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  Palliative Care Doctors Cautious about Marijuana

Posted by CN Staff on October 22, 2002 at 19:20:06 PT
By The Canadian Press 
Source: Canadian Press  

Many doctors tending to the terminally ill are still extremely cautious about the use of medical marijuana despite growing pressure to embrace it. Palliative care specialists attending a national conference in Edmonton were told Monday that clinical trials haven't yet shown that pot is an effective medical therapy for those with terminal illnesses. They also heard marijuana can produce negative side-effects, especially in older patients. 
"Patients often get what we call disphoria, which is a sense of unwell-being, and this can last for hours, up to days," said Dr. Ingrid de Kock of the Regional Palliative Care Program in Edmonton. "Patients might also go so far as to get hallucinations or acute anxiety attacks or acute mania. "We have so many medications that have better side-effect profiles in palliative care patients, that do an even better job than what marijuana possibly can." De Kock said there's growing pressure by some patient advocacy groups for doctors to embrace medical marijuana. Some patient groups have complained they're not getting enough help from the medical community in applying for legal exemptions that allow people to smoke pot for chronic illnesses. Officials with the palliative care program in Edmonton have decided not to support those applications. De Kock said they want to see the effectivness of pot proven in clinical trials before they will recommend it. "It's fraught with practical as well as ethical difficulties," she said. "Many or most of the patients at the end of their lives are too sick to be interested in being involved with research studies." Complete Title: Palliative Care Doctors Cautious about Marijuana, Edmonton Conference ToldSource: Canadian PressPublished: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 Copyright: 2002 The Canadian PressRelated Articles & Web Site:Canadian Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/can.htmCanadian HIV Study Uses U.S. Marijuana http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14501.shtmlPot Prescriptions - Hamilton Spectator http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14025.shtml 

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Comment #24 posted by FoM on October 23, 2002 at 21:08:32 PT
DdC
I know now why I have always liked you. ( Even though you've tried to drive me to drink a few times LOL!) We need more people like you in the field you are in. It is almost a calling if that makes sense. Keep it up and thank you.
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Comment #23 posted by DdC on October 23, 2002 at 17:19:50 PT
Its getting better all the time FoM...
I perefer waking up at "work", easiest commute I've ever had. And I will gather caregivers to fill in positions on private cases to help families stay at home. A Community networking to match cg's to patients is needed Nationwide. Standards and proper training and pay so we aren't forced to "cut out the middlemen". The government isn't helping much. But the corporate warehouses are worse than small group homes. Which I've seen more of in the last 5 or so years. The ratio's of warehouses are 18-20 patients per aid, leaving little time for companionship and outings. Its cost effective and as I said minimizes the risk by doping and tie downs. BUT the smaller ratio homes are the next best and give a personal touch. I've heard of a bill in the Senate to help subsidize homecare was working its way. I'm not holding my breath.Usually "care homes" speak the same language which is sometimes the only thing a patient can do. Thats a problem besides family not living in the area in this nuclear age. Working families have to work. Thats what angers me so much that they will subsidize corporate warehouses at three times what it would cost at home. (Cutting out the middlemen). The gall of the government profiting on seniors aging or disease is so low I don't know what to call it. Used up and discarded like the Vets in warehouses. Wasting $20 billion on this stupid cannabis war creating more American victims. I seriously doubt if Americans are running the show anymore.Someday the basics will fall under Life and Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and we can concentrate on better things. Now, like the truth of cannabis the media is mum and we do what we can. Santa Cruz has an awareness of the situation and provides some County funding and many senior centers and outlets and connections. Meals on Wheels to shut ins, Grey Bears, Handicabs, Liftline, a good bus system and a great Hospice. Several care management agencies that will try and accommodate but the cost is more than most can handle. Community awareness on both subjects is something each person can do. The National level is a long crooked road but people helping people gets through it. The Rest Homes should be thorally checked and I mean at night, after hours as well as when they want. And individual home care also btw. I tell the families to check the caregivers I hire as well as myself, anytime they want. And there shouldn't be any access to money or valuables unless its for case management. Abuse awareness gets better on TV, then fades and then when something is reported stays in the media then fades. If we all spoke out it would be heard and possibly dealt with, but not with Bush and D.E.A.th profiting on disease. Marching on Washington with the Cannabis Movement and the other victims of WoD'sPetro Pharmaceuticals and Fascism would be nice.If checking after hours is a problem then ask why? Check the state registry and Sheriffs and local Senior centers for recommendations. Profits are a real part of the problem and sometimes peoples needs are overlooked to save expenses. Making someone a zombie to save time isn't American. Check it out...It may seem rude but the problems happen at night and off hours and guided tours won't show it. With fancy lights and furniture comes overhead. Caregivers are another open season across the board mix of people with different motives. Different pay scales and different experience. The price they pay a caregiver is nice to know. If its chinsy pay its probably chinsy service. The best thing anyone can do is to just don't get old. So when I can get SS I'm heading back to the 60's. ¶8) DdC
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on October 23, 2002 at 11:46:14 PT
DdC
Thank You. I know you have experience with seniors and it helps to read how you deal with it. We hope that a nursing home won't be required but we also know that if he gets where in home care can't work we won't have a choice. The hospice nurses are kind. They have different folks come to see him. Like a lady who will vacuum and pick up a little and a minister and a person who comes and sings to him and plays a guitar. It helps because that gives my husband a little break. Stick doesn't work much anymore. This way we can care for him and get by on what we have. I am just glad so far that we are able to handle it at home. A nursing home isn't where I want to leave this world but in my own home with those I love with me. 
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Comment #21 posted by DdC on October 23, 2002 at 11:32:13 PT
Sometimes its a judgement call FoM...
Damned if you do and damned if you don't concerning seniors, drugs and falls. Warehouses usually will dope em up and strap them down to avoid lawsuits or scraps and cuts from falls. Most home bound patients I've cared for hate the thought of warehouses and losing their possessions. They and families also know the risk and prefer occassional falls to the daily zombie life straped down in a bed or chair. Most would never permit strapdowns and hate the doping.Cannabis may make a patient a tad rebellious and cause problems when they try and walk without the legs for it. But its a life and not a zombie your dealing with. I've had my share of emergency room visits to stitch up a patient. But family, patients and their doctors all say overall its better. I would hate to lose a patient to doping them up. Walking dead...Most of the time the caregiver can be there when the patient needs to move and avoid the falls. But it will happen. It will happen at home or in the warehouses. Even strapped down. Either from anger, dementia or intoxication from hard drugs but its a part of winding down. No one can stop a patient deciding to jump up from a wheelchair. Strapped down they not only get hurt from hitting the ground but also from a strapped wheelchair landing on top of them. Or at night. I had to put a mattress on the floor to keep a patient from harm who kept jumping (crawling actually) over the bedrails at night. Alarms can be made about 3 times cheaper from Radio Shack than buying a medical device. The word medical means whatever it is, its now more expensive. Like an aspirin in a hospital cost what a bottle normally would cost. Homecare can be expensive, especially without cutting out the middlemen. Meaning many seniors are forced into hiring caregivers at specific times, and the other times the patient fends for themselves. Since the government won't subsidize homecare as they do warehouses, the risk is there for falls to happen. Even 24 hr care at a discount over hourly paid wages means a lapse in time when a patient could fall. 24 hours shifts require sleep, eating and errands and if the patient is set on getting up then there isn't much you can do except be there to try and put humpty back together again.Its all about quality of life not quantity of life. Though many don't realize this and cause misery in the name of longentivity. Cannabis helps the quality of life or I wouldn't advocate it. Hempseed provides nutrition or I wouldn't use it. Those EFA's and Omega ammino acids are good fer ya. As for the slight paranoia of doors being knocked down. I used to think cannabis caused most of those feelings, but it happens daily and the D.E.A.th do drag off seniors and 735,000 were busted and made criminals last year so now I believe its one of those things you got to be careful with. An unpleasant side effect caused by a political fungus. More than one copshop has supplied their retirements with forfeited homes of patients using cannabis. When the law is set up for theives, cops can legally steal. Sad state of affairs. Sounds like Sticks Dad's in good hands though. cya...DdC
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Comment #20 posted by goneposthole on October 23, 2002 at 10:50:57 PT
Parkland hemp growers
Link to their website.
http://www.pihg.org
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Comment #19 posted by goneposthole on October 23, 2002 at 10:40:47 PT
hemp in Canada
The harvested hemp fields in Canada are closely monitored in the following spring. When combined some hempseed falls through the sieves and ends up on the ground. Herbicides are used to kill volunteer hemp otherwise they then become cannabis with higher thc content than alllowed by the Canadian gov.A company in Canada has one million pounds of hempseed for sale and lots of round bales of hempstocks on the ground. Breeder plots exist near Dauphin, Manitoba. I have visited and observed those breeder plots. Hemp is planted every year to maintain the seed stock.
Some hemp plants definitely have thc content so high that they are no longer planted as hemp. There are plenty of hempfields in the Dauphin area.
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Comment #18 posted by Ethan Russo MD on October 23, 2002 at 10:37:42 PT:
Leftover Leaf
I suspect that it is composted.Yes, industrial hemp contains cannabinoids such as CBD in large amounts that could be of great medical utility.I have written about the English and other European herbalists who used cannabis for burns, arthritis and other ills before they had access to "Indian hemp" with its far greater THC content.
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Comment #17 posted by p4me on October 23, 2002 at 09:32:56 PT
Thanks Dr. Russo,but
Your comment helped some as the hempfoods are still permitted in the US although the DEA is out to stop it. Just how long does it take a court to rule on the issue anyway? It has been about a year now since the DEAth went into the law proclamation business taking on the perils of hempfood.But the question remains on the buds of hemp plants. Now in either "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" or the "Emperor of Hemp"- the video, somebody, if not Jack Herer himself, says smoking hemp could kill you. But, it is obvious there is some chemical difference in the hemp that is legal in Canada and elsewhere and the recreational hemp that is illegal most everywhere.Remember the article a few weeks back that tried to pin the water shortage in Afganistan on people growing cannabis for sale in Europe (or wherever buyers paid cash)instead of the 5 year drought. I did not hit the nail on the head with the idea that parts of the crop might well be edible. I did raise the issue of the stalk being used as firewood and I should have raised the issue of using fiber in clothing. If the journalist were really trying to inform us of something he would have addressed the issue of the utilization of the cannabis crop in meeting everyday needs in this war-out and impoverished region of the world.Now we have reports from China where they are growing species of hemp for exact uses such as fiber and food and I hope we will here more detail of their strains and strategies using cannabis. But in this case, I would like to narrow the issue to legal hemp in Canada. Seeds can be used for food, fiber for clothes, and pulp for paper. But what about the buds and leaves. What happens to this part of the plant. Is it composted or fed to the chickens? And even more specifically do the buds in these legal hemp plants contain any of the other cannabanoids that might be useful to people with conditions like arthritis or Crohn's disease?1
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on October 23, 2002 at 08:42:28 PT
DdC
Thank you for your comments. You know I appreciate them. The way I look at this whole situation is this way. I keep my eyes on what I am doing and don't look left or right. I don't go to other web sites except Mapinc. even if I have free time. You know what blinkers are that they use on horses? They only allow the horse to look forward so things behind them or on their sides don't spook them. I put on my blinkers and that way I don't get rattled by issues that I have no control over and that allows me to do what I do here and not get all rattled. When my father in law hits his life alert it has been because he got too messed up and passes out. He has passed out at the kitchen table more then once and falls out of the chair and hits his head. My husband stays with him until he is settled in bed and is ok. He then tells me that Dad was all messed up and he gets annoyed. Cannabis won't do that but those nasty narcotics will. I wonder how many seniors die from falls because of narcotics. I bet a lot. My father in law is afraid to try Cannabis because he thinks the government will knock down his door and put him in jail. That is another thing that is so sad that someone my father in laws age fears the government. The madness must stop and as long as we all do what we feel we should we can win this war. I really do believe what I say or I couldn't keep doing this day after day.Peace, FoM!
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Comment #15 posted by Ethan Russo MD on October 23, 2002 at 07:32:40 PT:
Hemp Foods
Hemp foods are made from the seed. The cannabinoids are produced in gladular trichomes that are most dense in the flowers and calyces around the seeds, and to a lesser extent, appear on the leaves. Modern processing techniques eliminate all but traces of THC and other cannabinoids from the seeds. They are apt to have close to none if the seed is pre-hulled.Meanwhile, the seed contains large amounts of linoleic (LA), linolenic (LNA) and gamma-linolenic acids (GLA). These are essential fatty acids not produced in the human body. Linolenic acid (LNA)is anti-inflammatory by virtue of additional metabolism, while GLA produces a block in the formation of pro-inflammatory compounds from arachidonic acid (AA). Dietary inclusion of LNA and GLA are very helpful in treatment of chronic inflammatory diseases and pain states. GLA is specifically recommended by some physicians to treat rheumatoid arthritis and multiple sclerosis. It is hard to find in the diet: mother's milk, evening primrose oil, blackcurrant seed oil, borage seed oil, and hemp seed oil are the usual sources. 
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Comment #14 posted by p4me on October 23, 2002 at 07:07:13 PT
Hemp and cannabinoids
CBD,CBG, and CBN are cannabanoids found in marijuana in addition to THC. Of course the big focus to save us all from hempfoods from DEAth is that these products cannot have any THC. My question is, "Do hemp foods have other cannabinoids and are these cannabanoids illegal also?" I especially wonder if hempfoods might help with arthritis or even Crohn's disease? Is there a doctor in the house?1
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Comment #13 posted by DdC on October 23, 2002 at 00:45:19 PT
Hey FoM 
Where else can you read and discuss a hemp bill from South Dakota page 47 of some Gazzette or a Medical ganja farm in Santa Cruz local news mag if ya live in Yonkers?I found a one dollar cup of coffee given up daily is $365.00 a year and giving MAP INC that measley amount is one of the soundest investments today. That and getting free joy ganja homecaring and passing the latest cannabis news. I think it might be hard to tell you and Valerie apart, because of both of you being so at peace in these stressful times, as I've said many times I wish I had your passive resistance nature, while in the combat zone. That is a true sign of inner strength. I have to hold up under pressure with patients and don't have a problem with stressful situations in hospice work or before while running a boiler cogeneration system. But to see the garbage of WoD with pure flat out cannabis ignorance blasted daily and not get hateful or wish vengence or even cursing them out. Or letting the D.E.A.th go to avoid further tyrannical acts after being victimized out your own bed. That I have a problem with and don't know if I want to stop hating D.E.A.th. Even though I know its not good to hate. I have never experienced a more rightous thing to hate than D.E.A.th and its Prohibition of Cannabis, victimizing the sick and dying and their caregivers. And a more rightous thing to advocate for than Safe Sacramental Cannabis, Food, Fuel, Fiber, FARMaceuticals, Hardrug and Booze Alternative... ¶8) May Peace Be With Us, Thanks...
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Comment #12 posted by DdC on October 23, 2002 at 00:03:19 PT
FoM It's sometimes Soooo Hard Helping Patients...
and fighting the bogeyman. It's taken me literally months before some family members even want me to bring it up to the doctors. Even the word scares the begeezus out of seniors old enough to remember the first wave of Reefer Madness. Constant Headlines treating cannabis the same as the World Trade Towers. Hearst and most of the top media promoting Farbin Industries and blasting against what they termed anti-fascist. Promoting crude oil and Pharmaceuticals. Using racism and racist slurs as headlines. Including the coined stigmatizer with 349 pounds of baggage, "marihuana". How can a law even include a racist slur vulgar title? Or a medical paper? Equivalent to ...Equal Rights for "add racial slur". So I do understand how they can feel the way they do. Especially when the politically correct reinforce the bogeyman stories today. And some WoDite will glance or upnose even the mention of trying it. Better to suffer for the sake of the kids hogwash. And I've had patients actually believe it, and suffer through it. Knowing and yet not ethically able to help. Thats the bottom line. Its their choice, not mine to make for them. If the patients ok with it then the doctors generally abide by their wishes. Unless a family member intervenes. Then at the risk of being removed, its my obligation to protect the patients right to use. But I haven't had a problem in over 20 years helping patients get it and 12 cannabis home caring. I have never had a doctor warn me of my personal use interfering with any medication since 1970 or so. I.m sure it has something to do with not getting colds too. As I found it preserves milk I have to assume others know it too.The same corporate media blast the ugly side caused by the prohibition, the same as blaming booze for the St.Valentines Day Massacre. Or Rainbow Farm massacre. Speaking out to Physicians is an easy way to be discredited as a Home Health Aid unless you can back it up and have a better than average reputation in caring for patients. Bringing in money to the agencies is how I've survived their way of expensive cya caring. Cutting out the middlemen fascism works best for me and the patients. I relate better with working people than the wealthy who are generally the only ones who can afford to live their lives out at home, without family nearby. Unkle Sam will fork out three times as much for corporate warehousing and Nada for staying at home. Let alone buying inflated priced ganja. Even with solid credentials the Physicians will try every Pharm aid in their arsenal including the last resort, Marinol. Before granting permission verbally or turning their head. Cops and Coroners tend to follow the politically sound policies and if cannabis is initiated then generally the patients use is less priority than a commercial grower. But it depends how chronic the Reefer Mad Feever is. Some places were still hanging people with over a pound in the early 60's. Okies given 90 years, no one in the U.S.should have any doubts that that is insane.Period. Insane.Morphine Rox Cocktails for hospice cases is the primary prescription. I've worked with several pro-cannabis Doctors who have actually choose not to use cannabis because they said "It might prolong their life and suffering". But when it happens it is so glorious to witness. The patients and families and Doctors behind it. Ganja helps in seniors without terminal illness. Caring for Cerebral Palsy or early Parkinson can aid in sleep and eating and liquids and thats a solid foundation to treat an illness. Dancing to the Dead with a senior who is Dying, while sipping Ganja tea is something ya just smile at thinking about it. Contentment at night is priceless. And when the end is near and hospice enters the scene and the patient stops the Pharmaceuticals the ganja is still welcomed. To explain the peace and joy that I get when a patient is comfortable with or without ganja. Its something ya just want everyone to experience but they think your crazy and run away. I think it is crazy treating a sacrament like a criminal and the majority have practiced this craziness so long they're comfortable with it and sanity brings the fear of responsibility. Oh My Liars and Thugczars and D.E.A.th. Oh My. I also think some religions want us to suffer and pay for our sins and that is also pretty crazy. Westerners like me at one time, have a weird time of dying. Like it ain't natural or something. Depression good Euphoria bad. Afraid of laughing dying people I guess. Holding on more as a possession than a respected loving person. Profits drive the society of pills and liquors and society can change on a grand scale as isolated pockets have done. But we most likely will be up against the wall as a country before the Fascist retreat. And I'm not sure how this trapped rat WoD will act when the world cranks up the heat. So I take care of one at a time. And express my thoughts until they close the internet.Prohibition causes schwag to be used. Schwag causes D.E.A.th statistics in eradications and in using medicinally. Hemp seed is nutritional, therefore medicinal. But the hemp buds are schwag and when Dupont and Bush used them they got the negative results they wanted medicinally. Same with forcing patients to the streets today. The key to medicinal cannabis in mho is consistency of good buds. Leaves for external and schwag food grade seed for nutrition or the stalks for herbicides, pesticide, soil conditioner, fiberwood/steel and fuel. The non food grade seeds also for fuel or lubrication. Holy cow FoM I filled a page without even trying... ¶8) So I'm happy for you and Stick and his father. Make him comfy, get high and Shake Your Bones with him in the Celebration of his Life... ¶8)Lets Try Peace and Celebrating Life over the sin of D.E.A.th and Cages!DdC
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on October 22, 2002 at 22:59:14 PT
DdC and Everyone
I was looking around at web sites and checked out WAMM and they are using two main links to us here on Cannabis News. That sure made me smile and I thought it would make you all smile too. Here's the page and the links are near the top.http://www.wamm.org/inthenews.htm
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Comment #10 posted by Had Enough on October 22, 2002 at 22:13:45 PT
“better side effects profile” my foot
"We have so many medications that have better side-effect profiles in palliative care patients, that do an even better job than what marijuana possibly can.”Yeah better side effect profiles. (This is new terminology to me “better side effects profile” my foot.) Drugs like Morphine, Xanex, Percecets, etc…This is your solution? Put them in zombieland? Dementia, have you heard of that one Doc.? Until you have to watch somebody you care deeply about endure to wrath these soul robbing, family destroying, doctor prescribed, FDA approved, so called “better side effect profile drugs” do to people, you should see for yourself in real life, not doctor hours life, what these things do. Be with some of these people 24/7, guaranteed you will change your mind. With the statements made in this article, you are not contributing very much to mankind. Who do you think you are fooling with this crap? Do yourself and others around you a favor check out the real world, see what these, “better side effect profile drugs” really do, before you ruin the good word of medical practitioners who really care and try to help their patients. If you were my doctor, I would find another one. With this type of mindset, your recommendations can be a clear and present danger to the very same person that came to you for help. What do you prescribe? Medication with a high potential of abuse, instead of something that might really help comfort the infirm. No thank you sir. Keep your drugs to yourself unless there is absolutely no other choice. Quit slamming the door shut on all possible choice!!!"Patients often get what we call disphoria, which is a sense of unwell-being, and this can last for hours, up to days," said Dr. Ingrid de Kock of the Regional Palliative Care Program in Edmonton. "Patients might also go so far as to get hallucinations or acute anxiety attacks or acute mania.” As mentioned in my comments above, this is exactly what these “better side effect drugs” do.
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Comment #9 posted by karkulus on October 22, 2002 at 22:11:56 PT
well,do they let them enjoy the buzz ,maybe ...
 Listen to some Bing Crosby (a pot smoker) ,or do they sit by the bed asking "Are you SURE you don't feel "disphoric"???"?
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on October 22, 2002 at 21:46:29 PT
DdC
Just this week my father in law shocked my husband when he asked his Hospice nurse if marijuana could make him feel better. He saw the program on CBS this past Sunday. She told him that it would probably help him but don't say she said so. Isn't that sad. 
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Comment #7 posted by DdC on October 22, 2002 at 21:41:43 PT
Chemically Induced Nightmares Eliminated with Pot
Damn these wingnut D.E.A.th Mongers bogus theories and hobgobblins. Cannabis does more beneficially for seniors than any Pharmaid white powder treating side effects and symptoms. Clearing dementia, or lifting depressive conditions, pain and aches causing discomfort. But the greatest benefit is providing a sound sleep. Eliminating the 24 hour catnaps. There are so many hallucinating white powders from Prostate treatment to sleep aids, why would they even bring it up. Extractums and Brownies eliminate toking if that is a problem. Stimulating liquid intake and appetites and decreasing phlegm and drooling without buying out the Drug Store inventory..I've found from personal experience treating patients with cannabis that the dreaded euphoria, being a major cause of Reefer Madness prohibition. Is minor after the first few times and a lot easier to deal with than bloody, chemically induced nightmares from Neurological meds. Or the drugged out for days condition of even the mildest white powder sleep aids and tranqs. Any heart condition bad enough for a small bp spike from cannabis use to harm them is bad enough to harm from any disturbance or rush. And any doctor would know if this condition existed. Cannabis provides a peaceful, relaxing transformation while dying as opposed to a drug induced opiated comatose victim. Why these profiteers don't shrivel up and blow away is beyond me...Peace, Love and Liberty or the Old Foggy Sickness of D.E.A.thDr. Anthony Henman: "One of the best effects Marijuana can have in any terminal illness is to produce a degree of euphoria which boosts morale in a depressing situation" The Economist March 28th 1992: "Medicines often produce side effects. Sometimes they are physically unpleasant. Cannabis too has discomforting side effects, but these are not physical they are political" Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA: "Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia" Dr. Andrew Weil (Rubin & Comitas Ganja in Jamaica, 1975) "a-motivation [is] a cause of heavy marijuana smoking rather than the reverse" "Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there." - William E. Dodd, U.S. Ambassador to Germany, 1937. Continued... http://www.sumeria.net/politics/shadv3.htmlD.E.A.th Deceptions
http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/ddc/DEAth.htmlU.S.Al Qaeda!
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/39/39670.gifThugczar Wally
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Rx Marijuana
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on October 22, 2002 at 20:36:07 PT

Dr. Russo
My husband sent the video today from CBS News Sunday Morning Program. It is stopped where the program begins. It isn't very good quality ( old VCR ) but it makes up for it with how good it is. You should get it tomorrow or the next day.
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Comment #5 posted by afterburner on October 22, 2002 at 20:12:15 PT:

The question is simple, my friends.
DRUG. (obsolete : a substance used in dyeing or chemical operations; a substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication c according to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body (4) : a substance intended for use as 
a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part, or accessory of a device; a commodity that is not salable or for which there is no demand -- used in the phrase drug on the market; something and often an illegal substance that causes addiction, habituation, or a marked change in consciousness).I object. ENFORCEMENT. (to give force to : STRENGTHEN; to urge with energy; CONSTRAIN, COMPEL; obsolete : to effect or gain by force; to carry out effectively ). I object. ADMINISTRATION. (performance of executive duties : MANAGEMENT; the act or process of administering; the execution of public affairs as distinguished from policy-making). I object. The question is simple, my friends. Do you want your ego destroyed (opiates, sedatives, alcohol), or do you want your ego transcended (cannabis, a mild psychedelic ["mind-manifesting". The word was coined by Dr. Humphrey Osmond in the 1950's.], et al.)? It's okay to choose both, but only if you are very careful and very powerful. (see Rites and Symbols of Initiation by Mircea Eliade). (1958b) Rites and Symbols of Initiation (Birth and Rebirth), trans. W. Trask, London: Harvill Press. (The publication of Eliade's 1956 Haskell Lectures at the University of Chicago, 'Patterns of Initiation'. His analysis of initiatory themes implies their ubiquity and structure as a symbolic death and rebirth.) Do you want to go out with a whimper or a bang?Mircea Eliade: From Primitives To Zen
http://alexm.here.ru/mirrors/www.enteract.com/jwalz/Eliade/

Mircea Eliade-biography etc.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on October 22, 2002 at 20:00:03 PT

Just a Comment
Very sick people can have the exact same reactions to any medicine they might use. The one thing that is a definite is Cannabis will not cause a person harm like chemical drugs do. That's enough proof of its worth to me.
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Comment #3 posted by idbsne1 on October 22, 2002 at 19:52:31 PT

BTW...
No offense to you doctor Russo. Your compassion and intelligence always shines!idbsne1
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Comment #2 posted by Ethan Russo MD on October 22, 2002 at 19:48:33 PT:

What Will Be
There will be a clinical trial in palliative care in Canada in the near future. A lot of people are apt to be surprised how well it works, and how well it is tolerated.
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Comment #1 posted by idbsne1 on October 22, 2002 at 19:40:19 PT

Chicken sh*t doctors....
Lying sacks of crap....They seem to forget that God didn't say anything about clinical trials.Do you need clinical trials for alcohol?Bastard hypocrites. For people who are supposed to be intelligent, doctors are about as dumb as a door knob. Why?Because their ego displaces logic.idbsne1
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