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Met Ends Lambeth Cannabis Scheme
Posted by CN Staff on July 27, 2002 at 12:40:40 PT
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
Source: Independent UK
A scheme in which people caught in possession of small amounts of cannabis are let off with a warning ends next week, when police will start arresting users of the drug again.The tougher approach follows criticism that the year-long pilot project in Lambeth, south London, was attracting drug-dealers to the area and giving a "mixed message" to youngsters, many of whom assumed cannabis had been legalised.
Under the new rules, officers will be instructed to make arrests for possession if they fear public disorder, if the drug is smoked openly, or if it is found on anyone under 17. Other people caught with small quantities will still be given a warning and the drug will be confiscated.The changes will bring Lambeth into line with a new national approach, following the decision by David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, to downgrade cannabis from Class B to Class C, making possession a less serious offence.Once the changes become law, police plan to adopt a tiered approach, in which most people caught with small quantities will not be prosecuted. The more liberal approach, pioneered by Commander Brian Paddick, was aimed at freeing up police totackle crack and heroin abuse.Brian Moore, Acting Borough Commander for Lambeth, said: "From 1 August, cannabis will still be seized and formal warnings issued. However, where aggravating circumstances apply, officers will be able to exercise discretion over whether to arrest."• Drug use is soaring among children, according to figures published yesterday. Government statistics for 2001 show that 6 per cent of 11-year-olds and 39 per cent of 15-year-olds in England had used drugs during the previous year. Cannabis was the most frequently reported, with 13 per cent of 11- to 15-year-olds having taken it. Source: Independent (UK)Author: Jason Bennetto, Crime CorrespondentPublished: July 26, 2002Copyright: 2002 Independent Newspapers (UK) Ltd.Contact: letters independent.co.ukWebsite: http://www.independent.co.uk/ Related Articles:Met To End Lambeth Cannabis Scheme http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13540.shtmlCannabis Trial Stubbed Outhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13539.shtmlPot Users Relax with New Lawhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13410.shtml
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Comment #53 posted by kaptinemo on July 30, 2002 at 06:25:40 PT:
John Tyler, you are very possibly right
 But they haven't been bought off in a formal way...not that I know of. As has been pointed out, many of the minority leadership (if you can call it that) have noted publicly the effects of the Wo(S)D; They can see what it is doing, but exactly like many of their Caucasian counterparts, they refuse to connect the dots. The incredibly clear racist history of the DrugWar is just as available to them as it is for us. They have no excuse of computer illiteracy; nearly the entire documentation concerning the origin of the DrugWar is in hardcopy. And you don't have to look far to find it. In books like Drug War by Dan Russell you have the very words of the cracker racist prohibs informing 'us' (an a priori assumption made throughout prohib suggestions for drug laws that the readers are White) of who this legislation is supposed to control, harass and ultimately imprison:Anyone whose skin has a melanin content darker than Wonder Bread.It's all right there, in historical record...and with notable exceptions such as Senator John Conyers and Congressperson Maxine Waters, the Black and Hispanic leadership, thus far, has made absolutely no mention of it.The laws are openly racist...and for the minority leadership of this country to willfully comply with openly racist laws in my book makes them lickspittles. They must enjoy the taste of someone else's saliva on their faces so much; they haven't done much about it in 3 decades.Claiming you marched with Dr. King don't cut it anymore, because it's those same people now who refuse to kick up a fuss about the Wo(S)D which are aiding and abetting this racist-by-design policy. This is a lot more important than a seat on a bus. An entire generation has been deliberately decimated while the 'leadership' sat on their backsides and made sure they got theirs.Until some new leadership shows up...those that have been the subject of recent police harassment based upon the drug laws and have educated themselves as to their origins...I don't hold out much hope for minorities in this country. The impetus for change will not come from the staid, resting-on-their-laurels-and-afraid-to-rock-the boat 'leadership' of the present.
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Comment #52 posted by goneposthole on July 29, 2002 at 07:06:25 PT
Abercrombie and Fitch Sucks
worse than Walmart.Cannabis is available to use for medicine, recreation and food, too.Who can we thank for that?
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Comment #51 posted by Zero_G on July 28, 2002 at 10:59:53 PT
Getting better all the time...
In his lifetime, John Lennon evolved in his thinking and writing especially in the women's rights area.It's quite a journey from Run For Your Life to Women is the Nigger of the World.I've heard Josh White Jr., speaking about his father's body of work, deal with the issue of misogeny, and why he rarely performs his fathers' songs, while still loving and respecting him.I cannot speak for Snoop Dogg, but, if we speak with him in dialog, perhaps we can influence his evolution. 
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on July 28, 2002 at 10:08:34 PT
Just a Note
I'm having satellite problems and I will get articles posted if we can get this fixed or I will get an isp connection going again. I'm sorry but I'm really trying and not getting anywhere. I'll be back. 
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Comment #49 posted by VitaminT on July 28, 2002 at 08:55:49 PT
Sorry folks!
I don't know how that happened?????
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Comment #48 posted by VitaminT on July 28, 2002 at 08:50:47 PT
No flames for you John Tyler.
You're right.Julian Bond (former Cocaine user) won't call the drug war by it's name, but he'll give a speech hitting all the salient points of the Racism = War-on-Drugs linkage.He'll do anything to preserve what's left of his political capital within the "conservative" NAACP.Clarence Page has no such encumberances. And he's whitebread enough for Phil Donahue viewers.
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Comment #47 posted by whatever on July 28, 2002 at 08:23:16 PT
Method Man and Snoop
would make the worst guests for a debate on marijuana. Why would you want people who openly view women as bitches and prostitutes to debate on marijuana? Just because they have a few songs on marijuana? :rolleyes: 
They are too emotional and would get played by their opponents like a fiddle into revealing their ignorance. I would rather have somebody knowldegeable on the subject of marijuana debate with the figures and statistics to back them up rather than a couple of rap artists.
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Comment #46 posted by puff_tuff on July 28, 2002 at 08:16:37 PT
Heads Up....Dennis Miller Live
Asa Hutchinson will be the guest on Dennis Miller Live this Friday August 2, 2002 on HBO.The show is aired at various times.HBO Schedule
http://www.hbo.com/NASApp/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&ID=91993
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Comment #45 posted by VitaminT on July 28, 2002 at 08:07:50 PT
No flames for you John Tyler.
You're right.Julian Bond (former Cocaine user) won't call the drug war by it's name, but he'll give a speech hitting all the salient points of the Racism = War-on-Drugs linkage.He'll do anything to preserve what's left of his political capital within the "conservative" NAACP.Clarence Page has no such encumberances. And he's whitebread enough for Phil Donahue viewers.
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Comment #44 posted by boppy on July 28, 2002 at 07:53:06 PT
Be-Bop-A-Lula
Yes, Zero_G it was the lyrics to Be-Bop-A-Lula by Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps that Steve read (I have that on tape) and it was funny. I love the song but I loved the joke too. It's too bad that Louie Armstrong is no longer around to speak up about the subject of cannabis. He was a regular cannabis user and a man who performed for several US presidents. The word genius gets tossed around freely these days but he certainly was a musical genius. Cannabis certainly didn't effect his ability any (except maybe in a good way).
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Comment #43 posted by John Tyler on July 28, 2002 at 07:06:04 PT
NAACP etc.
I don't think the NAACP, many black leader, or black organizations in general want to get into the drug war debate. It is too controversial for them. They are established. They want to protect their position. You will probably want to flame me for this, but I think they have either been bougth off or sold out. Nothing against them personally, stuff just happens that way. It's easy to be bold and daring when you have nothing to lose.
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Comment #42 posted by Robbie on July 28, 2002 at 01:10:26 PT
so what, what?
I like indo, but I'm not big on screwdrivers ;-)
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Comment #41 posted by Industrial Strength on July 28, 2002 at 00:56:30 PT
indo
and so what?
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Comment #40 posted by Robbie on July 28, 2002 at 00:50:30 PT:
Snoop
Rollin down the streetSmokin' endosippin' on gin and juicelaid back with muh mind on my money and my money on my mind
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Comment #39 posted by Industrial Strength on July 28, 2002 at 00:44:59 PT
Snoop
I saw him on politically incorrect and he didn't speak at all. There is such a thing as just smoking too much pot. I could think of many, many better representatives for our cause. I think facts and statistics and a well rounded knowledge of the subject would be fitting, as opposed to someone who just smokes an obscene amount of pot. It's not really "the young people" that need convincing, or at least the ones that do are not going to give a rapper much credibility. Rap music is some of the rawest, purest and somtimes funniest and cleverest manifestation of expression out there, but so what? How does that relate to expressing our cause? Knowledge IS power.
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Comment #38 posted by Zero_G on July 27, 2002 at 23:51:38 PT
Talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! we wuz articulate alright.Did you ever hear the Steve Allen bit where he reads lyrics to rock songs in straight voice?But we moved the consciousness of a nation, and quite frankly, were brutalized, pastuerized and ultimately homogenized into the mainstream...This is not a disparagement of the true poetic genius of Dylan, Lennon, name your fave...and Don't get fooled again...
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Comment #37 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 23:27:44 PT
I usually don't watch Reality TV
But looking at the faces of those miners as they're brought up is giving me goosebumps. One of them was smiling! His teeth looked so white in contrast to his dirty face.
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Comment #36 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 23:03:33 PT
I like Snoop Dog
I felt really bad that people thought I was slamming those guys. I know it had to piss people off if they thought I was calling those guys stupid. These bastards that threaten my freedom are the stupid ones.Snoop was on the cover of High Times last month.Bow wow wow, yippee oh, yippie ay, Snoop Dog's definitely in the house.
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Comment #35 posted by Zero_G on July 27, 2002 at 22:54:31 PT
BGreen
nice chops...Now, it's turned into some "We're with you, E_Johnson" thing.Actually, I was trying to show that persons who disagree about many things, such as myself and E_J, if you've followed the other threads, could find mutual agreeable points. Sorry to have involved you, at all. I understand your desire for articulate representation - but, we are already convinced. If a Snoop Dogg can bring an audience into effective activism, I say go for it. And yes, I admire him for the Puff Puff Pass tour. I know he was harassed at least once along the way.
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Comment #34 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 22:50:03 PT
#4 is out
They just started showing the rescue live on CNN.
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Comment #33 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 22:42:18 PT
Yeah, it's nice to see some good news
They've pulled two of them out. It's really a miracle. Standing on stage with a guitar can be frightening, but their job takes guts. I couldn't imagine being trapped underground.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 20:49:29 PT
Off Topic Good News
All 9 miners are alive! I like to share good news.
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 20:37:45 PT
An Idea
I was just thinking if it would be possible to see if The Kubby's could be beamed in by satellite to talk on Donahue.Just an idea.
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Comment #30 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 20:29:35 PT
The civil rights movement
If it weren't for white people joining together with the blacks, I don't think the civil rights movement would have been as successful. It didn't matter to many whites what the black man thought. I know that there are many bigots out there today that feel the same way.I've been quiet about my past, because I don't want to give out too much info, but I've had the opportunity to study with many world class musicians. Two of those were guitarists Herb Ellis and Barney Kessel. Do a search for them on allmusic.com if you've never heard of them. They were playing and recording back in the 40's and 50's when they couldn't use the same door or stay at the same hotels as their band mates when they played in the south.I learned so much about tolerance from these GREAT jazz musicians, and to me, color, age or what sex they are or are attracted to makes no difference, it's all about the music, man.Hip hop is the biggest selling genre of music. To say we need to give these guys a microphone ignores their ability to say their piece in their music. I'll probably never have the ear of as many people as Snoop or Method Man, but if they can't get the message across in their music, why should we assume that they can be effective in a format that's not their forte?
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 18:51:54 PT
EJ I Understand
I don't know anything about music other then classic rock. I want Donahue to have someone one that can handle who will be on on the other side. Gary Johnson, Bill Maher or Keith Stroup can take on Hutchinson or Walters and hold their own. Maybe Snoop Dog needs to find a way for people like me to know about their activism. Even my sister recognized Gary Johnson and Keith Stroup and I know she will watch the program. That's nothing against Method Man and Snoop Dog. I just don't know them.
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Comment #28 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 18:32:48 PT
Race has to be a discussable subject
It's impossible to discuss how race figures into the WOD if the questioning of racial attiudes and assumptions is equated with a charge of being a racist.BUT back to Snoop Dogg. Snoop had enough courage to name his tour Puff Puff Pass. Marijuana etiqutte, an affirmation of the value of communal cooperation. That's sort of like the opposite of Shoot Each Other Dead. I have never heard him being given the opportunity to speak on marijuana reform. I'm not really a rap fan but even so I think the man is brilliant at what he does. Rap is the continuation of the spoken word. Poetry is almost a dead culture amongst American intellectuals but here is a young man who has made a huge cultural impact by being excellent at the rhymed and spoken word.Someone ought to give him a chance to speak on the subject of weed in a forum like Donahue.The one thing I did read that he said, "There's two things I love -- Jesus and weed" wouldn't win an intellectual debate, but we have won intellectual debates and lost policy decisions for 150 years now.Loving Jesus and weed together scores big in the religious debate, a side that our best intellectuals tend to fall short on.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 17:20:07 PT
Who Would Make People Understand The Best?
I see this is a hot potato and I want to stay out of it pretty much. I don't know who Method Man is. I've heard of Snoop Dog but don't even know what they do. I think they must be musicians but I don't know. What I'd like to see is who would do the best for our side on the Donahue Show. 
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Comment #26 posted by Nuevo Mexican on July 27, 2002 at 16:45:17 PT
I misunderstood you BGreen
And I feel my comments don't accurately reflect my true feelings either! Words don't get it, so lets dance around the DEA until it falls down! Actions are better than words!
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Comment #25 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 16:18:42 PT
I'm back
This was all a misunderstanding. I think you're right, a balanced panel of different races, ages, and occupations, representing the true diversity of the cannabis user is needed. In my heart I know that I don't represent the person I came across as.
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Comment #24 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 16:13:22 PT
Method Man, Hillary Black and Dr. Ethan
Dr. Ethan knows marijuana science in real life, Hilary Black runs a medical marijuana club in real life, and Method Man played the first medical marijuana provider and marijuana science student to be depicted in a Hollywood film.That to me sounds like a good show. 
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Comment #23 posted by VitaminT on July 27, 2002 at 16:09:02 PT
don't count on NAACP.
At the recent NAACP conference, they danced around the issue but nobody had the guts to say that the War on Drugs replaced Jim Crow. Like Jim Crow replaced slavery.The War on Drugs provides White government the power to incarcerate Brown people.Since racism is built into the institutions of prohibition enforcement, individuals fighting the war don't need to be racists because they're just doing their jobs.
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Comment #22 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 15:51:20 PT
Prohibition is not based on reason 
It is a fallacy to believe that a bunch of politically educated people who win points in intellectual debates will change marijuana prohibition.There never was an intellectual debate to start marijuana prohibition, and every intellectual debate of the past has utterly failed to arrest its progress.We have had over 150 years of intellectual debate about marijuana in the Western world --- and prohibition has lost every such debate -- yet now college students get their financial aid yanked and ther drivers licenses pulled for getting caught with pocket residue.It's about fucking time to let the people who say "you know what I'm saying" after every sentence have a chance at the mic, bro.
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Comment #21 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 15:48:07 PT
I can't win
I didn't say that, either, but I'm finished.
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Comment #20 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 15:45:36 PT
But um ... 
You are still arguing that black people shouldn't be on the program?Because MTV censors hip hop culture?At least hip hop culture is there to be censored.
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Comment #19 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 15:39:07 PT
Yeah, let's get all the people
who've allowed their videos to be censored by MTV be our spokespeople.Articulate spokespeople is what we need, regardless of color. All the rappers and all their fans haven't done much to change the situation, have they?I see unqualified spokespeople get crucified on the news shows, and that has been our problem in the past. The producers will purposefully get unqualified people, knowing that we'll look like fools.This whole thing came out of E_Johnson mis-reading my post. Now, it's turned into some "We're with you, E_Johnson" thing.We can't convince the voters with somebody who adds "you know what I'm saying" after every sentence, regardless of their color or hipness.
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Comment #18 posted by Zero_G on July 27, 2002 at 15:30:40 PT
BGreen
There are audiences, and then there are audiences. Voices which reach you, may not resonate with others, and we need to reach all ears.Which is not to say that I in any way consider you racist, and I understand your being offended at the implication.Let Asa and Walters make fools of themselves, as they do everytime they open their mouths. Regardless who they debate.
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Comment #17 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 15:26:53 PT
The NAACP is ready to rebel
There was an article in Salon about how the NAACP is trying to be more responsive to the concerns of the hip hop generation such as the "incarceration issue".I took that to mean the NAACP is under prssure from the hip hop generation to take a stand on marijuana legalization.Having people like Dre and Snoop and Method Man on Donohue would help that happen sooner rather than later.
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Comment #16 posted by Zero_G on July 27, 2002 at 15:19:39 PT
E_J
I'm with you on this one.Let as many voices and cultures be heard - end the demonization of the "other".And may I have the pleasure of a dance at the Revolution.
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Comment #15 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 15:19:34 PT
I said THE OPPOSITION was stupid
I'm sorry if you thought I said Method Man and Snoop dog were the stupid people. I never considered them to be Keith Stroups' opposition. The opposition is Asa, John's #1 and #2, etc. It takes a special kind of articulate person to overcome their bullshit, and by getting somebody not qualified to speak on my behalf, it'd be like them getting ME to go on Donahue and looking like a fool.
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Comment #14 posted by Nuevo Mexican on July 27, 2002 at 15:18:47 PT
I'll take Dr. Dre any day!!!
Rappers have credibility with me! Keith Stroup is awesome as well, but hip is everything, and Keith is hip to the truth about Cannabis, but with youth culture, you have to look the part to be believable, and we want the kids to understand what the old folks have mostly forgotten: If your cool, and look 'cool' as well, your taking a risk, if not, get out of the way! Where do you think the word 'Hippie' came from, being straight looking? Remember Hendrix: 'If six were nine'
WHITE COLLARED CONSERVATIVE FLASHING DOWN THE STREET
POINTING THEIR PLASTIC FINGER AT ME
THEY'RE HOPING SOON MY KIND WILL DROP AND DIE
BUT I'M GONNA WAVE MY FREAK FLAG HIGH, HIGH!WAVE ON, WAVE ONSomething about the way we dress affects is the strangest ways! The way you look is a political statement, and to have credibility, you have to stand up for your beliefs, and using Cannabis usually relaxes oneself, and the clothes you wear reflex your state of mind. Do we really want to emulate the very people we abhor? I personally don't care what others wear or look like, as long as I'm not being judged for my appearance. Prohibition is race related first, and secondly, related to marginalizing people who dare be 'themselves'. A lesson is being taught to those 'suits' who control the world. Dress comfortably, and act comfortably. Dress uptight, act uptight. As a teenager, someone like Jimi had a thousand times more credibility with me than any conservative looking person could ever have. Remember how controversial the Beatles collarless jackets and tight pants, Beatle boots, and 'long hair' were in 63? When they went Nehru, the press turned on them and shortly after, John Lennon was crucified! JUST FOR BEING AN INDIVIDUAL! Can't have that now can we? Who cares what the suits think! They are servants of the people, so maybe they are just trying to appear servant-like for Salesman-like credibility. I'll take a long white robe with sandals if it pisses someone off enough! Then people will be talking about your life for centuries! 
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Comment #13 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 15:12:52 PT
You've proven in the past
the willingness to jump on me for things I've never said. You didn't come out and directly call me a racist, but you danced around it quite expertly.I didn't "fly off the handle" and get "defensive," I just corrected your implication that my statement was about "blacks." I never said that, you did, and just because the two musicians I mentioned were black, I wasn't even thinking about race. I could have said Kid Rock and Eminem. Say what you will, but when it's regarding a post I made, and you misrepresent what I said, I'll tell you about it, regardless of whether you think I should.
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Comment #12 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 15:08:32 PT
What makes you think they are dumb?
Do you really seriously believe that a stupid person can succeed and make money in the music business the way Snoop has?Yeah he's about as dumb as Madonna and Bono, right.
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Comment #11 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 15:02:04 PT
Sensitive spot?
Well I never said you were a racist.Everywhere we go, the official spokespeople for marijuana liberation don't look a bit like the average marijuana prisoner.Isn't it time that the people saying legalize marijuana look more like the people who are serving the time for it?If people can't deal with that without flying off the handle and getting defensive, then the movement is still a long way from being able to overcome prohibition.Marijuana prohibition in America is primarily about race, and it can't be dealt with until that problem is admitted and addressed as well.
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Comment #10 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 14:58:39 PT
Does marijuana make you black?
This was what Method Man alleged in How High, was it not?That was an interesting argument in that film.The uptight Oreo prohibitionist wannabe became black for a night when he ate some loaded brownies. He remembered how to dance and the big bug up his ass smothered to death.Anslinger's main obsession was jazz culture. Jazz culture was founded and led by intelligent black men and women who smoked weed. Targeting marijuana and targeting those people were the same thing to him. They both presented the same danger to him -- but what danger was it, exactly?Were they afraid that marijuana made white people like black music and in a world where race loyalty mattered above all -- effectively made them black?The prohibitionists have been successfully projecting the racist underestimation of black intelligence onto marijuana consumers of all races.That's why they keep saying weed makes you dumb even in the face of Carl Sagan.They are really saying weed makes you black and recycling the old racist idea that being black makes you dumb.How High was actually a pretty smart film in between all of those asses flying around.But -- free your ass, and your mind will follow.I don't want a revolution I can't dance to.
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Comment #9 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 14:52:16 PT
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT
I take great offence at that, E_Johnson! I don't give a damn what color a person is, and I'm incredibly pissed that you're portraying me as a racist.I'm a musician, and I've been the only white person in, not only the band, but in the entire venue. I'm well respected by all races in the music business.I was just stating that we need somebody experienced in the bullshit slinging that the criminalizers are experts at.You're not the only educated, intelligent person in here, E_Johnson, so you don't hold the single viewpoint that all others must adhere to.That being said, I'll finish this with this statement:I respect you and your experience, knowledge, and compassion for the sick. This is where it ends. No hard feelings on my part.Shake hands and forget.
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Comment #8 posted by E_Johnson on July 27, 2002 at 14:37:41 PT
Yeah let's not let any black people speak
Gee it's not like marijuana prohibition has anything to do with race.I mean, hell, it's mostly upper middle class white people who are paying the heavy price for these obscene laws, right?Driving while white -- that's a huge problem in America.You notice how the sight of Abercrombie and Fitch makes any cop smell weed, right?
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Comment #7 posted by BGreen on July 27, 2002 at 14:25:34 PT
The choice of guests will make all the difference
If he gets Method Man and Snoop Dog, we're screwed. Keith Stroup has proven his ability to make the opposition look like they are ... stupid.
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Comment #6 posted by VitaminT on July 27, 2002 at 14:18:47 PT
You can make that 2 of us!
I'd like to see Hillary Black and Dr. Ethan Russo.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 13:52:42 PT
A Suggestion
I think we should send Phil Donahue a thank you note for bringing us this program. I know I will! 
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 13:50:14 PT
VitaminT
Thanks! It should be great! I wonder who the guests will be?
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Comment #3 posted by VitaminT on July 27, 2002 at 13:47:12 PT
way to go FoM!
I was just about to send you that link! :)
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on July 27, 2002 at 13:41:13 PT
Heads Up - Monday, July 29th  Phil Donahue
Next Week: Legalize Marijuana? 
MONDAY, JULY 298:00 P.M. ET Phil tackles the topic of marijuana. Should pot be legalized as medicine? Or should it be just plain legal? 
 http://www.msnbc.com/news/DONAHUE_Front.asp
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Comment #1 posted by p4me on July 27, 2002 at 13:00:19 PT
mixed messages
The tougher approach follows criticism... giving a "mixed message" to youngsters, many of whom assumed cannabis had been legalised.What is it with the message crap. There are multiple messages on every subject so why not MJ. This is only going to say to the majority of people that want outright legalization anyway, that we have got to go for full legalization and the laws are stupid and unjust. There have been studies after studies since the Laguardia Commission that have called for legalization and the corrupted bureaucrats have not listened. Britain is about to be shown some attitude and the gutless politicians that do not want to do the right thing are going to be swept out of office.You know there are people that are writing this stuff down even though it is hard to believe that they could have really come up with the absurd policy that they did increasing selling pot to 14 years in a make believe empty jail cell. The UK politicians have shown incompetence as well as their ass in this latest evolution toward marijuana sanity.As long as marijuana is illegal there will always be mixed messages to the children so maybe they should abolish children. 1,2
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