
News Brief from North Coast Journal
NEW POT BILL: April 1, 2004There's a new medical marijuana bill working its way through the state Legislature. Senate Bill 1494, sponsored by medical marijuana champion Sen. John Vasconcellos (D-San Jose), would amend last year's medical marijuana legislation (SB 420) to ensure that patients who choose not to sign up for a voluntary statewide patient ID card program may still use marijuana for medical purposes. SB 420 required patients to choose "primary caregivers" -- people who provide them with marijuana -- that live within the same city or county; the new bill would also allow caregivers that live within 25 miles of the patient, which may be helpful to those living near a county line.http://www.northcoastjournal.com/040104/news0401.html
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Comment #87 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 12:10:13 PT
Thanks Dankhank
That was nice of you. Yes this is an amazing thread. That makes me happy.
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Comment #86 posted by Dankhank on April 01, 2004 at 11:58:24 PT
Been away ...
from the internet for a couple of days and returned to see this amazing thread.Kudu's to all who post here ... a wealth of information is available on this site even when news is slow for any reason. My congressman, who replaced ... wow, I forgot his name ... uh ... damn I had to go to my site to get his name ... oh yea ... J C Watts ... is now Tom Cole, and is having a town meeting in the next town over.I wonder if he thinks this is far enough away that he won't see me? Not.BTW, FOM, I now include the logo from top/left of this page on the covers I produce for the CDs I disseminate. I'm sure that it will only increase traffic, the more the merrier.Thanx agin all, for a truly inspiring site.
Hemp N Stuff
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Comment #85 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 11:50:18 PT
Okay maybe that window has closed
Another dispensary approved at town hall...That's a brick coming out of the Berlin Wall.
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Comment #84 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 11:44:23 PT
Good News
Commission Approves Marijuana DispensaryBy Advocate StaffApril 1, 2004The Fort Bragg Planning Commission approved, with some modifications, a use permit application by Richard Evans Jr., to authorize a medical marijuana clinic and dispensary at 1240 N. Main St., #2A.According to commission staff reports, the dispensary would occupy a space of around 1,000 square feet, sharing the building with an associated doctor's office, a hydroponic garden supply business, and a metal fabrication shop."The primary issues associated with the establishment of the medical marijuana clinic are neighborhood image and public safety," said staff reports. "Increased calls for law enforcement related to loitering, vandalism, theft and so on could negatively impact the neighborhood." Staff went on to say that while they have no precedent with which to compare the issue, its recommendation was to approve the use permit, conditionally. A performance review by the commission would take place after three months of its opening, or as deemed appropriate by the police chief, commission, or community development director. Amendments to the permit included the installation of a security system on site, and that marijuana shall not be used on the site. Patients shall show a medicinal marijuana ID card issued by the Sheriff's Department, or a prescription from a medical doctor. Violation of the requirements or a performance review showing negative impacts to the neighborhood may result in proceedings by the commission to revoke the use permit.Commissioners also approved a site and architectural review for Mark Anderson, to authorize the installation of a new roof on an existing building at 128 E. Laurel St.http://www.advocate-news.com/Stories/0,1413,95~3977~2056093,00.html
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Comment #83 posted by cloud7 on April 01, 2004 at 11:18:12 PT
fearfull
Yeah, I know. When I read the title of the NORML email, my heart skipped a beat before harsh reality set in . Just thought my fellow cnewsers might enjoy it. It really would be hard to imagine. I was reading a biography of George Washington Carver (I think) online and he talked about how when all the slaves were freed in the south it didnt seem real. They had to walk to the next city and leave the plantation for it to set in. I imagine it will be similar when we're freed. Until we purchase and blaze a fat, stinking joint without any fear, I dont think it will seem real.
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Comment #82 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 11:14:09 PT
An alternative future
Bush orders "protective detention" for American potheadsAdministration spokesman insists "These are not concentration camps, nobody has said that word. These special facilities are just a new out of the box strategy for striking a decisive victory in the War on Drugs and protecting the world from a known weapon of mass destruction."Federal troops were dispersed in major cities to hand out advanced marijuana detection technology to the National Guard and local police and sheriffs."These potheads, they can't hide any more, thanks to developments in science," said cannabinoid detection specialist S.S. Hoe. "The war on drugs looks winnable at last."
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Comment #81 posted by fearfull on April 01, 2004 at 10:39:25 PT
cloud_7
Your little "joke" moved me to tears thinking about that wonderfull day, and if it will ever come to be. Can you even imagine...?
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Comment #80 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 10:33:57 PT
Oops Sorry
It was 3,237,000 hits. Close to what I posted.
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Comment #79 posted by FoM on April 01, 2004 at 10:29:28 PT
Just a Note
I figured that you all know the web form still isn't working. I haven't heard anything from Matt Elrod so I really don't know why it isn't working. Good news is for the Month of March we had over 3,250,000 hits! I'll get stories up as soon as I can! Sorry everyone.
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Comment #78 posted by cloud7 on April 01, 2004 at 09:43:33 PT
!!!!!!!
President Bush Legalizes Marijuana In America
Historic Executive Order to Take Effect on April 20April 1, 2004Washington, DC: In a move that astonished conservatives and liberals
alike, President George W. Bush issued a surprise executive order today
legalizing the possession and sale of marijuana in the United States. The
order will take effect on April 20, long considered marijuana smokers'
independence day.When asked about the sudden change of heart, President Bush explained;
"The other night Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell and I were in the war room
mulling over how to sway public opinion on the war in Iraq. We were stuck
in the same rut of tired old ideas and were in desperate need of creative
new ways of thinking. That's when Karl Rove pulled out a fatty." While
Bush admitted that it had been 30 years since his last toke, he figured,
"Why not. I am the President. What can they do, arrest me?"President Bush made the announcement in his weekly radio address, saying
that it's "high time" we reformed our marijuana policies. "The reality
is," said the President, "marijuana is far less dangerous than alcohol or
tobacco and far too many people have had their lives ruined after being
arrested for nothing more than a doobie. Besides, my Pink Floyd records
haven't sounded this good since my days at Yale. Boy, those were some
good times."Newly appointed Drug Czar Keith Stroup hailed the move as a great step
forward for America. "For 33 years NORML has worked to show that
marijuana smokers are no different than the average American. Thankfully
we finally have a president who has come to his senses on this issue,
albeit with a little help from his old friend Mary Jane." Stroup went on
to announce that his first move as Drug Czar will be to free all marijuana
smokers currently incarcerated, and to form a commission to study
reparations for all former marijuana prisoners. He also outlined the
newest ONDCP ad campaign, "Don't Bogart That Joint," featuring the newly
reunited Cheech and Chong. The campaign is designated to promote civility
and sharing amongst cannabis consumers.Of course, not everyone was thrilled about the President's sudden change
of heart. Sue Rusche, over-protective soccer mom and founder of National
Families in Action, lashed out at the president from behind her bottle of
valium saying that the President's decision would send the wrong message
to children. Former Drug Czar Bill Bennett, when questioned about the
executive order outside of the Sands Casino in Las Vegas, could only
mutter, "I need a cigarette."Meanwhile, Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN), author of the Higher Education Act
Drug Provision that has denied federal financial aid to over 140,000
students with drug convictions, nearly broke into tears upon hearing the
announcement. "My children are near college age and now they may never
receive a college education," stated Souder in an impromptu press
conference with former ONDCP Director John Walters. "There is no way I
will risk sending my kids to school with a bunch of pot smoking hippies."
John Walters, looking overly mellow for a man having just lost his job,
simply passed a blunt and replied, "Just hit this Mark. You need to
loosen up. You're starting to harsh my buzz."Meanwhile marijuana smokers nationwide took to the streets to celebrate
their newfound freedom. A haze of sweet smelling sativa smoke wafted over
the nation's capitol as Americans of all walks of life flooded Washington,
DC for the first ever legal smoke-in. The gathering featured over a
million people, without a single arrest. "This is the best day of my
life," said local hot dog vendor Joe Giamatti, "I ran out of hot dogs two
hours ago and now they're buying up all the buns. Thank you President
Bush!"In the wake of Bush's executive order, NORML's Board of Directors issued a
statement announcing that the organization will gladly go out of business
effective April 20. "It took 33 years," said the statement "but our work
here is finally done. Our staff can finally go home and get baked in
peace."For more information, have a happy April Fools Day. To help make the
above scenario a reality, join NORML today at www.norml.org.
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Comment #77 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 09:33:53 PT
Gary Johnson hit the nail on the head
I think Gary Johnson is a genius at selecting words.Trite, simplistic and sentimental -- those three words characterize Kerry's understanding of the WOD as evidenced by his stand on the HEA.Prosecutorial overcharging, and the swelling home grow movement, has erased any firm reliable material, moral or economic boundary between people convicted of possession and people convicted of "drug dealing".Kerry's position shows that his team is not informed on this issue in any real deep way.
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Comment #76 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 09:27:03 PT
Trite and simplistic yes
Kerry's promise to rescrind the HEA for people convicted of possession but not for "drug dealing" shows that his understanding of the war on drugs is at the trite and simplistic stage.He is not aware for example that a prosecutor can obtain a conviction for trafficking if a marijuana grower has a box of baggies in the same house as a marijuana plant.Or if three people are sitting around smoking pot and they get busted, the one person who owns up to the bag could be charged with supplying marijuana to the other two.I'm afraid trite and simplistic is what lies ahead.Kerry's trite and simplistic vs. Bush's calculated brutalityHelp Mr. Wizard! Help!
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Comment #75 posted by jose melendez on April 01, 2004 at 09:19:32 PT
Pabulum, September 10 and unlawful restraints
A. I do not fully understand from any definition on the net what 'pabulum' means in this context, except maybe that Johnson, whose September 10, 2001 debate win* against then D.E.A. Administrator Asa Hutchinson about marijuana laws WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST NEWS OF THE FOLLOWING DAY**, is claiming that Richardson would tend to increase ineffective and irresponsible drug enforcement efforts, as with gasoline and fire? (thank you, David Bowie, for the awesome background mental music image.) I've actually been lurking the thread hoping someone else would ask or mention the word, and what it really means as stated here.from http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/pabulumpab´u`lumn.
1.
The means of nutriment to animals or plants; food; nourishment.2.
That which feeds or sustains, such as fuel for a fire;3.
Trite or simplistic writing, sentiments, etc.; pablum{3}.http://dict.die.net/pabulum/pabulum
n 1: any substance that can be used as food [syn: comestible, edible,
eatable, victual, victuals]
2: insipid intellectual nourishmentSource: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
Pabulum \Pab"u*lum\, n. [L., akin to pascere to pasture. See
Pastor.]
The means of nutriment to animals or plants; food;
nourishment; hence, that which feeds or sustains, as fuel for
a fire; that upon which the mind or soul is nourished; as,
intellectual pabulum.B. I am of the opinion that Rand Beers and John Kerry should bring up drug war crimes as an election issue, Beers can do a mea culpa and concede such conflicts of interest have resulted in increased proliferation, homicide rates and societal harm, and Kerry can announce that he's always been in favor of busting the lying crooks that his Iran-Contra hearings nearly exposed, and end by asking Dennis Kucinich to take over at D.E.A..C. Also, today April 1, 2004 I did send the following email:From: Jose Melendez (snip)
Date: Thu Apr 1, 2004 11:01:12 AM US/Eastern
To: newcase.atr usdoj.gov
Subject: new case queryAntitrust Division - New Case Unit
601 D Street NW, Suite 10107
Washington, DC 20530 1 April, 2004Gentlemen and Ladies,I am at the storyboard stages of a short documentary film about the experiences of a whistle blower who correctly determines and exposes many dozens of years of systemic price fixing and collusion in the the drug enforcement, asset forfeiture and incarceration industries.Please reply via email or (preferably) U.S. mail with specific procedures and hints normally offered to a credible witness that will almost certainly face repercussions, even from some within your own agency.Also, a list of the antitrust cases specifically addressing unlawful restraints of trade would be very helpful in developing a more accurate script.Thank you kindly,(snipped)Disclaimer: Anyone offended, incensed or dependent on above multi-billion dollar industries, please at least note the date that the email was sent.- Grin. D. Finally, I found the following on the Department of "Justice" server:from:http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/div_stats/9142.htmMost states have antitrust laws, and so does the federal government. Essentially, these laws prohibit business practices that unreasonably deprive consumers of the benefits of competition, resulting in higher prices for inferior products and services. ----
wage peace,
jm---------------------- *from: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10890.shtml"The law is a master teacher that guides conduct in this country," Asa Hutchinson, September 10, 2001**from: http://www.thecannabistimes.com/At the meeting of the American Academy of Pain Management http://www.aapainmanage.org/ on September 10, GW Pharmaceuticals http://www.gwpharm.com, developer of the under-the-tongue cannabis spray, reported that one clinical trial has resulted in 41of 53 (77%) chronic pain patients showing "clinically significant therapeutic benefit" from using the cannabis spray.
Subjects reported both pain and symptom relief and also better sleep. Side effects were said to be "predictable and well tolerated". Those patients who found the side effects uncomfortable were generally able to control dosage with the cannabis spray. Considering that England's Medicines Control Agency (equal to the U.S. Food & Drug Administration) recently approved the continued use of the spray from a period of 1 year to 2 years, all 41 patients chose to continue using the spray.from: http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=C06D41B0-7709-42F6-BA3AA3A9E255E757Interview with Undersecretary of Homeland Security Asa Hutchinson
Jim Bertel
Washington
20 Mar 2004, 12:21 UTC
(snip)JIM BERTEL: I'd like to change direction now and talk about several initiatives that you've been involved with at the Department of Homeland Security. This week you announced a new effort to improve security along the border between the United States and Mexico. Is this to prevent illegal immigrants from entering or is this a move against terrorists and drug trafficking? ASA HUTCHINSON: "Well, our responsibility is not just to protect our borders from terrorists. That obviously is the highest priority for us - to keep America safe - but we also have a responsibility to assure the integrity of our immigration system and that our laws are enforced.--------E. Note: Right. Asa means hemp: http://Taima.org/en/main.htm
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Comment #74 posted by E_Johnson on April 01, 2004 at 08:36:20 PT
Or...
"When it comes to Salvia, we're all Neil Armstrongs.
"Or the various Shuttle astronauts who are now solar system dust.
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Comment #73 posted by goneposthole on April 01, 2004 at 07:15:45 PT
absinthe
You are correct about the liquor. But I have always referred to wormwood as absinthe or absinth.
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Comment #72 posted by goneposthole on April 01, 2004 at 07:03:25 PT
Artemisia absinthium
The botanical name for the plant. A member of the compositae family.http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/w/wormwo37.html'After some time' is how the words should have read.
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Comment #71 posted by TroutMask on April 01, 2004 at 06:42:46 PT
Absinthe is a liquor. Wormwood is the ingredient.
No?Salvis D is not for everyone. I'd go further and say it's not for most people. If you have no problem suddenly finding yourself existing as a chair, maybe you'll like it.-TM
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Comment #70 posted by goneposthole on April 01, 2004 at 06:24:52 PT
absinthe
If the prohibitionists wiped out absinthe, the did a very poor job around the countryside where I live.The stuff grows everywhere.I read once in a magazine (I won;t say which magazine) about a person who used absinthe in a liqueur. After sometime of use, he couldn't recognize his own image in a mirror. I would stay away from absinthe.Absinthe, ingested, will cause a fetus to abort. It is a noxious weed. Very bitter taste.
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Comment #69 posted by kaptinemo on April 01, 2004 at 04:01:56 PT:
A word about Salvia: Caution
Because you are venturing into (physiologically) unknown territory.Yes, I've tried it, and yes, I've tripped on it.And no, I'm NOT using it again until I see some medical studies, because I subjectively experienced what I believe to be hypertensive events (elevated blood pressure) under the influence. Having had a hypertensive event courtesy of a dosage imbalance of a pharmaceutical while in normal consciousness, I experienced roughly the same effects. A friend of mine, a much more experienced psychonaut than I am, reported the same. Neither of us will use it again until we hear more.I'm all for sensible, responsible experimentation; I've been a willing lab rat for some very unusual technologies. But I went into the chamber with the knowledge that very wise and capable people were on the other end of the telemetry, and they were ready for just about any problem.To my knowledge, no one has devised any protocols or safety nets regarding Salvia. That Salvia might be good, even *necessary*, for some, I've no doubt. But taking it every day? You may be playing chemical Russian roulette with your gray matters. Simply because we don't know enough about it.When it comes to Salvia, we're all Neil Armstrongs.
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Comment #68 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 22:33:26 PT
Mistake
The title is Don't Beleaf It. Oops sorry!
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Comment #67 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 22:29:27 PT
Article from Now Magazine on Salvia
Don't Belief ItAPR 1 - 7, 2004http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2004-04-01/news_feature.php
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Comment #66 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 22:24:57 PT
Editorial from The Orlando Sentinel
A New Front on Drug WarOur position: Now it's Canada that has become a menace in the fight against illegal drugs.March 31, 2004
The U.S. fight against illegal drugs has had notable success recently in Colombia and Mexico. Now, an unlikely country has begun to fill the gap: Canada.U.S. "drug czar" John Walters says Canadian marijuana is exploding in popularity because it contains 20 to 30 percent THC -- the substance that provides a buzz. That's three to five times stronger than most pot sold on the street.High-potency Canadian pot reportedly trades 1-to-1 for cocaine in California.In Canada, the Asian mob and motorcycle gangs provide muscle for the trade. Indoor farmers use lamps and heaters to create a suitable climate. It gives new meaning to "home gardening," not to mention a new stereotype for "drug lords." And it shows the war on drugs never ends. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-edped313033104mar31,1,4674889.story
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Comment #65 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 22:10:31 PT
Commerce clause and fat on Fox
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115804,00.html
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Comment #64 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 21:47:07 PT
News Brief from KXLY.com
County Has New Weapon to Fight Drugs
March 31, 2004
The Spokane County Sheriff's Office has a new weapon in the war on drugs, an airplane.The aircraft is a 1951 Beachcraft Bonanza, seized during a drug bust at the Deer Park Airport almost two years ago. Its former owner used it to fly marijuana from Canada to the U.S. until local and federal authorities caught on to his routine. John Edgar is now serving a prison sentence in Oregon, and through drug seizure laws, Spokane County paid just $635 for the plane. It would normally sell for anywhere from $30,000 to $40,000. http://www.kxly.com/common/getStory.asp?id=35502
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Comment #63 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 21:34:44 PT
A Note and a Big Thank You
It has been a very long day. I still haven't received an email about what could be wrong and I'm really sorry for the inconvience. I'll catch up with the news when I can and I'll let you all know what happened when I find out. Now I want to say a few words about all of the people who care for CNews. I think the world of you. Thank you for staying close today and posting. That makes it not feel empty like it would have if no one bothered to comment. We are a very special community of very smart and kind people and I value each and everyone of you more then you could possibly know. It's a pleasure getting to know all of you. Thanks again!
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Comment #62 posted by Virgil on March 31, 2004 at 20:43:01 PT
ekim- prohibitionists destroyed Chernobyl
I am sure EJ and others will enjoy the website that presents Chernobyl in a very unique way. It was the website of the day at CounterPunch a few days ago and it was fascinating to me and a terrific display of the Power of 1.Chernobyl means wormwood or absinth. The absinth prohibitionists decided it was time to get tough on the absinth culture and eradicate it from the face of the earth once and for all.
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Comment #61 posted by ekim on March 31, 2004 at 20:04:49 PT
a sober look back 18 years on April 26
Here's an interesting site about chernobyl with cool pictures.http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/
http://www.mmdetroit.org
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Comment #60 posted by afterburner on March 31, 2004 at 20:04:26 PT:
Loretta Nall Takes Truth to ONDCP Summit
ONDCP STUDENT DRUG TESTING SUMMIT RECAP "Myself, Erin Hildebrandt from Parents Ending Prohibition, and Lennice Werth of Virginian’s Against Drug Violence attended the ONDCP’s Regional Drug Testing Summit in Atlanta, Georgia on March 25, 2004. Other reformers who made this event were Clifton Ingram of the North Carolina Marijuana Party, Viany Orozzoco from the Drug Policy Alliance (she came all the way from California and she did an incredible job of grilling whoever happened to be lying at the moment.) Mark Bonner, director of Dance Safe in Atlanta and another young guy who I never got the chance to speak to or find out who he was representing. I would say the total attendance of the conference was 60-70 people and our group of 8 had a very powerful presence. Everyone of us asked or submitted questions and passed out our literature, some of us got a chance to talk to the media."
--snipped
Loretta's nametag
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Comment #59 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 19:19:59 PT
ekim
That's right tomorrow is April Fool's Day. That's always a strange day. You have no idea what to believe.
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Comment #58 posted by ekim on March 31, 2004 at 18:52:56 PT
a little early for April fools day FoM:)
http://www.leap.cc/events/events.php
Apr 1 04 Fort Pierce Rotary 12:00 PM Eleanor Schockett Fort Pierce Florida USA
The Fort Pierce Rotary welcomes Board Member Judge Eleanor Schockett to discuss the failed war on drugs and its impact on the world. Apr 1 04 "Breaking the Chains" 08:00 AM Bob Owens Houston Texas USA
Speaker Bob Owens attends the "Breaking the Chains" conference sponsored by the Drug Policy Alliance. Apr 2 04 "Breaking the Chains" 08:00 AM Bob Owens Houston Texas USA
Speaker Bob Owens attends the final day of the "Breaking the Chains" conference sponsored by the Drug Policy Alliance. Thursday, April 1
http://www.kucinich.us/schedule.php
Washington, District of Columbia
Congressional Business
3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.
CNN's Inside Politics with Judy WoodruffEastern Time
http://www.hashbash.com
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 18:51:42 PT
Off Topic But Might Be Interesting
I really like Yahoo for email but I'll try Google's new email since I really like Google for searching the Net. Google to Test E-Mail in Challenge to RivalsWed Mar 31, 2004 http://www.gmail.com/http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=4718913§ion=news
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Comment #56 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 18:32:07 PT
Kerry just had shoulder surgery
So he's got pain relief issues now.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 17:53:09 PT
News Article About Vermont MMJ from WCAX TV
Vermont House Votes to Study Prescription Pot
Montpelier, Vermont - March 31, 2004The use of medical marijuana as a pain reliever was debated today in Montpelier.The Vermont House endorsed a provision that will allow medical professionals to study the pros and cons of the medical marijuana as a pain reliever. The bill does not legalize the drugs use but it was a victory of those who believe marijuana can ease chronic pain. "We are training our medical healthcare professionals providers in pain management we should make sure they are well trained if they are going to practice in Vermont or one of those other nine states in the use of medical marijuana," says Rep. David Zuckerman, P-Burlington. "There is an intense need for improvements in pain and pain management outside of what benefits marijuana may or may not provide. I would urge the body to reject this amendment and allow the committee to focus on a wider spectrum of issues. We will overshadow this committee with marijuana if this amendment is approved," says Rep. David Sunderland, R-Rutland Town. The amendment passed 79 to 57. The vote was not along party lines. http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=1753371&nav=4QcSLxPh
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 17:40:55 PT
I Thought I Should Post This Now
Medical Marijuana Advocate To Confront Chief Opponent at House Hearing Thursday
March 31, 2004For Immediate Release Washington -- Rob Kampia, executive director of the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project, will testify on Thursday at a hearing of the House subcommittee whose chairman called him "an articulate advocate for an evil position" at their last such encounter, in March 2001. Kampia and MPP Director of Government Relations Steve Fox will be available for interviews before and after Kampia's testimony.The hearing of the Criminal Justice, Drug Policy, and Human Resources Subcommittee, scheduled for 2:00 p.m. EST, is titled "Marijuana and Medicine: The Need for a Science-Based Approach."Subcommittee Chairman Mark Souder (R-IN) is one of the House's most vehement opponents of medical marijuana. In remarks prepared for the hearing, Kampia castigates Souder for his long history of ignoring scientific findings on medical marijuana: "Last year, during a debate on the House floor, Chairman Souder said, `[Marijuana] does not help sick people. ... There are no generally recognized health benefits to smoking marijuana.' Chairman Souder could not be more wrong. ... I hope that he eventually abandons his reliance on myths and lies and embraces an approach based on science."Kampia will also address the multiple ways in which current federal policies continue to obstruct and delay scientific research into the medical uses of marijuana.WHAT: Hearing of the Criminal Justice, Drug Policy, and Human Resources Subcommittee, "Marijuana and Medicine: The Need for a Science-Based Approach."WHO: MPP Executive Director Rob Kampia and other invited speakers. These are expected to include representatives of the Drug Enforcement Administration and the National Institute on Drug Abuse.WHEN: Thursday, April 1, 2004, 2:00 p.m. ESTWHERE: Room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building
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Comment #53 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 17:23:03 PT
Another article waiting to be posted
RAND BEERS LEAVES KERRY CAMPAIGNToday the Kerry campaign announced that Rand Beers was leaving "to pursue other matters".It wasn't known why he was leaving the campaign but antidrug activist Joyce Nalepka offered a theory that "it was because they said mean things about him on Cannabis News."
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 17:18:21 PT
EJ That Would Make Me Very Happy
That would make my day even if I can't post it!
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 17:15:24 PT
EJ Let's See
From Fertility to Wamm to Don Nord to forfeiture laws to how to grow plants and a few more. There nice a tidy and ready to go with all the copyright stuff and links. Hopefully the form will be fixed soon. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I mind letting people down and I feel like I am when I can't get news posted promptly.
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Comment #50 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 17:12:38 PT
The news FoM can't post yet
While the form was broken, marijuana was legalized all over the world.WORLD LEADERS ANNOUNCE WAR ON POT IS OVERJubilant potheads lit up across the world as world leaders gathered today to announce that they've given up trying to pound them into submission using guns and prisons and denial of basics rights and liberties like education, employment and health care, and are willing to finally admit they're really human beings after all.
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Comment #49 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 17:09:35 PT
Any hints FoM?
Just call me Curiosity Jones.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 17:07:16 PT
JSM
I've been waiting to hear back from Matt Elrod because something is wrong with the form I use to post articles. I'm setting up articles and will post all of them when it is fixed. There are a few good articles to read when I can get them posted. Sorry for the problem.
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Comment #47 posted by JSM on March 31, 2004 at 16:58:29 PT
Recent Articles
FOM, I am missing seeing new articles being posted, but on the other hand it is great to just be able to read the ongoing conversations. It is easy to see that the real attraction for this site is really not articles, it is the comments. Thanks to everyone that posts here on a regular basis.
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Comment #46 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 16:42:18 PT
In other words one out of six should sue
They raided 24 homes and found marijuana in only 20?That's supposed to be acceptable?That's a one out of six failure rate for their search warrant.What kind of judge gives a search warrant for data that's wrong one out of every six times?Why don't we just have random pot searches, if this is acceptable?
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Comment #45 posted by Virgil on March 31, 2004 at 16:41:00 PT
What is
I read where there were two legal medicines using cannabinoids in Canada. Today I found out the second one besides Marinol in this CR: 27. At the present time, two forms of T.H.C. are
available throughout Canada by prescription, i.e., Marinol
(a synthetic form of T.H.C.) and Cesamet (a T.H.C.
analogue.) at Medpot at Yahoo- http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/1119Now that answer raises the questions on the definition of a THC analogue and what is with all the periods in T.H.C.
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 16:27:26 PT
Cops Review Drug Raid Prompted By Power Bill
No Drugs Found In Home March 31, 2004Utility Bill Prompts Drug Raid
Video: FeedRoom: http://cf.nbcsandiego.com/dgo/sh/videoplayer/video.cfm?id=2952947&owner=dgo CARLSBAD, Calif. -- Police will conduct an internal investigation into a raid at a home that was searched for marijuana because of a high electricity bill. No drugs were found.Police Chief Thomas Zoll said Tuesday the department will review procedures that led to the March 19 to ensure similar incidents don't occur again. Officers raided the home of Dina Dagy and her family because records indicated the family used three times more electricity than their neighbors.Dagy attributed her high power bill to her three children, four ceiling fans, three computers, two to three daily loads of laundry and one to two daily dishwasher cycles.High electricity bills often indicate that residents are using lamps to grow marijuana indoors, police said. The Dagy house was also targeted because a drug-sniffing dog responded to the home and the family put its trash out later than neighbors, which can indicate suspicious activity, police said.Police raided 24 other homes the same day. They found marijuana in 20 homes and arrested 24 people.The internal investigation is expected to take one to two weeks.Related Article: High Power Bill Spawns Drug Probe:
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18551.shtml
Cops Review Drug Raid Prompted By Power Bill
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Comment #43 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 15:38:54 PT
kaptinemo, the Barretts will heat up the summer
The Barretts go on trial Aug.31, in the middle of the RepubCon.
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Comment #42 posted by kaptinemo on March 31, 2004 at 15:34:09 PT:
The Sleeping Giant is almost awake
I keep mentioning it, and here's the proof: a State (and a national) election could be decided on an MMJ matter. Which the overwhelming number of the electorate support. And the antis could find out just how unpopular they are in the process.It takes a while, but the Right Coast eventually catches up to the Left. First Maryland, now Vermont. And this can't do anything but help the Granite Staters in their efforts, due to proximity.I see a very warm Spring turning into a roasting Summer...
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Comment #41 posted by cloud7 on March 31, 2004 at 15:10:22 PT
kaptinemo
Interesting coincidence? Fox news has a story up about a major ecstacy crackdown.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115778,00.html
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 14:10:13 PT
goneposthole
You're too much! LOL!
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 14:09:16 PT
Interesting News Article About Vermont and MMJ
Douglas' Pot ProblemBy Peter FreyneWeekly — Published March 31, 2004A just-released Zogby International Poll sponsored by the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project — www.mpp.org — shows incredibly strong support among Vermonters for passage of medical marijuana legislation this year.According to the statewide poll, 71 percent support allowing the sick and dying to legally benefit from the medicinal properties of cannabis.The telephone poll of 502 randomly selected Vermonters was conducted March 19-22 by Zogby, one of the nation’s most respected polling outfits. Last year, a medical marijuana bill easily swept through the Vermont Senate on a 22-7 bipartisan vote. Five Republicans, including the Senate GOP leader, Sen. John Bloomer, and Sens. Phil Scott, Bill Doyle, Dick Greenwood and Rob Ide supported it.As far as we know, none of them has since gone to Hell.Since 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests in America are made under state laws, the Senate believed changing Vermont’s pot law will “have the practical effect of protecting from arrest the vast majority of seriously ill people who have a medical need to use marijuana.” But with the blessing of House Speaker Walter Freed, S.76 has been bottled up in the House Health and Welfare Committee ever since. Given the fact that our straight-arrow Republican governor Jim Douglas strongly opposes the legislation, the House leadership appears intent on never letting it reach the Guv’s desk.Douglas’ Democratic opponent, Burlington Mayor Peter Clavelle, told Seven Days that as governor he’d “sign a medical marijuana bill in a heartbeat.” According to Mayor Moonie, “Vermonters with a life-threatening illness should not face arrest because of an irrational state policy.”Clavelle’s hardly alone. On Town Meeting Day, 82 percent of Queen City voters supported a medical pot advisory question.Rarely, if ever, do 82 percent of the voters support anything. The landslide “yes” vote for the medical marijuana question was enough to change the position of Burlington State Rep. Bill Keogh. However, the moderate Democrat from Burlington’s South End told Seven Days this week, “The bill is not moving at this time.”Rep. Keogh said Tuesday that even with his switch, the vote in the House Health and Welfare Committee “is 6-5 against bringing up the medical marijuana bill.” Statewide, the new Zogby Poll found that 71 percent of Vermonters support legalizing medical marijuana. Broken down by party, the pot bill has the support of 85 percent of Democrats, 78 percent of Independents and 50.3 percent of Republicans. That’s right, a majority of folks who call themselves Republican support medical marijuana!One of the more interesting poll questions: “If Gov. Douglas signs the bill… would you be more or less likely to vote for him, or would this make no difference in your vote?”About two-thirds of those polled said it won’t change their vote for governor. However, 22.5 percent of Democrats said they would be more likely to vote for Jim Douglas if he signed the bill. In a 2004 gubernatorial election that promises to be a squeaker, attracting Democrat defectors has to be a top priority for Jimmy D. That’s because even if every Republican in Vermont votes for him, he’ll still be well short of the 50 percent threshold. Far be it from this writer to give advice to our beloved governor, but, hey, Jimbo, wake up, will ya? It’s the 21st century!If the medical pot bill dies because you oppose it, Clavelle the Democrat will have just one more flaming arrow in his political campaign quiver. Mayor Moonie will paint you as a right-wing, John Ashcroft-style conservative extremist who lacks compassion for the sick and dying. And he’ll have the poll data to prove you’re out of touch with the people of your state. Hello?Signing legislation supported by a majority of Republicans, Democrats and Independents simply does not have a downside. It would show Vermont voters you’re not really a Bush puppet. And it just might get you enough Democrat and Independent votes to experience a second term on the Fifth Floor.P.S. The most interesting question in the Vermont Zogby Poll was the one dealing with public perception. Despite landslide support for legalizing medicinal marijuana, most respondents greatly underestimated the strong support the legislation has among their neighbors. Only 39.5 percent believe the majority of Vermonters support it. And 38.2 percent wrongly think the majority of Vermonters oppose it.As Marijuana Policy Project Communi-cations Director Bruce Mirken put it, “Clearly there’s a divide between perception and reality.”Mirken was hard-pressed to explain why so many people who support medical marijuana think so many of their neighbors do not.“I can only theorize,” Mirken told Seven Days. “I think to some degree it may be a holdover from President Ronald Reagan’s ‘Just Say No’ drug policy in the 1980s.”Interesting, eh? Complete Article: http://www.sevendaysvt.com/insidetrack/
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Comment #38 posted by goneposthole on March 31, 2004 at 14:08:47 PT
420
What to plant in my garden on 4/20?hmmm, let me think...You've planted a seed in my cranium.What to plant on 4/20?Eureka... I've got it!
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 13:37:27 PT
Thanks kapt!
I just sent and email to Mark. Maybe he can help. I sure wish I knew how to fix things. It's way over my head. Thanks for trying!
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Comment #36 posted by kaptinemo on March 31, 2004 at 13:34:53 PT:
FoM, I've already tried to
I went on the DSC about 3 PM today after reading your comment and left a note; he always has the chat open, so he'll see it as soon as he reads it.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 13:23:43 PT
kapt a favor
Could you contact observer and see if he can reach Matt Elrod? I can't post any news. I have about 6 articles to post and am waiting but Matt hasn't gotten back with me about what the problem could be. When I try to go to the web form I use it says Invalid Syntax Error. I don't know what that means and I don't know if I should email Mark Greer or not. Thanks.
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Comment #34 posted by kaptinemo on March 31, 2004 at 13:15:15 PT:
RED ALERT! Lock and load your VCRs!
April 1st, 10 PM EST (7 PM PST, I'm assuming) Peter Jennings on MDMA:
"Ecstasy Rising" Take a look at this:Documenting The Agony Of Ecstasy
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n513/a10.html?1042Since they posted it at MAPINC, I'll repeat it here:DOCUMENTING THE AGONY OF ECSTASY WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- It's taken in dimly lit rave clubs. It's downed on neatly manicured school campuses and used in professional psychotherapy sessions. Ecstasy -- America's illicit drug of choice, a pretty poison that comes in a variety of pill forms emblazoned with everything from the word love to the face of a bunny rabbit. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration estimates that hundreds of millions of Ecstasy pills are taken each year and that about 2 million new users are recruited every year. No other drug -- not heroin, not marijuana, not cocaine -- has ever spread so quickly. To curb its spread, the government has spent millions of dollars making the case that Ecstasy, a mood elevator that produces a relaxed, euphoric state, can cause brain damage and even death. But the government's claims were based on flawed science. The truth is, no one really knows for sure whether Ecstasy has any long-term, negative consequences. Much of what the government touted in its dramatic campaigns had to be retracted later. And that disturbed Peter Jennings. "Government is best when government is most honest, especially for the younger generation, which is more susceptible to trying drugs," says ABC's "World News Tonight" veteran anchor. "If ( young people ) can't rely on the government for good and honest information, then government has lost something enormously valuable, which is people's belief in the government's credibility." As a concerned parent, Jennings wanted to shine a high-profile light on the growing Ecstasy problem and the government's reaction to it by hosting "Primetime Thursday: Peter Jennings Reporting: Ecstasy Rising "( 10 p.m. Thursday ). The one-hour special is an informative look at the little-known history of Ecstasy and the government's failed attempts to stop the drug's massive distribution. "This was an opportunity for us to look at whether or not the government isn't its own worst enemy in trying to control illegal drugs," Jennings says. And is it? "Yes," Jennings replies. "I believe a lot of people in government understood the science ( about Ecstasy's negative side effects ) was not good. But not until real attention was drawn to it did they take down their Web site on Ecstasy." Jennings admits working on the special was educational for him. "I had no idea Ecstasy was as old as it is," he says. "I had no idea that it had been introduced in California through psychotherapy, and I had no idea how effective it seemed to have been for some psychotherapists. I remember one psychologist telling us that one session with a patient on Ecstasy was equal to four years ( of treatment ) with a similar patient." Although practically everyone has heard of Ecstasy, which was made illegal in 1985, most people aren't familiar with the drug's origins. "Ecstasy Rising" serves as a fascinating history lesson. Alexander Shulgin, a famous Dow Chemical chemist, was the first person to report the effects of Ecstasy when he tested the drug on himself in 1976. He called the drug "window," because it was "like looking through a window at the world the way it really is." The special also spotlights Michael Clegg, the millionaire Dallas drug dealer who gave Ecstasy its name and turned it into a recreational drug. Clegg, who spent 14 years studying for the priesthood, was immediately hooked when he took Ecstasy, gushing that it was like being "Moses on the mountaintop." It's comments like Clegg's, however, that nearly undermine Jennings' well-intentioned special. At times, "Ecstasy Rising" comes off as a glossy, late-night infomercial. There are too many happy-faced testimonials from people who have used Ecstasy and are more than willing to tout its benefits. One woman remembers taking the drug for the first time at her 19th birthday party. "We bonded, shared, gave massages. . . . It was the best birthday I've ever had." One recreational user reflects on how popping Ecstasy gave him "2 1/2 hours of complete and utter rest." A woman who was raped in 1983 says she was "broken into 1,000 pieces" after her attack, but Ecstasy saved her life and made her feel whole again. Those aren't exactly the kind of comments teenagers determined to say no to drugs need to hear. Is Jennings concerned that curious young viewers might be more prone to try Ecstasy after watching his special? "It can't be a concern," Jennings says. "Our job is to lay out the facts. Can you imagine a responsible father like myself wanting to do an infomercial on drugs? I want people to look at this program and be arrested by it enough and concerned by it enough to really want to have the facts about one of the most popular drugs in the country." In case you haven't figured it out, the 'agony' will be experienced by the ONDCP.This is a rare treat: an internationally known newsie gets an education by doing actual research beyond lapping up and sh****ng out stale, moldy old ONDCP blather. And what does he find? Not so bad, after all.Now, if ol' Pete would just turn his gaze towards cannabis...
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 13:13:59 PT
EJ That Sounds Nice
I have outside cats so I've given up on flowers. I have one herb that has taken over one side of the house and suffocated my other herbs. The thing that is annoying it's an herb that doesn't even make a pleasant tea. My Lemon Balm and Catmint are gone. I need to start all over again.
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Comment #32 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 13:07:21 PT
I have garden plans too FoM
I'll be planting some old fashioned roses.I'm going to root some cuttings of a Reine des Violettes (Queen ot Violets) and two old climbing roses that have nativized to my region.Plus I'm on a campaign to get rid of every plant that needs motorized maintenance. I foolishly had an English landscaping done many years ago and now I realize what an environmental disaster it is to have ornamental hedges.It's like growing SUVs in the back yard!
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 13:00:08 PT
EJ About 4-20
I haven't even thought about what I'll be doing. I know I'll be mowing by then. The grass is getting very green and it's almost time to get the mower going again.
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Comment #30 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 12:56:18 PT
Here's a good story about Arnold and CA Dems
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CALIFORNIA_PRISONS?SITE=CAWHI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTThe good story is that he is paying active attention to his scandal."At least one legislator says state law and labor contracts may need to be changed to end the code of silence."I absolutely support due process, but we're talking about witnesses here," said Democratic State Sen. Gloria Romero, who plans a hearing on the issue as early as this week. "We're talking about employees of the state of California. We're talking about peace officers."
"We're talking about a brutal armed gang, basically, one that has been granted the blessings of the legal system and the patronage of the previous Democratic governor.It's ironic that the Republican governor is now the one giving the Democratic legislators the power to take some real action on this issue.
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Comment #29 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 12:17:31 PT
On a more positive note
How is everyone celebrating 420?I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone made greeting cards?
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Comment #28 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 11:34:22 PT
goneposthole
"At least the guy said something worth hearing"Well, yes, I do agree it was worth hearing that he wanted to put a loaded gun at my head and steal my medicine and put me in prison.I agree, that was well worth hearing!
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Comment #27 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 11:19:15 PT
Maybe Bush is smarter than I thought
Bush's extremism has traumatized the pot community to the point where people have latched on to a new and radical level of self esteem and assertiveness.Which I think makes it very hard for the Democrats, because all they're mentally prepared to offer the pot community is the kind of compromise that feels self-negating and self-hating to anyone with self esteem.We'll beat on you, but not as hard.If Gore had been able to offer that in 2000, maybe it would have been accepted with some gratitude. But Kerry is trying to offer that now and I am afraid that much of this community is just way way past being able to accept that, emotionally. This community has just seen too much damage to go back to humble self negation. That's the feeling that I am getting from listening to people talk about Kerry.
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Comment #26 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 11:06:11 PT
Maybe he should pick Bob Barr
He could stand up for demilitarizing the police.Adam Schiff, my D-CA rep, is going in the opposite direction.I'm looking for alternatives. He's bad. He's a former USA. He's on the side of Sauron.The Pasadena community doesn't even back him. The Pasadena Star News had an editorial saying end Schedule I. He didn't get the clue. He refuses to get the clue, because his bread is buttered in the LEO community, and they want every harsh law they can get, and they don't want to have to debate anyone or prove anything using science to get it.Right now if I had the choice, I would choose Bob Barr over Adam Schiff.Because Bob Barr will stand up to the LEO lobby and Adam Schiff bends over for them like Gray davis did.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 10:57:16 PT
A Favor
If anyone goes into DrugSense Chat could you tell observer that my web form for CNews to post news isn't working. Matt hasn't gotten back with me and maybe observer can get in touch with him. Thanks!
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Comment #24 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 10:39:36 PT
There was no place for the Hobbitts to run either
They had to stand and fight for Middle Earth.
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Comment #23 posted by fearfull on March 31, 2004 at 10:27:13 PT
The War on Cannabis Culture
What do Hitler, Stalin, Polpot, Idi Amin, and King George (W. Bush) have in common? Attempted genocide. I wish that I could pack up and go someplace where I would not be persecuted, much like my forefathers sought to get away from their King George. It would not bother me if they wanted to ship us all off to some island to get rid of us, as long as they left us alone. Only problem is there is no place left for us to go. Australia is already taken.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 09:44:32 PT
About Kerry
I closed the radio program but it isn't John Kerry but a Kerry that is on the 9-11 commission coming on Air America. They said the programs will be archived so I'll catch it later on.
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Comment #21 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 09:33:49 PT
Has anyone seen the ad for that PBS show?
There's a PBS reality show where they reenact an early American colonial settlement, and they even have the insane Puritan rules they have to follow, like mandatory three hour church services and a whipping post.They showed one woman getting tied to the whipping post and she said, if I have to sit through a three hour church service, I think prefer the whipping post.
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Comment #20 posted by goneposthole on March 31, 2004 at 09:31:12 PT
The Democrats
Is John Kerry really going to be the Democratic presidential candidate?The Republicans couldn't ask for a better choice.They're happy with the Democrats, more than you'll ever know.The Democrats would be well advised to reconsider.There is a better choice out there somewhere.John Kerry probably doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hades to win the election.He might get lucky though.It might be better to employ the Supreme Court to decide who will be the new selection.Your vote counts, unless you live in the US.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 09:30:00 PT
Guests on AirAmerica Radio
John Kerry, Michael Moore and oh my oh my Ann Coulter!
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Comment #18 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 09:29:26 PT
I can't stand this
I want to go to some foreign country and hide until it's time to vote.We're going to have pundits talk about us like we're not even human.Shall we stick guns up their noses and march them off to be raped, or lock them up in Promises with Dr. Drew until they learn to kiss his penny loafers and worship every word he says?
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Comment #17 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 09:18:47 PT
Kerry won't find any short cuts here
This community is ready to demand full human status.Kerry doesn't understand, his team doesn't understand. There's an understanding gap here that could sink him.Maybe he thinks these are still the potheads from the sixties, still too traumatized from Vietnam and the collapse of hippiedom to make a strong political stand for their own humanity.Nobody saw zero tolerance coming back then.Kerry is obviously without a clue and apparently without anyone able to give him one.We're used to damage, he isn't, it will be more his loss than ours, unfortunately.
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Comment #16 posted by E_Johnson on March 31, 2004 at 09:15:08 PT
Politics is a short cut through humanity
As with most short cuts, stuff in the way gets trampled on.With politics, the stuff happens to be humans.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 09:06:57 PT
I Got Air America Radio On Now!
It's working for me! Give it a try!
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 09:03:26 PT
Thanks Virgil
I really want to listen to Air America and will give it a try a little later on! I won't go as far as saying Kerry sucks but he better get with the program and say something that will make us believe in him. Actually politics suck to me! LOL!
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Comment #13 posted by Virgil on March 31, 2004 at 08:49:58 PT
Richardson sucks
Kerry does too, so that will not be a factor. In a lesser of evils contest anyway with various definitions of the word evil.Radio America should start broadcasting at noon and speculation is that Al Franken will do the honors. The AirAmericaRadio.com website will stream after registering I believe, but the server is too busy to get through. Here are some radio stations that will stream the programs and the 620knews is doing fine for me.http://www.620knews.com/listen/index.php http://www.kcaa.homestead.com /http://www.wlib.com Main site:http://www.airamericaradio.com/www/pub/globalDefault.htm
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 31, 2004 at 08:32:09 PT
Just a Note
I have a few articles to post but something is wrong with the web form. I contacted Matt and as soon as the form is fixed I'll post the articles.
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Comment #11 posted by kaptinemo on March 31, 2004 at 08:18:48 PT:
Partially related - and highly recommended
HOW I LOST MY DRUGS WAR
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n510/a04.html?1042It shows very simply and clearly why international drug law reform from the top down has not made much progress. A hint: factual information not wanted, only rabid polemics.
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Comment #10 posted by mamawillie on March 31, 2004 at 07:36:00 PT
Graham got a D-
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE AUGUST 18, 2003 Graham Retreats From Medical Marijuana Position
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE -- Questioned on New Hampshire Public Radio (NHPR) this morning by Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana (GSMM), Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) retreated from his previous statement supporting states' rights, saying he would not immediately end the Bush administration's arrests of medical marijuana patients and providers. During Graham's appearance on NHPR's The Exchange, GSMM campaign coordinator Aaron Houston asked, "On the day you take the oath of office, would you put an immediate end to the DEA [Drug Enforcement Administration] raids on seriously ill people in the states where medical marijuana is allowed?" Graham said, "There are several things I intend to do shortly after I take the oath of office, one of which is to remove John Ashcroft as attorney general. ... Give me a few more hours before I get around to that specific DEA issue." Responding to a follow-up question from the show's host, Laura Knoy, Sen. Graham continued, "I don't think the scientific evidence is there today to justify it, plus ... I think it would be very difficult to enforce your drug laws if you had such a big exception to them." GSMM volunteers later picketed at a Graham campaign event in Manchester, where Graham approached the picketers and reiterated the position he stated on NHPR. Graham's statements today are a departure from his previous pledge to defer to states that protect medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. When questioned at a July 3, 2003, campaign stop in New Hampshire, Graham stated that he did not support federal legislation to allow seriously ill people to use medical marijuana with their doctors' approval -- but said he would let states decide for themselves. "If a state, like Oregon, has said that this, their judgment, is appropriate ... although I would disagree with it, I would defer to the state judgment," Graham said. Houston commented, "Senator Graham seemed to retreat from his pledge to defer to states that protect patients from arrest and prison for the simple act of taking their medicine. Does Sen. Graham really need `a few more hours' in the Oval Office to decide that thrusting automatic assault rifles at the heads of seriously ill medical marijuana patients is wrong?" Based in Manchester, New Hampshire, Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana is a grassroots coalition of patients and activists. GSMM is organizing during the New Hampshire presidential primary campaign to raise awareness of the need for federal action to protect medical marijuana patients. For further information, please see http://www.GraniteStaters.com .
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Comment #9 posted by goneposthole on March 31, 2004 at 06:12:26 PT
the screaming meanie
At least the guy said something worth hearing.All of the talk from the rest is empty rhetoric and meaningless.'The time to speak has passed, now is the time for senseless bickering'Which is exactly what it all is.As long as the Democrats and Republicans hold the reins of power, expect nothing else.
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Comment #8 posted by kaptinemo on March 31, 2004 at 04:43:22 PT:
Unrelated: corrupt cop caught in Canada
Officer charged in $2.9M drug bust
Cocaine, hash discovered in car
Audit under way of evidence room
BOB MITCHELL
STAFF REPORTER
http://thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1080688213498&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154Yessir, our boys in blue are impervious to corruption; says so right on the label. Uh-huh...
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Comment #7 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on March 31, 2004 at 03:29:34 PT
Durbin?
A guest on The Daily Show mentioned a while back that he'd like to see Illinois senator Richard Durbin as Kerry's running mate. That's the best possibility I've heard of yet, although it's a long shot.
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Comment #6 posted by E_Johnson on March 30, 2004 at 21:50:14 PT
Dean the Mean
For all of Howard Dean's emotion, he had zero compassion for medical marijuana.
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Comment #5 posted by The GCW on March 30, 2004 at 20:56:04 PT
Richardson is unacceptable.
"...he won’t be doing the ticket any favors among one traditionally Democratic constituency: the drug decriminalization crowd..."If the Democrats ignore this issue of the need for credible drug law reform, all bets are off.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on March 30, 2004 at 17:56:20 PT
Richardson
I really hope that Kerry doesn't pick Richardson. Not even because of the article but I remember how he was with Governor Johnson. I would much rather see General Clark because he is sympathetic to medical marijuana.
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Comment #3 posted by mamawillie on March 30, 2004 at 17:53:53 PT
What about
I've been hearing a lot about Sen. Bob Graham of Florida... anyone know of his opinions?
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Comment #2 posted by goneposthole on March 30, 2004 at 17:51:10 PT
The Great Southwest
He wants those western states in his back pocket.He's counting votes. If only people would count.If only politicians would and could be real and genuine. Like I have said, Howard Dean's scream is the only genuine act and real attempt to communicate with the mesmerized American citizenry.If he would sit down and play some whist or pinochle or bridge, maybe the babies would stop crying.There is no hope for change with the Democrats and Republicans running the show.Afflict the comforted.I don't know what is in store for November 2, 2004, but I do hope that bombs don't start it off.
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Comment #1 posted by kaptinemo on March 30, 2004 at 16:48:01 PT:
I'd be more concerned about Rand Beers
Mr. RoundUp, Hisself, is sitting on Kerry's shoulder, whispering in his ears. The man who pushed for the spraying of helpess Colombian peasents with untested herbicides is John Kerry's foreign policy advisor. That alone gives me the very legitimate concern that a President Kerry will conduct 'business as usual' in continuting the DrugWar into it's 9th decade.
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