cannabisnews.com: Clearing The Haze Clearing The Haze Posted by CN Staff on December 19, 2003 at 20:19:32 PT A Register-Guard Editorial Source: Register-Guard Conservatives traditionally have argued for strict limits on federal authority. The Bush administration has turned that tradition on its head with its recent efforts to use federal law to overturn the laws of Oregon and the eight other states that allow their ailing citizens to use marijuana for medical purposes.On Tuesday, a panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals dealt a welcome blow to the habitually overreaching Bush administration by ruling that federal drug laws do not trump state medical marijuana laws. The decision marks the second recent court defeat for the federal government in its battle against the medical-marijuana movement. Earlier this year, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a 9th Circuit ruling that barred federal prosecutors from threatening to revoke the prescription rights of doctors who approved marijuana use for their patients.Is anyone in the White House or Justice Department reading these rulings? Doing so would persuade them to give up this fight.The latest case involves a seizure last year by federal drug agents of marijuana used by a number of people throughout California, including Diane Monson of Oroville, who uses marijuana to treat chronic and severe back pain. Monson and Angel M. Raich, an Oakland, Calif., woman who uses marijuana for an inoperable brain tumor, sued U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft in federal court. Both women, who are using marijuana at the recommendation of their doctors, asked the court to bar the federal government from confiscating their marijuana or taking punitive action against them.The court panel's majority sided with the two women, stating that "intrastate, noncommercial cultivation, possession and use of marijuana for personal medical purposes on the advice of a physician is, in fact, different from drug trafficking.'' The federal government, the justices added, has the power to pass laws against trafficking in drugs, but ``the cultivation, possession and use of marijuana for medicinal purposes and not for exchange or distribution is not properly characterized as commercial or economic activity.''The two-member majority of the panel based its ruling on two U.S. Supreme Court decisions about the principles of federalism. In both cases, one involving a federal law banning guns in schools and another allowing federal prosecutions of violent crimes against women, the high court struck down federal laws on the grounds that they overstepped the federal government's constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce.Despite these canons of conservatism, it seems unlikely that either the Bush or Ashcroft will now abandon their misguided quest to overturn state medical marijuana laws.Congress, however, could easily end this needless conflict. Under federal law, marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 controlled substance - a drug that has no accepted medical use. Other Schedule 1 drugs include crack cocaine or heroin. Congress should reclassify marijuana as a Schedule 2 drug. like morphine - one that is still illegal, but that has recognized medical uses.Such a sensible move by Congress would leave states free to decide for themselves whether to allow marijuana to be used for medical purposes without interference by an overreaching and meddlesome federal government.Complete Title: Clearing The Haze: Appeals Court Rules for Medical Marijuana LawSource: Register-Guard, The (OR)Published: December 19, 2003Copyright: 2003 The Register-GuardContact: rgletters guardnet.comWebsite: http://www.registerguard.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:Hemp & Cannabis Foundationhttp://www.thc-foundation.org/Raich v. Ashcroft in PDFhttp://freedomtoexhale.com/ruling.pdfWhere’s The Compassion?http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18003.shtmlFederalism Wins - National Reviewhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18002.shtmlOroville Woman at Center of Medical Pot Ruling http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17997.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #28 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 12:32:03 PT Max Flowers I think that our country acts like a bad father. A domineering, verbally abusive and just very mean spirited man. He is always confusing his children until they don't know how to please him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by Virgil on December 21, 2003 at 12:26:38 PT Max, you have escaped. U made it out of the box. Time Magazine of the TimeWarner media empiere is doing the politically correct thing and doing a wonderful job of herding the thoughts of the sheep by naming the American soldier as the Man of the Year- http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2003/story.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by FoM on December 21, 2003 at 12:15:43 PT Max Flowers It is a rude awakening isn't it? [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by Max Flowers on December 21, 2003 at 11:59:46 PT Rumsfeld embracing Afghani opium kingpins Now on the scale of blatant hypocrisy, this one is off the charts, a shameless and sickening display of double standards that every citizen of the United States with two brain cells to rub together should be totally outraged by. Yet it hardly gets a mention.According to their own Drug War, instead of hugging and shaking hands with these guys we should be hunting down these men and dragging them back to the US for (illegal) prosecution as we did with Manuel Noriega! Remember him? Sure you do, we invaded Panama, raked city streets with gunfire, blew up buildings, killed innocents and Panamanian soldiers who were defending their country, kidnapped Noriega and brought him to the US where he rots in some secret federal holding cell somewhere. Charged with cocaine trafficking.That's what these US administrations do, they're like a psychopathic pimp. They cozy up to these leaders when it suits their purposes, seduce them with money and promises, then a few years later when it's convenient for the US, decide they're not their buddies anymore, call them "criminal" and "terrorist" and turn on them with a deadly vengeance, ruining further our national reputation, killing civilians and getting many of your beautiful, naive young troops killed and maimed in the process.It is beyond morally reprehensible, apalling, sickening, yet it is the way of this nation, I see now, and I am so deeply ashamed to be associated in any way with it that it makes me just want out. Because the more I think about this and all the related corruption, the more I feel it gnawing on my soul and I suspect that's where cancer comes from. I'd rather let it go sometimes, and just not be an American anymore. But no matter where I made a new life, I know it would gnaw at me still, knowing that my country is still being degraded and corrupted and plundered and besmirched daily by these criminals in power who call themselves patriots but in obvious truth are the furthest thing from true patriots that they could possibly be. Not leaders at all, they are in fact robbers and thugs.The only thing I have to hang on to alot of the time is the knowledge that robbers and thugs usually get what's coming to them in the end. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by jose melendez on December 21, 2003 at 04:51:59 PT drug war tables turned from: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1948/a11.html?397 Despite all its fulminations about wiping out the global drug trade, the US government is once again turning a blind eye to the trade when some of its key allies are the ones overseeing the drug running. The country in question is Afghanistan, by far the world's largest opium producer, and the allies with dirty hands are some of that violence-torn country's warlords. Despite longstanding allegations linking warlords including Abdul Rashid Dostum and Ustad Attas Mohammed to the opium trade, US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld publicly embraced the pair at a meeting in Afghanistan early this month. The defense secretary was . . .(practically) . . . congratulating the warlords for their role in supplying Western Europe with cheap heroin. (practice) [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by The GCW on December 20, 2003 at 20:02:35 PT jose melendez, Very interesting footage.This is added to so much info that seems to implicate Jr.Jr. is desperate. He can attack on many facets to distract from many other facets.As We find out about 911, it will make Him wiggle, and that is about to jump out like crazy all over Him. There will be more and not less talk about impeaching the little brat. Impeachment may grow to the ultimate penalty, delivered by the only one who can righteously deliver it.He / they may be figuring We will find out about 911, and only has to attain an objective before that time.Earth has not seen the level of evil Jr. & Co. is able to inflict.-Desperate, He must be.-Desperate and out of control.(It seems) There is a calculated effort being played out that seems to reach over toward spiritual kinds of wars.Something so blatent it implicates its desperation.I wanna say,Naaa!But there is too much.With every breath Jr. takes He seems to be the more, the self condemned.If there are people out there reading this, and You are questioning Your support for Bush; escape now and repent to Christ God Our Father, and do it now. Stop supporting Bush & Co. and support Christ God Our Father.The Green Collar Worker. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by Nuevo Mexican on December 20, 2003 at 19:52:15 PT Have no fear, that is the only weapon they have! With the orange and red alerts and all that mind control bs, the media is a slave to the bush administrations phoney safeguards! Hook, line and sinker, or maybe payola, limos, celebrity treatment and immunity from prosecution ala Rush Limbaugh. Bushsickness. It's chronic.But judges are seeing the light, as they are the last defenders of democracy, if they choose to see it that way, instead of 'servants for capitalism, and property rights over human rights'. You know, it can always go both ways. So here is some great news!FTAA/Miami Judge: I Saw Police Commit Felonies A judge who said he witnessed some of the anti-free trade protests complains in open court about how police handled the demonstrations. by Amy Driscoll http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1220-03.htmTodays truth, by Dennis Kucinich:Kucinich: Dems Are Throwing Election to Bush FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE December 19, 2003 FT. DODGE, IOWA - Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich spoke today to gatherings of Democrats in Toledo, Marshalltown, and Ft. Dodge, Iowa, and said at each stop that if the Democrats side with President Bush on the military occupation of Iraq, they risk losing to Bush in next year's election. Kucinich made the following points:All of the other Democratic presidential candidates in the Iowa caucuses support continuing the U.S. military occupation of Iraq. If the Democratic presidential candidates concede the military occupation of Iraq to Bush, they will risk forfeiting the election.http://www.kucinich.us/pressreleases/pr_121903.phpSlowly, it's making its way into the media, (shhhh, you know, Dennis kucinich, says he'll treat pot like alcohol, don't tell anyone, don't let this get out, you know he'll win the primarys and even the presidency if anyone ever finds out, here's a couple a grand not to print the story!)LOL!MR. FUN GUY'S BACK WITH ANOTHER FUN FUN FUN ENTRY!Ooookay ... after about 23 hours, my "marijuana poll" (mmmmm...what I wouldn't give for a pole of marijuana right about now...) states that out of 1,093 of you, 633 have smoked at least once and 460 of you have never touched the weed. That's a percentage of 58% to 42%.It's a much tighter margin than I expected. Then again ... many of you were probably stoned when you took the poll and were either super paranoid that you were about to be arrested as you clicked "Yes" or you were so messed up you accidentally clicked "No".Regardless ... there's a method to my madness.Dennis Kucinich is running for President. http://unclebob.diaryland.com/031211_87.htmlWhat were really up against:Corruption claim governor says he was called by God By David Rennie (Filed: 19/12/2003) The governor of the strait-laced New England state of Connecticut has rejected calls for his resignation over corruption allegations, saying he is in direct contact with God.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/19/wgod19.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/12/19/ixportal.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=125887The Burden of Truth Two former CIA analysts talk about the lies behind the Iraq war and the heavy weight of conscience. by Rose Marie Berger and Jim Ricehttp://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0311&article=031110Lets help this guy out, George Soros should have a grant or something for this station:Dreams of ‘Gritty’Radio Go Up in Flames by Rebekah Brooks A fledgling radio station that just made its debut this year suffered a huge loss on Monday when the building it is housed in burned in a fire that destroyed 90 percent of the building and all of the station’s equipment. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1220-05.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 19:16:42 PT big left outside Al Giordano posted my comments supporting caging our habitual prohibitionist brothers and sisters, and replied in kind, at: http://www.bigleftoutside.com/comments/5/ Crooks with guns and badges fight pot, but drink, smoke and pop pills. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by The GCW on December 20, 2003 at 18:59:37 PT Let the spirit of truth give You Your comfort.. Sadam is George W. and George is Sadam is Osama.If George attacks America again, things will seem pretty Biblical.I think it would be best to find a place with in You to not be very afraid right now.One of the benefits of obeying Christ God Our Father is the ability and hopefully the reality of the spirit of truth with in Your conceptions. With that there is a sense of confirmation that allows the acceptance that if this is Biblical, it can only be good, if You obey. -see John 14-16Obey: simplified: To love Your brother…It is that simple.So those who support the murder and the cagings do not get it…If I was a murderer, and the whip comes down, I would have to soil My pants.*Let’s put it this way: if it is, He who kills the most…, that goes to heaven, then I believe that Bush will go to heaven.About the best thing We can do for the Jr. Bush is to save His ass. It would be good to pray for George W. Bush. If anyone needs it it is Him. He is worthy of Our prayers. I pray that My brother George would let go of the rebellion and accept the truth all on eternal levels of truth. May Christ God Our Father reach Him, for the glory of truth. Strike Him with the love of Christ God Our Father, and show Him how to love the same.George must stop his habit of murder. George must stop caging His brother for using a plant and what ever else He’s doing in like kind…Right now it may beyond thinking about America and extends to thinking about Urantia.It would be hard for Bush to set the record for murder if Sadam wasn't stopped.Bush is throwing sand in Sadam's eyes.How many has Sadam murdered?How long till Bush catches Up? Has He already surpassed Sadam?Has any other living American killed as many Americans as the Jr. Bush.The little bush.Clinton caged more citizens for using cannabis than Reagan and Bush and Nixon combined I think... IS BUSH GOING TO TAKE THAT RECORD TOO?I'm sorry brother Jr. Bush, if I seem a bit harsh but You are making healthy people puke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 18:54:12 PT choose your battles Mayan, Things are not always as they seem. There's no solid proof that "(t)hey did it once" if at all. For all we know it was a huge hostage situation, with our people forced to stand down due to some greater threat, real or perceived.We can prove that "they" have lots to gain by suppressing cannabis, and we have made gains in proving safety, efficacy, ameliorative and even anticarcinogenic properties, certainly the public is responding indignantly across the globe at the crimes of our oppressors. But unless you can get someone in the Bush Administration to leak ar admit that they really knew, it comes across as crying wolf, especially if you are wrong about the specifics. There is a larger, more demonstrable evil at hand: Cannabis prohibition.That said, I am a bit puzzled by pictures I found online, and posted at:http://65.18.211.65/terror/explain.htmlalso, from: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/towerblast.html"The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31. However, the Palisades seismic record shows that—as the collapses began —a huge seismic “spike” marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the Earth. "There's some unnerving stuff, like at: http://www.proparanoid.com/OK1.htm#colorand: http://ontario.indymedia.ca/twiki/bin/view/Archives/ImcOntario7336and here: http://www.proparanoid.com/OK2.htm#fraudWarning: the above sites seem to be trolled and spiked with misinformation and questionable assumptive conclusions. What makes me revisit these questions is not the conspiracy theories, but official postings like this, from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/history/deahistory_01.htmThe DEA was still a new agency when tragedy struck the Miami Field Division. On August 5, 1974, at 10:24 a.m., the roof of the Miami office came crashing down, killing seven and trapping others in a pile of twisted steel and concrete. Between 125 and 150 people worked in the building. Those who died included: Special Agent Nicholas Fragos; Mary Keehan, Secretary to the Acting Regional Director; Special Agent Charles Mann; Anna Y. Mounger, Secretary; Anna Pope, Fiscal Assistant; Martha D. Skeels, Supervisory Clerk-Typist; and Mary P. Sullivan, Clerk-Typist. Although the people who were in the building thought it was an explosion or an earthquake, officials initially theorized that the dozens of cars in the parking facility on the roof were too heavy for the six-inch-thick slab of concrete supporting them. Later, it was found that the resurfaced parking lot, coupled with salt in the sand, had eroded and weakened the supporting steel structure of the building. The section that collapsed contained a processing room and a laboratory. The building was erected in 1925, and in 1968 had undergone a full engineering inspection, at which time it was cleared to house DEA offices.and also, from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/history/deahistory_06.htm#60Kenneth G. McCullough Died on April 19, 1995 DEA Special Agent McCullough was killed when a car bomb exploded outside the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.Carrol June Fields Died on April 19, 1995 Carrol June Fields, a DEA Office Assistant, was killed in the Oklahoma City bombing.Rona L. Chafey Died on April 19, 1995 Cleveland County Sheriff's Office Secretary Rona L. Chafey, who worked in a DEA, State, and Local Task Force, was killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. Shelly D. Bland Died on April 19, 1995 DynCorp Legal Technician Shelly D. Bland, who was working under contract to the DEA, was killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. Carrie A. Lenz Died on April 19, 1995 DynCorp Legal Technician Carrie A. Lenz and her unborn son, Michael James Lenz III, were killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. Note that DynCorp. contractors are said to be currently flying OV-10 aircraft equipped with poison spray to 'combat' coca and (IMHO) increase poppies in and around Colombia and Peru.Drug war is counterproductive, to say the least. But crime pays! Especially if you have laws funding your industry.See also:http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EL20Aa01.htmlhttp://www.modbee.com/local/story/7904315p-8782136c.html drug laws deemed unconstitutional [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by mayan on December 20, 2003 at 16:46:00 PT GCW... I am very afraid right now. With the 9/11 commission's admission that it "could've and should've been prevented" and Tuesday's big decision coming up, Bush needs a distraction. They are considering raising the terror threat level...although there has been no increase in "chatter", no specific dates,times or targets and no credible reports of impending attacks! The timing of this is very suspect. These madmen will do anything to sustain their power. They did it once. They can do it again. Terror Alert Level May Be Raised - Government Officials To Meet Monday To Mull Decision: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/topstories_story_354081913.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 14:14:17 PT http://65.18.211.65/ = http://dvdeland.com/ Yippie, I've registered dvdeland.com, but the ad agency - video mastering and duplcation house is not open yet, and I feel it would confuse the issue to mix my activism with that media production business, since search engine robots are picking up on the url.A local host provider works with me closely in exchange for help with his video projects. criminalize prohibition [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 20, 2003 at 13:12:44 PT Big Left Outside and Rush Limbaugh If the world learned one thing from Rush Limbaugh it should have been that people can work stoned. That is why the Chinese smoked opium at the turn of the last century, to make it through the horrors of the factory. Jose - I am a big fan of Alex Giordano he is right but the problem with that idea is the second ammendment people hate the the seperation of church and state which is part of the first ammendments freedom of religion. People are way too selfish to see past their own interests. Rush wants his medical records private but he cheers Ashcrotches radical erosion of privacy. Jose how do you host your site and why haven't you registered a domain name? [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by ekim on December 20, 2003 at 07:45:28 PT Michelle Shocked Benefit Concert for the Candidate for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Dennis J.KucinichMichelle Shocked Sunday, Dec. 28, 2003 8:00 p.m. Cleveland, OhioLimited Seating General admission tickets $20Pre-concert reception with Michelle and special guests, plus preferred seating 6:00 p.m. $60 100 seats availableBeachland Ballroom and Tavern 15711 Waterloo Road Cleveland, OH 44110 216-383-1124 www.beachlandballroom.comTickets for sale only through the Beachland Ballroom and Tavern, over the phone or in person.Check out Michelle's website www.michelleshocked.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 06:57:41 PT big left outside from: http://www.bigleftoutside.com/archives/000233.php" . . . if enthusiasts of the Second Amendment could make an alliance with enthusiasts of the First Amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights, a permanent majority could be forged for freedom in the United States."Al Giordano guns in schools are brought by crooks [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by The GCW on December 20, 2003 at 06:54:53 PT Don Nord / Steamboat Update. US CO: Equipment likely returned Coming soon to MAP, I think, (I am having trouble getting stuff to be posted)JoD, I have lost Your E-mail address,,, please E-mail to Me, pleeeeease.Pubdate: Dec. 20, 2003 Source: Steamboat Pilot & Today, The (CO)Viewed at: http://www.steamboatpilot.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/20947 Equipment likely returned Marijuana-growing supplies may go back to Hayden resident By Susan Bacon, Pilot & Today Staff Saturday, December 20, 2003 Marijuana-growing equipment that was seized during a police search likely will be returned to a Hayden resident by next Tuesday.But whether the 2 ounces of marijuana and seeds that also were seized from the man who uses the drug for medicinal purposes will be returned remains to be seen, officials from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said.Routt County Judge James Garrecht ruled earlier this month that the drugs and equipment should be returned to 57-year-old Don Nord by Dec. 29. The ruling had to account for conflicting state and federal rules. According to state law, marijuana can be grown and used by people with certain medical conditions. But under federal law, the drug is illegal.On Thursday, the DEA decided to return the growing equipment to a state officer, Denver-based DEA spokesman Dan Reuter said.The assumption is that the state officer, who could be an official with the Hayden Police Department or GRAMNET, the Grand, Routt and Moffat Narcotics Enforcement Team, will then return the equipment to Nord, Reuter said.GRAMNET, a federal task force made up of local officers, conducted the search of Nord's home in mid-October.The marijuana, Reuter said, will be destroyed."That decision was made at the outset," Reuter said. "It was never the DEA's intention to return the marijuana."Attorney Kristopher Hammond, who is representing Nord, said he was under the impression that the Drug Enforcement Administration had decided to comply with the judge's orders and return everything -- including the marijuana -- during a scheduled meeting at 2:30 p.m. Tuesday."My understanding is they're going to comply with the court order," Hammond said."Either they comply with it, or they don't comply with it. Returning some of (the property) isn't complying with the court order."If the administration chose to destroy the marijuana and didn't comply with the order, Hammon said, "We're going to try to make them."After Colorado voters approved medicinal marijuana use in 2000, the state became one of nine to legalize medicinal marijuana.Nord, who has battled kidney cancer, diabetes, a lung disease and other illnesses, is registered with the state's Medical Marijuana Registry.After the search, Nord was issued a citation for the possession of between 1 and 8 ounces of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia. Those charges were dismissed, Garrecht said, because the citation was filed late.Nord had more than the state-mandated limit of 2 ounces of usable drug, officers said, which put him out of compliance with the state rule.The case could be appealed or sent to a federal court if the administration and other federal agencies decide to take it further.-- To reach Susan Bacon, call 871-4203 or e-mail sbacon steamboatpilot.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 06:36:32 PT re: virgil comment #2 I'm also looking for a database driven flash generator. Be careful with the settings, it also asks if you want to yield camera and microphone access to foulds2000.freeserve.co.uk shooting fish in barrel is not fighting crime [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by The GCW on December 20, 2003 at 06:15:49 PT Desperation of a Jr. Bush. Somehow I am getting this, that the Bush’s CIA influenced U.S. Fed. Does not want the Cannadian word out from the Canadian Supreme court on Tues. and they don’t want it so bad, that they are willing to go balistic before it happens. Is the Bush administration now with the capture of Sadam able to start the next wheels in motion, that they have up their sleeve? They have been leading up to something to allow Bush a safe perch to bask on. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the media start its week on Monday with a bang.Bush will throw sand in Your eyes to win. The Green Collar Worker [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 04:41:04 PT LTE: War On Drugs Called 'Ultimate Hypocrisy' from: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1943/a08.html?397" Our senators and representatives have conveniently exempted themselves from drug testing while Drug Czar Walters tours the country pressuring school boards to implement drug testing for our children. The hypocrisy of this is so thick it stinks. " tell it like it is [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by mayan on December 20, 2003 at 04:26:08 PT oops... CorvallisEric already answered my question regarding the time limit in which to appeal! Thanks! [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by mayan on December 20, 2003 at 04:17:25 PT EJ... You bring up very good points. Politically, Bush can't afford to have Asscrotch appeal this before the elections because the American people are overwhelmingly supportive of medical cannabis and state's rights. They can't really afford not to immediately appeal either because the longer the 9th Circuit ruling stands the farther the cat will have run after being let out of the bag! Is there a time limit in which they have to appeal? Bush desperately needs a suspension of The Constitution.The way out is the way in...Intimidated by FBI, Witnesses Claim 9/11 "Coverup in Progress" In Florida: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/ec/37/200312161027.9981e3ea.html9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/main589137.shtml9/11 conspiracy theory debated: http://www.theconcordian.com/news/2003/11/19/News/8BDC58DA-3717-4C4F-86C9-9534CD41D7C5.shtml9/11 For the Truth - Mariani vs. Bush: http://www.911forthetruth.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by The GCW on December 20, 2003 at 03:58:18 PT I don't think We'll hear anything right before Christmas.Bush is evil, but to make this announcement, now would be bringing it out of the closet.Bush wants to be more covert with His taste for blood.He sure knows how unpopular it would be to continue this.The Media, bringing up the past news on this issue, is mainly bringing up the good wins We have and not remembering the losses We've had recently.Most of the press available (& there's a LOT) on this news just out in the last few days, is skewed toward citizens needs."Court of Appeals dealt a welcome blow to the habitually overreaching Bush administration"I am waiting for the MORE welcome blow!And speaking of Oregon, notice We don't hear reference about Oregon's suicide law, that Bush had a problem with.& How does that relate to the suicide bombings on the other side of the world? Is that what Bush was fighting in Oregon... the prospect of Oregonians blowing themselves up next to a Bush?I don't support suicide bombers, but I do support another "welcome blow", for the worst President in My lifetime. Perhaps the next blow will come from Cannada Tuesday morning.420And in case You haven't heard: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL: "DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php Kucinich will end this fight in the courts. [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by CorvallisEric on December 20, 2003 at 03:24:31 PT billos Time limits to appeal:[Charles Miller, a Justice Department spokesman] said Justice Department lawyers are currently reviewing the ruling to determine whether to appeal. He said federal lawyers have 45 days to go to the full 9th Circuit — considered one of the more liberal courts in the nation — or 90 days to appeal to the Supreme Court.http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/17/thread17987.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by CorvallisEric on December 20, 2003 at 03:06:24 PT Will Ashcroft appeal? Especially with the timing, it's probably got them in a bind. There might be serious disagreement within the Administration on how to proceed - possibly even jeopardizing Ashcroft's future......which prompts me to play back my favorite quote of the week:Not too many people get to come up against someone who is as evil as John Ashcroft and actually win and that feels very good. -- Angel McClary Raichhttp://www.cannabisnews.com/news/17/thread17996.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by billos on December 20, 2003 at 02:53:08 PT: ashcroft ..won't appeal it until after the November election in '04. God help us all should bush win another 4 years. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by E_Johnson on December 19, 2003 at 23:36:27 PT Will Ashcroft appeal? If there weren't an election coming up then I think Bush would have a win/win situation if Ashcroft took this to the Supreme Court. If the 9th is overruled, Bush wins. If the 9th is upheld, something Bush claims to believe in wins. But it's an election year and so it's a lose/lose situation instead.Because if Bush wins the Supreme Court, he's beating up on sick people and that's sad and bad for his image. If Bush loses, then a couple of disabled women marijuana users whipped his ass in the Supreme Court and that's also bad for his image.So instead of having a win/win situation, he has a lose/lose situation, if the Supreme Court decision from his appeal would be coming out in October 2004.That's what I think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by Virgil on December 19, 2003 at 22:47:46 PT For the creative technocannabisbrain I have to use cannabisbrain because I am running out of things to say. It sure sounds better than pothead.I only put this up so some might see what will be coming in the War Against Prohibiton and maybe someone can use it in the creative process.- http://www.foulds2000.freeserve.co.uk/bushv6.htmYou chose a block and move the cursor to make something happen. The third one from the end lets you put in a picture. The last one will load a larger set of options.If you right click in Windows you see the word "encoding." This will give you the code for what is producing the webpage. Now this is where I wonder about copyright on the code. Is there a way to tell if portions of this code are legal to copy. Is there freeware or Linux do such things?It is a hint of some things to come from the video world. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by Virgil on December 19, 2003 at 20:44:41 PT Congratulations. You are promoted to 2nd grade. Congress, however, could easily end this needless conflict. Under federal law, marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 controlled substance - a drug that has no accepted medical use. Other Schedule 1 drugs include crack cocaine or heroin. Congress should reclassify marijuana as a Schedule 2 drug. like morphine - one that is still illegal, but that has recognized medical uses.You have passed your exam on a basic cannabis issue. You are hereby promoted to second grade. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment