cannabisnews.com: Political Fears May Stymie Pot Legislation Political Fears May Stymie Pot Legislation Posted by CN Staff on January 02, 2004 at 20:48:34 PT By Mike Nichols Source: Journal Sentinel Here's the latest buzz.Republican state Rep. Gregg Underheim's push for legal, medicinal marijuana seems likely to start a whole new round of questions about whether folks ever partook of the stuff themselves - for less than therapeutic reasons.And that's a flashback politicians aren't always eager to experience. Reporter: Ever smoke cannabis, sir?Politician: Smoke cannabis? . . . You mean blow a doobie? Smoke a "J"? Puff the dragon?Reporter: Ah . . . yeah.Politician: No comment.I've done it myself, I confess - asked the question, that is.Ten years ago I covered the race for attorney general between our governor, Jim Doyle, and Jeff Wagner, the former federal drug prosecutor who is now a radio talk show host.And I have a copy of an old story right in front of me stating that I once "prodded" Wagner to fess up.He wouldn't."Whether somebody was an adolescent and smoked marijuana . . . is irrelevant," he told me. "If I was smoking marijuana when I was in the U.S. attorney's office, that is a very different question."And the answer to that one, he added, is "absolutely not."Just as I was looking at that clip - coincidentally - Wagner brought Underheim's bill up on the air, and opined that it makes a lot of sense.It does.Canada already allows use of marijuana for medical purposes. And in the fall, pharmacies in Holland, where smoking the stuff has long been an accepted part of the culture anyway, started selling government-tested pot.In the meantime, at least 10 states already have some sort of medicinal marijuana law, and a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision could encourage others to join the party.Not that people on chemotherapy are partying.They're praying - often to no avail.Assembly Speaker John Gard has already said the "odds are stacked against" Underheim and that there is "a big mountain to climb."Underheim himself, in the meantime, said Friday that it's a "long shot" because of concerns, at least in part, about public reaction.Folks in Madison, in other words, think the average dolt is too dense to differentiate between a dealer providing a fix and a doctor providing relief.In reality, most folks have retained enough brain cells to recognize the difference between responsible medicine and irresponsible recreation.Or, for that matter, between public policy and personal foolery.Ten years ago, people might have cared whether a politician once smoked a joint.Today, it's a tossup whether - strictly in political terms - it's worse to be an equivocator who claims to have smoked but not inhaled, a geek who never made a mistake, or a druggie who did.Doyle himself has conceded he smoked marijuana twice while in college.Former Gov. Scott McCallum, who went to college in St. Paul, has quipped that, "at Macalester, the only way around it was to not breathe."Hey, you think it's hard breathing fresh air at Macalester, try going to school in Holland for nine months like I once did.Nobody is advocating legalization of marijuana for fun.And maybe some politician somewhere will come up with a decent scientific reason for opposing its use by folks who are so sick from chemo they are trembling.In the meantime, shooting Underheim down just to avoid being soft on drugs is soft in something else - the head.From the Jan. 3, 2004 editions of the Milwaukee Journal SentinelSource: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (WI)Author: Mike NicholsPublished: January 3, 2004Copyright: 2004 Milwaukee Journal SentinelContact: jsedit onwis.comWebsite: http://www.jsonline.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:Is My Medicine Legal Yet? http://immly.org/Medical Marijuana Information Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/medical.htmCancer Changes Lawmaker's Mind on Drughttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18075.shtmlWisconsin Should Lead In Marijuana Researchhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread11768.shtmlLawmakers Introduce Medical-Marijuana Billhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread11552.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #43 posted by jose melendez on January 05, 2004 at 01:36:59 PT Peter endorses Kerry, decries misinformation http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/04/politics/campaigns/04KERR.html?pagewanted=alllogin: cannabisnews password: password which are you? [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 17:54:19 PT Friendly Reminder: Willie Nelson Benefit Concert It is supposed to start within minutes. Here's the link.http://kucinich.us/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 15:53:42 PT One More Comment It sounds like I get angry with people that post regularly on CNews by saying I get angry often. That's not what upsets me but the news. The news really gets me seeing red so I turn it off. There I feel better now. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 15:04:48 PT EJ That's What We Should Do I get very angry often but I try to remember that I have a responsibility to people who read and post on CNews and I wait to vent and find that if I wait it loses it's importance or I do something about what has me upset if I feel it's necessary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by E_Johnson on January 03, 2004 at 14:50:59 PT FoM I understand the rage It was an enraging series of events. I took my rage out on Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, who had more control over that situation than anyone else did. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 14:26:27 PT EJ That's Sad I find that fighting with each other is the most destructive of emotions. I hope he and everyone can find peace and move forward. We need harmony. We need to be united or we might all fall. I believe that from the bottom of my heart. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by E_Johnson on January 03, 2004 at 14:17:12 PT FoM My most direct acquaintance with Todd is with his efforts to make sure that the patients of the LACRC were treated with hostility and suspicion wherever they went.That really didn't help the movement much, as far as I can tell. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Patrick on January 03, 2004 at 14:09:20 PT FoM Here is another link with some video http://www.productionclips.com/todd.htmRight on E_J! I ain't in their clique either but they do attract national media attention to the idiocy of marijuana prohibition when they speak out in public about it. The more people that hear about CP the sooner it can end. So I hope. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 14:08:49 PT EJ a Comment It's been a long time since when Todd went to jail. When I saw fighting years ago I stopped getting email because I don't believe in fighting. What happened way back a long time ago doesn't seem important because what is important is where we are now and where we are going. The future is where we all can make a difference. I'm sure Todd when he is allowed will get involved again but maybe he'll write books or something instead. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by E_Johnson on January 03, 2004 at 13:50:39 PT Not sure I agree "Sure would be nice to Bill Maher, Woody, and Todd all together again to talk politically incorrect! :) "I don't think it would be all that nice, because it would be the same old people saying the same old things they always say, to the small group of people who always listens to whatever they say, whenever they say it.I'm not in their clique and I never will be. They don't really have any interest in any marijuana users who are not in their clique. They don't ever try to reach outside of their clique. Between them, they do everything they can to make sure that whatever exists of a marijuana movement in LA consists only of people in their clique.Progress on this issue is only going to be made when people outside of the celebrity marijuana insider clique get interested in the issue and start to care about it.I'd rather hear more from people outside of the usual suspects, people who can communicate better with women, for example, something Bill Maher has consciously decided he does not want to do.Like Barbara Ehrenreich, for example. I'd really like to hear her talk about pot. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 13:31:21 PT Patrick I think Todd will find a place to live. I thought he'd move in with his mother until he got on his feet but maybe she doesn't live in California anymore. I really don't know. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by Patrick on January 03, 2004 at 13:24:02 PT FoM Here is another recent link about Todd:http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sha/20836770.htmlHis book inspired me to grow my own and free myself from both the black market and hopefully federal scrutiny until this dreadful prohibition ends. You can download a copy of his book here:http://www.drugsense.org/mcwilliams/www.petertrial.com/grow.htmAlso, here is Todd's website:http://www.ahemp.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 13:11:56 PT News Article From Cannabis Culture Courageous People of 2003: http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3245.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 13:09:21 PT News Article from Snipped Source N.H. Voters Hearing From Robo-Callers By Jonathan Finer, Washington Post Staff WriterThursday, January 1, 2004; Page A08 MANCHESTER, N.H. -- In this hotbed of retail politics, where a woman recently told a reporter that over more than two decades she has never voted for a presidential candidate she hadn't danced with, the impersonal age of "robo-calls" has arrived. Phone-banking -- where volunteers gather to dial up voters -- has been a staple of New Hampshire's grass-roots primary for decades. But in recent months, Democratic voters here have received a growing number of recorded telephone messages -- known as robo-calls -- from the campaigns of former Vermont governor Howard Dean and Sens. John F. Kerry (Mass.), John Edwards (N.C) and Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.). At least one interest group campaigning in the state -- the Washington-based Marijuana Policy Project -- has also adopted the technique. Snipped:Complete Article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46025-2003Dec31.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 12:53:24 PT Patrick That would be nice. todd737 yahoo.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by Patrick on January 03, 2004 at 12:43:53 PT Email Todd! FoM when you said it was slow I thought for some reason what was up with news about Todd McCormick. I found this site that has email address posted:http://www.stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/317/toddmccormick.shtmlSure would be nice to Bill Maher, Woody, and Todd all together again to talk politically incorrect! :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by westnyc on January 03, 2004 at 12:35:03 PT Ekim! I went to the site you posted for those wanting to participate in the democratic caucuses who live in Michigan. I registered via my voting card(piece of cake). Once you register - they will send you a confirmation letter letting you know that you are all set to vote. So easy and thanks again. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by westnyc on January 03, 2004 at 12:28:13 PT Yes Virgil - Unemployment is going down! The unemployment figures are indeed dropping. Why? Because those who used to have ONE job; now, have TWO -which together pay less than the ONE good job they lost. However, it makes the unemployment figures go-down. Remember, manufacturing and textiles have been replaced with the lucrative Service Industries, ya know - Wallmart ($6.00 - 7.00/hr and no benefits.) [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 12:13:24 PT puff_tuff I have a question that you might know the answer. The news in email has been slow and it's been a while since I've seen anything in staff news. Is it slow for you too? [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by Patrick on January 03, 2004 at 12:11:33 PT fighting this insanity with words That's some great "stuff," laughing grass enhancement! Yes I am laughing grass-enhanced! I enjoy laughing grass. It enhances my day!Getting high, stoned, blitzed, blasted, warped, fogged, inebriated, crippled, zoned out, and freaked out all sound so negative. Enhanced is such a friendly sounding word. It sounds better than before and positive. The sound of getting "high" is no different than the sound of getting "drunk" really if only defined by the "altering" of ones consciousness. Truth is that the one that makes your life richer also seems to make you a criminal for partaking. Recreational use of cannabis is enhanced living and should not be a crime. I once thought being intoxicated in a bar was not a crime either hmmm. What's going on? [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by E_Johnson on January 03, 2004 at 12:00:34 PT Underheim is beginning his learning process Even though I was an experienced pothead in the seventies with a black light and Winterland posters and fruit flavored rolling papers, I have to say, it was still a learning process to become reacquainted with marijuana in a medicinal context in my later years. Underheim had all kinds of assumptions about life that are being turned around, first by his illness and then by his medicine.He's only starting to learn about the WOD now from the point of view of a vulnerable member of society. I wonder how far his learning process will take him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 11:02:54 PT puff_tuff Thanks for the link. That's one of those snipped sources so I won't post it but I will read it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by puff_tuff on January 03, 2004 at 10:44:38 PT Cannabis crusader appeals Saturday, January 03, 2004 Cannabis crusader appeals Scott Crowson Calgary Herald Grant Krieger is appealing his controversial pot conviction from last month. http://www.canada.com/calgary/news/story.asp?id=B0FB63DF-5351-459C-BA63-CB2545E1FEC7 [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by Virgil on January 03, 2004 at 10:25:53 PT Stuff I was watching the only channel out of Charlotte to carry the news at noon on Saturday because the Panthers will be in a playoff game with Dallas tonight. They had some exciting news about the new Corvette and its debut in an upcoming car show. What coverage from Eyewitness News.Someone was talking about old school reformers and news school, which really makes no sense to me as there are not really two formal views to divy up. Maybe there is a school of freedom and a school of pragmatism. There would be different levels of knowledge and different experiences with the laws that would influence a person's conviction. It is the level of conviction that seperates people by degrees and not by the circle that encompasses us all.Things set in on people just like a cold spell down here in NC. The laws of prohibition and the media that supports its fallacies and hides its perils are two sides of the same prohibition coin. The media never has been so assaulted by so many and now people have their eyes open for confirmation of what many already know. The media sucks and is in the business of thought herding. As Alexander Cockburn stated, we have privatized propaganda. It is settin in on us. It is also unraveling and revealing.I get all buy ill when the news came on talking about the economy is picking up and the US aggressors captured Sadam in a $100 billion manhunt that sacrificed what honor and goodwill the country had left. Why was Sadam's capture going to make my year better. Was he going to invade North Carolina from his hideout with his handguns? But the economy thing is completely bogus and too many people feel the pain of it all or know someone that does. December 21 was the last day covered for many by the continual extension of unemployment benefits that went one year beyond what was expected. Here we have more pain and the news media saying unemployment rates went down because these payments ended. 9.8% of the work force is unemployed from full time work and here we have the media sending out information that people now looking for bias and propaganda add to their personal evidence.We are going to see a bashing of the media like we have never seen before. I thought maybe the NYT had come to the reality that they will suffer if they do not cover the events of this critical time in our countries history when they did the Kucinich piece that was on Cnews a few days ago. There will be an awakening. Just look at the people that have awakened just in the last year on the issue of the media.The Supreme Court decisions in Canada should have been printed at great length if not their entirety by some of the largest newspapers in Canada. John Turmel has now gotten around to his commentary on the decisions and is kind of a one man newspaper on this important event- http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/1097In 1097 he takes to task the CSC attack on cannabis use as an alteration of the mental process. They do not call it impairment and JCT says, so what if it is enhancement. It is not a harm, it is enhancement. People would do well to use the word enhanced instead of getting high as we are fighting this insanity with words and we should chose them well. John Turmel is my source for the term laughing grass and if he did nothing else for the cause, this would be one significant contribution. I did not adopt the use of the word enhanced from anyone else. I was inspired to use it when Turmel raised the issue of driving while influenced by laughing grass and made the comment if they wanted to use their punative laws on people with laughing grass in their system all they had to do was pull people over that drove slightly under the speed limit. It borders on probable cause as most people do not drive under the speed limit consistly. I called it Driving While Enhanced- DWE.Observer has all the links for the BS on using driving to support the freedom-robbing AKA Cannabis Prohibition. No one says that there should not be laws against impaired driving but cannabis does not cause driving and that is not even a reason to justify prohibition. Besides laughing grass is everywhere even with prohibition. If there were no prohibition people would not venture out once or twice a week to grab a stash and burn one for sociability and go home. Prohibition leads to more DWE than there would be without it. Cockburn would call it truth inversion.I got carried away. I was just going to say Turmel has about 10 messages up at medpot on Yahoo starting with the link above. He thought he had 90 days to appeal the October 6 or 7 ruling and then found out it was only 60. Now he talks like the Parker case is going to appeal to the CSC with its right to life issue and his case is going to appeal with the right to prevention of illness as an issue. That is why he was so concerned with these rulings. He needed to analyze them for his cause/case.The Supreme Court did make decision based on fallacy. It makes me believe the majority started out with a conclusion and then reached for anything to justify the decision. They reached into the land of fallacy/fantasy and history will not look kindly on their ruling. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 03, 2004 at 09:52:41 PT Here's the story... This lie is too big to get mad at. Reason for cancelling show: "MSNBC President Erik Sorenson disclosed the move in a staff memorandum this week, saying he wanted to focus the network's resources next year on prime-time hours Monday through Friday, the spokeswoman said."Didn't his who come on Saturdays. And since when was a high profile guy like Jesse Ventura have to cancel his show that comes on 1 entire hour in the hole week. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/381740.cms [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 09:48:18 PT SystemGoneDown I didn't watch Jesse before the show on Marijuana. I find because of doing news like I do I can't handle watching news on tv much anymore. News on tv is what I watch when something extreme happens and only until I can find related news on line. I am a believer that when one door shuts another one will open. Jesse will surface again. He's a winner in my book! [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 03, 2004 at 09:42:23 PT FoM HAve you or anybody here watched his show before that epidsode? If it was on consistently on Saturdays at 7:00et, than I guess it would be safe to assume that last show led to it being axed...... and sadly, we all know why. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 09:30:04 PT SystemGoneDown I can't be sure why but his outspoken show and what he said to Tom Riley didn't help him at all. We appreciate Jesse but those who pay the bills on MSNBC I'm sure didn't. Hopefully he will be back but I'm not holding my breathe. I am a realist anymore. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 03, 2004 at 09:26:36 PT FoM Do you have any details? I've been painfully curious to why I haven't seen it for weeks now. Did he come on every Saturdays before that show?..........Was this drug war debate really the reason why they axed him? [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 09:21:26 PT SystemGoneDown His show is gone. They did it to Phil Donahue too. All I can say is Thank God for the Internet or we wouldn't know much of anything. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 03, 2004 at 09:19:38 PT FoM WHAT!!!!!! They let him go? For favoring marijuana legalization?You can't be serious. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 09:10:37 PT RasAric I'm sorry to read that you won't be able to vote. When they take away voting privileges that secures that laws will stay the way they want them too. So much for a democracy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on January 03, 2004 at 09:06:55 PT SystemGoneDown That was the end for Jesse. I felt they would let him go after that and he had one more show and that was all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 03, 2004 at 09:05:14 PT Jesse Ventura's America... How often does he do a show? once a month? Ever since his show on the war on drugs, havent seen him on. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by RasAric on January 03, 2004 at 08:04:41 PT Happy New Year to you also FoM ....and Happy New Year to all of you soldiers out there in the war for human rights.Although I am saddened to find that my right to vote in Minnesota has been negated I will do so anyways in hopes that this next Christmas will be with the Kucinich Administration!!!A felon who has lost the right to vote after having served their time is still a political prisoner until laws change or until that person moves to a state with different laws. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by Gary Storck on January 03, 2004 at 07:43:12 PT Over 80% support in WI In Feb. 2002, Is My Medicine Legal YET? released a pol we commissioned on support for mmj in Wisconsin. It found 80.3% support statewide, with little variation among those identifying themselves as GOP, Democrat or Independent or any other demographic. Opponents are in the minority. They represent like 16%. IMMLY WI MMJ POLL [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by mayan on January 03, 2004 at 05:42:15 PT 80% "Underheim himself, in the meantime, said Friday that it's a "long shot" because of concerns, at least in part, about public reaction.Folks in Madison, in other words, think the average dolt is too dense to differentiate between a dealer providing a fix and a doctor providing relief."What concerns about public reaction? 80%(at least) of Americans support a sick person's right to use medical cannabis. How can these politicians keep whining like this is a third-rail issue? The time is here when a politician will lose votes if they aren't for medical cannabis. It is,in fact,my litmus test from now on. Is the politician humane...or are they not?The way out is the way in...2004 -- The Year of the Law and of Living Dangerously - by Michael C. Ruppert: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/123103_danger.html9/11 Prior Knowledge/Government Involvement Archive: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge Mariani vs. Bush - The 9/11 Lawsuit: http://www.septembereleventh.org/ellenmariani.php [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by OverwhelmSam on January 03, 2004 at 05:03:18 PT: Lesser of Two Evils Dean will probably garner the Democratic Nomination for president. I will vote for Democratic Nominee, not because I agree with his views, but because Bush needs to be fired. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by The GCW on January 03, 2004 at 05:02:31 PT Anthem War in Iraq cited as reason for '04 Bush defeat Published in the Ocean County Observer 01/03/04 In a recent article, Ron Cohen asked the question, "Is Iraq starting to smell like Vietnam?" The answer surely must be, "Of course it is! Very much so!" The facts are abundantly clear to anyone who is not blind that all of George W. Bush's justifications for this war have been based upon half-truths and outright lies. There are no "weapons of mass destruction" -- never were. Doubtless, Bush and his advisors knew this all along. Nonetheless, our fearless leader still talks about them as if they do exist.I wonder if he actually believes his own claptrap or has the habit of lying to his countrymen so jaded him that it no longer matters to him what is a real threat and what is an imagined or invented one?As for this war representing a "liberation" of the Iraqi people, and/or the dethroning of a tyrant, I cannot help but wonder why it is so important to Bush to "liberate" these people and dethrone this particular tyrant. We have cordial business relations with most of the dictators and tyrants of this world and have little or no desire to "liberate" the billions who suffer under those dictators and tyrants. So why is it so important to Bush, to America, and to the world to "liberate" Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein?The truth, of course, is that it wasn't really important to anyone but Bush and those around him -- nor was it particularly important to the Iraqi people themselves, judging by their violence toward us and their feverish repudiation of all that we claim to represent.Despite this, our exalted leader continues to insist upon having his way and apparently it does not matter to him how many American lives this insanity costs.Bush will be up for re-election in less than one year. It is my hope and prayer that he is defeated. Soundly defeated. Repudiated as no other candidate before ever has been repudiated.The alternative, his re-election, is unthinkable. For if a "first-termer" like George W. Bush, who wants a second term badly, would get us into an unnecessary war by lying to us and trying to deceive the rest of the world, as this president has done, just imagine what horrible mischief a second term Bush, with absolutely nothing to lose, will mean.This president was, and is, dangerous. We should remember this fact each and every day until the November 2004 election is over and, hopefully, the Bush administration is a thing of the past.CHARLES LEVENSON Beachwoodfrom the Ocean County Observer Published on January 3, 2004http://www.injersey.com/news/backstories.pl?id=880752&paper=9 [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by The GCW on January 03, 2004 at 04:49:23 PT Small Discrepancy (along with the others...) "Nobody is advocating legalization of marijuana for fun."Actually, that is not true.In case You haven't heard: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL: "DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml In case You haven't heard: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL: "DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml In case You haven't heard: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL: "DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml That is how many fit on one sheet of paper, which You can cut into 3 and pass them out because people are not getting this vital info. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by SystemGoneDown on January 02, 2004 at 22:03:14 PT Dean Supporters... LOL, good one............you wont find one anywhere on this site. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by professional391 on January 02, 2004 at 21:53:56 PT: More of his same Isn't Dean the only Governor to date to veto a passed mmj bill? [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by breeze on January 02, 2004 at 21:35:29 PT Dean supporters- look here http://www.granitestaters.com/guide/dean.htmlAnd if you do not want to read the entire article, here is the synopsis:"What Dean's statements mean: Dean's most recent statement ignores the fact that the DEA does not raid individual cancer patients, as Dean seemed to claim. The current DEA policy is to raid hospice-like organizations that provide medical marijuana to patients. Dean left open the possibility that he would continue these cruel raids on caregivers that interrupt the flow of medicine to thousands of sick and dying patients."Speaks for itself, more or less. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment