cannabisnews.com: U.S. Attorney, DEA Looking Into Ruling
U.S. Attorney, DEA Looking Into Ruling
Posted by CN Staff on December 11, 2003 at 21:03:33 PT
By Susan Bacon, Pilot & Today Staff
Source: Steamboat Pilot & Today
A Routt County judge's order that 2 ounces of marijuana and growing equipment should be returned to a man who uses it for medicinal purposes is being reviewed by the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.Jeff Dorschner, spokesperson for the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office, said Wednesday that the office plans to determine a course of action within 21 days, the timeframe by which the return of the marijuana and equipment has been ordered.
"We're reviewing the judge's order; we're consulting with the DEA and we'll, within the specified time, determine our next steps," Dorschner said.Dorschner's comments came after Routt County Judge James Garrecht ruled Monday that Hayden resident Don Nord, 57, should have the drugs and growing equipment that were seized during a house search in mid-October returned to him. Dan Reuter, a field agent and spokesperson for the Denver field office of the DEA, said that he does not know of any instance in which the DEA has returned an illegal controlled substance.The case has highlighted a conflict between federal and state law. Under federal law, marijuana is an illegal drug for everyone, but under Colorado law, people with certain medical conditions can grow and use the drug."This is an issue that's got to be resolved at some point," Reuter said.Colorado is one of nine states that allows medicinal marijuana use. Nord, who has battled cancer and diabetes and suffers from extreme pain, is registered with the state's Medical Marijuana Registry program.The marijuana and growing equipment were obtained during a search in mid-October by GRAMNET, the Grand, Routt and Moffat Narcotics Enforcement Team, which is a federal task force.Criminal drug possession charges were filed against Nord but were dismissed by Garrecht because the ticket was filed late. Nord's attorney, Kristopher Hammond, said he was happy with the judge's decision, but that he and his client might pursue action to get compensation for the three marijuana plants that were taken during the search and have been presumed dead.The state law requires that if drugs and growing equipment are taken during a search and no charges are pressed, the drugs and equipment must be taken care of until further order of the court."They're supposed to take care of the plants, under our constitution, and they pulled them up from the ground," Hammond said. "They destroyed my client's marijuana plants. I think he needs to be compensated for that violation."Hammond said he couldn't guess whether an appeal would be requested or if federal agencies would try to get a new ruling."We're breaking new ground here," he said. "I don't know what's going to happen."Deputy District Attorney Marc Guerette, who represented the people of Colorado and so GRAMNET, could not be reached for comment Wednesday. He said Monday that he did not know whether his office would pursue an appeal.Note: Routt county medicinal marijuana case being reviewed.Newshawk: The GCWSource: Steamboat Pilot & Today, The (CO)Author: Susan Bacon, Pilot & Today Staff Published: December 11, 2003Copyright: 2003 The Steamboat Pilot & TodayContact: editor steamboatpilot.comWebsite: http://www.steamboatpilot.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/Pot Sparks Showdown With Feds http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17950.shtmlJudge: Return Marijuana http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17940.shtmlMedicinal Marijuana Conflict http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17927.shtml
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Comment #27 posted by escapegoat on December 16, 2003 at 07:58:32 PT
Canadians for Safe Access vs. Anne McLellan's lies
Man, this was fun...you don't see it in this video, but I have a tape of the LIVE broadcast (this went out LIVE across Canada) and you should have seen her squirm. Like a deer in the headlights...
Anne McLellan Press conference
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on December 15, 2003 at 17:11:02 PT
Rush Seeks to Keep Med Records Private
Tuesday December 16, 2003 By Jill Barton, Associated Press Writer West Palm Beach, Fla. (AP) - Rush Limbaugh asked a court Wednesday to hear his claim that investigators violated his privacy by seizing his medical records and asked that the records not be released. The conservative radio host cannot be treated for his medical conditions because the state seized his charts and files last month and intimidated his doctors, the court petition said. Prosecutors have said they are investigating whether Limbaugh obtained and used prescription painkillers illegally. Typically, such records would not be released until a criminal investigation ends and charges are filed. Limbaugh's rights have been scrupulously protected during the investigation, Palm Beach State Attorney spokesman Mike Edmondson said Monday. Limbaugh's petition asks for a court hearing within three days. ``No citizen would want these highly personal details to be held by minions of the state to finger through at their leisure. Nor would any sane person wish his medical diagnosis and medical prescriptions to be widely published on television shows, tabloid newspapers, Web sites and the like,'' the petition says. Limbaugh's attorney, Roy Black, has accused the State Attorney's Office of having political motives for its investigation. Black did not return a phone call late Monday. Limbaugh surprised listeners to his radio show in October by announcing he was entering drug rehabilitation. His announcement came days after news reports about the criminal investigation surfaced. Copyright: 2003 Associated Press
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Comment #25 posted by jose melendez on December 14, 2003 at 11:23:33 PT
Green Collar Worker
Nice work!
shooting fish in barrel is not fighting crime
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Comment #24 posted by The GCW on December 14, 2003 at 09:31:46 PT
LTE - coming to MAP.
US CO: GRAMNET wrong
Pubdate: 14, Dec. 2003
Source: Steamboat Pilot & Today, The (CO) Contact: editor steamboatpilot.com
Author: Paul WellmanCited: Marijuana Policy Project (www.mpp.org)
Cited: Drug Enforcement Administration www.dea.gov
Related: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1884/a03.html
Related: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1914/a11.html?1168
Related: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1895/a05.html?1168
Related: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1884/a03.html?1168
Related:
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mmj.htm (Cannabis - Medicinal)
Refered: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1884/a03.html?1162
Viewed at: http://www.steamboatpilot.com/section/editorials/story/20824
Paul Wellman: GRAMNET wrong
Sunday, December 14, 2003 What is going on? I read the related articles in the Dec. 7 and Dec. 9 Steamboat Today about the drug raid and subsequent court actions involving Don Nord and GRAMNET. What a fiasco.I have wondered for years what this bunch was doing. This is an all-time low. I assume after reading the list of 280 registered marijuana users in Colorado and finding one of these heinous felons right here in Routt County, they felt compelled to act. I picture them putting on their Ninja Turtle gear and getting pumped up. "We've got to go get him," they cry. All the way to Hayden they are getting psyched for the job at hand. Crashing into Nord's place they must make a fearful sight. What a travesty. What injustice. What a waste of taxpayer's money. How much time will be spent in court on this hooey?I think the problem may have started when they got their handle -- GRAMNET. Why not a loftier goal? They should have adopted a more inspiring name. Something like KILONET. That way they could set their sights a bit higher. I am sure with a government-funded study they could come up with a name to match the acronym. This name would give these guys a better goal in life. Instead of hanging out in bars and busting the occasional stupid kid with a quarter ounce of pot, they could aspire to catch real drug dealers. When was the last big take down in any of the counties involved in this operation? I want to read a headline "two kilograms of cocaine (or heroin or meth or you name it) seized in raid." Who is this Deputy District Attorney Marc Guerette? When asked by the judge why he filed (obviously mistakenly) the charges against Nord in state court, he replied that he wasn't sure. Thank God they didn't have a real drug dealer in hand. Let's throw the federal government's stooges out of the state of Colorado and have our own law enforcement officers enforce our people's mandated laws. If medical marijuana was OK'd by the people of Colorado in 2000, how can something like this be happening?Sorry if I seem a bit over the edge here, but I have known Don "Doc" Nord for more than 20 years. Nord is accurately portrayed in the Steamboat Today paper articles. He is one of the good guys. It makes me furious to see this kind of thing happen to him. He doesn't need it. I see this kind of stupid action all the time, but rarely does it involve someone I know.Makes you wonder.Paul WellmanSteamboat Springs
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on December 13, 2003 at 09:35:02 PT
The GCW Comment 16
Thanks for asking. It's much better now.
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Comment #22 posted by jose melendez on December 13, 2003 at 07:13:27 PT
billings due
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/denver.htmlField Office Phone Numbers Denver Division
(303) 705-7300Billings, MT
(406) 657-6020Casper, WY
(307) 261-6200Cheyenne, WY
(307) 772-2391Colorado Springs, CO
(719) 866-6100Glenwood Springs, CO
(970) 945-0744Salt Lake City, UT
(801) 524-4156St. George, UT
(435) 673-6255
bust these crooks
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Comment #21 posted by jose melendez on December 13, 2003 at 07:09:17 PT
Ask drug warriors if they enforce treason laws.
from: http://www.montananorml.org/billings.htmlFor more information, try Dan Reuter, public information officer in the Denver office of the DEA at (303) 705-7300 or their Billings office at (406) 657-6020.
Proof Drug War is Crime
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Comment #20 posted by jose melendez on December 13, 2003 at 06:55:15 PT
With intellectual honesty and density of feeling.
Number of U.S. Attorneys applying Constitutional definitions of treason to drug warriors: 0DEA Budget, providing aid and comfort to those who wage war against U.S. citizens, in dollars: $1,897,300,000Value of juxtaposing the public comments of backpedaling hypocrites as they get caught by their own deceptions: PRICELESSfrom: http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Richard_M._Nixon/I made my mistakes, but in all my years of public life, I have never profited from public service. I've earned every cent. And in all of my years in public life I have never obstructed justice. And I think, too, that I can say that in my years of public life that I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their President is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got.
Richard M. Nixon, In a press conference, November 11, 1973also, from: http://highmarkfunds.stockpoint.com/highmarkfunds/newspaper.asp?Mode=news&Story=20031212/346w4821.xmlA Pentagon audit found Cheney's former company may have overcharged the Army by $1.09 per gallon for nearly 57 million gallons of gasoline delivered to citizens in Iraq, senior defense officials say."I appreciate the Pentagon looking after the taxpayers' money," the president said. "They felt like there was an overcharge issue."Bush said the Pentagon put the issue "right out there on the table for everybody to see and they're doing good work. We're going to make sure that as we spend money in Iraq, that it's spent well, it's spent wisely."Their investigation will lay the facts out for everybody to see," Bush said.
Increased murder, youth use, abuse rates-Are drug warriors exempt from U.S. law?
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on December 12, 2003 at 20:43:35 PT
MPP on Jesse Ventura's America on MSNBC
This is a friendly reminder. I posted this press release earlier but I don't want anyone to miss it so here it is again. I will post the transcripts after the show as soon as they are online. Here it is.****MPP's Rob Kampia on National TV Saturday, December 13, 2003 ======================================================================MPP Executive Director Rob Kampia will discuss the need to change U.S. marijuana laws this Saturday, Dec. 13, on "Jesse Ventura's America," on the MSNBC cable network. Also scheduled to appear are Tom Riley, spokesman for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, and Stanton Levenson, one of the attorneys representing actor/comedian Tommy Chong, who is now serving a federal prison term for distributing marijuana paraphernalia.The program, hosted by the outspoken former governor of Minnesota, airs nationally at 7 p.m. Eastern time, 4 p.m. Pacific.Increasingly, national news media are turning to MPP for comments and expertise on marijuana policy issues. In just the past three months, MPP staff members have appeared on PBS' "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer" and CNN Headline News -- and have been quoted in several Associated Press wire stories that received wide national circulation. We've also been quoted or cited in articles in the Los Angeles Times, Houston Chronicle, Seattle Times, San Francisco Chronicle, and many other newspapers, along with "The Note," the ABC News on-line political column that is considered a must-read for political insiders -- all since early September.I want to thank our more than 14,000 members for making it possible for MPP to continue to educate the public and the news media about the folly of our government's war on marijuana users. We literally cannot do this without you. Sincerely, Bruce Mirken, Director of Communications Jesse Ventura's America: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3132876/http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread17960.shtml#15
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on December 12, 2003 at 18:44:51 PT
ekim a Kucinich Article from The Chicago Sun-Times
Ohio's Comeback Kid Aims High December 12, 2003It was October 1967 when a college sophomore with an eye toward the presidency leaped into the game: Dennis Kucinich paid $42.50 and declared himself a candidate for the Cleveland City Council.He lost that race. Two years later, he was back -- and he won.At 23, the 5-foot-7 man with a boyish face and shaggy hair donned a trim black suit and ascended City Hall's marble steps with a cause: champion of the underdogs.Kucinich started as a fiery liberal, supported a Republican mayor for two years and emerged a self-described ''urban populist'' who could mobilize Cleveland's ethnic, blue-collar vote.Complete Article: http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-kucinich12.html
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Comment #17 posted by ekim on December 12, 2003 at 17:20:21 PT
when is the Willie Nelson Fundrasier for Dennis
BartCop, one of the funnier and most outspoken anti-Bush web sites,
has an online presidential poll. Currently, Dennis is running third
(23%) behind Dean (33%) and Clark (26%); how about giving him a
boost? Go to http://www.bartcop.com/ and scroll down about 1/4 of the
way; the poll is in an orange color.
http://www.bartcop.com/
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Comment #16 posted by The GCW on December 12, 2003 at 14:37:59 PT
We are all echoing each other. & about Kucinich...
Kucinich is real. I am leaving hope for something unique to occurr, that will make a difference.I would never wish for anyone to use violence for any reason, but there are a lot of trigger happy enforcement officers out there ready for an accident to happen, to kill some little boy, for a cannabis infraction.Kucinich is hip to what the .... is going on like noone else running for President in My lifetime.I have been doing a bit for the Kucinich cause / for Our countries cause. I don't say that lightly -I generally don't do anything for personal candidates. I welcome all of Us to unite in a new way. Let's see what We can do.We must make this happen. That requires more that what You have ever done in the past. Even if that means simply talking to people and mentioning:Kucinich will decriminalize cannabis and tax it like booze, and it is in writting.Some one near that does not even use cannabis said:"THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S WAITING FOR!"SWATSTIKA IS PRIMED TO KILL -KUCINICH WILL Be the only one to SCREAM!Something is coming.*42oo00OO ahaaah*Cannabis is not a drug!And one primary reason it has been called a drug is because We let the ignoids do it.Our echo should be movement wide! It is time to take every opertunity to correct this ill use of Our english language.We should unite in deciding right now, that this is no longer acceptable to refer to cannabis in a durogitory way.Let's take it a step further.Marijuana was never Our word! It was implemented from the beginning for its value in conjuring up distaste, bias, etc.One acheivement in pointing out that cannabis is not drug, is that a point will come when We know anyone who still uses the word drug instead of cannabis or plant, will be akin to being a bigot, prohibitionists, ignorant, etc.Then when someone refers to reefer as drug, You can equate them to being intelectually inferior.Are We unanimous?CANNABIS IS NOT A DRUG, FOLKS.Now pick up Your things and go home.*And FoM, hows that neck?I hate that.*I had a real boost yesterday.I got it but it is in part because of everyone here that I got it.A man who lends Me His press, patted Me on the shoulder and said, "Thank You for being intense."I hope that You will all enjoy that complement with Me.It's kinda goofy but there it is.The Green Collar Worker.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on December 12, 2003 at 14:28:16 PT
MPP on Jesse Ventura's America on MSNBC
MPP's Rob Kampia on National TV Saturday, December 13, 2003 ======================================================================FROM: Bruce Mirken, MPP director of CommunicationsDATE: Thursday, December 11, 2003SUBJECT: MPP's Rob Kampia on national TV – Saturday, December 13======================================================================MPP Executive Director Rob Kampia will discuss the need to change U.S. marijuana laws this Saturday, Dec. 13, on "Jesse Ventura's America," on the MSNBC cable network. Also scheduled to appear are Tom Riley, spokesman for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, and Stanton Levenson, one of the attorneys representing actor/comedian Tommy Chong, who is now serving a federal prison term for distributing marijuana paraphernalia.The program, hosted by the outspoken former governor of Minnesota, airs nationally at 7 p.m. Eastern time, 4 p.m. Pacific.Increasingly, national news media are turning to MPP for comments and expertise on marijuana policy issues. In just the past three months, MPP staff members have appeared on PBS' "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer" and CNN Headline News -- and have been quoted in several Associated Press wire stories that received wide national circulation. We've also been quoted or cited in articles in the Los Angeles Times, Houston Chronicle, Seattle Times, San Francisco Chronicle, and many other newspapers, along with "The Note," the ABC News on-line political column that is considered a must-read for political insiders -- all since early September.I want to thank our more than 14,000 members for making it possible for MPP to continue to educate the public and the news media about the folly of our government's war on marijuana users. We literally cannot do this without you. Sincerely, Bruce Mirken, Director of Communications
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Comment #14 posted by paulpeterson on December 12, 2003 at 14:05:54 PT
This shows the spread of "case law precedent"
Colorado had no relevant case law on point, that is why the Oregon precedent had so much leverage here. Now that the "precedent" ie: since charges were lodged in state court, state law controls", will continue to move east, following the MM "trend".The 9th Circuit is the moving engine of change here. The recent MM doctor protections case was refused appeal to the US Supreme Court. The RFRA cases involving the Rastafarians is also moving east, with the 10th Circuit ruling in Denver. In each state or region, there will be last "holdouts" onto the rigid hate of prohibition. As this issue advances eastward to Washington, D.C., there will be people that believe it is their religious duty to hold back the advance.We will be subjected to a whole multiplicity of what I call "DAWN LAWS", being actually very bad collections of archane "fictions" and half-truths and half-baked schemes for ratcheting down the rhetoric one step at a time. All of the half-steps will have illogical contradictions which really make for further unfairness, etc. The one thing that all "DAWN LAWS" will share is that the only way any changes can gain the consensus to pass in the first place is to "water down" the purpose and effect so that there are merely (and purely) "symbolic" victories.The real victory in the passage of "DAWN LAWS" is to begin the dialogue in the first place. The fact that some action comes from the dialogue will start the slow wheels of motion going, which will be followed by further challenges to the status quo down the road. Well, we're here, folks.For instance, who would have thought that we would really get to the point of having federal judges give probation or one day sentences for felonies? Or for judges to chide Sheriffs and DEA boys to give back pot? Or for 4000 prosecutions to fall in a single day? Or for politicians to start apologizing for NOT HAVING SMOKED POT WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER? Or for retiring politicians to joke about toking up a spliff once he retires?On another subject, I get mad when I hear about people wanting to "boycott" drug companies researching cannabinoid chemicals-Actually, those basic research projects are a tremendous boon to our biggest claims: that cannabis not only is not BAD, but it has good things to offer. That also tends to help the religious rights issue as well ie: Christ used the same chemicals in his mission, eh?Welcome to the Dawn of civilization, the Dawn after the great night of prohibition. You go Colorado, keep up the good work! PAUL PETERSON
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on December 12, 2003 at 12:50:36 PT
observer
I agree with you and it is one of the things that upsets me the most with some news articles. I know the danger of hard drugs legal or illegal but cannabis isn't a drug but a plant that was not created by man and has stood the test of time as being a benign substance. If there are bad effects from cannabis they aren't anything like the laws that hurt people that use this herb.
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Comment #12 posted by observer on December 12, 2003 at 12:43:47 PT
''the reader associates''
"Newspaper reporters continue to perpetuate...
...the unfairly negative reputation of cannabis by referring to it as a "drug" so that the reader associates cannabis PLANTS with actual illicit drugs (like heroin and cocaine)."So true. From "Drug War Propaganda,":Conflating (that is to say, intentionally confusing) any and all substances from crack to heroin to marijuana into "drugs," and conflating all those who take any drugs, from a shivering crack addict on the street to a Wall Street banker enjoying a marijuana cigarette after work, into "drug users," then allows propagandists to rhetorically attribute the very worst attributes of any drug, to every drug. Thus, "heroin" and "marijuana" are both "bad" because they are illegal; they are all "drugs." A user of marijuana is little different than a heroin addict, drug warriors tell us, because they are all "users" and "dopers," are they not? There is no difference between "hard drugs" and "soft drugs," police say.[21] A methamphetamine laboratory and a marijuana plant in the closet are both "drug manufacturing operations." The propaganda of prohibition often drops such petty distinctions in vilifying the hated group.Drug War Propaganda, 2003
http://mapinc.org/propaganda/toc.htm
latest, breaking pot news http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pot
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Comment #11 posted by Sam Adams on December 12, 2003 at 12:00:03 PT
Max
You're so right - the word "marijuana" itself conjures up an image of some Mexican dealer in a trenchcoat lurking on a corner. Hearst & company knew that "hemp" and "cannabis" are too tame sounding.The power of the media is incredible. Look at the current flu panic - how many kids died from it, total, in the US so far - 10? 45,000 people per year die in car crashes.
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Comment #10 posted by SystemGoneDown on December 12, 2003 at 11:54:25 PT:
Kucinich
All ridiculous drug policy ends with Kucinich as prez. One problem.... He aint gonna win. Our govn't is so powerful that I don't even view it as a democracy. He won't win because he won't play ball. I find it ironic that the leading democratic candidate for president in 2004(Dean) is the only candidate that rejected a medical marijuana bill. That is very non-liberal and non-democratic. I believe most people think marijuana should be legal, much less decriminalized. Politics is no longer about serving your country. It was until Kennedy was assasinated and everyone got scared to stand up for themselves. This country is no longer represented by the people and is ruled by opportunist like Dean who have the money to pay for his campaign and ultimate election victory for democratic presidency to go against a different and even more brutal man, Bush.
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Comment #9 posted by Max Flowers on December 12, 2003 at 09:47:10 PT
Newspaper reporters continue to perpetuate...
...the unfairly negative reputation of cannabis by referring to it as a "drug" so that the reader associates cannabis PLANTS with actual illicit drugs (like heroin and cocaine). The reporter in question here used the word "drugs" or "drug" to describe the man's plants no less than four times.This really annoys me to no end because as so-called journalists, they do--or should--understand the power of words and their imagery. They know damn well (or should) that when they use the word DRUG to talk about some cannabis plants, they are swaying the ignorant and impressionable to the side of the drug warriors, making these harmless plants sound evil.Everyone knows the extremely negative stigma the word DRUG carries in this country when you are talking about anything other than what you can get at the pharmacy. Newspaper writers who do this SUCK (how's that for a stigmatized word?)!MF
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Comment #8 posted by Dan B on December 12, 2003 at 04:50:37 PT
What the Police Really Think of You
Check out this story:http://kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ed9cc47f-da34-405c-a679-9591ada281dcPay particular attention to the photograph. That is not a doctored photograph, and that decal was put there by the police themselves.The war on drugs is the main reason why police have gone from "To Protect and Serve" to the kind of murderous rage toward citizens that is commonplace today. How do we reform the police? Step One: Scrap the war on drugs, including any and all police involvement in arresting, harassing, investigating, entrapping, confiscating, etc. Step two: Dismantle the DEA, ONDCP, and all other federal drug war infrastructure and replace those entities with institutions designed to educate people about the real relative dangers of various drugs, and policies designed to give doctors the necessary authority to treat serious addiction using voluntary medical procedures, including maintenance therapy and clean needle exchanges.As for this article, we would not have this problem between state and federal officials if we as a country simply followed through with steps one and two above.Dan B
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Comment #7 posted by jose melendez on December 12, 2003 at 03:33:18 PT
citizens: arrest prohibitionists!
Dear Yahoo!:How do I make a citizen's arrest?David
Elko, Nevada Dear David: We can tell you with full confidence that it is a very, very bad idea to try to drag someone down to the police station on your own. As the good Trooper Ness of the Illinois State Police says:
When you sign or make a complaint against someone for an infraction of the law, you are in affect "arresting" them...I cannot recommend that you try and "arrest" someone by restraining them physically, as you may be subject to liability if you do that. Work within the system by filing your charge with a police department or States Attorney with jurisdiction.
Needless to say, attempting to manhandle someone renders you vulnerable to all kinds of nasty lawsuits, in addition to physical harm. The police department in Arroye Grande, California, offers this helpful four-step guide to Making a Citizen's Arrest: 1. Notify police upon observing a crime. 2. Provide police with information to assist in identifying the violator. 3. Sign the complaint form. (After this, most cases are concluded without your further involvement.) 4. Appear in court when requested by the District Attorney's Office. The lesson? The telephone is mightier than the sword. http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010220.htmlSee also:http://www.kevinboone.com/citizens_arrest.htmlhttp://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest
serve them
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Comment #6 posted by jose melendez on December 12, 2003 at 03:26:29 PT
treason defined
Re: "What is sorely needed is a conference of DEA administration and medical cannabis advocates to find a common ground and end the War on This Plant!"OK, let's serve them with citizen's arrest warrants and apply Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution to the drug warriors. THAT would be one heck of a conference!from: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleiii.htmlTreason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Treason: Prohibitionists aid and comfort enemy
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Comment #5 posted by Nuevo Mexican on December 11, 2003 at 23:24:21 PT
Watch this video clip and tell me who would win
the election if it were held Dec. 9th! Howard Dean certainly didn't get any of the responses Dennis Kucinich did, and he's the front runner. The media want to call the election for bush in advance, if you couldn't tell by Ted Koppels agenda, and predictable punishing response to Dennis, Al and Carol. He didn't want them in the debate to begin with and stated so in the New York Times. But he had to, and now he gets his way, as well as Rush Limbaugh types this man reminds of, rude, immature, and blantantly biased.This election is the one uniting issue for all who want to see John Ashcroft sent packing with all of his cronies from cheney on down. If this debate didn't expose the Media(and puppetmasters) vs the people, nothing will. Actually Teds swift retribution proves Dennis point beyond measure and should be brought up every time the voting process is corrupted by the pundits for the corps.Clip of the century! This should continue to get wide play as it did after the debate, thankfully, listen as the crowds goes wild for Dennis, and for good reason! He makes sense, stands for something, and plans on being President.
That, I can get behind!short clip from debate exposes Ted and the media, click on See Dennis' remarks:http://www.kucinich.us/abcnews.phpACTION ALERT:
ABC Narrows the Field:
Did Kucinich's criticism of Koppel influence decision?http://www.fair.org/activism/abc-candidates.htmlother options at www.kucinich.us, Hear Dennis' remarks- mp3
See Dennis' remarks 56K | Broadband (RealMedia)
Read the December 9 Debate Transcript
Press Release, 12/9/03: Kucinich Focuses Debate on Substance
Press Release, 12/10/03: ABC News Pulls Reporter Off Kucinich CampaignKucinich sees Iraq as key election issue http://nsnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73156023140594&Avis=NS&Dato=20031210&Kategori=NEWS08&Lopenr=212100346&Ref=ARFor your convenience:Transcript: Democratic Presidential Debate in Durham, N.H. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A50859-2003Dec9?language=printer
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Comment #4 posted by The GCW on December 11, 2003 at 21:59:38 PT
The war on donkeys / a donkey-bomb
The war on donkeys http://www.boulderweekly.com/incaseyoumissedit.htmlAs if it wasn’t bad enough just having to haul heavy loads through the potholed streets of Baghdad in sizzling temperatures while being whipped repeatedly. Now Iraqi donkeys are fearing the full-blown wrath of the U.S. military.Suspicion of the beasts of burden has mounted in Iraq after donkey carts were used to carry and launch rockets at several Baghdad buildings and a donkey was discovered wired with explosives–yes, a donkey-bomb. Now donkeys have become public enemy No. 1 in Baghdad–maybe because they aren’t as quick and elusive as Saddam. U.S. soldiers regularly stop and search donkey carts, and some civilians say their donkeys have been taken away by the troops. (Do they have their own corral at Guantanamo?) Donkey-cart owners, already occupying a low rung in Iraqi society, are now being called terrorists and being turned away at stores and gas stations–forcing their donkeys to trek even further through the city.Did anyone notice the coincidence that the animals suffering all this abuse are donkeys? If elephants were the ones dragging the carts around Baghdad, we’re pretty sure there wouldn’t be such a problem.
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Comment #3 posted by The GCW on December 11, 2003 at 21:57:40 PT
of interest...
MoveOn is moving on up http://www.boulderweekly.com/incaseyoumissedit.html Ready for revolution? Well, don’t take to the streets, log on to the Internet. MoveOn, the innovative online activist group, is moving beyond angry e-mails and blogs and becoming a force to be reckoned with on and off the web. Just last weekend, MoveOn sponsored a nationwide opening-night screening of Hollywood filmmaker Robert Greenwald’s new documentary Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War. Instead of a single glitzy, flash-in-the-pan screening, MoveOn organized nearly 3,000 house parties all over the country where like-minded folks gathered to watch the film and party for a good cause. That’s like having a film screening with an audience of tens of thousands.This is just one example of MoveOn’s out-of-the-box organizing. MoveOn has created a Fox Watch project to monitor the Rupert Murdoch empire’s shady dealings with the GOP. And it’s launched an ad contest to find the most creative ways to publicize Bush’s corrupt policies–a contest to be judged by the likes of Jack Black, Michael Moore and Gus Van Sant. It’s no wonder billionaires George Soros and Peter Lewis have contributed $5 million to MoveOn’s Voter Fund ad campaigns. This is activism that’s actually going somewhere, and its main goal is getting Bush out of office. Does it stand a chance? MoveOn’s two million members say it does, and are ready to mobilize their friends and family to create a revolutionary force that’s potentially 10 million strong or more. So screw the homemade signs and candlelight vigils. Log on to www.MoveOn.org, and start kicking some Bush ass the cyber way.Respond: letters boulderweekly.com
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Comment #2 posted by The GCW on December 11, 2003 at 21:54:37 PT
This ones at the Vail Daily,
December 9, 2003 http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage(I'm unable to get this one on MAP, so if anyone wants to write... here it is: newsroom vaildaily.com ) Judge tells cops to give citizen back marijuanaSusan Bacon Special to the Daily
The decision, which had to account for conflicting state and federal drug laws, may set an important precedent, Routt County Judge James Garrecht said."Obviously, this case has the potential of going a whole lot further than just this court," Garrecht said after giving his decision. "This may be a precedent-setting case a whole lot further down the road."Several ounces of usable marijuana, three marijuana plants and growing equipment were taken during a GRAMNET search of 57-year-old Don Nord's home in mid-October.GRAMNET, the Grand, Routt and Moffat Narcotics Enforcement Team, is a federal task force made up of local officers.Deputy District Attorney Marc Guerette, who represented GRAMNET, had no comment on the judge's decision and said he wasn't sure whether he would pursue an appeal, which would go to a district court if it were filed.During the hearing, Nord's attorney, Kristopher Hammond, argued that because the search warrant was served through a state court and charges were dismissed through the state court, the officers should follow state law and return the property.Under a Colorado law that voters approved in 2000, people suffering from debilitating medical conditions, such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, glaucoma, and chronic severe pain, are allowed to grow and smoke marijuana. Colorado is one of eight states that allows medicinal marijuana use.Nord, who has battled kidney cancer, diabetes, lung disease and other illnesses, is listed with the state's Medical Marijuana Registry. But according to federal laws, none of that matters because marijuana is an illegal drug for everyone.Hammond directed the judge's attention to part of the state law that says that property seized from someone registered to use medicinal marijuana should not be harmed or neglected and should be returned."All of a sudden, this marijuana they seized under a state order now becomes federal property," Hammond said. "My suspicion, judge, is they're just trying to do an end run around this case."After the search, Nord was issued a citation for the possession of 1 to 8 ounces of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia.Those charges were dismissed, Garrecht said, because the citation was filed late. Garrecht asked why those charges were filed in a county court, and Guerette replied that he was not sure, but that it didn't matter because the marijuana and growing equipment are now federal property.He also said that it was clear that GRAMNET officers operated under federal laws.Hammond cited an Oregon Court of Appeals decision in which marijuana was seized from a man who was allowed to use it for medicinal purposes. Federal officers argued it would violate federal law to return the drug, but a local court said the drug should be returned, a decision which was upheld by the appeals court.Guerette said the Oregon court's decisions were not binding for this county, but Garrecht said that because neither lawyer was aware of a similar case for Colorado, the Oregon case offered precedent, which he used in making his decision.Garrecht then ordered that the seized property be returned.Before the hearing ended, Hammond asked, "Your honor, my client just asked me if he can grow marijuana again."Garrecht replied that he did not give out legal advice.And for anyone who is just dropping by,& haven't heard: Democratic Presidential nominee, Dennis Kucinich, put in writing that as PRESIDENT He WILL:
"DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA" -"in favor of a drug policy that sets reasonable boundaries for marijuana use by establishing guidelines similar to those already in place for alcohol." (POSTED ON His website!)http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17917.shtml http://www.kucinich.us/issues/marijuana_decrim.php
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Comment #1 posted by Rev Jonathan Adler on December 11, 2003 at 21:46:52 PT:
Feds Backstepping!
Look at the backstepping going on with the Feds. They know they are not on solid ground any longer obstructing medical and religious use of cannabis. The states are asserting their independent freedoms guaranteed by our federal constitution and the Feds are running out of excuses for their tunnel-vision on the issue of medical cannabis.
What is sorely needed is a conference of DEA administration and medical cannabis advocates to find a common ground and end the War on This Plant! If it is a choice God gave us, how can a constitutional democratic government continue to ignore their own responsibility to enforce the document this country was founded on and the current judicial decisions ever more in our favor. Peace! We acan focus on real crime if we agree to re-legalize marijuana nationally. Peace.
East Hawaii Branch/ Religion of Jesus Church
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