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Ad Targets High Marijuana Use Among Nevada Teens
Posted by CN Staff on December 29, 2003 at 14:27:50 PT
By Mike Zigler, City Life Staff Writer
Source: Las Vegas City Life 
In November, the D.C.-based Marijuana Policy Project aired an interesting television ad, comparing Nevada teens to teens in Amsterdam. On one side, the split-screen ad featured somber Nevada teens wearing T-shirts reading 67 percent. The other side spotlighted some cheery Dutch kids wearing T-shirts that read 28 percent.The message: Two-thirds of Nevada high school seniors have taken a toke of marijuana, while more than two-thirds of Dutch teens haven't. While some could see the ad as anti-drug because it draws alarm to teen drug use, the MPP is a group that staunchly supports the legalization of marijuana.
Its view is this: marijuana is not legal in the Netherlands, but its government makes a conscious decision not to enforce marijuana possession laws. The Dutch government has placed restrictions on marijuana's sale and use, including age restrictions. Regulating marijuana by taking it off the street makes it harder for kids to obtain marijuana, said Krissy Oechslin, MPP's assistant director of communications."The Netherlands is a good example of how regulating the sale and use of marijuana can reduce teen use, as opposed to the U.S., which refuses to regulate marijuana and basically creates a free-for-all where anyone can get it," Oechslin said. "Drug dealers don't card people who want to buy from them."Like with most dishonorable rankings, Nevada's percentage was one of the worst in the country with teen marijuana use -- an obvious reason MPP targeted the Silver State."The numbers of lifetime use of marijuana by teens is particularly shocking with Nevada," Oechslin said. "We chose Nevada's 67 percent because it is such a great contrast with the Netherlands."The MPP only aired the ad in Reno, but Oechslin said the group is currently evaluating its success and impact. Based on the findings, the MPP will decide whether to run the ad elsewhere in the state. The group would not disclose the cost of the campaign.Oechslin noted that her organization has no immediate political plans in Nevada for the 2004 election season. The ad was simply a public education campaign.Last year, the MPP lead the surge to legalize marijuana in Nevada, funneling $2 million into promoting Question 9. The ballot initiative -- if it was successful in 2002 and again in 2004 -- would have nixed the threat of arrest for responsible marijuana use, or possession of up to three ounces. It also looked to implement a government system to obtain marijuana through a regulated market, and impose penalties for marijuana abuse, such as driving under the influence and providing it to minors.The campaign failed as 61 percent Nevada voters were against the measure.Mike Zigler is a CityLife staff writer.Complete Title: Pot Shot: Ad Targets High Marijuana Use Among Nevada TeensSource: Las Vegas City Life (NV)Author: Mike Zigler, City Life Staff WriterPublished: Monday, December 29, 2003Copyright: 2003 Las Vegas City LifeContact: obrien lvpress.comWebsite: http://www.lasvegascitylife.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:MPPhttp://www.mpp.org/Stop Teen Usehttp://www.stopteenuse.com/Legal Pot Supporters Back With New Tactichttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17848.shtmlMarijuana Ad Has Both Sides Talkinghttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17840.shtmlSmokin' Airwaves - Reno News & Review http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17839.shtml 
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Comment #34 posted by sukoi on December 30, 2003 at 16:08:22 PT
Dire Straits
Of course, I should have known, because I have that CD! Just tired I guess! Thank all of you so much, I just replied to several comments, one from a LEO (a prison guard I think) who was spouting off about this Act and that Act. etc. (most of it fairly irrelavent) and I was able to use a bunch of information that all of you provided here. If all of us do that in various forums, it can't help but have an impact! I can't tell you how much I appreciate all of the help that you provide and your willingness to do so. I don't think that I have ever come across a friendlier more helpful group of people in my life, and it would certainly be hard to top!
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Comment #33 posted by Virgil on December 30, 2003 at 09:26:41 PT
I say CIA gets $3 billion in Federal budget
I questioned the fact tat the CIA operted on its own funds to when I heard it on television about 3 months ago. There budget is hidden and the Asian Times article I just read says they get about $3 billion a year in funding. That is what I get for believing the experts on television.Anything to do with the CIA is hard to figure out. The illegal drug trade is too big and the CIA too powerful not to be involved in it somehow. We do have the Iran-Contra hearings lead by Kerry that had involvement of the CIA in the cocaine trade to fund the Contras with weapons to know they are there somewhere.
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Comment #32 posted by E_Johnson on December 29, 2003 at 22:50:28 PT
The full lyrics
These mist covered mountainsAre a home now for meBut my home is the lowlandsAnd always will beSome day you'll return toYour valleys and your farmsAnd you'll no longer burnTo be brothers in armThrough these fields of destructionBaptism of fireI've watched all your sufferingAs the battles raged higherAnd though they did hurt me so badIn the fear and alarmYou did not desert meMy brothers in armsThere's so many different worldsSo many different sunsAnd we have just one worldBut we live in different onesNow the sun's gone to hellAnd the moon's riding highLet me bid you farewellEvery man has to dieBut it's written in the starlightAnd every line on your palmWe're fools to make warOn our brothers in arms.
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Comment #31 posted by E_Johnson on December 29, 2003 at 22:40:35 PT
Dire Straits?
Brothers in Arms was an album by Dire Straits.It's an antiwar song. This is the final verse:Now the sun's gone to hellAnd the moon's riding highLet me bid you farewellEvery man has to dieBut it's written in the starlightAnd every line on your palmWe're fools to make warOn our brothers in armsI think the title song was on a Miami Vice episode. It has that Miami Vice feeling.Like they're in Vietnam except it's Miami. Hint hint.
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Comment #30 posted by Patrick on December 29, 2003 at 22:23:31 PT
CIA
While the CIA might not look like it has a budget on the books, the following site would suggest otherwise...http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/ciabud.htmPersonally, I am sure that much of the CIA's money comes from dirty deeds done dirt cheap by people of the same caliber as ole Ollie North. 
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Comment #29 posted by CorvallisEric on December 29, 2003 at 21:51:10 PT
Virgil - comment 28
The CIA gets no taxpayer supportI find that very hard to believe.
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Comment #28 posted by Virgil on December 29, 2003 at 21:41:33 PT
Yes it is about freedom
The issue of freedom is central to legalization. What do you think George Washington would think if he could come back and find that he would now be arrested for growing hemp and his plantation seized? So yes, it is about freedom.Even excluding freedom there is still the arguement of pragmatism. Why does the USG go to such extremes to enforse a harsh prohibition that only gives us high prices and make the term "controlled substance" an oxymoron. The black market brings us violence and property crimes and corruption while a consumer that hurts no one with his lifestyle is all but robbed.To me it is a matter of freedom first and I would never deny that. The Logical Conclusion of course is to regulate cannabis and that appeals to people who are pragmatic and cannot be won on a definition of freedom.As I have read in the last few years, I have expanded my view that all victimless crimes such as prostitution and gambling and drug use should not be moralized into criminal law.The one thing I hate in American politics is the way the religious right is lead by the nose with the issue of abortion. My position on abortion relates to these moralized criminal laws. I am pro choice and I will tell you why. A person that is pro life can be make the decision to not have an abortion under a pro choice policy. A person that is for the option of abortion does not have the choice of abortion under a pro life policy. One group is imposing its will on another under pro life and under pro choice both sides have the freedom to chose their own paths.One group of moralizers that can be manipulated by a government and its media just does not have the right to impose its judgement on someone else.What if the day comes that the planet no longer can support the billions that are here much less the billions that are to be born if the progression continues. From 6 to 7 billion should only take about 12 years. From 7 to 8 billion should only take 11 years. What happens when the pragmatics impose mandatory abortions to control population in the spirit of China. How would the group that wants there way and can have there way under both options now feel when they have no choice?There is a one, two punch of freedom and pragmatism at work. You would think that the worst way possible with the unbelievable expansion of charges and harsh penalties would have never happened. I say that prohibition is all about keeping the price of desirable products up so that the CIA can benefit and lead the world on to more militarization and more death and destruction as we decide the governments of the world in a quest for global domination. The CIA gets no taxpayer support, so where do they get all the money for all their toys and guns and bullets, and henchmen? Why does the media not answer the question? The answer to that of course is that the question is not allowed.
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Comment #27 posted by CorvallisEric on December 29, 2003 at 21:13:52 PT
Sukoi: trying to get specific
FoM, good explanation of trolls (comment 23), they're not dummies.I should have put comment 18 in this order:You've given me a valuable lead. Just meant that I can learn something from that thread. I'm interested how people respond, even if they are trolls. I hope the debate there continues.I see a fundamental problem in the way we present our issue. Basically, I don't like the he-said/she-said battle over the value of cannabis.She: "The sky is blue" He: "No, the sky is auburn" She: "No, it's blue" He: "No, it's auburn" She: "You're a moron" He: "You're an idiot"OK, I'm ridiculously oversimplifying it, but that's the way much of the cannabis debate looks to me. Quoting from Sukoi's Del Rio post [slightly edited]:I can't delude myself into thinking that there is nothing wrong with it, because I already KNOW that there is nothing wrong with it, in fact it is probably the most beneficial plant on Gods green earth (put here for us by God I should remind you).I'm just not yet prepared to say why I think this is the wrong argument. I need to study the arguments used in the Canadian Supreme Court case. Maybe they centered around the goodness/badness of cannabis; the media certainly gave this impression. If so, it may have been a strategic error.I don't know what the right argument is. Does it involve individual freedom? Social utility? Political corruption? I'm searching. Really sorry I don't have anything more constructive to say.
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Comment #26 posted by ekim on December 29, 2003 at 21:04:45 PT
Brothers and Sisters in Arms allright Direstraits
nice work Mayan, I am waiting for a TV spot with Jesse for Dennis. You know something like the Terminator and the Body with Todd M.that would make a good poster for the LG petition out west hey Virg. By the way neat mentioning evolution I only hope that Woody will do the movie of Todd. IS he out now Kapt. Dam they kept him Locked Up for years if Arnold does not use Todd as a [poster Man for the unjust treatment of the people he is missing a great moment in history. I hope I do not offend the many many more poor souls that are still rotting and suffering a most cruel and needless fate.
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Comment #25 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 20:27:39 PT
FoM and everyone
Thank you for the advice and the link, please don't stop there, I'm always open to new ideas. We are allies in this war, I like to think of it as "Brothers in Arms", Moody Blues I think! 
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Comment #24 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 20:16:22 PT
CorvallisEric: Wrong Thread 
Sorry about that, here is the correct link:http://www.delriolive.com/langtry/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=national&Number=5474&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1And please get more specific about this part of your comment:"I see a fundamental problem in the way we present our issue. You've given me a valuable lead."
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on December 29, 2003 at 20:15:22 PT
A Link That Helps
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/troll.htm
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on December 29, 2003 at 20:12:18 PT
sukoi 
This is something I would ask a person if I went on other boards to debate.Ask an average parents if they found out their teenage child was experimenting with marijuana should they go to jail? 
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Comment #21 posted by CorvallisEric on December 29, 2003 at 20:09:15 PT
Good point, Jose
"Troll" occured to me, too.
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Comment #20 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 20:04:31 PT
Thanks Virgil
I just want to get the message accross without making anyone turn against our cause. In other words, I want to get people to the point that they start to think "hmm, maybe they have a point, maybe this whole drug war thing is stupid, maybe we should try something different". Instead of " these are nothing but a bunch of stoners that just want to get high and don't give a damn about the world that surrounds them". My goal is to get people to think and realize what is really going on in the world around them, not to alienate them from the very same reasoning that could liberate the rest of us. I hope that this makes sense and that you all understand why your input is so valuable to me.
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Comment #19 posted by jose melendez on December 29, 2003 at 19:55:55 PT
sukoi
Try writing some short letters to editors. I think it has far higher impact than duking it out with some troll. Keep your comments honest, and you'll do more damage to the Wo(s)d* that way.
End the War On (Some) Drugs
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Comment #18 posted by CorvallisEric on December 29, 2003 at 19:46:08 PT
sukoi
The link in comment 1 sent me elsewhere, the following should work, and then you choose the thread:http://www.delriolive.com/langtry/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=nationalI see a fundamental problem in the way we present our issue. You've given me a valuable lead. Basically, I don't like the he-said/she-said battle over the value of cannabis. After enough time to think about it thoroughly, I hope to present my case one day.A minor point about style: some people find long paragraphs on message boards difficult to read.
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Comment #17 posted by Virgil on December 29, 2003 at 19:31:15 PT
sukoi, go with the flow
You worry too much. Just be yourself and have at it. But, I will say this. If someone is not for MMJ I would figurately pull their arms off and beat them with them. Just be yourself and speak with your own voice. The main thing is just to break the silence and grow the culture.What happens once you articulate a position and show an interest in the cannabis issue, people will look to you to keep them informed. You certainly have a position and you need to be able to articulate a defense. Just keep a presence and keep people informed of the big stuff. Just be yourself and tell it like you feel it. You cannot help the way you feel and it is universally accepted. Other people will feel differently but if it is from lack of thought or lack of fact, then they will see it when you explain yourself.But to tell you the truth, we really could change prohibition with the support we have if we would just vote out all prohibitionist politicians. Apathy and ignorance are in opposition to ending CP. 
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Comment #16 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 19:11:26 PT
Thanks Virgil
for the coloring tips, I appreciate that! I'll try them out soon!
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Comment #15 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 19:03:49 PT
Max Flowers
You are of course right, but I think that pissing the general public off just gives the prohibitionists more power, and I certainly don't want that. I think that the best way to get to the average American is through reasoning, and I think that the average American will respond if that reasoning is presented in a way that will make them sit back and think, or maybe do a little research, rather than just go out with a vengeance against us. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that attacking the general public would do nothing more than proliferate the prohibitionist cause much more than ours. Am I wrong about this?
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Comment #14 posted by goneposthole on December 29, 2003 at 17:50:29 PT
Cannabis isn't going to go away
From the looks of it, cannabis the plant has firmly ensconced itself into the social fabric of this nation. The crazier the US gov acts, the more cannabis there will be. Maybe It's a crazy observation, but it seems as though that is the way it is.Anyone who wants cannabis is able to get it anywhere.It's a foregone conclusion: Cannabis is here to stay.
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Comment #13 posted by Virgil on December 29, 2003 at 17:44:37 PT
sukoi
You add color by first typing "  "followed without space by 01,02,03,04,05,06.07,08, or 00. That changes black to a color. Everything after that will stay that color until you again give another intruction to change color. The color for black is 00 so to get back to black type followed directly by 00010203040506070800
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Comment #12 posted by Max Flowers on December 29, 2003 at 17:28:51 PT
Sukoi: If they get pissed, so be it
In my opinion, the time to "play nicely" on this issue has come and gone a long time ago. I don't care whose apple cart gets upset at this point, as long as truth gets out.MF
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Comment #11 posted by freedom fighter on December 29, 2003 at 17:28:26 PT
I'll try :)
I like your responses.. but try to write fewer paragrahps.Americans do have a short memory. Too much info and many will just drown out the message.English is my second language and I find that by writing and readin everyday, I will improve the knowledge of this language even if I get stoned! :)Keep up with what you are doing, you will get somewhere.paceff
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Comment #10 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 17:01:32 PT
freedom fighter 
I saw that, and if I know Mr. Wade, he will probably not respond at all, but I could be wrong. I certainly appreciate your input and would be glad to reciprocate in a forum local to you or anyone else for that matter. Anything for the freedom of humanity! BTW, I still want to know what you guys thought of my response; over the top, just right or not enough?
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Comment #9 posted by freedom fighter on December 29, 2003 at 16:40:22 PT
suk
check gar, that's me doing a mind test on Mr. Wade.. It would be interestin to see what he would say now..pazff
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Comment #8 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 16:25:01 PT
OOPS
comment #7 was not just for Virgil, but for everyone as was comment #4.
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Comment #7 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 16:17:28 PT
Virgil
Thank you, I appreciate that. Two questions: did you think that my reply to this guy was over the top, not enough or just right? I'm trying to hone my skills to go just far enough to get people to think, but not get people too pissed off. And secondly, how do you add color to your posts?
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Comment #6 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 29, 2003 at 16:12:06 PT
Virgil
Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of human evolutionI would have to add on to that by saying that it's not just Cannabis Prohibition. The "American Way" as a hole is a perversion of human evolution. The idea that human functions and behavior can be modified and controlled through systematic solutions is one that totally eludes the process of evolution. Marijuana Prohibition is just a tiny example of how evolution is haulted by man-made organizations, controlling the will of every individual.
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Comment #5 posted by Virgil on December 29, 2003 at 16:06:33 PT
sokoi
The reason all these words are thrown up here is so that people can get their thoughts together and develop the conviction and vocabulary and reasoning to end this dreadful prohibition.That is what gets me about us not having covered the messageboards. You do not even have to do much typing. You can copy and paste and put up links and break the silence that the incarcerationist insist on and survive by.So, yes, I guess. And be sure to learn to explain the Schedule One Lie in your words even if you use someone elses. Some people might think we are trying to just get people angry. I would say that the articles and links that go up are for education and what everyone hopes to do is inspire others to take up the cause and bring us to a Logical Conclusion.
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Comment #4 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 15:34:59 PT
Virgil and others
Would you mind if I use some of your quotes in posts that I make in some forums? You guys come up with some great ones that go straight to the point and I'd really like to be able to use them to change some minds, or at least try to! 
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Comment #3 posted by Virgil on December 29, 2003 at 15:20:30 PT
CP is a perversion....
Actually I was thinking about this about an hour ago instead of it just coming to me. I was really thinking about the religious right and the perversion that they have of their own religion. Then I thought how they are always talking about perversions of this or that like gaydom is a perversion of God's plan, whatever that is. You would think the Bible would have God's plan in there somewhere where I could download it, but no.That word "Perversion" gets them all riled up. So I knew I was at least going to say, Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion.When you expand on that it is like fishing out of a barrel. I am a little burnt out or I would go on with it, but I will at least say.Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of justice.Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of the American way.''Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of sensible drug abuse policy.Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion freedom.Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of Christian philosophy. Cannabis Prohibition is a perversion of human evolution.Perversion and evolution in one sentence. That should interfere with someone's blissful ignorance.I do not understand why MPP does not call for legalization in California. There are going to be lots of unemployed former prisoners that have real conviction on getting California out of the prohibition of laughing grass that would help with the petitions. I just do not get it. If they fail at breaking prohibition aren't they in the same place as they are now? You would think that they could get some compassion clubs to keep a clipboard in their place of compassioning. The present California is a perversion of everything Californian. When did it all change?
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Comment #2 posted by VitaminT on December 29, 2003 at 15:18:03 PT
It's hard to be tolerant
In the land of zero tolerance.Ask 'em why they love murder so much. Prohibition = Murder. I guess they tolerate alcohol just fine.
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Comment #1 posted by sukoi on December 29, 2003 at 15:12:59 PT
Have a look at this
This is the other kind of crap that I run into when trying to open up a discussion in this area on cannabis. Some may say that I was too hard on this guy, but I don't think so, what do you guys think?“I have zero respect for anyone who uses or finds acceptable the use of marijuana or other related drugs.”http://www.delriolive.com/langtry/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=state&Number=5387&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1
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