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  House GOP Targets Medical Marijuana States 

Posted by CN Staff on May 21, 2003 at 15:54:24 PT
By Larry Margasak, Associated Press Writer  
Source: Associated Press 

Washington -- House Republicans are pressing for legislation that would strip federal anti-drug money from local police in states that have passed medical marijuana laws. The overall legislation, which would keep the White House drug policy office in business for another five years, would also allow the office to run ads opposing medical marijuana initiatives.
The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy said both provisions were initiated in Congress, but they clearly reflect the Bush administration's strong desire to strictly enforce marijuana laws. Federal law does not permit legalization for medical use, although eight states allow it. Tom Riley, spokesman for White House drug policy director John Walters, said: ``One of the duties of the drug czar is to oppose efforts to legalize drugs. There's a concern in Congress that marijuana is more harmful than most people perceive. They want to make sure this agency keeps a focus on that.'' Walters has traveled the country to speak out against easing marijuana laws, but Riley said there were no issue-oriented ads planned. However, he added, ``We want as much flexibility as possible.'' The House Government Reform Committee was expected to approve the legislation Thursday, with an amendment prohibiting ads expressly advocating support or defeat of a candidate or ballot question. Groups opposed to strict criminal enforcement of marijuana laws said more than $11 million could be eliminated from state and local police budgets in ``high-intensity'' drug trafficking areas. The money would go to federal law enforcement officers on the grounds that local police would not be able to enforce marijuana laws. The House bill is sponsored by Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind., chairman of the House Government Reform criminal justice subcommittee. His staff director, Chris Donesa, said the switch is needed because the federal government would take on an added burden, but emphasized the money would be used in the same high-intensity areas. Donesa added that local and federal officers work together in those areas anyway, so there would be little practical effect. Steve Fox of the Marijuana Policy Project said his group was especially concerned about the possibility of huge advertising expenditures by the White House in an attempt to influence elections. ``This leaves them free to run ads saying medicinal marijuana is a lie and a ploy to legalize marijuana for all purposes,'' he said. Bill Piper of the Drug Policy Alliance called the potential issue advertising ``a shell game. It would take money from taxpayers and most taxpayers will see through it.'' Piper said the reallocation of money to federal officers would move the focus from heroin and cocaine trafficking to enforcement against medical marijuana patients. The states with medical marijuana laws are Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Nevada and Maine. Voters last November defeated a Nevada measure to legalize possession of up to three ounces of marijuana; an Arizona initiative that would have made pot possession equivalent to a traffic violation; and a South Dakota initiative that would have legalized hemp farms. Source: Associated PressAuthor: Larry Margasak, Associated Press Writer Published: Wednesday May 21, 2003Copyright: 2003 Associated Press Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml

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Comment #24 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 16:01:57 PT

More Information on HR 2086
Well. That's not exactly what happened. HR 2086 won't be defeated, since it's the ONDCP Reauthorization. If it were really defeated, then the ONDCP wouldn't be authorized by Congress to spend ANY money.The good news is that Tom Davis (R-VA) took HR 2086 off the table for the time being. They're going to take a couple of weeks to look things over and rewrite the bad portions. We'll probably see something in a couple of weeks that looks similar. My guess is that the next version will prevent the advertising from being used in elections but not ballot initiatives, essentially to isolate the exact purpose for having this clause in the first place.The good thing is that Tom Davis (Chair of the Government Reform Committee) is one of the more intelligent Republicans in the House leadership, and the longer attention gets drawn to the issue, the more likely it is that Davis will actually get it. In summary, there's good news and bad news: the good news is that the calls, faxes and e-mails made a difference, and we got the especially offensive parts off the table; the bad news is that they'll be back, and we're all going to have to call, fax and e-mail once again in two weeks.Sorry to rain on the parade.Benjamin S. Gaines, Legislative Director -- Students for Sensible Drug Policy -- http://www.ssdp.org/

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Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 15:56:24 PT

Mistake on HR 2086
It wasn't defeated but postponed. Here's the information.Whoa everyone! Hold your horses. Apparently someone was a little confused by what happened with HR 2086 today. The bill was NOT defeated. It was simply postponed while some of the controversial language is changed. We should all be proud of ourselves for drawing attention to some of the more outrageous language which will likely be changed. However, this bill will be back and the bill will eventually pass, albeit in a hopefully more acceptable form.Here is a blurb from Roll Call on exactly what happened to HR 2086:ANTI-DRUG AD CONTROVERSY LEADS TO POSTPONEMENT OF MARKUP The House Government Reform Committee, seeking to stem a controversy over use of government funds for anti-drug advertising, postponed a markup today of legislation to reauthorize the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Panel Democrats objected to a provision in the bill (HR 2086) authorizing a $1 billion anti-drug media campaign. They feared the bill could lead to the use of federal drug-fighting funds for advertising that targets ballot initiatives seeking to legalize marijuana or candidates advocating reduced sentences for drug crimes, or other partisan purposes. "I hope that everyone would agree that we don't want the head of the drug office to be involved in politics," said ranking Democrat Henry A. Waxman of California. Bill sponsor Mark Souder, R-Ind., said that was not his intent. "We do not believe it should be used for partisan political purposes," he said. Souder promised to work on revising the language to address concerns of Democrats. Regards,Kris Krane, Associate Director -- http://www.norml.orghttp://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread16349.shtml#15
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Comment #22 posted by Rev Jonathan Adler on May 22, 2003 at 14:56:16 PT:

Marijuana means freedom....
What really scares the Feds about marijuana is that it means freedom. The freedom to choose what medicine you use and what sacrament you accept for religion. The freedom to work for your family and yourself without depending on hand-outs or charity. I always wonder how the masses can still be fooled into thinking marijuana has anything bad about it; besides the laws that prevent us using it freely.
I suggest the Feds develop a program of approved research supply of cannabis to do high quality clinical studies with high quality medicine. and healing herb. A JOINT venture with a legal religious cultivation facility is needed now. I propose we mirror GW Pharmaceutical's activities in England here and now. Peace to all and a safer world too.
Aloha. Rev. Jonathan Adler / Cooperator/ Educator/ Lobbyist
Hawaii Medical Marijuana Institute
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Comment #21 posted by Virgil on May 22, 2003 at 13:13:00 PT

FoM
I think this is what I will do for now. The hempcity forum has spellcheck and an edit feature that is active for 24 hours, not that I worry about spelling. Let me comprise a list for yesterday and see what the hempcity and Nol think of having a newsource on the boards. I will test the editing of hyperlinks to the friendly version over the actual address.Then if people wanted a place to find links to copy and paste, they would be accessible on the Internet. I am tired thinking of all the work. Rejection seems welcome. We will see.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 12:43:34 PT

Virgil and Sam
I think it only starts around 1000. Something might have happened during the transfer to Mapinc. from cann.com I only purchased my first computer that was on line in the fall of 96. It took me almost a year to find somewhere I was comfortable which was where I posted for along time years ago now it seems. Ron Bennett made CannabisNews.com and then he gave it to me! He just gave it to me! I think the world of Ron for helping me like he did. Ron and Matt have added features and it is a pleasure to work within this system. I couldn't do this without them. Mapinc. supports CNews so I don't have to pay for anything and Ron hasn't ever charged me for my --http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/ -- web site. If I had to worry about the money to operate this site it would only be a dream.
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Comment #19 posted by Virgil on May 22, 2003 at 12:29:26 PT

FoM
It is easy to find the articles for say like yesterday because it will be in the top 30 and if someone were to do it they could work on it as the articles went up. Then when the day changes it could be placed in the last article of the day or the first of the next day.I am trying your link to see if I can read the first Cnews article and have changed the number to 31. No luck so far with http://www.cannabisnews.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/cnews/newsread.pl?31 Actually I did not think about the articles not making the front page. A list would allow people to know "the rest of the stories."
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 12:28:24 PT

Virgil
CNews has 30 articles down the middle of the front page and 60 off to the right side which are the ones that appear in the view next 30. I know that WAMM used a link to the Medical Marijuana Archives. It automatically updates as soon as I post it in the medical category. That's a nice feature with the archives. I need to get some more mowing done but I'm waiting for an article about what's going on in Washington. I really have a lot to mow. A couple acres and soon the big tractor and brush hog for the hay field that we don't use anymore. I plug into Bon Jovi and get going. It's cold today though but at least it isn't raining. Life on the farm is kinda laid back! LOL!http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #17 posted by Sam Adams on May 22, 2003 at 12:26:15 PT

Cnews
FOM it is a family of sorts - of "kindred souls".  I was into computers early on and participated in a lot of the old dial-up BBS's (actually hosted one in college) and BITNET email, etc.  I never would have imagined that it would eventually lead to something like CNEWS, and all the other websites in every possible flavor. Good work!
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Comment #16 posted by Virgil on May 22, 2003 at 12:09:30 PT

Boy, I thought I might have to do some work
FoM, list are everywhere. The front page is mainly a list of the top 30 articles in an expanded form. DrugWars.com list their articles on the upperleft hand side of the page and where you have the previous 30 articles, marijuana.com moves there older ones with a title and the number of comments to the left hand side. Pot-tv does have a top 10 list for its shows on file. I am not trying to be mouthy, but let's say my pee and vinegar was up and I wanted to post a condensed list at the hempcity forum. Billy Barker used to regularly post articles at the DE board but it is not done regularly at hempcity and actually there may not be one much less two articles put up on any day. There were 98 registered members a few days ago and there is no news links on what will one day soon be an active website. It is not that I would want to put up a list for Cnewsers. It is that I wish there was a list so I could easily copy it to hempcity. It would just be for people that want to copy and paste links to other forums. I will say that if I had my choice of features to add to Cnews one would be to search by present methods and by year or time frame. And secondly, as the Cnews record is a list of 16,354 articles with articles and comments, it would be nice to jump in at a point as if it were today. Say like I just want to punch in article 10,000 and get the next 30 articles or say I do a search on Rainbow Farms and want to scroll that list as the events of Labor Day weekend 2 years ago unfolded. It assumes the Cnews archive is scheduled for long term storage. Anyway, it all sounds like work for somebody. Cnews is one valuable archive. Right now if I could enter a number, I would go to the first article and read the first comments and stories and see how it all started.I better rest up now. I might have to escape from some work later on.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 12:03:23 PT

Important E-Mail News - HR 2086 DEFEATED
HR 2086 Defeated in Committee 
    
 Great News!HR 2086 Defeated in committee. The bill was featured as a front page story in Roll Call, which helped frame an exciting debate. I cant wait to hear reports from those who attended! Great work advocates!Steph ShererAmericans for Safe Access: http://www.safeaccessnow.org
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 11:51:05 PT

Virgil
I thought of something as far as articles from here that might do. I have the numbers set at 25,000 because it's going to take me a long time to post that many articles but if you put in the number of the article that starts the previous day this happens. It will up to 30 articles which is alot and I can't figure out how to only keep it at the previous day but this is just an idea. This covers even articles that I archive when we are flooded with news. http://www.cannabisnews.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/cnews/newsread.pl?16353
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 11:31:20 PT

Virgil
I don't think we can do it that way here. ( hyperlinking ) That's why posting Richard Cowan's articles would have had long urls in the article itself and wouldn't have looked right. I don't know how to do a list or what we would need to do. I don't know if it should be open to comments and people sending news articles or not. We could send an article to a list by using the email feature and it would look nice. I think we would have to add the link if someone on the list wanted to comment but I'm not sure. There's no rush. We need to figure out what busy people really want to know. That's the hard part. We'll figure it out.
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Comment #12 posted by Virgil on May 22, 2003 at 11:14:28 PT:

FoM
Who knows who will be able to waste the money, but I think the logic to sell the deal is that if the states won't persecute/prosecute MMJ patients and caretakers then the Feds need the money to make sure they don't go unpunished.What is it you wanted to do with an email list? You can email me or it is your show and you can say it here.You know how Mayan puts up links. When I am doing my wondering, I wonder if it would benefit the reform community if someone would comprise a list with a short description of all the articles of the day and put it up on the first entry of the next day. The one way to bring people to a cannabis perspective is to advance links to Cnews. With copy and paste and maybe a delete or two, a person can take the cannabis news of the day to their forum. It is beating the prohibitionists heads with list, in this case a list of articles that appeared the previous day.I have used the properties feature in edit hyperlinks in Microsoft Word to change the text of a link but it did not transfer properly to this box. Say I want to change this link where you can write Senator John McCain about the upcoming June 2nd vote on the FCC media consolidation- http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/fcc/i588dizvj6xd - so that it is a hyperlink with the words "Write Senator McCain about the June 2nd vote" I guess I should open Wordpad and explore. Rambling over.

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Comment #11 posted by FoM on May 22, 2003 at 10:50:20 PT

I'm Confused
I've look at this article and I understand giving more money to fight medical marijuana is wrong but what does it mean: House Republicans are pressing for legislation that would strip federal anti-drug money from local police in states that have passed medical marijuana laws.That means states with medical marijuana laws wouldn't have drug police chasing them around or am I reading this wrong?
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Comment #10 posted by Jose Melendez on May 22, 2003 at 04:31:04 PT

wow
http://www.cipherwar.com/news/00/gao_lawyers.pdfI'm having trouble copying some of the text from this pdf that describes regulations on partisan political activities. Someone should mine this public document to expose drug war crimes.
http://www.cipherwar.com/news/00/gao_lawyers.pdf
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on May 21, 2003 at 22:56:47 PT

Sam
I agree with you. We should care for those around us. They use to call that being a family. I'm kidding now but is a family important anymore? I don't see family values being encouraged much. They make laws to try to make us 'moral' by their standards and miss what being moral really is. We should teach others to be all that they can be but also teach them to be able to accept failure. We need to be able to fail or no one will ever try anything. They encourage being successful and base it all on money and jobs and who knows who. We need to get back to basic family principles to live in the new world we have been given even though many of us didn't want it to be this way. Each state should be able to decide their values and that is necessary since California is way different then say a southern state. Each state has developed it's own way of thinking and dealing with issues and now states rights are being taken away right before our eyes. Not even states can think for themselves.PS: CNews is a family of sorts too. 
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Comment #8 posted by Sam Adams on May 21, 2003 at 22:34:55 PT

overrated risk
FOM, I saw that about Yale, very strange. I don't blame your for not caring. A lot of people experience misfortune every day, what can we do except focus on the people in our lives? We don't need the government or media to tell us who to care about. Everytime someone is killed in Israel it's on the front page, and some poor black kid gets shot right here in this city and it's on page 3 of the City section. So much for the rah-rah United We Stand crap.

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Comment #7 posted by FoM on May 21, 2003 at 22:06:23 PT

Sam
Very well said. Maybe we will get tv news coverage if they keep stepping on states rights. We had an incident today at Yale. A bomb went off! I didn't think twice about it. After watching them bomb Iraq it will take a lot to get me to look more then once and that's not nice to become numb and uncaring but that's what will happen to people. They just won't care anymore. That's not the way to be but mental survival will make us tune out and turn off. Maybe that's what they want? 
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Comment #6 posted by Sam Adams on May 21, 2003 at 21:57:25 PT

Is the glass half full?
I've been sitting here for 5 minutes fuming over these latest outrages, surely some of the most frightening acts of oppression by US government in my lifetime. But then I thought, you know what, this may be exactly what we need. These state legislatures keep voting down medical marijuana year after year after year in total media silence. Maybe we need the pendulum to get up a little higher, to swing a little farther to the right before it gets enough momentum to come swooping back.The only question - is there anyone left in the mainstream media with a conscience? How far is this going to go before we get some kind of reaction from the media? Will we see handicapped people thrown to the lions on the White House lawn? Wouldn't surprise me. "This is a proven deterent to our children!" It would be the new weekly feature of "ONDCP RealTV"! Brought to you - commercial free - by US taxpayers!The one thing you have to give the Bush people credit for: They go all out. They are some high-ridin' baddass Republicans. They are not slick-Willie type compromisers, they go for the gusto. If I was an ignorant bigot they would definitely get my vote!
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on May 21, 2003 at 20:21:13 PT

We'll Find Out on the 22nd about Maryland
Hi Everyone,I just posted what is concerning medical marijuana with a link to the complete article. I'm hoping he won't change his mind but we know that they get pushed really hard and that's a darn shame. They are elected to serve the people not other politicans and I hope he does the right thing because we know he agrees with the use of Medical Marijuana.Ehrlich Vetoes Tax, Tuition Bills By Lori Montgomery, Washington Post Staff WriterThursday, May 22, 2003; Page A01 Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. issued the first vetoes of his administration yesterday, rejecting 19 bills, including measures that would have raised taxes on corporations, authorized Maryland localities to snare speeders with roadside cameras and offered lower, in-state tuition rates to some illegal immigrants.Ehrlich said he also will announce today whether he will sign three other pieces of closely watched legislation. Among them are: • A proposal to dramatically reduce the penalty for possession of marijuana if the accused can prove that the drug helps to relieve symptoms of a serious medical condition.Complete Article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23291-2003May21.html?nav=hptop_tb
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Comment #4 posted by The GCW on May 21, 2003 at 18:55:41 PT

Another Action Alert - (& get the right bill #)
In our haste to give you the information you need to stop the DEA from attacking AIDS and cancer patients, we accidentally gave you the wrong bill number.When calling your Members of Congress about this issue, please refer to bill number HR 2086. 
We are deeply sorry for the mistake. STOP CONGRESS FROM GIVING DEA MONEY TO ATTACK MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS
 
CALL RIGHT NOW - VERY URGENT. Vote is Morning of Thursday, May 22nd.Earlier this week we asked you to call the House Government Reform Committee and urge them to remove provisions from HR 2086 that would allow the White House to use the billion-dollar anti-drug ad campaign for partisan political purposes. Thanks to you, Congress is listening. Your calls have created a firestorm on the Committee that we hope will ultimately lead to the repeal of the propaganda provision.Now, we need your help to take out another bad provision.Buried within HR 2086 is a provision that allows the drug czar to divert over $10 million a year to the Drug Enforcement Administration's campaign of terror against medical marijuana patients and their caregivers. This money will come out of the federal government' s High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA) budget, which is supposed to go to local and state law-enforcement agencies to aid in their fight against serious drug trafficking. In other words, this provision will allow Drug Czar John Walters to shift federal money away from combating major crime syndicates to arresting medical marijuana patients and their caregivers! Worse still, because the drug czar will have the power to take funding away from local and state law-enforcement agencies, he will have a powerful weapon to punish police that support medical marijuana programs or refuse to assist federal agents in their on-going attack on AIDS and cancer patients. (The text of this dangerous provision is at the bottom of this e-mail)Since your calls to Congress earlier this week made a huge difference, we hope you can spare the time to make calls again. Thousands of AIDS and cancer patients need your help. ACTIONS TO TAKE1) If you're from a state with Representatives on the House Government Reform Committee, CALL THEM ALL TODAY (see list of Committee Members and contact information below). If you get this message Wednesday night, leave a message on their answering machine. The Committee will vote on Thursday, May 22nd at 10am (east coast time) so please call before then.**Tell them you want them to remove the section of HR 7083 that adds a new subsection (m) to Section 707 of the ONDCP Reauthorization Act. **Tell them this provision hurts local and state law-enforcement agencies and will undermine the ability of states to determine their own medical marijuana policies.2) Please forward this action alert to your friends and family. Unless Congress hears from thousands of voters this bill and its dangerous provision could easily become law.GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEECALIFORNIA:Doug Ose (R-3rd)
202-225-5716Henry A. Waxman (D-30th, Rnk. Mem)
202-225-3976Tom Lantos (D-12th)
202-225-3531Diane Watson (D-33rd)
202-225-7084Linda T. Sanchez (D-39th)
202-225-6676CONNECTICUT:Christopher Shays (R-4th)
202-225-5541DC:Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-Del.)
202-225-8050FLORIDA: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-18th)
202-225-3931John Mica (R-7th)
202-225-4035Adam Putnam (R-12th) 
202-225-1252GEORGIA:Nathan Deal (R-10th)
202-225-5211ILLINOIS: Danny K. Davis (D-7th) 
202-225-5006INDIANA: Dan Burton (R-5th) 
202-225-2276Mark Souder (R-3rd)
202-225-4436KENTUCKY:Ron Lewis (R-2nd)
202-225-3501 MARYLAND:Elijah Cummings (D-7th) 
202-225-4741Chris Van Hollen, Jr. (D-8th) 
202-225-5341C.A. Ruppersberger (D-2nd) 
202-225-3061MASSACHUSETTS:John F. Tierney (D-6th)
202-225-8020Stephen F. Lynch (D-9th)
202-225-8273MICHIGAN:Candice Miller (R-10th) 
202-225-2106MISSOURI:William L. Clay, Jr. (D-1st) 
202-225-2406NEW YORK:John McHugh (R-23rd)
202-225-4611Major R. Owens (D-11th)
202-225-6231Edolphus Towns (D-10th)
202-225-5936Carolyn Maloney (D-14th)
202-225-7944OHIO:Steven C. LaTourette (R-14th) 
202-225-5731Michael Turner (R-3rd)
202-225-6465Dennis J. Kucinich (D-10th)
202-225-5871OKLAHOMA:John Sullivan (R-1st) 
202-225-2211PENNSYLVANIA:Todd R. Platts (R-19th)
202-225-5836Timothy F. Murphy (R-18th)
202-225-2301Paul E. Kanjorski (D-11th)
202-225-6511SOUTH DAKOTA:William J. Janklow (R-At Large)
202-225-2801TENNESSEE:John J. Duncan Jr. (R-2nd) 
202-225-5435Marsha Blackburn (R-7th) 
202-225-2811Jim Cooper (D-5th) 
202-225-4311TEXAS:John R. Carter (R-31st)
202-225-3864Chris Bell (D-25th) 
202-225-7508UTAH:Chris Cannon (R-3rd) 
202-225-7751VIRGINIA: Thomas M. Davis III (R-11th), Chair 
202-225-3071Jo Ann S. Davis (R-1st)
202-225-4261Edward L. Schrock (R-2nd)
202-225-4215TEXT OF THE DANGEROUS PROVISIONThe dangerous provision in HR 2083 is the section that adds a new subsection (m), entitled "marijuana enforcement" to Section 707 of the ONDCP Reauthorization Act of 1998.The provision reads:`(m) MARIJUANA ENFORCEMENT- The Director may direct the reallocation of up to 5 percent of funds available for a fiscal year for the Program, from State and local law enforcement agencies to Federal law enforcement agencies to assist in enforcement of Federal law in high intensity drug trafficking areas containing States where State law permits the use of marijuana in a manner inconsistent with the Controlled Substances Act.
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Comment #3 posted by mayan on May 21, 2003 at 18:33:38 PT

Virgil...
The mere interest accumulating on the national debt now exceeds the total amount of revenue generated by taxes!!! Now, how can the government's top priority be destroying the cannabis culture? I mean, eradicating cannabis is now even a priority over fighting terrorism!!! If the government can keep the middle class down then who else will fight for cannabis law reform? If cannabis(medicinal & recreational) is never free, then industrial hemp will never be free. I believe that the war on drugs is ultimately a war on marijuana. Marijuana is the lame excuse the government has to maintain the ban on industrial hemp. Industrial hemp is a major threat to the petrochemical & pharmaceutical industries. If hemp becomes legal then the nations wealth will shift back to the farmer & to the people. That is why the power brokers feel they must eliminate the middle class.Here's the way I see it...the dollar will likely continue to plunge as the euro will become the dominant currency. Investors will then be very reluctant to invest in American capital. Why will the euro dominate? The euro is backed by gold and in a way it is the "anti-dollar". When the dollar falls, gold rises. When the euro falls, so does gold. Hence, when the euro rises - the dollar falls. The rich U.S. politicians & power brokeres know exactly what they are doing and can afford to invest in gold. Also, have you noticed how all of the decent manufacturing jobs in the U.S. are moving over the borders & seas? Isn't it obvious that the federal government is trying to bankrupt the states & eliminate the middle class once and for all? We will then be stuck with the bill as the fat cats make off like bandits! The vast majority of people will be working at places like McDonalds & will be even more dependent on the federal government. Hence the reason for the massive police-state that is forming. They will need it to keep all of the pissed-off people in line. The feds knew their power was slipping and felt compelled to move quickly & that is why they did 9/11. We were gaining much ground before then & look what has happened since. I believe that the fate of the U.S. depends greatly on what Canada does in the coming months and years and also on whether Americans hold their government accountable for the crimes of 9/11. If you haven't seen Mike Ruppert's video, "The Truth & Lies of 9/11" - it is a must see!!! The way out IS the way in...9-11 Damage Control Team Testifies Friday on Air Defense Failure:
http://www.tomflocco.com/9-11_Damage_Control_Team_testifies.htmMichele Landsberg loses it(character assassination)
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/site/story.asp?id=D7FDBD3D-B5A8-457B-8389-BE8BC3A20BC1Barbs aside, 9/11 questions aren't going away - by MICHELE LANDSBERG:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251602426&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154Mike Ruppert on Amy Goodman and the 9/11 Latecomers:
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/0518_ruppert911.html9/11 Film Draws Overflow Crowd:
http://onlinejournal.com/Media/050703Lynn/050703lynn.html
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Comment #2 posted by Virgil on May 21, 2003 at 16:15:01 PT

Souder will get his
The House bill is sponsored by Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind., Bob Barr got his release from Congress in the last election. Souder will soon get his. How could someone so rabed and misguided ever get elected to start with.They better get the money while they can. We already have record deficits with 18% of discretionary spending going to interest on the national debt. The hole is getting so deep that even the tall people that used to say they can still see are worried. In 5 years people born in 1946 will be asking for those SS checks and noone will be able to justify this waste or this policy if it somehow powers a survival above all reason.Look kids, even Souder can be a Senator. If he can be one, anyone can.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on May 21, 2003 at 16:14:31 PT

I'm Really Upset
What kind of country do we live in anymore? People can't even work hard to bring change to bad laws without the government fighting us tooth and nail and with our own tax money!
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