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Say No Message Focused on Youth Pot Use
Posted by CN Staff on September 29, 2002 at 19:15:29 PT
By Susan J. Landers, AMNews Staff
Source: American Medical News 
Washington -- Several medical groups, including the AMA, joined with Surgeon General Richard Carmona, MD, and drug czar John P. Walters to reinforce the message in a new Bush administration anti-drug campaign that marijuana is a harmful and addictive drug. "For far too long, the message to our nation's young people has been that marijuana is harmless, when research has clearly proven that is not the case," said AMA Immediate Past President Richard F. Corlin, MD. 
"As physicians, we see the effects of marijuana use firsthand, often by children who aren't even in high school yet," said Dr. Corlin at a Sept. 17 press conference to announce the new ad campaign. Marijuana is addictive and can harm the brain, lungs and mental health of young people, stressed Dr. Carmona, who had been on the job as the people's doctor for six weeks. Delivering strong prevention and anti-drug messages were high priorities for the new surgeon general when he was nominated to the post by President Bush earlier this year. "More teens enter drug treatment each year for marijuana than for all the other illicit drugs combined," Dr. Carmona said. As part of the new campaign, an "Open Letter to Parents About Marijuana" was set to appear in about 300 newspapers the day following the press conference. The letter begins with a simple question: "Did you know?" It then goes on to advise parents that marijuana is the most widely used illicit drug among youth today and that it can lead to a range of "significant health, social, learning and behavioral problems at a crucial time in a young person's development." The letter also warns that "kids can get hooked on pot" and urges parents to learn more about marijuana and to talk to their children about the harm it poses. The campaign will include print and broadcast advertising that will run through the fall. "It is time to dispel the myths about marijuana," said Walters. "The facts are compelling, but we must arm parents, teachers, community leaders and our children with the truth," he said. "Outdated and false perceptions about the drug are putting today's kids at risk." Also supporting the campaign are the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Society of Addiction Medicine. Note: The hazards of marijuana use by young people are highlighted in a new ad campaign.Source: American Medical News (US)Author: Susan J. Landers, AMNews StaffPublished: October 7, 2002Copyright: 2002 American Medical AssociationWebsite: http://www.amednews.com/Contact: http://www.ama-assn.org/public/journals/amnews/edlet.htmRelated Articles:Talking Tough On Pot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14272.shtmlWhite House Ad Campaign Goes to Pot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14245.shtmlNew Drug War - ABCNews.com http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14128.shtml 
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Comment #16 posted by The C-I-R-C-L-E on September 30, 2002 at 17:15:17 PT
I couldn't have said it better...
"It is time to dispel the myths about marijuana," "The facts are compelling, but we must arm parents, teachers, community leaders and our children with the truth," he said. "Outdated and false perceptions about the drug are putting today's kids at risk." Right on the money. I'll take him up on that premise, but not in the way he intends.As far as the AMA is concerned, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that only 30% of eligible physicians belong to the AMA. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF LICENSED PHYSICIANS. THEY REPRESENT A MINORITY OF OPINION. Know this when confronted with AMA-speak.And the treatment stats: indeed, we here in CA have seen our drug sentencing reform laws used against us. We passed Prop 36 which sends first time non-violent drug offenders to treatment instead of jail. It's a health issue not a criminal one right? Now all the high prison stats are replaced with high treatment stats: wa-la, the drug warriors get some new stats to play with.Think about it, pot use is everywhere and easy to find. Lots of easy busts equals lots of treatment equals easy "addiction stats." We've been caught with our rehab gowns down...
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Comment #15 posted by krutch on September 30, 2002 at 13:11:35 PT:
Thanks Doc
I knew there was some kind of lying going on there.
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Comment #14 posted by Ethan Russo MD on September 30, 2002 at 11:08:21 PT:
Krutch
The numbers claimed for treatment of "marijuana dependency" are an artifact. The claimed numbers are due to the fact that many users of cannabis who are arrested are forced into treatment, whether they medically need it or not. The industry keeps on rolling, though.
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Comment #13 posted by krutch on September 30, 2002 at 11:02:47 PT:
Nobody Ever Said it was Harmless
I never heard anybody say that MJ is harmless. Just that it is less harmful than already legal recreational drugs. Nothing is harmless. breathing is not harmless, Eating is not harmless, and driving is certainly not harmless. If these people want to be free of harm they should commit suicide. Nothing can harm a dead person.Also where does this come from?:"More teens enter drug treatment each year for marijuana than for all the other illicit drugs combined"I have never in my life heard of a person who only smoked MJ ending up in drug treatment. How do they get this number. Does anybody know?
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Comment #12 posted by druid on September 30, 2002 at 08:24:09 PT:
blah
blah blah freaking blah.
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Comment #11 posted by Windminstrel on September 30, 2002 at 08:07:16 PT
this is fun to watch
They just keep kicking against the goads. 
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Comment #10 posted by malleus on September 30, 2002 at 05:50:58 PT
Every word a Freudian slip
When you look at Walter's comments, it seems that he is totally oblivious to the fact that everyone in America who has ever tried cannabis knows that he's lying. And that's 80 million Americans who know the truth.If this could only get to court, as it is up in Canada, then the truth can be brought out with very little in the way of government interference. Demands for proof of these fraudulent claims would be faced with lies. And the lies could be ripped to shreds. Publicly. And if this happens in a politically important state like California, then the prohibs would face a cascade effect as other states follow suit.Keep lying, "Doctor" Walters. You'll make this last scenario inevitable.
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Comment #9 posted by lookinside on September 30, 2002 at 05:44:52 PT
Hamburgers?
DANA:Now wait a doggone minute! What do I put my home grown tomatoes and onions on if hamburgers become schedule one? Concerning the AMA: We know that this organization no longer represents the feelings of most doctors. It's a political machine to support the Drug Companies and the government. 
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Comment #8 posted by DANA on September 30, 2002 at 01:59:35 PT
Hard act to follow...
..too many superb comments....JR Bob Dobbs asks about the "budget" for these things.....I have tried to research this ,by going to various ".gov" websites,,and it is virtually impossible to decipher all the various figures,and arrive at any figures....If you want to find out what I mean,just go to the Thomas website,and look at the budgets,and appropriations,,etc..You will see that it is a quagmire of obscured,,once removed ,projections and allocations that are distributed throughout numerous "departments",and there is NO ONE,,who can arrive at a verifiable figure,that accuratly reflects where the money goes,,and how much of it goes there!...AND,,I believe this is no accident...Even the GAO,(General Accounting Office),has no luck in getting information on these matters!..HAMBURGERS!....Crack of the new world order!..It's time to bust the obese!..How dare these epicurian scofflaws gorge on food to the point of being overweight!..There is no medically proven use for hamburgers!..they should be "Schedule1"..!!!
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Comment #7 posted by Elfman_420 on September 30, 2002 at 00:46:08 PT
would you prefer crack?
 "More teens enter drug treatment each year for marijuana than for all the other illicit drugs combined," Dr. Carmona said. Good thing most kids enter for the least harmful illegal substance, I say.
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Comment #6 posted by BGreen on September 29, 2002 at 23:19:04 PT
Should We Imprison The Obese?
"Overweight and physical inactivity account for more than 300,000 premature deaths each year in the United States, second only to tobacco-related deaths. Obesity is an epidemic and should be taken as seriously as any infectious disease epidemic," says Jeffrey P. Koplan, director of the CDC, and one of the authors of the JAMA article. "Obesity and overweight are linked to the nation's number one killer – heart disease – as well as diabetes and other chronic conditions."***************************************************************We need to demand equality and a level playing field. If alcohol companies can reduce drunk driving criticism by pushing the "designated driver" then we should use the same argument. If we're going to incarcerate people for unhealthy activities then we'd better lock up every single human being.What kind of unethical hack of a doctor would ever condone caging a human because they participate in a risky activity? How about sky diving? Race car driving? Driving without your seat belt? Where's it going to end?***************************************************************"I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice." - Hippocrates, the father of medicine.
Obesity Epidemic Increases Dramatically in the United States
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Comment #5 posted by observer on September 29, 2002 at 22:50:18 PT
Government propagandists
 "For far too long, the message to our nation's young people has been that marijuana is harmless, when research has clearly proven that is not the case," said AMA Immediate Past President Richard F. Corlin, MD. "...in it's natural form, marijuana is the safest therapeutically active substance known to man." 
-- DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young 1989 Marijuana is addictive... see: Relative Addictiveness of Drugs 
http://www.tfy.drugsense.org/tfy/addictvn.htm The Relative Addictiveness of Drugs According to NIDA's Own Researcher
http://www.marijuananews.com/relative_addictiveness_of_drugs_.htmetc. ...and can harm the brain, lungs and mental health "There is no conclusive evidence that marijuana causes cancer in humans, including cancers usually related to tobacco use. ... " [p. 119, US Gov IOM Report, http://www.mpp.org/science.html]"Earlier studies purporting to show structural changes in the brains of heavy marijuana users have not been replicated with more sophisticated techniques." [IOM Report, p. 106] "Outdated and false perceptions about the drug are putting today's kids at risk." This tact was dealt with nicely by Richard Cowan:
"We frequently hear prohibitionist propagandists ... say that the "latest research" proves that "marijuana isn't harmless, like everyone has been saying." 
see: http://www.marijuananews.com/cowan/is_marijuana_really_harmless.htm
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Comment #4 posted by DdC on September 29, 2002 at 21:05:43 PT
Say No Message Focused on Fascist Profits!
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all. --Thomas Jefferson"All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it." 
Just Say No! Institute of Medicine ReportThe White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, which ordered and financed the two-year study after voters in California and Arizona endorsed medicinal use of marijuana in 1996 referendums, has had little comment on the report beyond endorsing its call for further research, saying science alone should determine what is safe and effective medicine.In addressing issues like whether marijuana was a gateway to the use of harder drugs (the researchers found no convincing evidence that it was), the report used language calculated not to overstep the bounds of scientific inquiry into the arena of political argument. But the very nature of the report was contrary to the government's usual inclination against acknowledging any merit at all in marijuana use.As a result, they said, marijuana should be smoked only by patients in whom long-term effects are not of great concern, like the terminally ill, and even then under tight control. Nonetheless, they said, marijuana's active ingredients appear to be effective for treating pain, nausea and the severe weight loss associated with AIDS.The government's longtime position -- that marijuana is a dangerous drug that cannot be tolerated any more than cocaine or heroin -- has not been helped by the fact that as many as 60 million Americans, including President Clinton, have tried it, most with no significant aftereffect. Further, the government's policy has been predicated on the assumption that smoking marijuana can lead nowhere but to the abuse of harder drugs, an outlook that the authors contradicted.OK: Series:Part 1b - Facts On Addiction
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1782/a01.htmlSome believe addiction is a disease, while others view it as a "moral weakness." Separating "fact" from "fiction" can be time-consuming, so here are the facts, provided by the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services: * Addiction is a disease, not a "moral" issue. Like many chronic and progressive diseases, addiction has recognized symptoms, and is influenced by both genetic and environmental factors. * Unlike social drinkers, addicts/alcoholics are unable to stop drinking or using on their own. The defining characteristic of addiction is a compulsion to continue drinking or using despite adverse consequences ( such as loss of a job ). Quitting, for these people, is not a matter of willpower. * People who begin drinking before age 15 are four times more likely to develop alcoholism than those who begin at age 21. * Approximately 73 percent of all illegal drug users in the United States are employed. * Alcohol, not methamphetamine, is Oklahoma's most abused drug. Oklahomans need treatment for alcohol at a rate 7.5 times greater than that for other drugs. * Substance abuse is a major public health problem, contributing to 85 percent of all homicides, 80 percent of all prison incarcerations, 75 percent of all divorces, 65 percent of all child abuse cases, 55 percent of domestic assaults and half of all traffic fatalities and accidental deaths"Tobacco A More Dangerous Drug Than Marijuana, But It’s Still Legal" -- Colorado Physician 
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v98/n252/a07.html?2064Exporting Tobacco Addiction From The Usa
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v98/n554/a02.html?2110Media Enlist in Government Marijuana Crusade 
http://www.fair.org/extra/9707/marijuana.html
Summary: As America's officially ignored death toll from overdoses of heroin, cocaine, prescription drugs and alcohol mixed with dope took another huge jump, America's media raged with the threat to the republic posed by sick people smoking marijuana to relieve pain. The USA Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy 1987
"Cannabis can be used on an episodic but continual basis without evidence of social or psychic dysfunction. In many users the term dependence with its obvious connotations, probably is mis-applied... The chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not toxicologic, foundation". "Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."
From Benito Mussolini contributing to the "London Sunday Express," December 8, 1935"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." 
Harry Anslinger, U.S. Commissioner of Narcotics, testifying to Congress on why marijuana should be made illegal,1937.
(Marijuana Tax Act, signed Aug. 2, 1937; effective Oct. 1, 1937.) "The masses have little time to think. And how incredible is the willingness of modern man to believe."American Academy of Pediatrics Guidelines for Treating Behavioral Disorders in Children with Ritalin Ignores Evidence of Cancer Risks
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=295.topic"Another weapon I discovered early was the power of the printed word to sway souls to me. The newspaper was soon my gun, my flag - a thing with a soul that could mirror my own."
Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini together in the heyday of 1930s fascism.Bush. Religious drug treatment in Texas
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionprohibitionistwodjunkies.showMessage?topicID=13.topicThe Shafer Commission of 1970
Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug" "A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth that is what I am after... I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men."
Adolf Hitler quoted by John Gunther "The Nation"The Assassins of Youth DARE the FRCn PDFA
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=105.topicIndian Hemp Drugs Commission, 1894: 
"The commission has come to the conclusion that the moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all. ... ...moderate use of hemp... appears to cause no appreciable physical injury of any kind,... no injurious effects on the mind... [and] no moral injury whatever." LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944 
"Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug." 1968 UK ROYAL COMMISSION, THE WOOTTON REPORT: 
"Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor's Committee (1944 - LaGuardia)that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects" "the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable" The Report of the Australian Government 1996 says: "The ... major possible adverse effects of chronic, heavy cannabis use ... remain to be confirmed" "The major health and psychological effects of chronic cannabis use, especially daily use over many years, remain uncertain" 
"As has been stressed ... there is uncertainty. ......To varying degrees....inferences from animal research, laboratory studies, and clinical observations about probable ill effects. In some cases inferences depend upon arguments from what is known about the adverse effects of other drugs, such as tobacco and alcohol" "... "flashback experiences" ...have been rarely reported by cannabis users... have typically used other hallucinogenic drugs" "The probable and possible adverse health and psychological effects of cannabis need to be placed in comparative perspective to be fully appreciated". Crancer Study, Washington Department of Motor Vehicles 
 "Simulated driving scores for subjects experiencing a normal social "high" and the same subjects under control conditions are not significantly different. However, there are significantly more errors for alcohol intoxicated than for control subjects" GATEWAY THEORY 
The LaGardia sub-committee of New York 1944 
"The use of marijuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction and no effort is made to create a market for these narcotics by stimulating the practice of marijuana smoking" Dr. Andrew Weil (Rubin & Comitas Ganja in Jamaica, 1975) 
"a-motivation [is] a cause of heavy marijuana smoking rather than the reverse" 
              
GATEWAY THEORY 
The LaGardia sub-committee of New York 1944 
"The use of marijuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction and no effort is made to create a market for these narcotics by stimulating the practice of marijuana smoking" "Marijuana: Facts for Teens." U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. 
Washington, D.C. 1995, p.10. 
"Most marijuana users do not go on to use other drugs." U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety 
Administration (DOT HS 808 078), Final Report, November 1993: 
"THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small" Professor Olaf Drummer, a forensic scientist the Royal College of Surgeons in Melbourne in 1996 
":Compared to alcohol, which makers people take more risks on the road, marijuana made drivers slow down and drive more carefully.... Cannabis is good for driving skills, as people tend to overcompensate for a perceived impairment." Dr. Anthony Henman: 
"One of the best effects Marijuana can have in any terminal illness is to produce a degree of euphoria which boosts morale in a depressing situation" The Economist March 28th 1992: 
"Medicines often produce side effects. Sometimes they are physically unpleasant. Cannabis too has discomforting side effects, but these are not physical they are political" Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA: 
"Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia" Dr. James Malone-Lee, consultant St. Pancras Hospital, London: 
"I'm quite impressed by what's happened to (MS) patients who have used it". Mary Lynn Mathre is a substance abuse consultant to the University of Virginia's Health Sciences Center, the President of Patients Out of Time, a managing director of I-CARE, and the Secretary of the National Nurses Society on Addictions. She has been the initiator of therapeutic Cannabis resolutions adopted by the Virginia Nurses Society, the National Nurses Society on Addictions, the American Public Health Association and other organizations that demand immediate patient access to therapeutic Cannabis with guidance by healthcare providers. She was a contributor to one of the American Journal of Nursing's Book of the Year Awards for Community Health Nursing (by Stanhope and Lancaster). She is a member of the editorial board of the Journal of Addictions Nursing, the author of numerous journal and media articles and has spoken to many national and local groups on the value and efficacy of therapeutic Cannabis. A 228 page sewn softcover, Cannabis in Medical Practice contains references, photos, charts, tables, appendices that include lists of organizations, hemp stores and wholesale sources, and an index. Please contact McFarland & Co.,Inc., Publishers, Box 611, Jefferson, NC 28640. To order please call 1-800-253-2187 or Fax 910-246-5018. Individual copies of Cannabis in Medical Practice are available from I-CARE, 1472 Fish Pond Rd., Howardsville, VA 24562 for $25 including postage, call 804-263-4484 or order from AMAZON.COM on the Internet.Schedule I. -
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.(2) Schedule II. -
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.(3) Schedule III. -
(A) The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.(4) Schedule IV. -
(A) The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.
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Comment #3 posted by DdC on September 29, 2002 at 20:59:25 PT
Newt Gingrich's Support for Medical Marijuana
Newt Gingrich's Support for Medical MarijuanaThe following letter by Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga, now Speaker of the House) in support of medical access to
marijuana originally appeared in the March 19, 1982 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). To the Editor, The American Medical Association's Council on Scientific Affairs should be commended for its report, "Marijuana: Its Health Hazards and Therapeutic Potential" (1981;246:1823). Not only does the report outline evidence of marijuana's potential harms, but it distinguishes this concern from the legitimate issue of marijuana's important medical benefits. All too often the hysteria that attends public debate over marijuana's social abuse compromises a clear appreciation for this critical distinction. Since 1978, 32 states have abandoned the federal prohibition to recognize legislatively marijuana's important
 medical properties. Federal law, however, continues to define marijuana as a drug "with no accepted medical use,"
and federal agencies continue to prohibit physician-patient access to marijuana. This outdated federal prohibition
 is corrupting the intent of the state laws and depriving thousands of glaucoma and cancer patients of the medical care promised them by their state legislatures. On September 16, 1981, Representatives Stewart McKinney and I introduced legislation designed to end bureaucratic interference in the use of marijuana as a medicant. We believe licensed physicians are competent to enploy marijuana, and patients have a right to obtain marijuana
 legally, under medical supervision, from a regulated source. The medical prohibition does not prevent seriously ill patients from employing marijuana; it simply deprives them of medical supervision and denies them access to a regulated medical substance. Physicians are often forced to choose between their ethical responsibilities to the patient and their legal liabilities to federal bureaucrats. Representative McKinney and I hope the Council will take a close and careful look at this issue. Federal policies do
 not reflect a factual or balanced assessment of marijuana's use as a medicant. The Council, by thoroughly investigating the available materials, might well discover that its own assessment of marijuana's therapeutic value has, in the past, been more than slightly shaded by federal policies
that are less than neutral.Newt Gingrich
House of Representatives
Washington, DC
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Comment #2 posted by SWAMPIE on September 29, 2002 at 20:21:59 PT
"It's time to dispel the myths about marijuana.&qu
 said Walters,"The facts are compelling,but we must arm parents,teachers,community leader and our children with the truth"he said."Outdated and false perceptions about the drug are putting todays kids at risk"
 Are the FACTS really so COMPELLING that YOU and YOUR ILK must put peaceful peoople in JAIL?What is the "TRUTH"? The "TRUTH" is that if "PROHIBITION OF CANNABIS" was ILLEGAL,then YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A JOB!!!!!!If you spent MY MONEY that I paid to in the form of TAXES to help the PARENTS learn how to properly raise kids not to try CANNABIS until they are old enough to understand it,then PROHIBITION wouldn't be needed,as if it EVER was!ALL of you "SELECTED"beaurocrats need your heads examined,and I hope it is not done by your "Koff-Koff-Surgeon-General-Proctologist",because what was just quoted from this article had to come out of your ASS!!!!Keep on with the truth,you will surely get rid of the myths soon,and then prohibition will be a thing of the past,and you will be out of your cushy job and on the way to being Sued!!!!Maybe you can sell the latex gloves on E-Bay,You'll need the money! SWAMPIE
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Comment #1 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on September 29, 2002 at 19:50:19 PT
Budget?
What is the budget for the ONDCP's season of lies? Running a full-page ad in 300 papers has got to be expensive, and they've done that a few times this month. Are they paying full price, or did they give themselves another twofer? And how can I, as a taxpayer, demand my money back?
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