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  Medicinal Marijuana Endorsed 

Posted by CN Staff on November 24, 2003 at 06:26:27 PT
By Elizabeth Benjamin 
Source: Times Union  

Efforts to legalize marijuana for medical use in New York continue to inch forward, with the latest endorsement coming from the state AIDS Advisory Council. Ironically, most of the council's members were appointed by Gov. George Pataki, who doesn't support allowing seriously ill people to smoke pot.After an hour of debate at a meeting in New York City earlier this month, the council voted 8-2 with one abstention to support a bill sponsored by Assemblyman Richard Gottfried, D-Manhattan, that would allow patients to use marijuana if prescribed by a doctor.
The unpaid, 17-member council advises the state AIDS Institute. The governor appoints nine members, the majority leaders of the Assembly and Senate each name three, and each minority leader picks one."In my mind this is a no-brainer," said Jeffrey Reynolds, a council member appointed by Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno, R-Brunswick, and vice president for public affairs at the Long Island Association for AIDS Care."People with late-stage HIV infection need this," Reynolds said. "And in many cases, they're (smoking) anyway, in nonregulated and unsafe ways."Opponents of the measure argued that science has yet to prove marijuana eases HIV and AIDS-related symptoms. Counters Reynolds: "AIDS treatment has always been about trying new things. Anything we can do to make people more comfortable, we should be doing."Gottfried's bill, which lacks a Senate sponsor, is also backed by the New York State Association of County Health Officials and The Hospice and Palliative Care Association of New York State. The Assembly Health Committee voted out the bill for the first time since it was introduced in 1997, but the full chamber has yet to vote.Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/albany.htmSource: Times Union (Albany, NY)Author: Elizabeth Benjamin, James M. Odato and Alan WechslerPublished: Monday, November 24, 2003 Copyright: 2003 Capital Newspapers Contact: tuletters timesunion.comWebsite: http://www.timesunion.com/Related Articles:NY Panel OKs Medical Marijuana Billhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread15911.shtmlState Passed the Law, but Never Used It http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread9419.shtml 

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Comment #25 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 16:25:49 PT

Thanks Nicholas
We are feeling creatures and we need food, water, and shelter to survive. That's basic but what are we allowed to want? That's where we are told what we are allowed to want and told what we aren't allowed to want. No real reason though. If something makes us happy and smile how can someone say that it is all bad? If smiling and being happy was a bad thing they wouldn't spend so much money with tv commercials to make us want that car or vacation or whatever which will make us smile and be happy until the first payment is due. 
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Comment #24 posted by jose melendez on November 24, 2003 at 16:23:03 PT

Pot is 'poison' and nicotine is medicine. Right.
I just heard a nicorette commercial: "One bite and nicorette gum releases the medicine you need . . ."If it's legal to do so, I'll wager that FTC, FDA and DEA are NOT going to complain about nicotine being advertised as medicine. Advertise cannabis as generic herbal thc and they WILL raid you.What was the name of that 'dream team' lawyer?
http://65.18.211.65/terror
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Comment #23 posted by Nicholas Thimmesch on November 24, 2003 at 16:12:35 PT:

John Walters...
....call yer office: time for yet another campaign against addiction for Ogilvy & Mather. Love 'as addictive as cocaine' Love could be as addictive as cocaine or speed, scientists have said.According to Dr John Marsden, head of the National Addiction Centre at the Maudsley Hospital in London, when you are attracted to someone your brain releases the drug dopamine, giving the same reaction that taking cocaine or speed would create."Attraction and lust really is like a drug. It leaves you just wanting more," he said.However like the drugs - the first flush of love is temporary."Scientific research reveals the first flush of love lasts only between three and seven years," he added.The findings, which will appear in a BBC documentary next month, also investigate the link between people's smells, facial features and genes."Being attracted to someone sparks the same incredible feelings no matter who you are. Love really does know no boundaries," he said.He explained that when we are attracted to someone part of the brain which processes emotions is fired up causing the heart to pound three times faster than normal and causes blood to be diverted to the cheeks and sexual organs, which causes the feeling of butterflies in the stomach."It might look like we are all after the perfect partner to wine and dine but underneath all that our animalDr Marsden's research also revealed that, "sex is booby-trapped" to make people bond with their partner."Your body has evolved over millions of years with one aim - to go forth and multiply, so while having kids may not be on the agenda just yet your body has a few tricks up its sleeve to drag you in that direction," he said.According to the research the more people have sex together, the more likely they are to bond."We all know you can have sex without falling in love but if you have enough sex with the same person there's a good chance you will hit the body's booby trap which is there to tip you head over heels into love," he said."So your body goes all out to make you bond with your partner and that makes love highly addictive and the withdrawal sucks."Body Hits: Love Story is on BBC3 on Thursday December 4.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_841263.html?menu=news.latestheadlines
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 14:30:44 PT

Thanks puff_tuff 
The article isn't off topic. I hope you will post links to articles like you just did from CC. I am holding back from doing articles that are more political then cannabis related because it could make way to much news for CNews to handle but many people post their political preferences and that's a great way of getting the word out.
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Comment #21 posted by Jose Melendez on November 24, 2003 at 14:15:26 PT

on topic
Free Marijuana:http://bathurst.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=269640&m=3&y=2003
Prohibit THIS!
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Comment #20 posted by puff_tuff on November 24, 2003 at 14:05:13 PT

Off Topic...Cannabis Culture article
24 Nov, 2003Should Canada's Marijuana Party join the NDP?Canada's federal Marijuana Party debates their future.by Bianca Sind 
Cannabis Culture http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3188.html
 

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Comment #19 posted by Jose Melendez on November 24, 2003 at 13:43:54 PT

'they'd feel better doing crack' - John Walters
Eat cake, indeed.
Let them Smoke Pot.
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Comment #18 posted by Virgil on November 24, 2003 at 13:11:34 PT

Ahh. You are saying that just to be Nazi/nasty
Opponents of the measure argued that science has yet to prove marijuana eases HIV and AIDS-related symptoms. There is nothing like reporting officialeze from officialdom to hold cost of reporting. They could ask an expert in medicine. They could ask someone at GW Pharma. They could ask someone at Bayer. They could actually read studies and report from the studies. But no. Just say marijuana is bad medicine. At least the article gives an opposition party a chance to talk sense. We are closing in on the first of the primaries and the WOD is still a subject that is off the table and buried by anything else. It is the forbidden subject. By keeping everyone focused on a fixed point like medical marijuana they can keep the subject of the failure of the War of Insanity from even being raised.There is no news making it to the US from Bolivia. The reforms of Brazil have not got commentary or coverage from anyone outside of NarcoNews that I have seen. The issue of the government in both legal and illegal drugs is a huge issue in a pot that is boiling. This article reports a little stem.We need to remove the lid on the WOD and show there is a lot of steam and a lot of hot water to boil our corrupt politicians. You know how when searching for files, it has the arrow for up one level. It is fine for us to be in the minutea here on cannabis, but we need to go up one level to the WOD and get the debate going and the issue off of ignore.The principle method of the Nazis in prolonging prohibition is silence, followed by more silence, followed by some demonization, followed by silence. I think of it as quiet, quiet, boo. Drugs do not say boo, the government does. They want silence and it is our duty not to let them have it. The government has launced a war on us. We need to tell everyone that the govenment does not represent us and we have to war on them to return to a government of the people and for the people. 
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 12:48:43 PT

The GCW
I would feel better if I knew the Kubbys were going to be ok. 
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Comment #16 posted by The GCW on November 24, 2003 at 12:42:04 PT

I'll feel a lot safer if,
The Kubby's get a positive ruling.When I think of thanksgiving, one of the things I think about is:1 Timothy 4:1-5.1 Timothy 4
1  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3  Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4  For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5  For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.http://www.biblegateway.org/bible?passage=1TIM%2B4&showfn=on&showxref=on&language=english&version=KJV&x=11&y=7(I use the NASB, but first I read this in the KJV)So here is the NASB virsion: 1 Timothy 4Apostasy (the subtitle)1  But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 
2  by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 
3  men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. 
4  For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; 
5  for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.http://www.biblegateway.org/bible?passage=1TIM+4&language=english&version=NASB

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Comment #15 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 12:22:55 PT

A Short Note
Hi Everyone,I want to mention that this is a week where we might not get much news. During holidays it seems to always slow down but I'll keep looking. I hope everyone is planning on having a nice holiday. Stay safe during this Thanksgiving Week. 
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Comment #14 posted by The GCW on November 24, 2003 at 11:38:44 PT

We are felony conficts. We are ordinary people.
Student Faces Drug Charge ANY AMOUNT OF POT IN A SCHOOL ZONE IS A FELONY A West High School senior is facing a felony drug charge after a very small amount of marijuana was found by police in her car on school grounds, according to documents filed in court this week. Police spokeswoman Anita Shell did not know exactly how much pot was discovered, but said that it was a small enough amount that if it wasn't found in a school zone, the charge would have been a misdemeanor. snipped... http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/4420537p-4412335c.html Plus:http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1820/a08.html?397(This, in the state where We are protected as adults to posess up to 4 ounces in the privacy of Our own home.)If this was My child, I would be furious at the cheap crap these prohibitionists are forcing upon youth.Heads should roll & than means every politician that supports cannabis prohibition.Will this person remain part of the general population?

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Comment #13 posted by The GCW on November 24, 2003 at 10:37:58 PT

Who are We anyway?
To the prison industry, We are: "the general population".
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Comment #12 posted by E_Johnson on November 24, 2003 at 10:36:12 PT

Ooops
I didn't mean to say a ten story window, I meant to say a tenth story window.BTW (off topic) here's what I was talking about with science and public schools:In the news today: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A growing percentage of scientists and engineers in the United States come from other countries, the National Science Board reported on Wednesday. It found that foreign-born workers with bachelor's degrees represented 17 percent of all science and engineering positions held by people with bachelor's degrees, 29 of master's degree positions and 38 percent of PhDs.The NSF said global competition for scientific and engineering expertise was becoming more intense while the number of U.S.-born graduates choosing science, engineering or technology careers was declining.**********************************************They're coming from the countries with the best public school systems and the best public universities.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 10:33:14 PT

A Comment
I wish they had food police everywhere. Produce from Mexico doesn't have the safety requirements in place that we have. Look at the 500 or more people who got sick at Chi Chi's restaurant in Pa. It was from green onions of all things. They should take the police who are always trying to find marijuana and make them food police. Bad food will kill us but cannabis has never killed anyone. I'm sorry it did kill a person who choked on the PLASTIC bag when he tried to swallow it for fear of being arrested.
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Comment #10 posted by E_Johnson on November 24, 2003 at 10:26:31 PT

Unsupported by science
In American medical journals there are no reports of any clinical trials proving scientifically that jumping out of a ten story window and falling to the pavement will kill a human being.But nonetheless many people today believe it will.How could that be? Shouldn't we let science decide?
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Comment #9 posted by kaptinemo on November 24, 2003 at 10:19:23 PT:

The subject may be 'baloney'
But the economics of it pefectly illustrate the DrugWar; read the last sentence: a five-to-ten fold increase on price.Now for a little fun.Seeing that someone is at far more risk of contracting serious food poisoning from poorly treated bologna - that they would ever be from cannabis - you'd think there'd be a hue and cry to 'beef' up the duties of health inspectors by arming them and sending them to Mexico. Since much of this illegal baloney is coming from down South you'd think there would be threats by the Administration to close the border. Dipomats at cocktail parties would quietly pass the word that we don't want this illegal baloney crossing our borders anymore, we have enough as is produced domestically. No-knock raids on homes of suspected purveyors of bad baloney, where innocent pets, children and adults would be shot by trigger happy health department inspectors, would become more common. RICO charges would be brought against baloney 'king-pins' but only capturing mom-and-pop baloney distributors. Forfeiture of factories and cars and bank accounts of bad baloney wholesalers. The corner roach-coach guy could be arrested and hauled away for having illegal baloney in his possession. The (p)Resident could go on nightly TV, gesticulating wildly with a baggie full of illegal baloney in front of the camera lenses and rail about illegal, dangerous imports threatening our national security, and of course, the sainted chil-drunn...(Public announcer's voice: "If a friendly stranger offers to share his baloney sandwich with you, what do you say?"
Obviously prepped, animated Little Kid: "Nuh-uh, buh-lomey is for losers!")I know, I know, it's ALL 'baloney', but so is this damn'fool DrugWar. It's laugh or scream...
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Comment #8 posted by RasAric on November 24, 2003 at 08:42:54 PT

Jose
The balogna story is friggen hilarious!
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Comment #7 posted by Sam Adams on November 24, 2003 at 08:31:11 PT

oh goodie!
Tokin' Teacher! Drunk-drivin' President! Yay!
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Comment #6 posted by Jose Melendez on November 24, 2003 at 08:30:23 PT

contraband is baloney
http://www.wftv.com/food/2659930/detail.html
Bust Prohibition.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 08:24:46 PT

RasAric
Here you go. I purposely don't post articles for fear of bringing more reproach on a person when there names are mentioned if I don't know if they are activists and really want their names mentioned or are famous. Because we archive all our articles it would be in google in no time. Most newspapers don't keep their articles. Here it is to read!Teacher Cited on Marijuana Charge: http://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/story/1123202003_new10_marijuana.asp
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Comment #4 posted by RasAric on November 24, 2003 at 08:13:45 PT

FoM
CNN just posted a caption called Tokin' Teacher. Something about a Social Studies teacher who truck, parked in the high school lot, was discovered to have marijuana in it....What I'd like to know is, "What the hell are the pigs doing in this guys truck?"FoM have you any info on this story? 
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 07:49:30 PT

OverwhelmSam 
There is no hidden agenda. I agree. 
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Comment #2 posted by OverwhelmSam on November 24, 2003 at 07:43:12 PT:

Hidden Agenda Lie Again, So Scary!
"The legalizers have a hidden agenda they want to bring out: They want someone to legitimize a smokable marijuana lifestyle." Again with the hidden agenda lie. I support marijuana for medicinal purposes.I am a marijuana user and am in no way have a "hidden agenda to legalize marijuana." I want everyone to know that I want marijuana legalized and regulated for adult use. Now, how exactly is that a "hidden" agenda? They perpetuate this "hidden agenda" propoganda as a scare tactic. Wooooo, we have a hidden agenda. So scary, everybody run. And they call US paranoid. Right. I've never seen such mass paranoia over an herb as we have here in America about marijuana. Laughable if it wasn't so sad.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on November 24, 2003 at 07:08:36 PT

News Article from The Salt Lake Tribune
Libertarian, Civil-Rights Activist Advocate Legalization of Marijuana at U. Forum 
By Carey Hamilton, The Salt Lake Tribune November 24, 2003  Civil-rights activist and perennial candidate Ken Larsen teamed up Thursday with Libertarian Richard Mack, who is running for governor, to rail against the government and push for the legalization of marijuana.   At a forum sponsored by the University of Utah Libertarian Party and held at the university, both men said that pot has medicinal value and should not be denied to people with painful illnesses, such as multiple sclerosis, AIDS and glaucoma.   "Marijuana is medicine. The war on medical marijuana is just as phony as the war on Iraq," Larsen said.   Dan Reuter, a special agent with the Drug Enforcement Agency in the Denver field office, which includes Utah, said there is no need to legalize pot for medical reasons because there are pharmaceutical drugs on the market that contain synthetic THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. One such drug, called Marinol, helps enhance appetite and curb nausea, he said.   "Because there are pharmaceutical forms of marijuana, the arguments for legalizing smokable marijuana are moot," Reuter said. "The legalizers have a hidden agenda they want to bring out: They want someone to legitimize a smokable marijuana lifestyle."   Smoking may be a more reliable form of delivery, however, for people suffering from nausea and vomiting who are unable to swallow and hold down a pill, Larsen said. And it provides relief more quickly, he added.   Reuter said pot can be addictive and damage the lungs despite widespread notions that it is harmless "kiddy dope."   Larsen and Mack both said they don't advocate smoking pot recreationally, but they believe people should have the right to make that decision without governmental intervention.   "I think the recreational use of marijuana, drinking and smoking are stupid," said Mack, a former Arizona lawman and failed candidate for Utah County sheriff who described himself as a devout Mormon. "But the stupidest thing in the world is we support a government that is in charge of keeping us from being stupid."   Mack worked on the Nevada campaign last year that sought to legalize marijuana possession (up to three ounces per adult) and to allow seriously ill patients to obtain marijuana at a lower cost than nonmedical users. Called Question 9, the measure was defeated 61 percent to 39 percent.   Eight states have laws protecting patients who possess and grow marijuana with their doctor's approval: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington. 
  
    
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Nov/11242003/utah/114042.asp

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