cannabisnews.com: UK Testing Medical Marijuana Inhaler
UK Testing Medical Marijuana Inhaler
Posted by CN Staff on February 14, 2004 at 12:34:00 PT
By Richard Willing, USA Today
Source: USA Today
Plans to make marijuana available by prescription to British multiple sclerosis sufferers also promise to shake up the debate in the USA over legalizing marijuana for medicinal purposes.Sativex, an inhaler that dispenses medical marijuana in mist form, is in the final stages of testing by the United Kingdom's Department of Health, a spokeswoman said.
Once approved, Sativex's developer, GW Pharmaceuticals, a British company, hopes to sell medical pot in western Europe and the Commonwealth countries, including Canada. The U.S. market is a ''long-term objective," company spokesman Mark Rogerson says.Sativex would be the first prescription drug that uses real marijuana extract and not a synthesized form. The product offers hope of pain relief to an estimated 110,000 MS sufferers in the United Kingdom. Some say that by licensing the drug, the British government has confirmed its value in relieving pain. Others say that once government-approved marijuana is available, it will be more difficult to argue that disease sufferers should be permitted to grow or purchase pot for their own use.''The government's spin will be that there is a right way and a wrong way to pursue (medical marijuana), and that (Sativex) proves it," says Allen St. Pierre, director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. The Washington, D.C.-based group favors relaxing criminal penalties for all pot users.Note: Device has unlikely future in USA. Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/future.htmNewshawk: Ethan Russo, MDSource: USA Today (US)Author: Richard Willing, USA TodayPublished: February 12, 2004 - Page 3A Copyright: 2004 USA Today, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.Contact: editor usatoday.comWebsite: http://www.usatoday.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:NORMLhttp://www.norml.org/GW Pharmaceuticalshttp://www.gwpharm.com/The Cannabis Conundrumhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18285.shtmlBritish Firm Holds Hope for Users of Medical Pothttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18277.shtmlBritain To Approve Medicine Derived From MJhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18224.shtml
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Comment #44 posted by ekim on February 16, 2004 at 21:18:46 PT
89%
02/17/2004 - Updated 12:17:53 PM ET
Quick question results
Should a medical marijuana inhaler be sold in the United States? 89%
Yes
7.61%
No
3.38%
I don't know
Total Votes:2246
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on February 16, 2004 at 13:38:23 PT
Friendly Reminder: USA Today Poll
Should a medical marijuana inhaler be sold in the United States? YesNoI don't knowhttp://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-15-medical-marijuana_x.htm
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18344.shtml#37
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on February 16, 2004 at 09:23:03 PT
Jose
I don't drink but what I was wondering was if it works for alcohol would it work for an extract of cannabis?
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Comment #41 posted by jose melendez on February 16, 2004 at 09:18:02 PT
careful!
My EMT friend warned against experimenting with breathing alcohol fumes, said it probably would lead to FAR MORE HARMFUL lung damage than pot.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on February 16, 2004 at 09:12:25 PT
Did Anyone See The Alcohol Inhaler on Fox News?
They showed people passing an inhaler like a hookah. They are using this instead of drinking. If anyone knows what this might be please let us know.
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Comment #39 posted by paulpeterson on February 16, 2004 at 08:15:05 PT
Virgil
Good point: yes, I lost my law license because I tried to invoke the long-standing (and world class) medical marijuana law in Illinois (720 ILCS 550, sections 11 & 15).The new legislation proposed in Illinois actually has a "Paully" provision in it, to the extent that a person that tries to invoke the law (as proposed) can NOT BE ETHICALLY DISCIPLINED (etc.). That means, roundly, that I have a duty to go back to the Illinois Supreme Court (that is currently ruminating about my appeal) and ask them whether they want to (1) accomodate my attempts to improve the system (which is mandated under their rules) or to 2) use my own travails as a case in point to lobby for passage of this act WHICH WILL PLACE THE LEGAL SYSTEM IN DISREPUTE (which I am mandated NOT TO DO). In other words, how can I work to improve the system without at the same time making them look like shit (since their goons totally disregarded the valid law that I tried to champion).The DHS, in fact (the state agency that is supposed to have a rubber stamp all inked up and ready to go) even CONTACTED THE LAWYER POLICE TO FORCE CHARGES AGAINST ME TO AVOID HAVING TO APPROVE! (More nice detail when the legislature debates the need to force the state to do what the current law ALREADY MANDATES THAT THEY DO: they "shall encourage research", etc.This should shape up quite nicely. There is also an insurance fraud argument in my case, since I tried to stop attorneys that had fraudulently claimed there WAS insurance coverage for a case I was handling, and now the state industrial board has ruled that there WAS NO COVERAGE after all, meaning that now that my ethics charges against those attorneys were well-founded after all! In other words, the Illinois Supreme Court must now DISREGARD NECESSARY EVIDENCE to maintain that false charge, or COMMIT THEIR OWN FRAUDULENT CONCEALMENT, in which case I guess I need to go to the US Supreme Court (since the FBI, DOJ and Illinois Attorney General have all refused to intercede).I still have a valid ADA claim against the Lawyer Police in federal district court. In October, my federal judge stated "Obviously" Peterson won't prevail under his "commerce clause" challenge (about the CSA of 1970), then I did a motion to dismiss that claim, since "obviously" I would be better to await that case law precedent from the 9th Circuit first (which came through, nicely, 12/16/03). Now I am badgering the local US Attorney to acknowledge and agree to follow the 9th Circuit OR I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY FEDERAL JUDGE AND REINSTATE MY CLAIM, now that "obviously" the case law supports my arguments made 9/4/02, the same day and time as the WAMM bust was happening in Santa Cruz.(I would like to thank MPP for coming to Illinois, and thank you for taking my suggestions regarding the anti-ethics provision in the proposed legislation!)Paul Peterson, renegade (it would seem) lawyer.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 19:50:13 PT
USA Today Poll
Should a medical marijuana inhaler be sold in the United States? Yes No I don't know
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-15-medical-marijuana_x.htm
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 18:28:11 PT
A Comment About Organizations
I said in a post that I don't really pay attention to ratings by organizations. That's true but I appreciate the efforts of all the organizations. I live in an area where nothing much happens but I'm glad we have people fighting for us in Washington D.C. and in California. Their work is valuable. I'm not involved with any of the organizations and feel that's best for me since I do news. I feel I must stay impartial. There I feel better.
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Comment #35 posted by Virgil on February 15, 2004 at 15:10:45 PT
Dean's campaign manager lays it out
The Dean campaign sought to change the power politics that served the concentrations of wealth. Joe Trippi was the campaign manager and this speech of February 9th is about as nail-on-the-head as could be imagined in outlining the Peoples efforts to take back America using the prime tool that is the Internet.Those that supported Dean have seen how the system is gamed and this speech explains it further. These people are for taking back the country and now they are energized to continue a movement to take back the country much like the Conservatives set out to take it in the first place. This link has audio of the speech or text and is a primer for those that want to return the common good as the directive of government- http://www.itconversations.com/transcript.php?id=80There is also a movie they call "The Prisoner" that relates in the same way Orwell's 1984 does to our present situation- http://www.propagandamatrix.com/130204theprisoner
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Comment #34 posted by charmed quark on February 15, 2004 at 15:07:23 PT
Evething GW Pharm is offering is already available
I was visiting a doctor in the San Francisco Bay Area last year. He showed me the medical herb they are using - each "prescription" batch had been analyzed by gas chromography to establish its level of THC, CBD, etc. They could them be mixed to a standardized amount. He said they had to use an underground lab to analyze it because otherwise the Feds would get involved. We also discussed extracts and standardized tinctures that were availble, as well as vaporizers. What is lacking is a small, portable vaporizer. GW Pharm says they are looking at developing them. My talk with the doctor got me interested in portable vaporizers and I've come up with few ideas for putting such a thing together economically. It's pretty easy if you are using an extract instead of herb.Maybe I'll beat GW Pharm to it.In any case, everything GW Pharm is offering can already be had by medical users in the Bay area. But, of course, the Feds make most of this illegal. Vaporizers are illegal in the USA, as they are considered paraphernalia. Using one would result in an additional charge against you if you got arrested for possession.
Making extracts can result in additional charges over simple possession. And so on - I think the official USA policy is Harm Maximization.-Pete
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 14:45:26 PT
sukoi
I haven't spent time in the web site but the articles I've seen seem helpful.
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Comment #32 posted by sukoi on February 15, 2004 at 14:31:18 PT
How did you like the site?
Your welcome FoM, what did you think about the site? I like it, it's definately different!
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 14:11:45 PT
The GCW
I wish he would have fought it but I can understand that because of the amount and the fine that it would be easier to just pay the fine.http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18244.shtml
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Comment #30 posted by The GCW on February 15, 2004 at 14:06:37 PT
US NY: Garfunkel Faces the Music
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n275/a13.html?397Admits Drug Charge, Pays Fine HURLEY - Singer Art Garfunkel has pleaded guilty to marijuana possession and paid a $100 fine, bringing to a close the case that began with his arrest last month on state Route 28. Cont.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 14:03:33 PT
Thanks sukoi
It's posted now!http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18345.shtml
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Comment #28 posted by sukoi on February 15, 2004 at 13:44:21 PT
Interesting Article (and site)
I thought that all of you might find this article interesting. Some of you may have already read it, but here is an exerpt and a link to the full article for those who haven't: How Do We Get Politicians to Act Rationally about Marijuana?By Robert Deitch "Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that it is going to take another devastating economic depression, the likes of the Great Depression of the 1930s, before our elected officials will come to their senses, as was the case with Alcohol Prohibition. While no one enjoys being the barer of bad news - and I can only hope that I am proven wrong, the ugly truth may well be that we are already on the brink of such a disaster, and still there is no sign of sanity in the nation's capital - at best they're doing little more than arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. They're still ignoring us. They think we're stupid and easily manipulated. But, I suggest that "the people" are not stupid and will not, much longer, continue to allow them selves to be victimized by this foolish war on drugs or the police state that it has created. And, the lines are hardening. Already, millions of people in eight states have demonstrated through the initiated process that they are determined to pass laws that force reform of America's insane drug laws. It has not gone un-noticed, and realizing public opinion has dramatically shifted politicians have toned down their tough on drugs rhetoric."Full article can be read here:
http://www.bigleftoutside.com/archives/000347.php#more
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Comment #27 posted by afterburner on February 15, 2004 at 13:41:24 PT:
the man who coined the term "psychedelic"
Canada: Canada's Guru Of Psychedelia Dies At Age 86 - 14 Feb 2004
National Post (Canada)
http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v04/n273/a03.html
"The death of the brilliant psychiatrist Dr. Humphry Osmond, a legendary figure in counter-culture circles and the man who coined the term 'psychedelic,' is a reminder of a time when Weyburn, Sask., was the world epicentre of LSD research."Medical Freedom Amendment for 2004!
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 13:36:45 PT
The GCW
I don't know the answers but I do know that the laws must be changed. Hopefully if we vote Bush out of office we will stand a chance. It's time for our political leaders to look deep inside themselves now more then ever. SNL last night was great. It had pot related humor thru the whole show. Even SNL is returning to it's time from way back when it was really funny in the drug culture years.
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Comment #25 posted by The GCW on February 15, 2004 at 13:27:32 PT
Try it You'll like it; & fight for peace, w/ peace
FoM, What is happening is spiritual. People, including youth are learning the facts that cannabis is less harmful than tobacco and alcohol… and people are trying it and using it. When people use cannabis, people get peaceful, but they also get angry and they want less violence, but they want the violence to stop.We are perhaps getting ready to outgrow the period in the early 1970’s when so many cannabis using young people protested for peace. One of the effects of Our movement is to fight the government with facts and truth, but another effect is to let people know there is less to fear about cannabis than what the propagandists want them to think. People try cannabis and find it is such a mellow buzz that is much safer than many other choices and tell their friends, and then all the sudden people find themselves willing to speak out for peace around the world…Now it comes. Biblically discredited, Government subsidized, cannabis prohibitionists, are exposed. It is relevant that this is a Biblical matter… always has been… cannabis is a spiritual enhancer, with many more benefits, uncivilized man is not ready to comprehend.They will be the target.And the war We face is spiritual. More and more, people are becoming aware of the fact that there are spiritual realities out and about and strive to become better acquainted with them. We also more and more, sense the spirits that are associated with Bush. Spirits that should be controlled like the plague. Spirits that should not have been let out to begin with. The spirit of error, must be fought by the Spirit of Truth.I sense, that war, is coming right directly in front of Us.Cannabis prohibition is against Christ God Our Father. Cannabis prohibition is the Biblical root of the problems We face. Cannabis prohibition is the original living sin.And If I know that, be sure to know Christ God Our Father knows it.Thank The Ecologician for cannabis.& Note: One thing that should not leave Our memory for even a moment: Bush and Kerry have Skull N Bones in common.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 13:16:27 PT
Virgil
I really don't pay attention to ratings by organizations. That is the opinion of those who are writing what they feel. The one thing that will help us if Kerry would become president is his past. He saw Vietnam and also saw the hell of Vietnam enough so to come out and fight to stop the war. Marijuana use was common. It often was said that it was the Vietnam Vets getting exposed to marijuana when they were there that helped make it popular back in the states. Cannabis is a big part of all this just like it was back then. The difference now is we have the internet and we don't need to depend on tv news to tell us what is really going on.
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Comment #23 posted by Virgil on February 15, 2004 at 13:04:50 PT
I agree FoM
Conversational currency will switch the the graveness before us and there will be a Great Awakening. Cannabis policy goes a long way as being the issue that expresses the corruption of government best.I want to offer these words for others to improve on to shatter the false reality that all is well with America using the cannabis reality. From http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=331346I am quite familiar with the grade inflation that gave Kerry an A- for MMJ. I just find it totally impossible to give a Senator a passing grade on medical cannabis if they do not call for the proper intellectual classification of cannabis on the Schedule of Narcotics that the DEA administers. Because of a curve, I could see passing someone that called for moving cannabis from a Schedule 1 to a Schedule 2. This would allow for doctors to prescribe cannabis and cannabinoids. Kerry does not even mention the improper classification or the vicious and malicious nature that keeps it there.I am familiar with the fact that he wrote a letter to NIDA along with Kennedy to get the University of Mass. permission to grow cannabis and do research. This is about getting federal money to the University of Mass. The National Institutes of Health has missed the boat on bringing America and the world real cannabinoid research and it is not because $28 billion can be spent on better research.In 1974 research would find cannabis could cut the blood supply to cancerous tumors which has been reaffirmed in Spain and recent studies. Even though Nixon would declare a War on Cancer in 1971, the 1974 research that held a great path of research would be buried.In 1978, the federal government would start a Compassionate Use experiment that would shut down in 1992 when the program would end due to an expectation of a flood of AIDS patients. There are still 7 patients still getting federally grown cannabis from Mississippi under that program. States across the country had medical marijuana laws in the 1970 and early 1980's. Canada recognizes cannabis although we see the corruption of the government there also as there are only 600 people able to jump the hurdles since 1999. The Dutch have medical marijuana reimbursable by the government's health care.The New York Times even called the federal government's attitude toward medical marijuana "mean-spirited." This is all but an understatement. I realize the Granite Staters pushed Kerry above Dean, but Kerry is in no way recognized by me as being a supporter of medical marijuana. If he were he would already have introduced legislation calling for at least a Schedule 2 classification of cannabis when it could well be argued to be a Schedule 5.Synthetic THC made by Unimed in Illinois is a Schedule 3, yet the same exact molecule made naturally in a plant is Schedule 1, which bars all use and all research without federal permission which is all but impossible to get. The December 16th ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeal might lead to an opening that escapes the overreach of the Commerce Clause that brought us hedgemoney of the federal position.There was recently legislation proposed in Illinois for medical cannabis- http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18318.shtml It is ironic that they had a first rate program set up in 1978 that never went operational and I could tell you about Paul Peterson the lawyer that lost his license for trying to use that law.Spain is on the verge of medical marijuana but to some extent it will really be for poor and sick people as Spain is the most cannabis friendly country in Europe. People grow it everywhere and they found that it also helped keep people out of prison. People in Switzerland grow it everywhere too, but Spain is out Dutching the Dutch.There are 61 cannabinoids that could all have promise and only THC has the high associated with it. However all cannabinoids and anything that binds with the natural cannabinoid receptors in the body are all Schedule 1. I am totally insulted that anyone could say Kerry is friendly to medical marijuana. He is not. All he says is we need research. There is plenty of research that says all 3 criteria required for Schedule 1 are false. Someone would have to prove all 3 are correct to maintain that position. There is a stonewall position being made by a totally corrupt system that calls for the Schedule 1 classification. It is all a lie. I could go on, but here is the punchline of the Schedule 1 joke- it is all a lie. To say Kerry is friendly to medical cannabis is also a lie. All he does is give the political boilerplate-"It needs more study."The situation does not need study to move it out of Schedule 1. All it needs is honesty.
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Comment #22 posted by afterburner on February 15, 2004 at 13:03:43 PT:
re Jamaica already has two cannabis medicines
"Other US officials said that if Jamaica loosened its ganja laws, the US would respond with economic sanctions"Other US citizens said that if Jamaica loosened its ganja laws, US citizens would respond with economic support!
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 12:49:50 PT
I've Had Time To Think
I've been thinking about our issue and where we are going and I'm also trying to sort it all out and I come up with these thoughts and I wanted to share them with everyone here. Neil Young said this in a Rolling Stone Article. ***Question: What do you believe? Where is the hope in the Greendale songs and story? ***Neil Young's Answer: The energy in the last couple of songs ["Sun Green" and "Be the Rain"] - that's youth rising out of this. It hasn't gotten to the point where things have started moving yet, but this period is the biggest breeding ground for revolution in this country since the mid-Sixties. I don't think there's been a more ripe time for a generation to come along and rebel against all this. http://www.rollingstone.com/features/featuregen.asp?pid=1906There's something happening hereWhat it is ain't exactly clearIs a 60s type revolution back on the horizon? Sometimes I really feel it is.http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/forrestgump/forwhatitsworth.htm
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 11:49:12 PT
Off Topic: Tomorrow on World Link TV
The Active Opposition: Broken Heart/Land - The Demise of the Family FarmBroadcast Times
Monday, February 16 8:00 PM Tuesday, February 17 2:00 AM Tuesday, February 17 8:00 AM Tuesday, February 17 2:00 PM Host Peter Coyote joins musician/activist Willie Nelson and panel of farmers, activists and agricultural experts to explore the plight of a dying breed: The Family Farmer. Family farms in the US have foreclosed and vanished at the alarming rate of 500 per week as a corporate agricultural industry, which often wields monopolistic control over commodity prices, has been firmly established throughout the U.S. Millions of dollars in US government subsidies go to only ten percent of American farmers, while the remaining 90 percent are left to fend for themselves. Increasingly, they’re giving up. Unable to compete with falling commodity prices while their costs to raise a harvest far exceeds any possible return, they migrate by the millions to urban areas. More distressingly, suicide rates among American farmers now stand at five times the national average. Complete Article: http://linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=active_farm
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Comment #19 posted by jose melendez on February 15, 2004 at 11:23:34 PT
cough . . .
a Million?Won't they cross breed and become hemp?
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 10:44:14 PT
Important E-Mail from Americans For Safe Access
DPFCA: 1st ANNUAL DE LA FUENTE MEMORIAL SEED PLANTING TODAY
Happy 215 Day! Please come join us today at noon!NEWS ADVISORY from Americans for Safe Access Patients to Plant a Million Pot Seeds at Oakland City Hall Sunday Activists Angered by Plan to Limit Medical Marijuana Dispensaries and Lower GuidelinesWHAT: Protest planting of a million marijuana seeds. Great visuals of patients garbed in gardening gear, wielding rakes and shovels. WHEN: Noon, Sunday, February 15, 2004 WHERE: Oakland City Hall, 14th & Broadway, Oakland, California. WHO: Medical marijuana patients and activists.OAKLAND (February 13, 2004) – Medical marijuana patients plan to plant more than a million marijuana seeds at Oakland City Hall on Sunday. The protest is in response to a proposal the Oakland City Council is to consider Tuesday which would rollback the number of medical marijuana dispensaries the city allows to operate, as well as the number of plants each patient would be allowed to maintain. The new rules, if implemented, would also prohibit patients from consuming their medication on the premises of the dispensaries.“Oakland has been at the forefront of ensuring safe access for medical marijuana patients,” said Steph Sherer, campaign manager for the national medical marijuana advocacy group Americans for Safe Access. “We want them to understand the dire consequences of their proposed action.”The new restrictions, proposed by Oakland Council President Ignacio de la Fuente, target the Oaksterdam area where many dispensaries operate. Only four would be allowed to remain open under the proposed changes, and the number of plants per patient would be lowered from the current limit of 72 to only 18. The number of marijuana seeds to be planted in the City Hall protest symbolizes the number of medical marijuana plants activists say could be eliminated by the proposal the City Council is considering.Questions remain as to whether the new limits would also apply to the number of plants an individual patient could cultivate, and even the legality of some of the changes. Legal experts have suggested that the proposal would bring Oakland City Council into conflict with the new California state law on medical marijuana, SB420, which sets minimum standards for permissible marijuana quantities and recognizes patient cooperatives for cultivation and distribution that the Oakland proposal also restricts.A national coalition of 5,500 patients, doctors and advocates, Americans for Safe Access is the largest organization working solely on medical marijuana. For interviews or more information, contact ASA’s communications director, William Dolphin, at (510) 919-1498 or asa williamdolphin.comHilary McQuie
Campaign Director
Americans for Safe Access
1678 Shattuck Ave. #317
Berkeley, CA 94709
510-486-8083
http://www.safeaccessnow.org
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Comment #17 posted by jose melendez on February 15, 2004 at 08:42:46 PT
ask Dr. Russo
from: http://cannabishealth.com/issue04/apr04p5.htmGW is developing 3 delivery technologies; - an oral spray, - a tablet which dissolves under the tongue, and - a compact inhaler containing miniature heating elements that vapourize cannabis extracts. Active compounds in the oro-mucosal spray are primarily absorbed by the lining of the mouth and the tongue and begin to take effect within about 15-20 minutes. Some of the extract may also be swallowed, providing symptomatic relief for 4 to 6 hours. The inhaler's effects are felt almost immediately and do not last as long.from: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/generic.htmWhat’s the difference between a generic and brand-name drug? Not much, except for name and price. A generic drug is called by its chemcical (note this is on the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION site!) name; a manufacturer assigns a brand name. The products have the same ingredients.
Standard practice and most state laws require that a generic drug be generically equivalent to its brand-name counterpart. That is, it must have the same active ingredients, strength, and dosage form—pill, liquid, or injection. The generic drug also must be therapeutically equivalent—it must be the same chemically and have the same medical effect.- "Is anybody home at the FDA?" - heard on npr while typing this.-What about that, Doc?IS anyone at FDA / FTC / DEA willing to admit that cannabis supression is fraud? I know, I know, not if I phrase the question that way . . .
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on February 15, 2004 at 08:38:21 PT
Off Topic: Did Anyone See SNL Last Night?
I missed some of it because when the music came on I changed the channel and then checked back and they did a funny skit about Bush and his missing time and pot and coke? I only saw the very end of the skit but I laughed.
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Comment #15 posted by charmed quark on February 15, 2004 at 06:23:40 PT
Schedule 1 Lie was Exposed with Marinol
Not only that, but Marinol is now Schedule 3. Whatdoes that tell us? Put it in sesame oil and it goes from Schedule 1 to 3.Marinol was pushed through to suppress the medical marijuana movement for AIDS and cancer chemo. Sativex will be used the same way to suppress the new state-level medical movements . It will eventually be approved in the USA for MS and certain types of pain. The government will say that Sativex overcomes the objections to the poor performance of Marinol and is OK because it gives standardized doses in a non-smoked form. Regular cannabis will still be evil as it is non-standardized and thus not medicine.Of course, it will take years for this to happen, and current sufferers are just sh** out of luck.Other than the wait, I would be OK with this if the USA had universal medical coverage to pay for the Sativex. But as it is, many people will be denied a very inexpensve medical herb. You'll only be allowed to use it if you have a good job with medical benefits or are rich enough to pay for it.-Pete
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Comment #14 posted by sukoi on February 15, 2004 at 06:06:30 PT
The Irony (comment #8)
In 2000 Nader announced on February 21. If he runs this time he will run as an independent as the Greens cannot stomach the idea of losing to Bush the mass murdering treasonous war criminal that turned the mission of government from governance to plunder. Virgil, I thought that you might be interested in something that I heard on FOX News yesterday; it seems that our beloved President Bush is one of the 140 or so nomimees for the Nobel Peace Prize. Very appropriate don't you think?
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Comment #13 posted by mayan on February 15, 2004 at 05:23:06 PT
Doc Russo...
Thanks for the very informative link! I sure hope this inhaler can further expose the "Schedule One Lie" to the masses. Here are a couple of articles on Kucinich. What a brave soul...Kucinich still on the trail, still full of hope:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb04/207724.aspKucinich Reaches Out to the Neglected - Primary Travels Will Focus On 'Other America':
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A42609-2004Feb14?language=printerThe way out is the way in...White House papers no help, says member of 9/11 panel:
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-13/1076656673140360.xmlDid Cheney give Orders for the Stand Down?
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen10.html9/11 International Inquiry - San Francisco, March 26-28th:
http://www.deceptiondollar.com/Inquiry911.htm
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Comment #12 posted by Ethan Russo MD on February 15, 2004 at 03:56:06 PT
PLEASE READ!
http://cannabishealth.com/issue04/apr04p5.htmThis article will explain that Sativex is a whole cannabis extract with THC, CBD and terpenoids intact. For the 10 millionth time, it will make people high if they take enough, but that is not necessary to the medical benefit for most people.See alsoL www.gwpharm.co.uk
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Comment #11 posted by Ron Bennett on February 15, 2004 at 00:07:04 PT
Marinol in 1984 and yet little changed...
The GW extracts are going to embarass the federal government's past failures to explore the true miracles of cannabis.Do any of the GW Pharma's extracts have the same effects as naturally grown cannabis - make one "high" in the same way as smoking/vaporizing naturally grown cannabis does?I bet not...thus likely the GW extracts aren't any more of a threat than Marinol was back in 1984 to the "prohibitionists".Personally, I can't get too excited about GW Pharma's patented cannabinoid extractions in regards to changing the "status quo"...Ron
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Comment #10 posted by breeze on February 14, 2004 at 23:37:07 PT
The inbreds of the south
I was born in the south. And while there is plenty of evidence that the people who live here are indeed as stupid as the rest of the nation believes them to be- in some cases worse, you basically have to live here or have lived here to understand the drive behind their stupidity.They aren't stupid by choice, but are influenced by their society, and by the news casts local to the area.
I believe to date , the only state to carry John Edwards was his home state- South Carolina.This basically shows how out of step the south is with the rest of the nation. The information that is presented here by local news stations is sterileized for consumption for the masses.Strict allegiance is held to namely four things- 1]public opinion (who is brother leroy voting for and why?- Edwards, 'cause he's from here), 2]information presented by the powers of the local news (television,radio, and print), 3]the good 'ol boy project (this is too broad to define here, but if you must know- write me an email),4]and religion (the south frowns on anyone who doesn't preach christianity).The south was a once beautiful place to live, but now its changed into a horrific plateau of judgmental idiots who are at their core against everything the principles the rest of the nation was based upon. Money and greed now rule the south, with a strong principle growing in the belief of BIG BROTHER even by the citizens. I have seen good men forced from office because of their rejection by a few power mongers.Remember that Strom Thurmond was against racial equality yet he had a child that was born from one of his maids of a different race. Strom was also the oldest senator ever- as well as the holder of the office for almost a century and it is to this past history I look when I question the knowledge of the common man in the south. Intelligence is obviously lacking, but it is not because they choose to be stupid- they take pride in being ignorant!
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Comment #9 posted by Virgil on February 14, 2004 at 23:17:53 PT
Alternet on Loretta Nall v Nazibama
Alternet had a chance to hammer some prohibition evils with the Loretta Nall story and what Alabama calls a trial- http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17854
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Comment #8 posted by Virgil on February 14, 2004 at 22:08:13 PT
Nader is becoming a story
In 2000 Nader announced on February 21. If he runs this time he will run as an independent as the Greens cannot stomach the idea of losing to Bush the mass murdering treasonous war criminal that turned the mission of government from governance to plunder. Ralph is one old man, but he would really throw a wrinkle into the situation. One thing Bush did do was wake everyone up to what was gradually occurring. I think everyone thought thinks were well with America. People woke up only to be sickened by reality.I do not see how Kerry cannot be the nominee as the powers all lined up to send the establishments candidate foward. Kerry was instrumental in pushing the 1996 Telecommunications Act through the Senate that brought us this consolidated media, so that puts him in good stead with them, plus he has not threatened to bust them up.I really do not see how Bush could win a straight up election but the BBV issue is downright scary as it is seriously flawed to in any way try to justify removing the paper trail, yet in these unreal times we see it fought tooth and nail across the country, with Congress totally inept to correct the Act that all but desired to remove the paper trail.The hate the fundamentalist had for Clinton does not come close to the feelings that awakened Americans have towards Bush. The big difference of course is the rest of the world. The Europeans laughed over the Clinton situation, but now they will be in rebellion of some of Americas ways. One of those will be to reject the failure of American prohibitions especially with cannabis.The UK is in the midst of trying to honestly solve its issues with substance abuse. I cannot believe that they will not conclude that Free Cannabis is good all the way around, because it surely is.The truth just keeps dripping out and the world progresses and is also waking up from America's obsession with warring on everything.As screwed up as things are people will need relief from cannabis. If the iniative in Alaska fails I could only think of BBV. BTW, the South will look like a bunch of inbreds in 10 years as they will surely support Bushler/Bushalini.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on February 14, 2004 at 21:21:10 PT
ekim
I don't know the answer to your question. I didn't know Dennis was with CaNORML in San Francisco. I posted the email from Dale Gieringer about the poll in this thread but Dennis wasn't mentioned. I don't believe that organizations endorse anyone. I know believing in one person is hard for me too. That's why I keep my focus on changing the laws and read about who might be the next president. As the race gets finally down to Bush and whoever we will be able to get questions thrown at them as the election day draws closer. It could get very interesting late in the summer and up to elections. Meanwhile we will wait until we know who will be running against Bush to get much news I think.http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18338.shtml
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Comment #6 posted by ekim on February 14, 2004 at 21:09:18 PT
is IMMLY supporting Dennis
Sunday, February 15
http://www.kucinich.us/schedule.php
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
1:35 p.m. CT
National Health Care Forum
University of Wisconsin
Zelazo Center
2419 E. Kenwood Blvd.
Contact: Nate Wilkes, (602) 405-8625; Ann Seidl, (608) 446-8219Milwaukee, Wisconsin
5:30 p.m. CT
Democratic Presidential Candidates Debate
Marquette University
Weasler Auditorium
1442 West Wisconsin Ave.
Contact: Nate Wilkes, (602) 405-8625; Ann Seidl, (608) 446-8219Milwaukee, Wisconsin
7:00 p.m. CT
Post-debate Rally
Modjeska Theater
1134 West Mitchell St .
Contact: Nate Wilkes, (602) 405-8625; Ann Seidl, (608) 446-8219
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Comment #5 posted by ekim on February 14, 2004 at 21:01:34 PT
Where is Support for Dennis
Right after Dennis was on C-Span the station said that it will be having a new contest worth 50,000 dollars. Its name is CampCam..{Campaign Camcorder} and you must have 10 minutes or less of video shot with your favored Campaign issue. Man 50,000 thousand dollars. 10 minutes on Cannabis reform or Medical use or Hemp Goods seems that it could have been shot with Dennis Kucinichs last stop in San Francisco yesterday down Market St. Where are the news reports of Dennis trip to San Francisco with CANorml just releasing the 71% Poll for Cannabis Taxation and Regulation. to help the CA State 37 Billion in Debt. Where is Arnold he should be answering questions on this CANorml Poll.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on February 14, 2004 at 20:51:00 PT
Thanks ekim
I missed Dennis. I saw the end of Kerry's speech and then Edwards was coming on and I changed the channel. Dennis seems like a very nice man. He did get 7% in Nevada today.
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Comment #3 posted by ekim on February 14, 2004 at 20:13:38 PT
Dennis is telling it like it is
Kucinich on live on C-Span Dir tv ch 350
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Comment #2 posted by Petard on February 14, 2004 at 19:47:37 PT
Commerce Clause
If the U.S. ever approves of Sativex, or potential competing products from other pharma's, then the Commerce Clause could concievably come into play regarding personal cultivation of cannabis and the Californian compassion clubs type systems. After all, if the pharma's have a legal product available, then, just like the wheat farmer convicted under the Commerce Clause for growing his own personal use wheat, the personal cultivation of cannabis could impact the commercial goods involved in interstate and international trade. Therefore, the approval in the U.S. of Sativex and/or Sativex-like products would be a bad thing for the anti-prohibition movement. Our only hope under that condition would be to fight for the same personal use freedom as the home gardener growing veggies to supplement, but not replace, grocery store purchases.
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Comment #1 posted by Virgil on February 14, 2004 at 14:51:05 PT
GW forces conversattion again
The GW extracts are going to embarass the federal government's past failures to explore the true miracles of cannabis. Here we have USA Today reporting on the taboo subject of cannabis.What I would like to know is how is competition going to be allowed. Are the Dutch going to be able to send the identical products to the UK and the rest of Europe. Will India and South Africa take to the competition? How about Mexico? Why not Canada? Safety is not going to be an issue and neither will addiction. In a try cannabis first world, sales could be tremendous, especially if whole extracts minus THC help with everyday pain and headaches that are now solved by aspirin and the like.For that matter Jamaica already has two cannabis medicines- http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2407.html One is Cannasol for glaucoma and the other is Asmasol for cough cold and bronchial asthma.There is a matchup brewing similar to what happens when an immovable object is met by an unstopable force. Only this time, it is what happens when an unstoppable force meets a stonewall.Project Censored has the top 25 censored stories of 2003 up- http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2003/There is one piece of information that might have escaped some people concerning the upcoming elections. That information of course is that John Kerry is the Senator that introduced the legislation that brought us Plan Colombia.
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