cannabisnews.com: Marijuana Activists Urge Ballot Review Marijuana Activists Urge Ballot Review Posted by CN Staff on August 16, 2002 at 21:17:34 PT METRO In Brief Source: Washington Post Representatives of the Marijuana Policy Project yesterday asked the D.C. Board of Elections and Ethics to reconsider its decision to keep a medical marijuana initiative off the November ballot.This month, the board ruled that the group failed to gather enough valid signatures to place an initiative on the general election ballot that would decriminalize the medical use of marijuana. The group's appeal said the board had made "massive errors" that resulted in the rejection of thousands of petition signatures. It asked for a review of those signatures.The group needed to submit 17,455 signatures, which represent 5 percent of the city's registered voters, and within that pool, had to include 5 percent of the registered voters in five of the city's eight wards. The election board ruled that although the Marijuana Policy Project passed the first threshold, it fell 122 signatures short of meeting the 5 percent requirement in one of the five wards.Kenneth J. McGhie, the board's general counsel, said the District's registrar of voters would examine the contested signatures. Source: Washington Post (DC)Published: Saturday, August 17, 2002; Page B03 Copyright: 2002 The Washington Post Company Contact: letterstoed washpost.comWebsite: http://www.washingtonpost.com Press Release From The Marijuana Policy Project On the morning of August 16th, MPP filed formal papers asking the District of Columbia Board of Elections and Ethics (BOEE) to reconsider its decision not to certify Initiative 63, the Medical Marijuana Initiative of 2002, for the November ballot.After hundreds of hours of work, MPP found evidence of massive errors by the BOEE's staff, which resulted in the rejection of thousands of valid petition signatures.Initiative petitions must contain valid signatures from five percent of the District's registered voters, and that total must include five percent of voters from at least five of the city's eight wards. There is no dispute that the more than 18,000 signatures accepted by the Board met the citywide requirement, but the BOEE claimed that MPP had presented enough valid signatures from only four of eight wards. Since then, MPP has identified thousands of valid signatures that were wrongly rejected as not belonging to registered voters -- enough to surpass the five percent requirement in at least six wards. View Full Text of the Press Release Here:http://www.mpp.org/dcinitiative/news081502.htmlRelated Articles & Web Site:Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/D.C. Marijuana Petitions Fall Short http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13670.shtmlGroup Wants Marijuana Issue on Ballot http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13139.shtmlMedical Marijuana Ban Overturned in D.C. http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12422.shtmlRuling May Put Marijuana Measure on Ballothttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12398.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #22 posted by dddd on August 20, 2002 at 03:53:15 PT ...Greetings From Outer Space!... ....ya know...as far as offending me,,or being too 'nasty' on me for whatever things I have said on any of the numerous thread events......I dont mind...I dont take anything that someone says about me too seriously, ,,WHY?. .because I am dqpb...The only thing anyone,and everyone really knows about me,is from the things I say..... Everyone who chooses to comment here,,is commenting under and assumed name,,and all anyone knows about anyone else,,is from the things they say,,,their "verbal demeanor",so to speak.. ...Perhaps I have pushed the jive / jester/joker thing to the point of tastelessness.,, ,,and,, to anyone who has had their feelings hurt by my bigmouth ramble-blabbing, ,,,I will once again,, offer my Sincere Apologies! ...I'm not out to hurt anyone, for any reason.!!.. .. ..And,,when things get sorta nasty,,and the verbal exchanges get out of hand ,, and blows are landed 'below the belt',,.. ..I usually try to defend the underdog,,or if the punches are aimed towards me,, I try to respond with justifiable,and equivilent force....... ...There's no question,that I have gone overboard in the past!.....I have acted like a stupid,silly dickhead on more than one occassion,,,,and I am ashamed of myself....... BUT.....anyone who knows my unique and questionable history of nutty comments, ,should keep in mind that I seriously care about Everyone!,,, and if I fuck up,,and say too much of the wrong thing,, then I fucked up and said too much of the wrong things!.. I would never purposely tear apart anyones world,, especially not someone who I respect,and admire. ...I guess the long,and the short of it,,is that my reckless,flippant,bluffing,,, stepped accross a certain line of acceptable behavior... and I ended up doing severe,,yet unintended damage to certain person(s).. This is not what I am all about.... This is not what I am here for.......Yes ..it's true... My comments drift far beyond the articles, and issues at hand...my doghouse dogma assumes the relevance of a tropical penguin eskimo carnitas brautwurst sushi hamburger sirloin dumpling lobster!!!... .... ... So.... keep all this in mind next time someones goat escapes! .. .. ..I may rub people the wrong way,, and raise a ruckus in the rumpus room,,, (?).... but I am not out to pick at the crusts of anyones old wounds or scabs........BUT...nonetheless,, I will also make an effort to tread a bit more cautiously around matters that may be more delicate than they appear.... ...I just sorta ended up here....I got thousands of flaws of my own.... I'm just a faceless face in the crowd of comment writers. ...If I accidently step on your toes,,then let me know,and we will talk about it... If you wanna play rough,, then I like that too.... If you wanna have some cheap, knee slappin' fun,,, then let's romp!.. ... If you want to get into some highbrow intuhlleckchyool discourse,,, then I'll pretend I know what I'm talkin' about.. ....One thing I want to make clear,,,again.....I claimed to be a "Psychiatrist"....I do NOT ,do it for a living,,and I do NOT, have any degree from any recognized institution.....I have only my personal matriculation, and a self bestowed title.....I am little more than an old Hippie Gypsy kind of guy,,who lives in a small,cluttered studio shack, ,deep within the beaches of SoCal....I work on boats,and houses,,mainly woodwork. or ?...I make enough to feed my Dog and myself,,pay the phone bill and rent, ,stay online,,and keep my van running..... I'm just an old Hippie, with alot to say ...It aint worth it for anyone to get upset about my serious clowning!,,,but if I do accidently touch a nerve,,then let me know,. .. if appropriate,,,, perhaps try to retaliate,and frazzle one of my nerves,,or,inquire as to the nature of my assumed beschmirchment of the inner jewel nugget gemstone of that morning of the event that your mind got torn on! .....this is a special place....EVERYONE who comments here,,is what makes it special......... Shame on you if you read ,but never comment!... ..Shame on you,,if you let some assumed offensive comment cause you to leave in a huff! ..and,, Shame on me,if I ever was reckless enough to mispeak,and shred someones feelings! ...... I'll try to stay sortof 'on topic',,,but I wont hesitate to toss out obtrusive gassers like: "Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves"I was born in the wagon of a travelin' show My mama used to dance for the money they'd throw Papa would do whatever he could Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Doctor Good.Gypsys, tramps and thieves We'd hear it from the people of the town they'd call us Gypsys, tramps and thieves But every nite all the men would come around And lay their money downPicked up a boy just south of Mobile Gave him a ride, filled him with a hot meal I was sixteen, he was twenty-one Rode with us to Memphis, and papa would have shot him if he knew what he'd doneGypsys, tramps and thieves We'd hear it from the people of the town they'd call us Gypsys, tramps and thieves But every nite all the men would come around And lay their money downI never had schoolin' but he taught me well with his smooth, southern style Three months later I'm a gal in trouble and I haven't seen him for a while, uh huh I haven't seen him for a while, uh huhShe was born in the wagon of a travelin' show Her mama had to dance for the money they'd throw Grandpa'd do whatever he could Preach a little gospel, and sell a couple bottles of Doctor GoodGypsys, tramps and thieves We'd hear it from the people of the town they'd call us Gypsys, tramps and thieves But every nite all the men would come around And lay their money downGypsys, tramps and thieves We'd hear it from the people of the town they'd call us Gypsys, tramps and thieves But every nite all the men would come around And lay their money down. ...........I dont think I would get married if I had to marry Cher......I'm not sure if I could get along with her. ...May JAH Shine on Us All.......dddd [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by Lehder on August 19, 2002 at 01:08:01 PT You're right, Nuevo and so is FoM and I'm having regrets about being so nasty to dddd. Ej burned herself out. I intend not to and from now on will take care to let people play as they wish and to keep our common enemies in my sights. Hasta Luego. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by FoM on August 18, 2002 at 20:34:35 PT Nuevo Mexican I understand what you're saying but I'm staying out of it. That's best for me. I censor myself all the time. I think it's good to do. It makes me think before I speak. No sense in stirring things up is the way I look at it. Everything works out in time but sometimes it takes time to heal. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by Nuevo Mexican on August 18, 2002 at 20:25:33 PT I don't take offense when..... I get whistled at by men who think I am a woman due to my waiste length hair. I secure in my manhood and could care less, actually I love the look I get when I turn around and they see I'm a man. Makes ya wonder if these macho types are closet cases doesn't it. So dddd's comments to EJ joking about being a man should be taken in context. C'mon, its 2002, if anybody has issue with sexual orientation, appearances, masculinity vs. femininity, you weren't paying attention for the last 40 years, nobodys faults but your own. Yes E.J. was articulate, but inflexibe, and I find dddd to be the icon for fun, accurate, political, generational analysis, that I visit C-News specifically for. Thank you very much, civility is nice, but truth isn't truth without being truthful. I'm guilty of stirring up the pot, as this is a 'Cannabis' website, the most controversial sacrament in history. How can we be non controversial? Perhaps only in that we are in the eye of the storm. I understand your drift FOM, but people like dddd make this site what it is, I'm sure you'll agree! No disrepect to your calls for civility, but in the bush regime era, diversity of views is the only 'safe' approach, to the new 'McCarthyism' that is so rampant. I try to keep my views to myself lately, as a form of self-censorship, but just had to speak out in defense of our outspoken spokesmen, dddd. I know you understand what I'm saying! I'll try and stick to the issues, but the tangents I'm taken on through this website always lead me to new insights, information, and is what I love about this place. Keep up the great work FOM, your the best! Speaking of tangents, articles like the one that follows remind me of what our government is capable of and most Americans are in complete denial about, as it is too horrible to bear, that we are complicite when we don't speak out. Bush is responsible for this horror, I will argue to the end that this atrocity was sanctioned by our redneck, death-penalty loving presi-dunce. America's Afghan Allies Asphyxiated Hundreds of Surrendering Taliban Prisoners En Route to Jail, http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020818/nysu002a_1.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by The GCW on August 18, 2002 at 09:03:47 PT knox42897 & 420 to 920 420 to 920?Only Christ God Our Father through the promised Holy Spirit of Truth, knows how true Your inspiration for Truth is, for this keeps on coming.It keeps on coming, through The Holy Spririt of Truth.the link below, (#2 titled The Rest of the Story) indicates another instance where through non other than Him in All Truth, We are given devine indications, and again, this keeps on going.The Holy Spirit of Truth feeds Truth, not deciet.It always has and always will. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by goneposthole on August 18, 2002 at 06:11:20 PT E_J E_Johnson is intelligent, articulate, and formally educated.Her informative remarks are nonpareil. She has command of her knowledge.She also became defensive and censorial when asked a simple question.I don't like censorship, but I like E_Johnson. If she chooses to come back, she will be welcomed. I believe she is pro-choice. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by knox42897 on August 17, 2002 at 20:29:25 PT: 420 to 920 Hello 420 friends, I live in Las Vegas, NV. As you may know the Nevada Conference of Police and sheriffs once supported our initiative to legalize 3oz. of weed, they voted 9 to 0 in favor. Well they have since changed their minds and want everyone to forget the whole matter. So in honor of the NCOPS 9 to 0 vote. We, Nevadans are moving from 420 friendly to 920 friendly. 9 to 0, 920 friendly. We are wondering how long it would take to catch n, with smokers and the police. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by FoM on August 17, 2002 at 13:12:54 PT Lehder I have a problem telling people what to do. I like doing the news and don't want people upset with me. I hope that my requests are honored but I don't know how to control people. I don't read the long threads most times so I could have missed something. I hope EJ comes back. I really do. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by Lehder on August 17, 2002 at 13:05:35 PT sorry, FoM, I'm not quite done. You're right, we need to talk about the news items, as I have been. But where was that advice when dddd was so childishly asking EJ for a date a few months ago? This is not the proper forum for looking for romance. And dddd, considering her personal accomplishments and education, your seeking a date with her under any circumstance was hopeless and pathetic. I thought EJ handled it with typical aplomb, though, stating simply, "I am married."But that was not enough - you had to keep pestering her when you could not get a date with aspersions about women who wish they were men etc etc - totally uncalled for. How would you like it if you wrote some of the best comments on this site, full of wit, erudition, wisdom, fact and history, and after many such comments to receive the response from some aggressive jerk that, well, grudgingly, maybe you've got enough brains to be fucked? Think about that, grow up and come back a better man.I'm not worried about EJ kicking my ass, but you're lucky she didn't break your legs.Now I am finished, FoM. I hope that EJ returns and that when she does she will be respected for what she offers; I learned a lot from her without having to date her.Best wishes, EJ, and many thanks, PAZNow back to the war. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by FoM on August 17, 2002 at 08:29:21 PT dddd Thanks for understanding. We need to get back to talking about the news items. I don't want C News to slip away from what it has been. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by bbbb on August 17, 2002 at 07:31:43 PT furthermore between me,, and pdq,,,,i sometimes feel like I am being an overly intense site bogart bigmouth clown jester..I'm gonna take a week off for some galactic Nebula hunting in Deep Space.....I'll be back.... [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by dddd on August 17, 2002 at 07:14:42 PT ............... .thank you FoM.....words of wisdom from Ethan.... ..I know that quite often I am the one who has stirred up the pot,,or picked the scab,,that fueled the mayhem that has occurred recently......I will try to smooth out my suggestive nubbins of potential conflict,,and minimize my nudgings toward ruffling the goats that tempt me from their corrals.....I hope by-gones can be by-gones,,and we can all pretend we are normal once again......May JAH Shine on us all....love...dddd [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by FoM on August 17, 2002 at 06:38:54 PT Please Read This From Dr. Russo http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread13765.shtml#6 [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by dddd on August 17, 2002 at 05:58:23 PT ...you are too good Lehder.... ....and the truth is,,that EJ could easily casually kick my ass any time.....EJ could probably beat the shit out of you!..................In a certain way,,EJ already kicked my ass,,but it was not the kind of ass kicking that was necessary,,or that one can be proud of.....none the less,,,,I'm sorta scared of EJ now....Her sense of humor is not readily accessible...she dont mess around with casual fun very often,,,but her observations and comments are outstanding! ...I pity da foo' who be messin' wit EJ! ...are you kidding about Al Bundy?....Al Bundy is as big as Homer Simpson!,,,Are you hep to Homer Simpson?...dddd [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by Lehder on August 17, 2002 at 05:16:57 PT hi, dddd That's funny, but I bet it would be even funnier if I knew who Al Bundy is. Here's an article you'll like:We wonder how a mother could have made a choice between children, to send one to the gas chamber only in order to preserve the other for a while. It won't be long before we snitch on our closest and dearest ones to save our own skins for a while. We will be afraid to think dangerous, political thoughts, since thought has already been criminalized. It matters who you speak to, what you read, what you write--and so thought must shut down for four or eight or twelve years, until the beast has gone into retreat and it is safe to come out into the open. We will watch ourselves, in O'Brien's final imperative, to the extent that we will stop believing what we believe, what we see in front of our eyes, so that two plus two is never four, only what the rulers tell us. The boldest amongst us, used to thinking of ourselves as heroic and invincible, will be like lambs. http://www.counterpunch.org/shivani0813.htmlI hope that EJ is working hard on her physics, as I have been. Physics has always got to come first. I sometimes feel like a medieval monk whose work must be secreted away to wait for a hundred years before a peaceful use can be found for it. Until the clouds of fascism and ignorance part and the light is welcomed again, I refuse to publish in the US; and on those infrequent occasions when after enormous effort and a dozen false paths I find something real in the World, I send it to Europe.But on my "breaks" I will not temper my remarks, and I hope that after some successful investigations EJ will return to casually kick your ass and then continue with her incisive commentaries. We have a drug war because people were afraid to speak for fear of being called some name or other, and we're in imminent danger of a national genocide for the same reason.Vine aqui porque estoy enojado. Vine aqui luchar. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by dddd on August 17, 2002 at 04:26:41 PT good to see you Lehder... ".... I think there's a criminal culpability here, not an error." .....I'll see your "think",,and raise ya a "know"!.....If this is an "error",,I'll ride a seahorse to Easter Island,and erect a new statue of Al Bundy!...dddd [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by Lehder on August 17, 2002 at 04:05:17 PT toe the line Kenneth J. McGhie, the board's general counsel, said the District's registrar of voters would examine the contested signatures. The signatures were to have been examined prior to the board's ruling. If its ruling was not based on an examination of the signatures, then what was it based on?You used to have to work for your money, but no more. Just pass a piss test, follow orders, be stupid, never ask questions, and don't make waves. I'm glad the board's ruling is being contested because I think there's a criminal culpability here, not an error. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by The GCW on August 16, 2002 at 23:16:24 PT hey, that's today... Seattle Hempfest Seattle Hempfest by CC staff (17 Aug, 2002) August 17 & 18, 10 am - 8 pm, Myrtle Edwards Park, Downtown Seattle http://www.hempbc.com/articles/2451.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by The GCW on August 16, 2002 at 23:12:52 PT Medpot stars give for patients by Pete Brady (12 Aug, 2002) American activists advocate for healing ganjahttp://www.hempbc.com/articles/2569.htmlAlso at the conference was a familiar and welcome cannabis genius face: neurobiologist Dr. Ethan Russo....continued article... with photo of Dr. Ethan Russo... [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by The GCW on August 16, 2002 at 23:04:01 PT Activist died... Ian Hunter tragedy Ian Hunter tragedy by Reverend Damuzi (16 Aug, 2002) Prominent BC cannabis activist found dead Ian Hunter: will be sorely missed. On thursday, August 15, 2002, I received a phone call from Dustin Cantwell, co-owner of Nelson's activist and culture shop, Holy Smoke. Ian Hunter, a friend and fellow cannabis activist, was missing after a boat trip onto Kootenay Lake, and had been gone for over 24 hours. We began to organize search parties, but soon learned that his body had been found, floating beside the boat in open waters.... http://www.hempbc.com/articles/2573.htmlcontinued... [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by The GCW on August 16, 2002 at 22:56:08 PT The rest of the story... I have been a part of helping Colorado get the medical use of Cannabis a step closer to reality, through the election process. It was not done on a level playing field, and I’m reminded of that fact when I read this article. This following letter was written, while the issue was current for Colorado, and is not edited for today, yet is revealing. Please read it for the inspiration that All Truth, brings. Through Christ God and the Holy Spirit of Truth, Cannabis IS a blessing, with a God awesome safety record.friend / brother, with the commandment of love. 4:20This is a story brought to me by the Holy Spirit of Truth. It will help clearly illustrate our Creators will regarding the issue of caging humans for using cannabis for health reasons. It would seem obvious to my most dinful brothers from the conservative, right wing Christians, that it is wrong. Perhaps their conscience is seared by a branding iron. The name has not been changed to protect the guilty and since the guilty is dead, I apologize for not using an alternative story for illustration, but nothing else works better than Gods stroke of the brush. No alternative story does the same thing to show how our Lord sees it.Some people visiting Colorado, mentioned something about the marijuana law just passed, Amendment 21 or 20 and couldn’t remember which it was. I said I have a story inspired by God that will help you remember which one it is, forever. You know our creator basically decides when we come and go. There are too many coincidences that occur to simply call it chance. I believe in the Lords timing, which is too great to underestimate! Those coincidences are of the Lords control and may have more signs than we usually will catch. Time, perhaps, is the Lords currency. Timing is of Gods time. We are here on Gods time and NO ONE has ever been able to escape that fact.Are you familiar with the underground code for lighting up a joint, bowl, or bong etc. and getting high? It is 4:20, and so at 4:20 in the afternoon people have been firing up around the world for many years. There is now in fact the Pot TV news broadcast that is live at 4:20 pm weekdays. http://www.pot-tv.net/ is the site for Richard Cowens news Broadcast. Younger citizens may be more aware of the code than older people but the fact remains, 4:20 is the Internationally, excepted underground term for, fire up. The informed know the truth. A few years ago, a group of citizens organized to get enough signed petitions to put a medical marijuana initiative on the ballot. Colorado Secretary of State Victoria Buckley miscounted the petition signatures and ruled it inadequate whereby the organized group etc. took the matter to court and the judge ordered Buckley to recount the petitions, but again Buckley, came up short. With so many more signatures than what was needed the group knew this was wrong, and vowed to fight it further. So it then would be left on the actual ballot ‘cause the decision came after it could be removed from the ballot, yet Buckley said the ballot would not count. Election Exit polls showed it would have passed app. 60% to %40. Well, after the election, one day, all of a sudden Victoria Buckley dies of heart failure while holding office, with enough uncounted signed petitions in her desk to have made the ballot measure legal. Here we have a young, person who the Lord has decided to take at this very instance, having those uncounted petitions hidden in her private desk, becoming exposed. I do not think our creator gets pleasure from seeing someone, cage someone for using cannabis. The Lord, perhaps even LESS gets pleasure from seeing someone, cage someone, for using cannabis for necessary health reasons. This is an example of our creator showing us, blatantly, that the truth will be exposed, always, as written in the Bible. We’re given the sign. Luke 12:2. John 8:32. But that is not the only sign God gives us.Now for the rest of the story.Once the truth became evident, the new Colorado Secretary of State automatically put the amendment on the next election ballot. It was on the old ballot as Amendment 19, when Buckley didn’t count it. Now, through the power of the Lords timing, it was automatically placed as the first proposition on the 2000 Ballot and now known as Amendment 20. It appears that through the Lords will it automatically went from Amendment 19 to 20, just like that. In the Colorado underground in quickly became known as VOTE 4:20! That is not just a coincidence that pro cannabis types can control, but a big kick by our Father in Heaven, showing a sign, we should all be able to get. Young people across the state, who do not trust the government and display deep contempt for government’s use of patent lies to perpetuate the war for profit, concerning the issue of cannabis, received the message from our creator, loud and clear. Does this help show our Lords interest on the issue?This may be a good time to prey to our creator, prey for Victoria Buckley and ask to know the truth…That you may use the truth to set you and your neighbor free. To know the truth about how to treat our neighbors who choose to use cannabis. To see the signs, in Gods perfect time. Gods perfect timing. Prey, that you will never be the departed in 1 Timothy 4:1-5. Prey for those the departed.Our brothers and neighbors who are sick and wish to use cannabis might as well be saying, I desire compassion and not sacrifice. My neighbor may ask that you give mercy and compassion, instead of sacrifice, like Christ in Matthew 9:13 and 12:7. Through Christ, all things including the mercy and compassion are possible.I will vote for leaders who are not afraid of making the necessary changes in our countries drug laws. Caging your neighbor for using cannabis is a sin. Please help end the war not escalate it.Those who cage today may appear barbaric tomorrow.Those who vote to cage are the problem in our society not cannabis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by MikeEEEEE on August 16, 2002 at 22:52:15 PT Liars After hundreds of hours of work, MPP found evidence of massive errors by the BOEE's staff I think the only solution will be to take the liars to court. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment