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Czar Says Marijuana Plan Would Mean More Addicts
Posted by CN Staff on October 10, 2002 at 18:07:45 PT
By The Associated Press 
Source: Reno Gazette-Journal 
The federal drug czar says he didn't visit Nevada to tell people how to vote on a state ballot initiative that would legalize possession of small amounts of marijuana. John P. Walters said Thursday he came to set the record straight on the proposal to legalize possession of up to 3 ounces of marijuana.Walters, chief of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said opponents of Question 9 feel like a"megaphone of big bucks"is spreading false information.
"We have a momentous decision in this state. That's why I came,"he said during a visit to a WestCare Nevada Treatment Center that treats teen addicts."I'm not here as a federal official to wag my finger at the people of Nevada."Residents shouldn't think there's a benefit if the measure passes, he said, because"no community is better off with more drugs.""Don't let the community just walk away from this one,"said Walters, adding that Question 9 would just create a bigger demand for drug treatment programs.Walters also visited the state in July to urge a"no"vote on Question 9, saying Nevada shouldn't become the center for drug tourism.Billy Rogers, head of Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement, the main political group supporting the measure, said there's no evidence the initiative's passage would create more drug addicts.He pointed out that the drug czar's own Web site shows the majority of drug addicts in Nevada were treated last year for an amphetamine addiction."I think it's about time the drug czar was held accountable to the outright falsehoods he's been putting out there,"Rogers said.Complete Title: Drug Czar says Nevada Marijuana Plan Would Mean More AddictsOn the Net:http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.govSnipped: Complete Article: http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2002/10/10/25703.phpSource: Reno Gazette-Journal (NV)Published: October 10, 2002Copyright: 2002 Reno Gazette-Journal Website: http://www.rgj.com/Contact: rgjmail nevadanet.comRelated Articles & Web Sites:NRLEhttp://www.nrle.org/Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/Drug Czar Says State Faces Liability http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14418.shtmlWhy Question 9 is Bad for Nevadahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14401.shtml
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Comment #24 posted by DANA on October 11, 2002 at 08:08:27 PT
VitaminT....
.....That is OUTSTANDING!!........."Killer",,,as we used to say here in CA
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Comment #23 posted by VitaminT on October 11, 2002 at 07:41:27 PT
How about an open letter campaign to Janet!
I'd like a list of media email addresses if someone has one handy! Here's my letter, please feel free to use the text and modify it as you wish and send it en masse to everyone you can!
BTW Janet's website gives the following addresses: info gojanet.org and elly gojanet.org (Tuscon office)Begin letter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An open letter to Candidate for Governor - Janet Napolitano,I understand you smoked pot while you were in college - that doesn't bother me at all - I did too! What does bother me is that you now advocate arresting and jailing people who do the same thing as you and I did!Ms. Napolitano, that is wrong! Your pat answer that "203 sends the wrong message to Arizona" is only a thin veil for the ACTUAL message you send - I AM A HYPOCRITE!Were you ever at any real risk of going jail for your pot smoking? I doubt it, but you would happily see others arrested and marched off to prison for doing no more than you've admitted to! You won't lose a moment of sleep if thousands of families are torn apart by the cost of court appearances, legal fees, lost wages, lost jobs, lost student financial aid, kids deprived of a father or a mother - all over the smoking of a joint! I'd speculate that you're willing to stoop this low, NOT because on any message it sends to Arizona - but the message it sends to the elite crowd financing your campaign! Politics is a dirty business and you are wallowing in some pretty nasty filth! Since you're running for Governor and all, perhaps you'd consider cleansing yourself of the stain of hypocrisy - Do the right thing, stand up and say - I BROKE THE LAW, PLEASE ARREST AND PROSECUTE ME, I DESERVE TO GO TO JAIL - BECAUSE I SMOKED POT.I will if you will!
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Comment #22 posted by Ethan Russo MD on October 11, 2002 at 06:35:36 PT:
Right
Malleus has an excellent point. Hypocrisy is endemic among politicians, and is an insidious disease. It must be confronted relentlessly. In a time where chauvinism and jingoism rule, a little humilty it a worthwhile quality to desire in our supposed leaders.
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Comment #21 posted by malleus on October 11, 2002 at 06:08:26 PT
Found something interesting
I don't believe it was posted in any of the articles we have read here:AZ Governor Candidate Admits Pot Usage in College (Hypocrisy Alert!!!)
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readarticle.cgi?101+4285Here's what it said:Because Napolitano opposes Proposition 203 and admitted to smoking marijuana, she was asked a follow-up question. If police had caught her smoking pot in college, would she want to have been arrested, jailed, strip-searched and charged with a felony — as required by Arizona’s current system? Or would she rather have been dealt with under the lenient Proposition 203 provisions, which would prohibit her arrest and punish her only with a citation and $250 fine? Napolitano responded to the Tribune with a stare. Asked again, she said only, "203 sends the wrong message to Arizona." This is what that guy Observer keeps talking about. Put the facts in their face. Ask them if they believe that they should be in jail for what they've done. Ask the questions that make them squirm, AND KEEP ASKING. Break them down, point out that they haven't answered the question and keep at them until they either admit they were wrong, or, even better, get them mad and have them say something that shows what fascists they really are.
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Comment #20 posted by malleus on October 11, 2002 at 05:53:21 PT
Cannabis leads to MORE addicts? How so? 
Especially when most addicts began with tobacco and alcohol. Cannabists only want weed. That's it. Nothing more. And they can walk away from it at anytime. Addicts? seems the only addicts we have are fed addicts to falsehoods and power.
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Comment #19 posted by DANA on October 11, 2002 at 05:42:32 PT
Right On GCW
..Thank You!.....I'm proud to have a Green Collar!JAH is no secret!.......JAH Shine on You my friend!
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Comment #18 posted by The GCW on October 11, 2002 at 05:17:53 PT
DANA
And may You shine on the prohibitionists.You are a Green Collar Worker.
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Comment #17 posted by DANA on October 11, 2002 at 05:03:38 PT
these comments are too good
.not only on this thread,,but throughout Cnews!....I am left speechless!....and perhaps that's good..(?)....May JAH shine on you all......
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Comment #16 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on October 11, 2002 at 04:58:12 PT
Go Oregon NORML!
Is there any chance this Oregon NORML show might appear on Pot-TV any time soon, for those of us outside the area?And is any part of Nevada in the viewing area?
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Comment #15 posted by mayan on October 11, 2002 at 03:55:01 PT
JSM...
That is exactly the way I feel! Does anybody really believe that the government would care if we all jumped off of cliffs(Except for the fact that they wouldn't be able to tax us or oppress us if we were dead)? Of course they wouldn't! They just don't want a sustainable culture. They want a culture that is dependent upon them for fuel,medicine,food,water,shelter,clothing,etc...regardless of the strain on the earth & it's peoples. Industrial hemp would have given power to the farmer instead of the material industrialists.Cannabis Hemp:The Invisible Prohibition Revealed -
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/invpro.html SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA:The Real Reason the Government Won't Debate Medical Cannabis and Industrial Hemp Re-legalization
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/shadv3.htmlIt appears that this bloated system based on greed has finally run it's course. Greed will now eat itself, but it will also try to eat everything else in it's path. The energy paradigm is shifting, as we all know it has to. Meanwhile, the old guard is too entrenched,too stubborn & too ignorant to snap out of their age-old denial. They will not aid in a smooth transition & will take the world down with them if we let them.The rogue congress has given King George II the power to use force in Iraq. Taxation without representation! We have tyranny!!! Remember the names of those who disregarded the will of the people & oust them in this election or in 2004! Their desire to attack Iraq is their last-ditch effort to delay the inevitable. Their power is slipping fast. Better days are ahead for this world, but before we see those days we may very well see a tyranny unlike any ever seen on this earth before. God help us all. House roll call on Iraq Resolution:
http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2002&rollnumber=455Senate roll call on Iraq resolution:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/vote1072/vote_00237.htmlThousands march against war - Candlelight vigil, procession again fill Seattle streets:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/90573_vigil10.shtmlOctober 31st - Don’t Attack Iraq Day of Protest:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/#day
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Comment #14 posted by DdC on October 11, 2002 at 02:52:01 PT
Would More Addicts Say Marijuana?
Czar Plan is Mean. Would More Booze and Hardrug Addicts Say Marijuana? If they could?The federal drug czar says he didn't visit Nevada. He says to tell people how to vote on a state ballot initiative that would legalize possession of small amounts of marijuana. As in Arizona telling the people they were stupid, dispicable, ignorant, addict maker, terrorist, illness treaters for passing two other initiatives. Warming up for his act in Vegas and Reno.
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27340.gifThursday John P.Czar Walters said he came to set the record on the most proposterous outrages. The one man act will be touring the area promoting the war on Americans sick and jail phobic. Unless conflicting with his boss' Invasion of the week playing Nationally. Not since the McArthy/Nixon reefer madness, preceeding Bush/Nixon reefer madness. Tickets on sale where ever Liberty is sold, bartered or given away. 
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27185.gifWalters, chief czar D.E.A.th head sales manager of the Office of National Drug Control Police, said opponents of Walters disinformation feel like a"megaphone of big bucks"is spreading false propaganda on Question 9.
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/33/33982.gif"We have a momentous deception in this ego stage. That's why I came," to save you. I am God. He said during a visit to a WestCare Nevada "Treatment" Center that "treats" teen addicts. Addicted to teens...Fixes em, like Noelle. To avoid prison "treatment" 
Arizona Cannabis Stamp...Stamp Out Cannabis!
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/35/35212.jpg"I'm not here... As a federal official I wag my finger at the people of Nevada."
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/39/39244.gifResidents shouldn't think! There's a benefit if the measure passes, he said, because"no community is better off with more drugs."
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/30/30029.gifhttp://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/29/29799.gif"Don't let the community? Just walk away from this one,"said Walters. 
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27623.gifAdding that Question 9 would just create a bigger demand for drug treatment programs. Forced as an alternative to feeding the Prison Industies. We need prisons filled and we can't do that without bogus laws and with "stupid dispicable ignorant" citizens voting for Question#9, also a third time for cannabis harm reduction! Minding ones own business at home doesn't profit crime sales and service.
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27582.gifWally also visited the state in July to urge a"no"vote on Question 9, saying Nevada shouldn't become the center for drug tourism.
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/38/38666.gifBilly Rogers, head of Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement, the main political group supporting the measure, said there's no evidence the initiative's passage would create more drug addicts.
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27189.gifPot Use No Higher Among California Kids!
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread206.shtmlHe pointed out that the drug czar's own Web site shows the majority of drug addicts in Nevada were treated last year for an amphetamine addiction.
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/38/38846.gif"I think it's about time the drug czar was held accountable to the outright falsehoods he's been putting out there, "Rogers said.
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/38/38847.gifComplete Title: Great Imperial Grand Wizard Drug Biczar
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/39/39850.jpg Peace Love and Liberty or Bizzar D.E.A.th!...DdCD.E.A.th Deceptions
http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/ddc/DEAth.htmlU.S.Al Qaeda!
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/39/39670.gif "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Philipino's and Entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." Harry Anslinger, Commissioner of Narcotics testifying to Congress on why marijuana should be made illegal, 1937.
 
(Marijuana Tax Act, signed August 2 1937; effective Oct.1, 1937)
Why do you think they call it dope?
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Comment #13 posted by JSM on October 11, 2002 at 02:08:14 PT
THE BIG LIE
This issue is not about recreational use of cannabis. It is about the prohibition of hemp. If cannabis is legalized, then there is no reason not to allow industrial hemp to be grown and used. This is the real reason cannabis was made illegal in the first place and it is still the greatest fear of those who have a vested interest in seeing that this environmentally sound alternative to so many products and even energy source remains illegal. Do you really think that Walters and company actually care whether someone use cannabis for either recreational or medical purposes? Of course not, what really matters is their pocket book and hemp is the real threat. If Mechanics Illustrated was saying that hemp could have been a multi million (or did they say billion?) dollar product in the the 30's, what do you think its monetary value would be in terms of today's dollar? This directly threatens todays oil and energy producers as well as the cotton, pharmaceutical, lumber, alcohol industries and corporate farms since this product can be efficiently grown on small family farms across the country. Now does Bush and his comrades really care whether or not someone actually smokes this stuff and laughs for an hour or so? Follow the money trail and the real reason for prohibition becomes clear.
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Comment #12 posted by knox42897 on October 11, 2002 at 00:02:22 PT:
channel 3 story
Leaders Discuss Question 9 
 Email story to a friend October 10, 2002Scott Haws ReportingSo where do you stand on Question 9? This morning, the nation's Drug Czar stopped by our studios to talk about legalizing marijuana. Assemblywoman Chris Giunchigliani was also here --on behalf of the group, 'Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement' which is pushing to legalize pot. Both agree, the stakes are high. Chris Giunchiglianai told us that the feds and the Czar don't even have a right to be here since this is a state issue, not a federal issue. It's a burning question that voters must face on the upcoming ballot. Should the possession of up to 3 ounces of marijuana be legal in Nevada for anyone over the age of 21?The nation's Drug Czar is clear on where he and the Federal government stand. "There is no way legalizing it will cut down on illegal activity and problems with usage."But state Assemblywoman Chris Gianchigliani, who authored the already passed 'Medicinal Marijuana Initiative,' is quick to disagree with Walters and others who are speaking out against Question 9. "This will solve so many problems with distribution and usage among kids, etc." Immediately following their appearances on 'News Three Sunrise,' we were flooded with e-mails on our "Your Voice" section on kvbc.com. Viewers with comments like: How in the world does this lady think we could control the drug dealers? Or, I don't understand the way that those who object to Question 9 somehow must think it will deter marijuana use? Or one viewer who asks, "The mayor to take more of a stand on this issue," Saying if this passes "It will deter a lot of quality, educated families from moving here."So now that it's clear how these two political figures feel, the question remains, where do you stand -- and where will Nevada stand after November 5th?
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on October 10, 2002 at 21:18:54 PT
canaman
You reminded me of something. I think but am not 100 percent sure that John Walters and Ethan Nadelmann will appear on CNN on Sunday but I don't know what time or how to find out more. I'll keep my eyes open. If someone knows please post the information. That would be a big help.
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Comment #10 posted by canaman on October 10, 2002 at 20:33:50 PT
Walters can't debate an honest politician
--Walters also was challenged to a debate by Assemblywoman Chris Giunchigliani, D-Las Vegas, who chairs the statewide steering committee for Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement.
Walters refused, saying he'd debate the financial backers of the initiative such as billionaire Peter Lewis, chairman of Progressive Insurance but not"political consultants.""If the federal drug czar isn't willing to debate a Nevadan in Nevada on Question 9, he ought to go back to Washington, D.C., and quit telling us how to vote,"Giunchigliani said.--This Assemblywoman would have ripped the czar a new one.Assemblywoman Chris Giunchigliani:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/71st/Legislators/Assembly/Giunchigliani.cfmSome background:
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1526/a07.html
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on October 10, 2002 at 20:26:12 PT
karkulus
That's a good idea. I know eco has posted his charts on the political board of -- http://www.cannabis.com -- and maybe if he reads this he might be able to do something. I wouldn't even know where to begin. That is way over my head for sure.
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Comment #8 posted by karkulus on October 10, 2002 at 20:17:11 PT
If one you guys that are good with stats..
could make a Bar Graph of the expendatures of the government VS. the "megaphone of big bucks" of contributions (you know,Like 100 to 1 ratio ) or whatever it is ..even that would be a 25 inch bar to a 1/4 inch bar !!and post it on "overgrow" or some other graphic enabled board ,so we could DL it and pass it around ,that would be great.
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Comment #7 posted by Had Enough on October 10, 2002 at 20:17:00 PT
Good Find
p4me, Thank You. That was a good find it is bookmarked and will be used.
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Comment #6 posted by p4me on October 10, 2002 at 20:16:26 PT
Cannabisnews Alexa Rating
Well, some new people must be reading Cnews because the Alexa rating was another jump of about 4000 in just a week.On 9/11/02 the Alexa rating was 72,394On 10/3 it was 71,262. A few minutes ago it was 67,521.Cannabisnews will make Cannabis Free For Everyone. Be sure and include links of your articles in Letters to the Editor amd introduce Cnews to the journalist of America and let them know there is a group of informed people watching their words. DAD-D,1,2
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Comment #5 posted by Had Enough on October 10, 2002 at 20:10:08 PT
CATO Institute Policy Studies
The Following came from the Cato Institute. http://www.cato.org/current/drug-war/index.html
It’s probably been posted here before, but for those who haven’t seen it, it’s worth the read.For more than a decade, state and federal officials have invoked the language of war in an effort to eradicate the use of those drugs the government has decreed illicit. Since then state and federal governments have spent billions of dollars on drug courts, law enforcement, foreign aid, and treatment and prevention programs. Prisons now teem with drug offenders, and asset forfeiture laws have enabled police to confiscate millions of dollars in property from citizens merely suspected of involvement in drug trafficking. The U.S. prohibition on certain drugs has effected direct repercussions on domestic and foreign policy, criminal justice, public safety, personal liberty, health care and countless other spheres of society. Below you’ll find a wide variety work the Cato Institute has done examining all facets of the war on drugs"Unsavory Bedfellows: Washington's International Partners in the War on Drugs," by Ted Galen Carpenter, Foreign Policy Briefing Paper No. 71, August 1, 2002.http://www.cato.org/pubs/fpbriefs/fpb-071es.html“Prison Blues: How America's Foolish Sentencing Policies Endanger Public Safety," by David B. Kopel, Cato Policy Analysis No. 208, May 17, 1994.http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-208es.html"A Society of Suspects: The War on Drugs and Civil Liberties," by Steven Wisotsky, Cato Policy Analysis No. 180, October 2, 1992.http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-180es.html"Alcohol Prohibition Was a Failure," by Mark Thornton, Cato Policy Analysis No. 157, July 17, 1991.http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157es.html"The Drug War vs. Land Reform in Peru," by Melanie Tammen, Cato Policy Analysis No. 156, July 10, 1991http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-156es.html"Perilous Panacea: The Military in the Drug War," by Ted Galen Carpenter and R. Channing Rouse, Cato Policy Analysis No. 128, February 15, 1990.http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa128es.html"Thinking about Drug Legalization," by James Ostrowski, Cato Policy Analysis No. 121, May 25, 1989.
Executive Summary 
Prohibition is an awful flop.
We like it. 
It can't stop what it's meant to stop. 
We like it. 
It's left a trail of graft and slime, 
It don't prohibit worth a dime, 
It's filled our land with vice and crime. 
Nevertheless, we're for it.
Franklin P. Adams (1931)http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa121es.html
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Comment #4 posted by p4me on October 10, 2002 at 19:33:10 PT
The NORML Hour is on in Oregon
http://www.ornorml.org/The NORML HourOregon NORML is proud to present a new television show, "The NORML Hour," produced by Steven Cooper. It premieres Thursday, October 10, 2002 at 7:00pm on MCTV, Local Cable Access Channel 11.The show will be hosted by Madeline Martinez, Director of Oregon NORML and will have a talk show format with a chance for viewers to call in with questions and comments. Topics of discussion will revolve around the reformation of cannabis and hemp laws in the United States. Madeline’s guests for this exciting first show are Jeff and Tracy, the Oregon couple who have received national recognition for their courageous ad campaign that declares, "We are your good neighbors. We smoke pot."Oregon NORML’s Garden Guy will also appear to give an overview of how he helps medical cannabis patients. Not only does he provide excellent gardening advice, but the Garden Guy also connects patients with caregivers and provides advocacy in every aspect of being a medical cannabis patient.If you would like to call in with questions or comments during the show, please call 503- 491-7434.DAD-D,1,2
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Comment #3 posted by p4me on October 10, 2002 at 19:24:25 PT
Online reference for political races
This is an acclaimed website talking about candidates in states all across the country. The Internet answers the call for voter information at http://www.vote-smart.org/index.phtmlDAD-D,1,2
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Comment #2 posted by Had Enough on October 10, 2002 at 18:52:28 PT
WE THE PEOPLE are being heard
The first 4 paragraphs look like they’re reading the posts on this board and then modifying their salespitch. Since they might be watching maybe it will shame them into doing the right thing.This is history in the making. This is not the time to take anything for granted, keep supporting who and whatever your choice is. The heat is on, and it needs to be turned up.After all these years, and after many attacks by people and groups with bad intentions, our Constitution is still there. Thank God our framers of the constitution were light years ahead of the politicians of today. We are surely indebted to these fine men and equally as well, all those that sacrificed, fought, spilled blood, and died for it. I love my country, always have, and always will. Greedy men with saddened intents, are the ones who try to corrupt and pilfer it, not our country. WE THE PEOPLE are being heard.This is a good civics lesson for most people, especially the future generations. It will show that when they see unjust and outdated regulations forced upon them, they will know that it can be ratified. This will make them proud of their country, and trust the lawmakers, and those that enforce the laws. It will make them feel proud to belong to United States of America, leader and example of the free world.VOTE VOTE VOTE Do not forget our friends at http://www.nrle.org They need money, a lot of it and now. Send them anything. Every bit helps. Nevada is taking a big step for man and a huge gigantic leap for mankind.
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Comment #1 posted by Dankhank on October 10, 2002 at 18:15:25 PT:
Rest of the Story
Walters also was challenged to a debate by Assemblywoman Chris Giunchigliani, D-Las Vegas, who chairs the statewide steering committee for Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement.Walters refused, saying he'd debate the financial backers of the initiative such as billionaire Peter Lewis, chairman of Progressive Insurance _ but not"political consultants.""If the federal drug czar isn't willing to debate a Nevadan in Nevada on Question 9, he ought to go back to Washington, D.C., and quit telling us how to vote,"Giunchigliani said.Walters also mentioned University of Phoenix founder John Sperling as a Question 9 backer, although Rogers said Sperling has not contributed to the campaign. He confirmed that Lewis has.Walters was scheduled to meet with law enforcement in Reno on Friday.The ballot measure would make Nevada the first state to allow adults to possess up to 3 ounces of marijuana. Pot would be sold only in state-licensed and taxed smoke shops, and people couldn't smoke it in public.The measure would have to pass twice _ in November and again in 2004 _ to change the Nevada Constitution. Whether it could ever take effect is unclear since federal law bans marijuana possession, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year that states can't make exceptions for medical use.
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