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Marijuana Act Clouds Antidrug Work Rules 
Posted by CN Staff on December 19, 2003 at 19:28:21 PT
By Brent Hunsberger
Source: Oregonian
Portland truck-maker Freightliner fired forklift driver John Thomas in January after the Teamster broke an overhead water line and subsequently tested positive for marijuana. Nearly a year later, the question of whether Thomas should be reinstated has ramifications for employers and employees statewide.  That's because in addition to his Teamster card, Thomas carries something else in his wallet he claims makes his firing illegal: a state-issued medical marijuana registration card, which gives him the right to treat chronic pain by smoking the drug. 
Freightliner has asked a federal judge to block a labor arbitrator's order that Thomas, a 41-year-old motorcycle enthusiast, be put back to work. Thomas, in turn, is suing the truck-maker for discrimination under Oregon's disabilities act. A federal appeals court ruled this week that the federal Controlled Substances Act does not trump laws in nine states, including Oregon, that allows medical marijuana use. That decision puts a spotlight on Thomas' case and two others filed in state court, each of which addresses the question of whether and how companies are allowed to use drug tests while accommodating workers with state permission to smoke marijuana. Freightliner and other companies say they need drug tests to ensure a safe and drug-free work site. Complicating matters further, some employers risk losing millions in federal contracts if they don't abide by federal drug-free workplace laws. "We are putting the employer in a difficult spot," said Klaus Martin, a McMinnville physician who performs worker-injury evaluations and drug tests for employers. "We're saying here we allow medical marijuana. Then we turn around and say, 'Hey, you have to provide a drug-free environment.' " Much is at stake for employees, too. Medical marijuana advocates argue that without some accommodations, more than 6,000 legal marijuana users in the state won't be able to work. For those who don't smoke, the issue is becoming a safety concern as the number of medical marijuana cards continues to rise. Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/workrules.htmNewshawk: CorvallisEric Source: Oregonian, The (Portland, OR)Author: Brent HunsbergerPublished: December 18, 2003Copyright: 2003 The OregonianContact: letters news.oregonian.comWebsite: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #26 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 14:46:10 PT
yippierevolutionary - comment 25
Now you got me in an area closer to my heart and much closer to my daily existence than drug policy reform. Rather than go off-topic here, here are a few links for anyone interested in the topic of liveability:Extensive plans for car-free cities, lots of photos from Europe, like Venice and Basel: http://www.carfree.com/Walkable communities: http://www.urbanity.50megs.com/index.htmDemonstration small urban house in Montreal: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/91feb/9102house.htmAnti-car, etc, activist Jane Holtz Kay - list of on-line articles: http://www.janeholtzkay.com/Articles/index.htmlInnovative transportation technologies: http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans/
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Comment #25 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 21, 2003 at 09:26:16 PT
corvallis 
It's the difference between the purist and the pragmatist and as activists I think we have to be pragmatic. The driving issue is our biggest obstacle to freedom which is why I say ban cars! We don't need these 19th century relics poluting our air and killing people in accidents whether theyre under the influence or not. I would like our towns and cities better designed so people could move around with pollution free segways.But that's not very pragmatic is it?
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Comment #24 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 05:35:10 PT
The debate
The debate going on here is important. I present the following only as opinion and personal observation.There seem to be two major camps among cannaphiles:1 - Cannabis is harmless (or extremely close to harmless). No one has ever died from it. Cannabis is an herb, not a drug. The studies condemning it are bogus.2 - Cannabis is a psychoactive drug with a relatively mild side-effect profile and relatively good benefit-to-risk ratio compared with most pharmaceuticals and intoxicants (there are better ways of expressing this, but you should get the idea). Many of the studies showing harm are politically motivated, flawed, or misrepresented in the popular media. It's prohibition is more harmful to society than the drug itself. The greatest benefit to society will result from freedom combined with honest drug education.You may have noticed that these are not totally opposite. #1 sounds sexier, doesn't it? I strongly suspect that reform won't get anywhere with the general public, much less the political powers-that-be, unless we embrace #2. The issue of workplace and road safety needs to be addressed by people concerned with safety, not by those persuing other agendas.
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Comment #23 posted by CorvallisEric on December 21, 2003 at 04:40:20 PT
I'm not getting into the personal squabble ...
... but I want add my agreement and thanks for delta9's comments:I don't believe cannabis is appropriate for *every* adult in *every* situation. It's a powerful intoxicant that demands respect. We've all met people who don't make wise choices with intoxicants, including pot....and...We should be careful to respect the rights of larger society in addition to insisting on respect for ouselves.Also, good points about statistics, Dan B (comment 4).
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Comment #22 posted by Dankhank on December 20, 2003 at 19:19:31 PT
Thanks
Thanks FOM, I shall save them better for the next time.PS, I thanked you already on one of the links, oh well ...:-)
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 18:56:40 PT
Dankhank Here Are The Links You Want
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12299.shtml#3
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Comment #20 posted by Dankhank on December 20, 2003 at 18:48:52 PT:
Machinery2
Delta9,Accusing me of infantile behavior in here is like throwing a red flag in a bulls face.Nothing I said is an opinion. My mistake was not in laying out all of the DATA that exists about driving under the influence of Cannabis. No, I didn't do any double-blind tests, I merely relied on Industry-related data collected in 1st world countries, not including USA since our politicians apparently believe," Our minds are made up, don't confuse us with facts."The studies come from Canada, NZ and Austrailia. I will find my copies of the links and offer them, not just my opinion.I usually rely on Observer to discuss the driving studies, but I'm kinda glad he/she didn't weigh in. It will cause my lazy ass to find them myself.---------you wrote
I don't believe cannabis is appropriate for *every* adult in *every* situation. It's a powerful intoxicant that demands respect. We've all met people who don't make wise choices with intoxicants, including pot. If you can't or won't see this, then I guess nothing I argue to the contrary is going to make any difference to you anyway. 
----------------I know plenty of people who don't make wise choices who never smoked a single bud, but I don't want them caged for stupidity ... wait a minute ... Republicans in charge now, start packing ...I would never tell anyone to smoke and drive, or operate heavy machinery, or do surgery, but most who do have been doing it for years and we don't know it because the stuff's illegal.Have you heard all of the songs about doing the reefer prior to doing just about anything else?It's a fact, jack. Reefer is everywhere in this society.We have learned to live, love, work, play, read, see movies, drive, love our children, anything we want to do while "under the influence."In this forum, you should have more than an opinion for what you propose, and prepare to defend it with more than cheap shots.Sorry if I seemed uptight, gosh, that dates me, but I am getting tired of opinions offered as facts these days, and a little short of temper.Merry Christmas to all who care enough to learn the truth. Confusion to the rest.
Hemp N Stuff
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 18:40:54 PT
Here Are Two Articles
These might help too.Thank you Dr. Russo for responding and I agree we need tests to determine impairment not what shows up in a drug test. I'm afraid of drivers who are very tired but that never seems to be an issue.Cannabis May Make You a Safer Driver: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6717.shtmlAlcohol Impairs Driving More than Marijuana: http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12299.shtml
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Comment #18 posted by charmed quark on December 20, 2003 at 18:22:47 PT
Drugs and machinery
I would not recommend being under the influence of ANY medication that might mess up my perceptions when driving. However, of the commonly used medications, cannabis would be near the bottom of drugs of concern. Alcohol is the worst,but antihistamines and such can be bad news.The studies I've seen where they measure performance in the lab actually show that drivers are a little SAFER under mild doses of cannabis. It's probably just the driver trying to compensate and be more alert that causes this, but obviously cannabis intoxication is not a huge concern.Let's look at what the warnings say in the patient literature for my Marinol (prescribed artificial THC): "Patient receiving treatment with Marinol should be warned not drive, [or] operate machinery ... until it is established that they are able to tolerate the drug and perform such tasks safely."So, apparently it's OK to drive on artificial THC after you've determine you can deal with it. It must be very different than natural THC.The stick-on warnings on my bottle of Marinol are actually much milder than the stickers on my antihistamine. The Marinol ones simply state "Caution:Use care when driving when taking this drug."
The antihistamine says "Warning:This drug may interfere with driving and other tasks."-Pete
 
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Comment #17 posted by Ethan Russo MD on December 20, 2003 at 18:02:45 PT
Called Out
Delta9: I try not to repeat myself. See:http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/14/thread14786.shtml
#11 for an answer to this. Keep in mind, there is a warning label for driving or operating machinery on Marinol until used to the medicine. The same will likely be true with clinical cannabis, but most people will safely be able to engage in work-time activities.Also, have a look at the Canadian Senate Report and their thorough examination of these issues.
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Comment #16 posted by jose melendez on December 20, 2003 at 15:57:56 PT
ahem
Re: "I would bet one thousand dollars that prozac has no warning label against driving. "Yippie, I'll settle for $20 and a beer. From: http://www.citizen.org/eletter/drugprofiles/fluoxetine.htm WARNING        WITHDRAWAL REACTIONS WITH SELECTIVE SEROTONIN REUPTAKE    INHIBITOR ANTIDEPRESSANTS (SSRIS)   A withdrawal reaction has been reported with all SSRI    antidepressants. The symptoms generally start within one to three days    after stopping the drug, and generally resolve within one to two weeks    after the drug has been discontinued. Withdrawal symptoms may occur even    when the dosage of the drug is gradually decreased. The main symptoms of    this reaction are: dizziness, vertigo, uncoordination, nausea and    vomiting, and flu-like symptoms that include fatigue, lethargy, muscle    pain and chills.   This reaction appears to be most common with    paroxetine, and to a lesser extent with sertraline and fluoxetine.     Withdrawal has also been reported with fluvoxamine. Because this is the    newest SSRI how often the withdrawal reaction occurs is   unknown.Before You Use This Drug Tell your doctor if you have or have had: 
 
allergies to drugs  
suicidal thoughts or actions  
kidney or liver problems  
diabetes  
epilepsy or seizures  
brain disease or damage Tell your doctor about any other drugs you take, including aspirin, herbs, vitamins, and other nonprescription products. When You Use This Drug 
 
Until you know how you react to these drugs, do not drive or perform other  activities requiring alertness. These drug may cause drowsiness.   
Do not drink alcohol or take other drugs that can cause drowsiness.  
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Stop taking these drugs and check with your doctor as soon as possible if  you develop skin rash or hives.  
If you develop dryness of the mouth, take sips of water. If dry mouth  persists for more than two weeks, check with your doctor.  
Check with your doctor before you take any other drugs, prescription or  nonprescription. These drugs frequently interact with other drugs.  
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Measure liquid with a calibrated teaspoon.  
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Store both forms at room temperature with cap on tightly.  
Do not store in the bathroom. Do not expose to heat, moisture, or strong  light. Interactions with Other Drugs The following drugs are listed in the Evaluations of Drug Interactions 1999 as causing highly clinically significant or clinically significant interactions when used together with this drug. We have also included potentially serious interactions listed in the drugs FDA-approved professional product labeling or package insert. New scientific techniques have allowed researchers to predict some drug interactions before they have been documented in people. There may be other drugs, especially those in the families of drugs listed below, that also will react with this drug to cause severe adverse effects. The number of new drugs approved for marketing increases the chance of drug interactions, and new drug interactions are being identified with old drugs. Be vigilant. Make sure to tell your doctor and pharmacist the drugs you are taking and tell your doctor if you are taking any of these interacting drugs:  At least two weeks should elapse between stopping a monoamine oxidase (MAO)  inhibitor and starting one of these drugs. You should wait at least five weeks  after stopping one of these drugs and starting one of these MAO inhibitors:  deprenyl, ELDEPRYL, furazolidone, FUROXONE, isocarboxazid, MARPLAN, MATULANE,  NARDIL, PARNATE, phenelzine, procarbazine, selegiline, tranylcypromine.  Other interacting drugs are: alprazolam, astemizole, DESYREL, DILANTIN,  HISMANAL, lithium, LITHOBID, LITHONATE, marijuana, phenytoin, trazodone, XANAX  and the herbal supplement ST. JOHN'S WORT.  Central nervous system (CNS) depressant drugs including: alcohol,  antidepressants, antihistamines, antipsychotics, some blood pressure  medications (reserpine, methyldopa, beta-blockers), motion sickness  medications, muscle relaxants, narcotics, sedatives, sleeping pills and  tranquilizers. These drugs can increase the blood levels of other  antidepressants, potentially increasing adverse effects from those  medications. Adverse Effects Call your doctor immediately if you experience: 
 
signs of overdose: agitation and restlessness, convulsions, seizures,  unusual excitement, severe nausea and vomiting, severe drowsiness, dry mouth,  irritability, large pupils, fast heartbeat  
signs of allergic reaction or serum sickness-like syndrome: skin rash or  hives associated with burning or tingling in fingers, hands, or arms, chills  or fever, swollen glands, joint or muscle pain, swelling of feet or lower  legs, or trouble breathing  
signs of hypoglycemia: anxiety, chills, cold sweats, confusion, cool, pale  skin, difficulty in concentration, drowsiness, excessive hunger, fast  heartbeat, headache, nervousness, shakiness, unsteady walk, unusual tiredness  or weakness  
suicidal thoughts or behavior  
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excessive hunger  
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swelling of feet or lower legs  
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mania Call your doctor if these symptoms continue: 
 
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change in taste  
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irregular or fast heartbeat  
stuffy nose  
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trembling or quivering  
feeling of warmth or heat  
flushing or redness of skin, especially on face and neck Periodic Tests Ask your doctor which of these tests should be done periodically while you are taking this drug: 
 
supervision of depression with suicidal tendencies  PREGNANCY WARNING    This drug caused harm to developing fetuses in animal    studies, or such studies were not done. Use during pregnancy only for    clear medical reasons. Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or thinking of    becoming pregnant before you take this drug.Last update: 5/2000see also: http://www.dhfs.state.wi.us/forms/DDES/dde4277pe%20prozac.pdfhttp://www.operanova.org/are_all_monopolies_as_profitable_as_paxil.htm
Congress: sponsor THIS
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Comment #15 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 20, 2003 at 15:24:45 PT
I need a doobie to get into mowing the grass
Should I get a DUI for operating my riding mower?
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Comment #14 posted by yippierevolutionary on December 20, 2003 at 15:22:06 PT
Cannabis and motor skills
Automobiles are very dangerous things and are a huge cause of premature death, both from accidents and emissions.NORML's stand is all about responsible cannabis use. They are against driving with cannabis because this is one of those issues that is extremely bad PR, remember what it did to Question 9 in Nevada?"Who says operating heavy machinery under the influence of Prozac, Zoloft, etc. is OK? Last time I checked, these came with warning labels about this." - We're an alcohol dominated culture and we are encultrated to see all drugs through an alcohol prism. NOT EVERY MOOD ELEVATING DRUGS AFFECT MOTOR-SKILLS!!!!! I would bet one thousand dollars that prozac has no warning label against driving. Are you saying all those soccer moms on prozac can't drive their min-vans? Zoloft does not make you uncoordinated, and neither does cannabis. 
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Comment #13 posted by Virgil on December 20, 2003 at 15:15:24 PT
A standard for dumb
Isn't a double blind test using marijuana a strange idea? It is like a double blind test for leeches. Certainly a person can be to high to drive and a fork lift needs a person in control. If I have to operate a chain saw on a cutting the log stage, I sure would appreciate a doobie to get into it. There are things like maturity and good judgement that always come into play, especially once a person has come to an understanding of what "Work safely" means and its importance.We have some 60 hours to hear from Canada. If prohibition is right and if prohibition is freedom, then Canada needs a new Charter or a new Supreme Court. I wish they would take ours.
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Comment #12 posted by delta9 on December 20, 2003 at 15:04:10 PT
FOM
>>I'm not sure why you seem upset.Not me.Happy Holidays to you as well.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on December 20, 2003 at 14:43:57 PT
delta9
I'm not sure why you seem upset. Not everyone will agree on this subject. I think Dr. Russo is too busy to get involved in this discussion. Have a Happy Holiday Season.
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Comment #10 posted by delta9 on December 20, 2003 at 14:36:36 PT
final thought
>>The current prohibitionist thinking about DRIVING while under the influence has NO basis in fact from any existing study ...Dr. Russo's opinion seems to carry a lot of weight around here -- let's ask him what he thinks about the "stoned while driving/heavy machinery" argument.
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Comment #9 posted by delta9 on December 20, 2003 at 13:59:45 PT
one more thing...
>>Prove to me and all WHY operating "Heavy" machinery under influence is bad when operating heavy machinery under influence of mind altering drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft ... etc. is apparently OK.Who says operating heavy machinery under the influence of Prozac, Zoloft, etc. is OK?  Last time I checked, these came with warning labels about this.
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Comment #8 posted by delta9 on December 20, 2003 at 13:43:10 PT
Dankhank
>>Is this YOUR opinion or do you have any data to show that YOUR opinion is correct?[emotionalist blather snipped]>>Got no proof, then your comment is no more than opinion.>>Opinions are like bungholes ... everybody's got one.First, which of my opinions do you disagree with:A. operating heavy machinery under the influence of cannabis is a BAD idea.B. We should be careful to respect the rights of larger society in addition to insisting on respect for ouselves. Hopefully, it's not B at least.Second, try acting like an adult. Lashing out convinces no one of anything, except the infantileness of lashing out.Since I can't legally conduct double-blind experiments on the effects of cannabis on motor skills, I am relying on direct experience and anecdotal evidence (come to think of it, many of us MMJ proponents rely at least partly on this as well). Cannabis definitely impairs my ability to drive, and I have MANY friends who admit to this as well. You're going to have to take my word for it, since I can't demonstrate it for you.This doesn't mean I support prohibition, it means I support responsible use, so take a deep breath and relax already.I don't believe cannabis is appropriate for *every* adult in *every* situation. It's a powerful intoxicant that demands respect. We've all met people who don't make wise choices with intoxicants, including pot. If you can't or won't see this, then I guess nothing I argue to the contrary is going to make any difference to you anyway.
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Comment #7 posted by Dankhank on December 20, 2003 at 13:02:05 PT:
Machinery
Delta9
--------------operating heavy machinery under the influence of cannabis is a BAD idea. We should be careful to respect the rights of larger society in addition to insisting on respect for ouselves.
--------------Is this YOUR opinion or do you have any data to show that YOUR opinion is correct?Since our government stifles ANY attempts to gain any truths about any matter relating to Cannabis, I wonder if you have special knowledge that we don't?The current prohibitionist thinking about DRIVING while under the influence has NO basis in fact from any existing study ...The thinking goes something like this:A. Driving while under influence of Alcohol is bad.
B. Ergo: driving while under influence of Cannabis is bad.NO data ... just supposition of the most infantile.Prove to me and all WHY operating "Heavy" machinery under influence is bad when operating heavy machinery under influence of mind altering drugs such as Prozac, Zoloft ... etc. is apparently OK.Got no proof, then your comment is no more than opinion.Opinions are like bungholes ... everybody's got one.
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Comment #6 posted by sukoi on December 20, 2003 at 12:29:45 PT
delta9
You are absolutely correct, but just because a person tests positive for THC does not mean that the person is under the influence. THC can remain detectible for weeks sometimes longer. If workplace drug tests could differentiate between being impaired at work and having used a substance in the recent past, I would have much less of a problem with this practice. The sad truth is that most of the people fired or or simply not hired based on "drug" testing are being fired/not hired not based on impairment at the time of the test, but on past usage. I have a big problem with that! Hell, they don't even give you time to study for the damn test!
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Comment #5 posted by delta9 on December 20, 2003 at 11:24:34 PT
With all due respect...
...operating heavy machinery under the influence of cannabis is a BAD idea.  We should be careful to respect the rights of larger society in addition to insisting on respect for ouselves.
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Comment #4 posted by Dan B on December 20, 2003 at 07:41:02 PT
"Drug-Free Workplace" Mandates
These "drug free workplace" mandates are a win-win situation for the prohibitionists. In one fell swoop, they get both the control over the workplace that they want (ultimately, "drug free workplaces" are part of a larger scheme whereby those with money get to dictate the lives of their employees) and get to manufacture "evidence" that "supports" their argument. How do they manufacture this evidence? Simple: these companies usually have a policy that every time there is an accident, everyone involved in the accident is tested for "drugs." If anyone involved tests positive (it does not have to be the person who caused the accident, just a person who was involved in it), it is written up as a "drug-related acident," and that person is fired (again, even if that person did not cause the accident). Thus, there is a manufactured statistic that seems to say that the accident was caused by "drugs," and that statistic is later combined with all of the other statistics on "drug-related accidents in the workplace," and that is how we get the inflated figures that prohibitionists use to say that "drugs" cause X million dollars in drug-related accidents. In fact, in almost all of these cases drugs cannot be proven to be the factor that caused the accidents. So, the way to make this statistic as worthless as it is under the surface is to bring up this method of stacking the deck every time such statistics are mentioned. Of course, when you bring up these reporting practices in defense of our side of the argument, the prohibitionists will say that they do not know about the reporting policies of individual companies. That is when it is important to remind them that statistics are meaningless if you don't know where they come from or how they are arived at. If every company has a different policy, than aggregate statistics are meaningless. And, if every company has the policy described above, then both the individual and aggregate statistics are meaningless.In the case of medical marijuana, more often than not the patient is so accustomed to his or her usual dosage of cannabis that it has a negligible effect (if any) on the quality and safety of that person's work--even more negligible than the effects of cannabis on the work habits of most recreational cannabis consumers. So, to fire someone for using cannabis for medical reasons, and for having that cannabis in one's system, as detected by tests that check for inordinately small quantities of cannabis antibodies, is a travesty and should be overturned. If I were John Thomas, I would go farther than asking to be reinstated. I would be suing the company for discrimination based on his medical condition.Dan B
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Comment #3 posted by charmed quark on December 20, 2003 at 06:12:22 PT
Drug free Workplace
I had wondered how the states medical marijuana programs would interact with the Federally mandated "drug free workplace" (which only applys to some drugs - alcohol is OK!). The easiest solution is for businesses to stop drug testing. The feds just require that some sort of program is put in plce; it doesn't say how you have to do it. As I undestand it, just having periodic meetings on the hazaards of drugs in the workplace and having a drug treatment referral program would do nicely.-Pete
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Comment #2 posted by ben on December 19, 2003 at 20:51:20 PT
What about all the body and mind numbing pills
I guess it okay as long as the drugs are made by man instead
of god. Remember father knows best.
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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on December 19, 2003 at 19:59:19 PT
Blackmail, as a habit.
"Complicating matters further, some employers risk losing millions in federal contracts if they don't abide by federal drug-free workplace laws." Where would the federal government be if it did not do so much blackmailing?said Klaus Martin, a physician who performs drug tests for employers (has a financial interest) "We're saying here we allow medical marijuana. Then we turn around and say, 'Hey, you have to provide a drug-free environment.' " Yes, a lot like other class A narcotics...Wouldn't a reputible doctor realize We already do this with a slew of drugs that are real drugs, not just a plant.This story leaves truth to be desired.420And again, I just want to say: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL: 
"DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php 
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