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Withdraw From This War
Posted by CN Staff on September 22, 2002 at 13:27:29 PT
By Froma Harrop
Source: Creators Syndicate
The Bush administration seems to have gotten its war all right -- only it's on California. The natives are in full revolt over marijuana, inhaling for all to see, especially U.S. Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft. They say his raids on California marijuana clubs will not stop them.The first skirmish took place in Santa Cruz, the university beach town known for open-mindedness (within politically correct boundaries). In bold defiance of federal policy, Mayor Christopher Krohn stood before City Hall and directed a distribution of medical marijuana to allegedly ill citizens.
People smoked pot on the lawn. (Cigarette smokers were steered to the sidewalk.) The unrest has since spread to other California cities.Although nine states have approved the use of medical marijuana, Ashcroft has concentrated the weight of the anti-drug bureaucracy on California. His agents have busted marijuana clubs in West Hollywood, Oakland, San Francisco, Sebastopol and, most recently, Santa Cruz. California Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer characterized the raids as "punitive expeditions."Some of you might think that federal law enforcement would have its hands full chasing down terrorists bent on mass destruction. Stoned Californians could wait for another day. Well, Ashcroft says he's on to both. He is perfectly capable of flicking on the orange terrorism alert, then sending federal agents to weed out marijuana plants in hostile California territory.Perhaps the two wars could be combined. For example, Ashcroft could work up a profiling system for pot users. Was the passport issued in Austin, Madison or Portland? How about background checks for schools attended, subjects studied, libertarian leanings?Certain states of origin should raise red flags. California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Alaska, Nevada, Maine and Hawaii have all approved medical use of marijuana. Their residents might harbor the subversive view that states may make their own drug laws. And they may not appreciate that the Office of National Drug Control Policy spends $11 billion a year on marijuana prohibition. That kind of budget must be defended.As in most conflicts, no side is without fault. Yes, in a rational world, the Justice Department would transfer its passion for eradicating marijuana to finding anthrax. But it would also be nice, for reasons of elevating the discussion, if the pot advocates would diversify their interests. Marijuana is not exactly the staff of life, and some honesty in discussing its legal status would be much appreciated.There's much righteous talk about medical marijuana -- patients' urgent need to ease their discomforts with pot. The medical issue is just a wedge for letting anyone smoke pot for any reason. That's fine with me, but let's just say it and dispense with the dramatics. "I have to have marijuana to stay alive," a 35-year-old American, sitting in a café in Vancouver, British Columbia, tells a reporter. He asserts that pot alleviates pain from spinal injuries suffered in an Army parachuting accident. Surely his doctors have a pill that would do the same job, but he has applied for asylum in Canada.Pot-smoking Americans who move to Canada often portray themselves as political refugees. Some compare their plight to slaves escaping to freedom via the Underground Railroad. Not quite. Many are fleeing drug charges in the United States.Steve Kubby, Libertarian Party candidate for California governor in 1998, counts himself among the persecuted. He says he suffers from adrenal cancer and asserts: "If I don't smoke pot, my blood pressure goes through the roof and would either burst a blood vessel or cause a heart attack."Canada, by the way, has not fully legalized marijuana, though a committee in the Canadian senate has recommended that course of action. The government has sensibly decided not to spend precious resources going after pot smokers who aren't bothering anyone.On this side of the border, meanwhile, citizens still chip away at punitive marijuana laws. Nevadans will vote this November on letting adults possess up to three ounces of marijuana, whether they are sick or not. They just wouldn't be allowed to smoke in public or drive under the influence of pot. Voters in Ohio, Michigan and Arizona will consider proposals to ease penalties for possession of marijuana.No one here is calling marijuana a wonder drug. But the weed doesn't seem so awful that we have to arrest 700,000 Americans a year on pot charges. America's law-enforcement personnel have other battles to fight. Let's bring the boys home from California.Froma Harrop is a Journal editorial writer and syndicated columnist.Source: Creators Syndicate Author: Froma HarropPublished: September 20, 2002 Syndicated By Creator Syndicate Inc.Contact: info creators.com Website: http://www.creators.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:WAMMhttp://www.wamm.org/Pictures From WAMM Protesthttp://freedomtoexhale.com/eventpics.htmThe Thrashing of a Dying Dinosaur's Tail http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14202.shtmlWhy I'm Fighting Federal Drug Laws From City Hallhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14195.shtmlMedicinal Pot Issue is About The Sick, Dyinghttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14193.shtml
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Comment #45 posted by MDG on September 23, 2002 at 18:03:37 PT
Dankhank...
There isn't anything on the local news stations at the moment about any raid, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are going to be. Call and see if they answer. They were probably just busy and didn't get to the phone when I called. I just don't feel like giving myself another panic attack.
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Comment #44 posted by Dankhank on September 23, 2002 at 10:57:39 PT
what's happening?
was there another DEA raid yesterday?Inquiring minds wanta know ...
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Comment #43 posted by DdC on September 23, 2002 at 10:21:14 PT
Thanks GCW...Interesting
Bookmarked. I've read that the early Christians hanging out in temples near the hashish incense were finding God without the priests and pissing off the pope. So the Catholics banned it. They also sold the wine and eliminated some competition in the process. The hashish incense was discovered by Archiologist, not Theryologist. Meaning Moses and Jesus either breathed it or all pulled Klintoons and didn't inhale. For hours at a time. The fascist symbol, the facea? Started in ancient Rome and was on Nixon's Presidential flag. The Romans and Church or the Bushits and the Khristian Koalition Klans...same shit different day!Peace, Love and Liberty or the Fascist D.E.A.th...DdCProhibition and the Bible
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htmVisions of a Sacred Tree
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/fall95/split.htmlCannabis in the Old Testament
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/mayjune96/kanehbosm.htmlThe Scythians High Plains Drifters http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/jul95/scythians.htmlWhen Smoke Gets in My I
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/apr95/smoke_in_my_i.htmlCannabis and the Bible Coptics
http://www.flashback.se/archive/mj-bible.txtThe Scythians High Plains Drifters
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/jul95/scythians.htmlCannabis and the Christ
http://www.cannabisculture.com/magazine/cc11/christ.htmlThe War on Drugs is Un-Christian
http://www.olywa.net/when/articles/christian/index.htm Evil Lurking
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/36/36620.gifThe Anti-Pat Robertson/Christian Coalition Site
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/patrobertson.htmlPat&Jer's Brand New Testament
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/34/34819.gif
Strangest Dream
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Comment #42 posted by The GCW on September 23, 2002 at 04:27:48 PT
Ddc = #21; Where's the Crime FoM?
Your link... http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27571.gif - is interesting.This one below is along the same lines... but explains how this situation has evolved. Because what Your link explains is real and is occuring, but to understand where and how it originated is helpful.The prohbition of cannabis is much older than 1930s... etc. This should be understood by people that are helping end this farce... to know how it is connected...Shamanism and the Drug Propaganda: Idolatry http://www.drugwar.com/idolatry.shtm
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Comment #41 posted by DdC on September 23, 2002 at 02:07:57 PT
We Will Not Forget,Nor Will We Stop! SACRAMENTO!!!
"There is a point at which the law becomes immoral and unethical. That point is reached when it becomes a cloak for the cowardice that dares not stand up against blatant violations of justice. A state that supresses all freedom of speech, and which by imposing the most terrible punishments, treats each and every attempt at criticism, however morally justified, and every suggestion for improvement as plotting to high treason, is a state that breaks an unwritten law."- Kurt Huber [The head of White Rose], killed by the Nazis in 1943. Incarceration Nation
http://www.hightimes.com/News/2001_03/jail.tplWhich western country never fully abolished slavery?
SLAVERY IS STILL LEGAL in the USA. Contrary to what we may learn in school, the American Civil War did not see the complete abolition of slavery in 1865. The 13th Amendment to their constitution reads "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime..."The US is the world's leading jailer. Prisons, like consumerism and suburban sprawl, have emerged as defining features of the American cultural landscape.Todd Patrick McCormick
Crime> Cancer Treatment
Inmate #11071-112
F.C.I.
P.O. Box 3007
Terminal Island, Ca. 90731AMERICAN WOMAN FIGHTS EXTRADITION
The Americans want her back. According to police affidavits, the strongest evidence against her is that she was seen watering a plant.If convicted, Renee Boje faces a mandatory minimum jail sentence of 10 years. In Canada, her lawyers say, she would probably be fined.Justice in Florida--Joe Tacl's TrialFlorida is in the heat of a terrible battle. We now have our own drug czar and our very own Partnership for a Drug Free Florida. Meanwhile the patients keep being arrested.Ed Forchion's/Legalize Marijuana Party
NJ Historic Jury Nullification Trial
State of New Jersey -vs- Forchion (3596-10-98) Joe King
http://struggle.ws/wsm_crime.htmlSlave Labor Means Big Bucks For U.S. Corporations
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=233.topic
John Sinclair Marijuana Revolution
http://www.luminist.org/Archives/marijuana.htmJuror Dismissed “For Handing Out Constitutional Propaganda”
http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/suprynowicz/042301.htm2 Million Americans behind bars/ 60% supplying slave labor as non violent drug offenders.
Chemical warfare from US tobacco to US farmlands to WoD bombing of Colombian babies. $20 billion spent is $20 billion earned and taxed not counting the fringe bennies and by-products of WoD. Wasted American families from D.E.A.th goons while jerking Chinese made Iraqi crude plastic symbols of Freedom? The Whole World is Watching...Korporate Khemical Klans in the Untied State of Anemica
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionstuff.showMessage?topicID=24.topicPeace, Love and Liberty or the Merchants of D.E.A.th...DdCSometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself, as a criminal. -- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law"
Judge Harlan Stone says it is our duty to NOT obey bad law.
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Comment #40 posted by DdC on September 23, 2002 at 01:07:16 PT
The first skirmish took place in Santa Cruz?
VANDALIA, Mich. (AP) - The Justice Department will investigate the fatal shootings of two men by authorities during a five-day standoff at a campground for marijuana advocates.An FBI agent shot Rainbow Farm owner Tom Crosslin 8 times in the head on Monday after 100 authorities say he pointed a gun at the agent, one of a number of law-enforcement officers surrounding the campground.Police said Crosslin's roommate, Rolland Rohm, was shot Tuesday as he left a burning building on the property and aimed a gun at a state police officer. Authorities have not said who fired the fatal shot at Rohm. The federal review is focusing on a second shot allegedly fired at Crosslin by an FBI special agent, said Mark Courtade, head of the criminal division of the U.S attorney's office in Grand Rapids. The agent was questioned by FBI officials, The Detroit News reported Wednesday.Peter McWilliams: 1950 – 2000"As a result, his AIDS viral load, which had been "undetectable," soared to dangerous levels. Peter was also very fragile psychologically. Aggravated by his health and legal problems, he often suffered from debilitating bouts of depression. Certainly, he was badly damaged by being in federal detention, and he knew from that experience that he could not survive very long if he were sent to prison.Peter McWilliam's Memorial Page
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/Peterm.htm The Murder of Peter McWilliams
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=293.topicRainbow Farm Massacre
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=292.topicJames Geddes-4790 YEARS-5 PLANTS!Release Petition
http://hr95.org/geddes.petition.htmFree James Geddes
http://hr95.org/Geddes,J.htmlThe story of Will Foster 93 years for medicinal cannabis
http://www.gnv.fdt.net/~jrdawson/willfoster.htmWhite Plume Hemp Crop Destroyed Again
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=290.topicL.A. Forfeiture Squads Kill California Millionaire
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=29.topicU.S. vs Boyll Native American Church
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionstuff.showMessage?topicID=76.topicWomen and Prisons: Unequal Justice
http://www.startribune.com/stonline/html/special/prison/Pot Grower, 75, Given Year in Jail
http://www.jsonline.com/news/ozwash/jun01/pot27062601a.aspUS Prosecutes Cancer Patient Over Marijuana
http://www.ariannaonline.com/discus/messages/4/248.html?SaturdayNovember2520000344pmGrandmother Escapes Jail
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionffffhyperlinked.showMessage?topicID=6.topicHow FIJA Saved My Life!
http://serendipity.magnet.ch/jsmill/fija1293.htmErowid Freedom Vault : Jury Nullification
http://www.erowid.org/freedom/jury_nullification/jury_nullification.shtmlPREJUDICE: MARIJUANA AND JIM CROW LAWS
http://www.jackherer.com/book/ch13.htmlNovember Coalition
http://www.november.orgHuman Rights and the WoD
http://www.hr95.orgThe real price of prsons
http://www.motherjones.com/prisons/Free the Prisoners of WoD
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/37/37460.gifI LOST MY FREEDOM Linx
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionlinx.showMessage?topicID=22.topicThe War on Drugs is benefiting the U.S. government and business and hurting democracy at home and abroad, said Al Giordano, a former political reporter for the Boston Phoenix and editor of the Narco News Bulletin.NarcoNews
http://www.narconews.com/
Dry Your Eyes
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Comment #39 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 22:59:14 PT
FoM
It makes more than sense. IT' TRUTH, the way I see it. I'm glad I was able to give you lift. We all need it from time to time
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 22:42:32 PT
Had Enough
That was a very encouraging and uplifting post. A very good one to end the day. In life we can have many things taken away from us including our freedom and that we know all too well but there's one thing that no man can take from another. That is our spirit. Only we as an individual can give it up. I hope this makes sense.
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Comment #37 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 22:24:03 PT
Dont give up the fight
Reading from post #35 & 36 tells me that the spark or more like a large flame, or should we say burning desire is still there. This is the Sprit I like to think of as the American Spirit. Yes WE THE PEOPLE will prevail. Thank God our framers of the Constitution were light years beyond today’s politicians. After more than 200 years its still there. Politicians religious groups and big business has tried picking it to pieces with some success but it is still there after all this time. The framed it in such a way they knew it would be attacked by people with bad intentions. A tough battle still lies ahead, but that is when we do our best. Americans love the underdog and will back them all the way once the truth is knownAt the very least excersise your rights, privileges and responsibilities, and VOTE VOTE VOTE.Do not forget our friends at http://www.nrle.org They need money, a lot of it and now. Send them anything. Every bit helps. We are standing on the cornerstone of change that will be heard around the world again, WE THE PEOPLE.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 21:52:50 PT
Dr Ganj
I will keep the faith and we will prevail. We've come to far to turn back now. I have been deeply affected by what happened and something way down inside says no more. No more. They must understand. If they don't then our future will be very bleak. I don't mean just concerning Cannabis. I mean our future as a free society. God Bless! and hold your head high tomorrow and be proud because I'm sure proud of all of you!
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Comment #35 posted by Dr Ganj on September 22, 2002 at 21:43:05 PT
FOM
Thanks FOM! I'll be sure to post as soon as I return.We've GOT to stop this madness! What is wrong with these thugs? Don't they have families that need herbal medicine?
Can't they see people in wheelchairs pose no threat?
Surely there must be a methlab to dismantle instead of chopping down pretty green plants with fragrant flowers? God how I pray the voters of Nevada say YES to Question 9.
God how I live long enough to see this wonderful plant legal.....All the best to you Martha.....Keep the faith, we will prevail.
http://safeaccessnow.org
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 21:32:14 PT
Dr Ganj
I wish I could be with you all but I will keep my eyes on news and post any that I find right away. Have a great and productive day. It time for freedom now!
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Comment #33 posted by afterburner on September 22, 2002 at 21:31:48 PT:
DdC: music, jazz, and the DEA
A few years ago the Jackson family staged a retrospective family event celebrating their years in the music business. Some might question Michael's lifestyle, but he has made some kickin' music over the years. His sister Janet said something I've wondered about for years. She indicated that the family was being persecuted, and she said, "We know who they are." Listening to Dan Ackroyd's soliloquy as Joliette Jake in "Blues Brothers 2000" about the hijacking of the music business from rhythm and blues (much too long to quote here, but watch the video if you haven't seen and heard it), the pieces started to fall into place.When I read some excerpts from "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" about Carlton Turner ("Turner quoted 'The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire' to show how jazz (rock) singers are eroding the America 'he' loves with this hallucinogenic drug marijuana! Which he meant to stamp
out."), and Harry Anslinger's racist attack on Jazz ("There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."), everything clicked and I knew exactly what Janet Jackson meant.
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Comment #32 posted by Dr Ganj on September 22, 2002 at 21:20:22 PT
Rally in Sacramento 9-23-02
Okay folks, it's time to make a stand against tyranny tomorrow! We must be loud and clear that we won't take this abuse of power any longer.
It is absolutely diabolical what these brutes are doing to the people of California. What we are witnessing are desperate tactics by the DEA. All of us in the medical marijuana community knew these heartless thugs would try to close more clubs in the Bay Area, but to raid WAMM in Santa Cruz demonstrates how truly cruel they are.
Now that the nation sees what the DEA has done, I feel we are on the verge of major change. We are outraged, and this will cause more city officials like the mayor of Santa Cruz to stand up for the sick people who clearly benefit from medical cannabis.
Please, if you can tomorrow, join me and the thousands to protest against the DEA's total misuse of power. We must do this, or we stand to lose more than we can afford.Be strong, be heard, be loud.Dr. Ganj
http://safeaccessnow.org
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Comment #31 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 21:03:16 PT
The message is from a long line of messages...
Buchannon says booze is the American Way...More profits in booze. car wrecks, fights, ER visits, jail time, fines, dementia treatment, home health care, liver damage...Drug Deaths Per YearTobacco+.........................435,175Alcohol*.........................100.000Secondhand smoke**.................3,800Overdoses illegal hard drugs*......3,600
Overdoses legal drugs*............21,000
Cocaine/crack overdoses*...........1,969
Heroin overdoses*..................1,046Aspirin overdoses*.................1,000
Marijuana overdoses*...................0
Sources; + Federal Center for Disease Control, 1990.
*US Public Health Service
**Environmental Protection Agency 1990.Delinquencies due to marijuana smoking which result in trial by military court are negligible in number when compared with delinquencies resulting from the use of alcohol drinks, which is also classed as a stimulant and intoxicant(Geller and Boas, 1969: 147).Cannabis prevents brain damage
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=24.topicCannabis less harmful than cigarettes or booze
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=32.topicCannabis safer than aspirin.(Which kills 1100 a year)
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=174.topic"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." Media Enlist in Government Marijuana Crusade
http://www.fair.org/extra/9707/marijuana.html
As America's officially ignored death toll from overdoses of heroin, cocaine, prescription drugs and alcohol mixed with dope took another huge jump, America's media raged with the threat to the republic posed by sick people smoking marijuana to relieve pain. Harry Anslinger, U.S. Commissioner of Narcotics, testifying to Congress on why marijuana should be made illegal, 1937.
(Marijuana Tax Act, signed Aug. 2, 1937; effective Oct. 1,
1937.) David Hadorn Writes: Beyond A Reasonable Doubt Cannabis Is Substantially Less Harmful Than Alcohol Or Tobacco.
http://www.marijuananews.com/david_hadorn_writes.htmIntroduction (in italics) by David SolomonThe popular and therapeutic uses of hemp preparations are not categorically prohibited by the provisions of the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. The apparent purpose of the Act is to levy a token tax of approximately one dollar on all buyers, sellers, importers, growers, physicians, veterinarians, and any other persons who deal in marijuana commercially, prescribe it professionally, or possess it. The anti-marihuana law of 1937 was largely the federal government's response to political pressure from enforcement agencies and other alarmed groups who feared the use and spread of marihuana by "Mexicans." Recent evidence also suggests that the Federal Bureau of Narcotics resisted the enforcement burden of the antimarihuana law until mounting pressure on the Treasury Department led to a departmental decision, probably in 1935, to appease this fear, mostly in the Southwest and West, by federal legislation. Previously unpublished documents clarify the role of medical research in the campaign for a federal anti-marihuana law and in the Treasury Department's preparation for congressional hearings.I wish I could show you what a small marihuana cigaret can do to one of our degenerate Spanish-speaking residents. That's why our problem is so great; the greatest percentage of our population is composed of Spanish-speaking persons, most of who are low mentally, because of social and racial conditions. The last days of legal cannabis
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/04/ECH04_00.HTMBigotry and Aparteid
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/04/ECH04_08.HTM#bigotrySelf Perpetuating Lies
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/04/ECH04_13.HTM#liesIf he had bothered to check, showed at least 65-75% of all murders in the U.S. were then—and still are—alcohol related.As an example of his racist statements, Anslinger read into U.S. Congressional testimony (without objection) stories about ‘coloreds’ with big lips, luring white women with jazz music and marijuana.He read an account of two “Negro” students at the University of Minnesota doing this to a white coed “with the result of pregnancy.” The
Congressmen of 1937 gasped at this and at the fact that this drug seemingly caused white women to touch or even look at a “Negro.”A Roundup of Hearst’s Hysterical Headlines
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/04/ECH04_17.HTM#headlineshttp://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/05/ECH05_01.HTM
To refute the LaGuardia report, the AMA, at Anslinger’s personal request, conducted a 1944-45 study “of the experimental group 34 Negroes and one was white” (for statistical “control”) who smoked marijuana became disrespectful of white soldiers and officers in the segregated military. (See Appendix in the paper version of this book, Army Study of Marijuana,” Newsweek, Jan. 15, 1945.)Criminal Misconduct
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/05/ECH05_04.HTMBefore Anslinger started the pacifist zombie-marijuana scare in 1948, he publicly used jazz music, violence, and the “gore files” for five to seven more years (1943-50) in the press, at conventions, lectures, and Congressional hearings. Whether this was economically or racially inspired, or even because of up-beat music or some kind of synergistic (combined) hysteria; it is impossible to know for sure. But we do know the U.S. government (e.g., DEA) information disseminated on cannabis was then, and continues to be, a deliberate deception.Bush Quayle Lilly Pharmaceutical Sell Out
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/05/ECH05_06.HTM
D.E.A.th Deceptions
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Comment #30 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 21:02:59 PT
They admit it here
Officials admit that public service ads will not stop marijuana abuse, but they say the ads are needed to combat the myth that marijuana is a safe drug. Experts say kids and parents need to know that pot leads to lung damage, poor mental health, poor performance and delinquent behavior.http://www.msnbc.com/local/ktuu/M227227.asp?cp1=1
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 20:45:14 PT
Do I Have This Right
So John Walters thinks it's better for a child to drink alcohol then to smoke Cannabis?
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Comment #28 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 20:45:12 PT
More interesting stuff
"The Latin American drug cartels have stretched their tentacles much deeper into our lives that most people believe. It's possible they are calling the shots at all levels of government."
---William Colby, former CIA director, 1995http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00055.htm
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Comment #27 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 20:37:57 PT
What message is this
Intersesting paragraph"More of them are now presenting for dependency on marijuana than alcohol. That wasn't the case in the past, and that's a measure of how much this problem has worsened and needs to be addressed," says John Walters, director of the White House drug office.http://www.msnbc.com/local/ktuu/M227227.asp?cp1=1
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 20:35:54 PT
Had Enough
Even Alaska
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Comment #25 posted by Had Enough on September 22, 2002 at 20:32:37 PT
Alaska to get new anti-pot messages
They get to hear it also. Same old stuff.http://www.msnbc.com/local/ktuu/M227227.asp?cp1=1
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 20:27:26 PT
You Might Want To Check Out This Poll
http://www.abqtrib.com/Has President Bush offered sufficient justification for military action against Iraq? Yes 52% (3541)No 48% (3263)Total: 6804
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Comment #23 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 20:14:22 PT
D.E.A.JA VU
If I had ever been here before
I would probably know just what to do
Don't you?If I had ever been here before on another time around the wheel
I would probably know just how to deal
With Walter's viewAnd I feel
like I've been here before
Feel
like I've been here beforeAnd you know it makes me wonder
What's going on under the ground, hmmmDo you know? Don't you wonder?What's going on down under youDa ba da da ba da da ba da da da da da daWe have all been here before, we have all been here beforeWe have all been here before, we have all been here before We have all been here before, we have all been here beforeAnyone seen CS&N?
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 19:30:24 PT
Thanks DdC
That sure made me feel better! LOL!
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Comment #21 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 19:26:15 PT
Where's the Crime FoM?
http://www.cannabinoid.com/wwwboard/politics/binaries/27/27571.gif
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 19:24:26 PT
Jeaneous
I hope tomorrow is a big success. Please let us know when you get back how it went. Yes take pictures. They can be put on line one way or another. I sure will say a prayer. Actually I have been all along.
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Comment #19 posted by Jeaneous on September 22, 2002 at 19:11:47 PT:
Dr's
Did anyone happen to watch the Fox channel with Dr. Isadore Rosenfeld phone calls? A woman was talking about medicinal use of marijuana for some ailment.. I didn't catch what.. but she said she used marijuana for relief and asked what his opinion was. He stated that if she lived in one of the states where it is legal to use, for her to continue to use it. This guy is Fox's Medical Specialist. So even the highest of the high dr's do agree that if can provide relief. I feel it in my heart that we have finally made them understand just what medicinal means.... and that it is true. After they see the turnout tomorrow in Sacramento there will be no doubts left. We will have been heard loudly. I have no doubt that tomorrow there will be another alert to scare citizens again and to also take the news media away from our rally. Write to all newspapers and television stations and ask them to cover it. I have written the few that I communicate with.I am planning on taking my digital camera tomorrow and will hopefully bring home some good pictures to post. One thing all. Please take a few seconds tomorrow and say a prayer for all the patients, or send your vibes or however you choose to describe it, have all these wonderful people in your thoughts. Peace and LoveJeaneous
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 19:08:43 PT
p4me
I hope they don't get rid of us. When I'm feeling concerned I think why won't they stop and let us be? We are ordinary people with ordinary dreams and needs. We aren't terrorists and we mean no one any harm. Where's the crime? I don't see one. How can they see a crime? I exclude children from my thinking because I'm speaking about adults rights.
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Comment #17 posted by p4me on September 22, 2002 at 18:47:36 PT
Dr. Zombie wrote one long article for MJ.com
We have many people that have come to a new reality similar to Dr. Zombie. He just put his feelings into one long article that just went up at Marijuana.com: http://www.marijuana.com/article.php?sid=4434&mode=thread&order=0We are going to end this war and the Internet will spread the words of reform. 1,2
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Comment #16 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 18:41:06 PT
Sorry Duzt...misspellings are my specialty
Cannabis Hemp: The Invisible Prohibition Revealed
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/invpro.htmlThe Elkhorn Manifesto
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Elkhorn.htmlCan Cannabis the Antibiotic Treat/Prevent Anthrax?
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitioncannabisfoodfuelfiberfarmaceuticals.showMessage?topicID=44.topicPrenatal Cannabis Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica: An Ethnographic Study
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/medical/can-babies.htm Cannabis Blocks Irreversible Brain Damage
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionffffhyperlinked.showMessage?topicID=3.topicCannabis prevents brain damage
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=24.topicCannabis Shrinks Tumors: Government Knew in 74
http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionwhyitstimetolegalize.showMessage?topicID=116.topicMARIJUANA AND HEMP The Untold Story
http://www.cannabis.com/untoldstory/#INDEXThe Emperor Wears No Clothes
http://www.jackherer.com
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Comment #15 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 18:31:22 PT
Thanks Dutz
I'd like more info at least to pass on if I can't make it. I've spoken with several Neurologist on pain management with cannabis and they all say its been included in seminars for at least 20 years. They also pseudoauthorized my giving it to patients, and were satisfied with the results. After they ran out of Pharmaceuticals first. A Pulminary Specialist and Optomologist also have granted their blessing but were aprehensive about signing any papers and I look at it as treating the patient first and the consequences of the politics if/when that time comes. GP's have also agreed and not one side effect or adverse reaction when using it alongside of another Pharmaceutical. Over 30 years I've toked and a recent chest x-ray tells me smoking kynd bud is beneficial. Prohibition causes schwagg to be sold and toked and I won't testify for it. The better the bud the less you toke. I also give it to patients in a milk extractum or vaporizer to quench any lingering doubts about toking. The problem with US research is it has proven too many times it will do as its told. Many countries are making US doctors look like chimpanzee's, along with reefer mad politician/cops and I'm laughing very hard at them myself. Uncovering Universities covering up research on orders and the money researchers are given to find negative results makes the US cannabis policy, the AMA and the BAR simpleton bullies unable to maintain their existance and deal with reality. Following orders blindly for that paycheck. Nice obedient people. Who needs them, the US can't keep this war and a war on the planet going forever. Europe and Asia grow hemp and do research that the US press won't cover. Our farmers can guzzle sudz protesting hemp and ganja till the bank comes... I don't need no stinking badges to know the benefits of cannabis, my patients don't either. If they knew this in 1952 and covered it up again in 1974, why would anyone listen to the FDA, AMA, BAR or especially the fascist Just Us D.E.A.th? ¶8) The IOM report still sits on Thompsons HHS desk while 735,000 create jobs in the incarceration fields. Thanks anyway...Webster's Dictionary 1952Bhang-(bang). n [Hind.from Sans.. bhanga,hemp]
An Indian variety of the common hemp, the resin of which is highly narcotic and intoxicant, and a popular Oriental stimulant, otherwise called hashish. Also employed in medicine, for its anodyne,hyponotic, and anti-spasmodic qualities; also spelled bang, beng.
Peace, Love and Liberty or D.E.A.th...DdCThe USA Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy 1987
"Cannabis can be used on an episodic but continual basis without evidence of social or psychic dysfunction. In many users the term dependence with its obvious connotations, probably is mis-applied... The chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not toxicologic, foundation"Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA:
"Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia" Doctors Organization Scales Back Proposal
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10107.shtmlAMA
http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/37/37230.gifNewt Gingrich's Support for Medical Marijuana The following letter by Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga, now Speaker of the House) in support of medical access to
marijuana originally appeared in the March 19, 1982 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). To the Editor, The American Medical Association's Council on Scientific Affairs should be commended for its report, "Marijuana: Its Health Hazards and Therapeutic Potential" (1981;246:1823). Not only does the report outline evidence of marijuana's potential harms, but it distinguishes this concern from the legitimate issue of marijuana's important medical benefits. All too often the hysteria that attends public debate over marijuana's social abuse compromises a clear appreciation for this critical distinction. Since 1978, 32 states have abandoned the federal prohibition to recognize legislatively marijuana's important
medical properties. Federal law, however, continues to define marijuana as a drug "with no accepted medical use,"
and federal agencies continue to prohibit physician-patient access to marijuana. This outdated federal prohibition is corrupting the intent of the state laws and depriving thousands of glaucoma and cancer patients of the medical
care promised them by their state legislatures. On September 16, 1981, Representatives Stewart McKinney and I introduced legislation designed to end bureaucratic interference in the use of marijuana as a medicant. We believe licensed physicians are competent to enploy marijuana, and patients have a right to obtain marijuana
legally, under medical supervision, from a regulated source. The medical prohibition does not prevent seriously ill patients from employing marijuana; it simply deprives them of medical supervision and denies them access to a regulated medical substance. Physicians are often forced to choose between their ethical responsibilities to the patient and their legal liabilities to federal bureaucrats. Representative McKinney and I hope the Council will take a close and careful look at this issue. Federal policies do
not reflect a factual or balanced assessment of marijuana's use as a medicant. The Council, by thoroughly investigating the available materials, might well discover that its own assessment of marijuana's therapeutic value has, in the past, been more than slightly shaded by federal policies that are less than neutral. Newt Gingrich
House of Representatives
Washington, DC
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Comment #14 posted by p4me on September 22, 2002 at 18:24:57 PT
FoM, they are not going to get rid of us
I was checking on the progress of the clinical studies being done by GW Pharmaceuticals and they are all but ready to submit their studies on marijuana for MS. When Mr. Prohibitionist starts seeing big bucks going to support the invalid's medicines, he is going to call Mrs. Brainwashed and say it sure would make sense to let people grow their own medicine. Here is the link to the progress of GW Pharma studies on varies diseases in an easy to see chart: http://www.gwpharm.com/rese_prod_index.htmlThc4MS.org.uk has received much coverage and they have speakers going out to talk to different groups and a well developed website: http://www.thc4ms.org.uk/The DEA tide is going out and as soon as the rip tides subside some more people are going to be talking about the screwed up priorities of the government that ignore the people's proper priorities. 1,2
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 17:26:08 PT
Hi MDG
I just got back from checking my email and there wasn't anything new. I found the web site but the link didn't work. Paranoia runs deep these days with all of us. We are at a cross road. I've thought and thought why they bothered to do what they did at WAMM and it is too scare everyone and show us they are going to get rid of us. When they did that to WAMM they struck at our heart. How low can they go?
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Comment #12 posted by MDG on September 22, 2002 at 17:17:14 PT
No answer. Raid could be happening.
For those interested in calling, the number for Shelter From The Storm is (619) 521-0337. I got it out of the phone book and called to see if anything was going on. There wasn't any answer. Of course, now I'm getting paranoid about a DEA agent seeing my phone number on the caller ID and coming to get me. Damn anxiety.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 16:59:22 PT
Duzt
Thank you. Please keep us posted. That's what I love about the Internet. We can get answers really quickly. I hope it isn't so but it more then likely is. I'm starting to have nightmares when I go to sleep. I haven't had nighmares in years.
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Comment #10 posted by Duzt on September 22, 2002 at 16:54:51 PT
raid
I'm currently in Nevada so I'm hearing contradicting reports too. I'm trying to get a hold of some friends who run coops in San Bernadino who will know for sure but haven't heard back. It sounds like from what I've heard that it is being raided, but can't say now for 100% certainty either. As soon as I hear back from somebody there I will post and let you know. Please post something here if you hear something for sure first. Let's hope it's not happening, but as much as they are harrassing us and with what's happening tomorrow, it seems likely.
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Comment #9 posted by p4me on September 22, 2002 at 16:51:53 PT
A little LTE for the author
Withdraw From This War
Posted by CN Staff on September 22, 2002 at 13:27:29 PTThe article of Froma Harrop appeared at CannabisNews.com at this link:
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/14/thread14209.shtml The first comment limited other comments as it slammed a statement in the article that said, “No one here is calling marijuana a wonder drug.” Maybe if she had read this article she would think differently: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/7/thread7770.shtmlThe Guardian out of the UK did an article that appeared at CannabisNews- http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/11/thread11254.shtml titled Cannabis Medical Miracle- It’s Official. The first line of that article reads, “Cannabis is a 'wonder drug' capable of radically transforming the lives of very sick people, according to the results of the first clinical trials of the drug.”Now maybe you don’t call cannabis a medical miracle because you do no research. I also suggest reading Jack Herer’s online version of “The Emperor Wears No Clothes” at http://www.jackherer.com/book/. Now if the author does not know who Jack Herer is you have one ignorant person writing about cannabis that happened to come to a logical conclusion because the laws are so insanely malicious. The author may never have heard of the Campaign for the Restoration and Regulation of Hemp website: http://www.crrh.org. This is the broadband connection for “The Emperor of Hemp,” a one-hour video that will start automatically if you click here: http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/docs_emperor.htmlJust because I agree with the conclusions of the author does not mean I find her understanding of the situation lacking.1,2
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 16:45:01 PT
Duzt
I saw that earlier in a newsgroup but then I saw them say it wasn't so so I wasn't sure what to do. Has it been confirmed now? I looked at the Union Tribune and didn't find anything but it would be early to have a story up already. If it's true this is terrible. I couldn't find a web site for Shelter from the Storm. I thought they had one but maybe I just thought they did or I just can't find it. I'll look again.
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Comment #7 posted by Duzt on September 22, 2002 at 16:41:28 PT
DdC
There is also an excellent medical symposium on the use of cannabinoids in pain management and other diseases and conditions being held next Saturday in Reno, Nv. If you can make it or want more info, let me know, it should be very informative.
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Comment #6 posted by Duzt on September 22, 2002 at 16:37:32 PT
Another freakin raid by the jackass squad
DEA is at the moment conducting a raid at Shelter from the Storm in San Diego. The harrassed Mr. McWillians last week with an order to stop growing and supplying the sick with medicine that works. They now are destroying his garden. He helped hand out free cannabis last week in Santa Cruz and the Feds are doing there harm again. Go to Sacramento (south lawn of the capital buildin at 11 AM) on Monday if at all possible, this has to stop.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 16:30:21 PT
p4me
I sure hope it goes right! So much is happening in such a short time. That's good though. I saw your Alaska comment. I went and looked and found the Initiative but no articles on any of the Alaskan papers that I quick looked through. Maybe writing to different papers might get them writing or maybe keeping it quiet might leave sleeping dogs lie. I'm sure you understand you old bull you! LOL!
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on September 22, 2002 at 16:23:10 PT
VitaminT
I'm on my way in spirit. I hope they are successful. They must be and please be careful.
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Comment #3 posted by p4me on September 22, 2002 at 16:15:19 PT
Big Drug Forum in Canada on Monday
Ddc, I believe you told it like it was. What a composition in comment1.There is an international forum in Montreal starting Monday: http://www.canada.com/search/site/story.asp?id=E18E159C-9206-4FD8-B0F7-097B58906A35The following paragraphs come from that link: A Canadian Senate committee's call to legalize possession of marijuana will fuel one of the key debates at an international forum on drugs and addiction that begins tomorrow in downtown Montreal."We have every aspect of this issue represented at the forum so it will make for a very interesting debate," Luc Chabot, executive director of the World Forum on Drugs, Dependencies and Society, said yesterday.Included among the 3,000 participants from 50 countries is Senator Pierre-Claude Nolin, whose committee on illegal drugs this month recommended that possession of North America's most popular illicit drug be legalized in Canada.1,2
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Comment #2 posted by VitaminT on September 22, 2002 at 16:12:27 PT
I hope we're all on our way,
if at all possible, to a local Candlelight vigil at this hour. If you can't be at one, please light a candle and take the time to write one more letter. Let's hang together and win this - you all know we can! PEACE and Godspeed
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Comment #1 posted by DdC on September 22, 2002 at 15:23:00 PT
NOT a wonder plant? Shirley You Jest!!!
Personally I know cannabis relieves side effects ordinarilly patients are required to use OTC (over the counter) meds for, which also have side effects requiring even more Pharmaids = $$$profits and taxes on those profits. Homegrown organic ganja doesn't feed fascism, thats the problem. Not a wonder drug? Then what is, aspirin that kills 1100 people a year? Cannabis dries drool, runny nose, phlegm, reflux and increases liquid intake. Soothes aches and pains and aids in removing chemically induced nightmares. Brain trauma and Glucoma pressure, Neurological spasms and provides relaxation, another foundation block of maintaining health. Stress and depression reduction and less anxiety, though sometimes the reefer mad boogyman and the reality of jail may be unsettling for beginners. Increase appetite and reduces nausea. Junkies kicking the white powders and booze and when it's all said and done and the end is inevitable, provides a peacefully passing. The stalks provide fiber and fuel and paper and lumber without poisonous addictive pestycides and herbysides that lead to abortions and neurological disease. The meat takes 12 pounds of chemically induced grain for every pound of cow welfare & cholestriol that the organic ditchweed making up 99.28% of the "Save Our Children" marijuana eradications nationwide. All terminal illness use addictive drugs, Parkinson uses leva dopa, withdrawal is impossible once its started. Many Pharmaids stop the natural process of healing. Cannabis is schedule #1 and the lie is it has NO medicinal value when that is absolutely the most moronic statement of the century. Who is to dictate remedies? Full blown asthma attacks can not be stopped by any Pharm aid, yet cannabis will. Cannabis seed is the most nutritionally balanced food on the planet, a foundation block of health.Every thugczar has profitted on the war on some drugs. hint hint. After busting 700,000 a year McCafrey decided to go into the "Treatment"business, while the Bushits still sell food to the prisons. Not counting the Pharmaids and Monsanto Petrochemicals together under UpJohn's umbrella. Crude has greater threats than hemp biomass, but its still competition out of the way under prohibition. Perpetuating the war on cannabis profits. Its that simple. Preventing illness or anthrax or serin gas is a fact in Israel. Remember the wod junkies. They're so ridiculously funny if you know the truth.Peace, Love and Liberty or the Merchants of D.E.A.th!
If it work's for the patient, then it works!
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