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  Bill Would End Seizure of Drug Suspects' Assets
Posted by FoM on February 08, 2001 at 07:14:44 PT
By David Postman, Seattle Times Political Reporter 
Source: Seattle Times 

justice Lawmakers representing a wide swath of the political spectrum say they want to end the state program that allows police to seize cars, boats, cash and homes from suspected drug dealers and use the assets to enforce drug laws.

In the past eight years, drug-related property seizures have brought in more than $43.5 million to local police departments and state anti-drug programs.

Senate Bill 5935, which is to be introduced today, would allow assets to be taken only after a conviction. It would also require that property taken by police be spent only on drug-treatment programs, not law-enforcement agencies.

The bill is being promoted by the ACLU, which has long objected to the property-forfeiture laws.

"It represents one more facet of a cancer on our society - the perversion of our justice system under our drug laws," said Gerard Sheehan, a lobbyist for the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Law-enforcement officials were quick to condemn the proposal. They say that losing property is a suitable punishment for those suspected of drug-related crimes. And the money has become essential for police departments trying to stay on top of rising drug crimes while dealing with tighter budgets.

"That'd put us out of business," said Tacoma police spokesman Jim Mattheis.

Lawmakers, however, say police departments have become overly dependent on money from drug-related seizures. They think it's unfair for police to take property from someone who has not been convicted of a crime.

"Everybody deserves their day in court," said Dan Swecker, R-Rochester, one of 10 co-sponsors of the bill.

Washington's seizure law dates from the 1970s. But it was changes in 1992 that made it easier for police to take property and required detailed reporting of property forfeitures.

The law requires that 10 percent go to the state for a special drug-education account. Police can keep the other 90 percent to help pay to enforce drug laws. Cars seized are sometimes used by undercover officers. Other assets are sold at auction with the proceeds funding department operations.

The law allows police to seize property if there is probable cause to believe it was used, or was intended to be used, in the manufacture, sale or shipment of drugs. Police can also take any asset that they suspect was paid for with earnings from drug sales.

Former Spokane Sheriff Larry Erickson said yesterday his department once took a Hawaii condominium and a yacht from a man he described as a cocaine broker. No drugs were actually found on the man's property.

"It's a penalty against those people who are preying on our children," said Erickson, executive director of the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs. "One of the best tools we have is to take assets that were gotten illegally."

He said that drug dealers have told him that losing their assets hurts more than short stays in prison.

In recent years there has been a backlash led by civil libertarians on the left and right.

It's also a major thrust of the drug-reform movement, the effort to reduce criminal penalties on drug use.

Voters in Oregon and Utah approved citizens initiatives in November rewriting property-forfeiture laws.

The Oregon measure amended the state constitution to require that a property owner be convicted of a crime before property can be seized. The assets would go to treatment and drug-education programs, not law enforcement.

In Utah, the initiative requires prosecutors to show "clear and convincing evidence" that property was involved in crime.

The measures were funded by some of the same people who have financed initiatives here and elsewhere to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes.

The ACLU-backed bill here includes some of the Senate's most liberal and most conservative members - from Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, to Sen. Val Stevens, R-Arlington.

"I think there's pretty widespread concern over pre-conviction asset forfeiture," said Sen. Dow Constantine, D-West Seattle, prime sponsor of the bill. "It just rubs people the wrong way."

His proposal would require that before property can be taken, someone must be convicted of a crime and that the property be found "by clear and convincing evidence to have been instrumental in committing or facilitating the crime."

The state drug-education fund would still get the 10 percent required under current law. But the remaining money would have to be used exclusively for drug treatment.

Stevens said she thinks the current law leads police to temptation. She says they could be making arrests because of the assets they could get.

"You are placing law enforcement in the position of tempting themselves with what they maybe aren't able to resist," she said. "I'm not accusing them. I'm just saying they could be tempted."

Sheehan, the ACLU lobbyist, called money from seized assets "loot." He told a House committee yesterday that the money is being "derived from theft." That angered law-enforcement officials. "We're not corrupt. We're not thieves," Erickson told members of the State Government Committee. "We don't sneak around in the middle of the night taking your property."

King County Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. John Urquhart said in an interview that police do like to go after the money --- but not for what Stevens thinks.

"Is it tempting sometimes to target drug dealers who have a lot of money? It is," he said. "But not to get the money. It's because you can hit them where it hurts. You can take away the motive for them to be in business."

Information from Seattle Times computer-assisted reporting specialist Justin Mayo was used in this report.

David Postman can be reached at 360-943-9882 or by e-mail at: dpostman@seattletimes.com

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Author: David Postman, Seattle Times Political Reporter
Published: February 8, 2001
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Comment #13 posted by mungojelly on February 09, 2001 at 04:46:27 PT:

aren't they supposed to lie?
"They say that losing property is a suitable punishment for those suspected of drug-related crimes." -- Suspected? Listen, aren't you supposed to lie? Do you really think you can just come out and say something like that? "We think that it is appropriate to punish people for a crime without actually convicting them of one. We think the Constitution was a waste of paper."

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Comment #12 posted by Frank on February 08, 2001 at 16:42:32 PT
"We're not corrupt" -- Don't Believe It.
Sheehan, the ACLU lobbyist, called money from seized assets "loot." He told a House committee yesterday that the money is being "derived from theft." That angered law-enforcement officials. "We're not corrupt. We're not thieves," Erickson told members of the State Government Committee.

I don’t know what planet this policeman is from but it’s not Earth. The police in the community were I live in are vary dangerous. They frequently beat, rob or murder people. If a policeman stops you where I live you had better be extremely careful. Here the police are much more dangerous than the criminals are. When they kill someone the standard police response is, “I felt my life was threatened”. This is a standard response that seems to cover any and all situations. The “Internal Affaires” reviews are nothing but a white wash. The police department is riddled with corruption -- beware! This is the truth.

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Comment #11 posted by aocp on February 08, 2001 at 12:42:29 PT:

Retch
"It's a penalty against those people who are preying on our children," said Erickson, executive director of the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs. "One of the best tools we have is to take assets that were gotten illegally."

So how is waiting for a conviction a problem for you thugs, unless you actually enjoy stealing from people without due process?

He said that drug dealers have told him that losing their assets hurts more than short stays in prison.

Probably. This still does not explain how getting an actual-factual conviction before taking somebody's stuff is a problem. Sheesh.

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Comment #10 posted by tokin4ever on February 08, 2001 at 11:53:46 PT
fake!!
and some cops probably claim to smell pot if they see a very wealthy person, think of how much money they could make simply by saying "..i smelled pot" and they would be able to seize property without conviction or evidence.

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Comment #9 posted by tokin4ever on February 08, 2001 at 11:50:49 PT:

only care about the money
"that'd put us out of business"
see, all they really care about is keeping their jobs and making money, their jobs depend on innocent people losing everything and being incarcerated, simply for smoking a plant that is safer than the cigarrettes that they probably smoke.


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Comment #8 posted by tokin4ever on February 08, 2001 at 11:50:25 PT:

only care about the money
"that'd put us out of business"
see, all they really care about is keeping their jobs and making money, their jobs depend on innocent people losing everything and being incarcerated, simply for smoking a plant that is safer than the cigarrettes that they probably smoke.


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Comment #7 posted by sm247 on February 08, 2001 at 11:12:25 PT
ACLU Rocks !!
Gimme an A
gimmee a C
gimmee a L
gimmee a U
Whats that spell F-R-E-E-D-O-M


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Comment #6 posted by meagain on February 08, 2001 at 11:08:47 PT
Due process?
Police can also take any asset that they suspect was paid for with earnings from drug sales.

There is a key word here "suspect" and that in no way shape or form represents "due process"



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Comment #5 posted by Duzt on February 08, 2001 at 11:07:29 PT
Interesting....
"That'd put us out of business," said Tacoma police spokesman Jim Mattheis. Well it's about time they admitted it, they are a business, pure and simple. Problem with businesses like there's is that their customers are forced to do business with them. Let them keep talking, they'll keep putting their foots in their mouths.

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Comment #4 posted by Duzt on February 08, 2001 at 11:07:26 PT
Interesting....
"That'd put us out of business," said Tacoma police spokesman Jim Mattheis. Well it's about time they admitted it, they are a business, pure and simple. Problem with businesses like there's is that their customers are forced to do business with them. Let them keep talking, they'll keep putting their foots in their mouths.

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Comment #3 posted by Dave in Florida on February 08, 2001 at 10:27:31 PT
Stealing, Plain & Simple
Law-enforcement officials were quick to condemn the proposal. They say that losing property is a suitable punishment for those suspected of drug-related crimes. And the money has become essential for police departments trying to stay on top of rising drug crimes while dealing with tighter budgets.

I thought jail was the punishment. Sounds like they want to punish more than people deserve. And then eliminate their right to vote the bastards out office as well. Three punishments for smoking a plant. Talk about absurd.

Police can also take any asset that they suspect was paid for with earnings from drug sales.

Sounds like stealing to me.

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Comment #2 posted by Kevin Hebert on February 08, 2001 at 08:51:48 PT:

Keep it up
It is things like this that show you, people really do have the power. Our elected officials cannot stop the will of the people. We will remove them from office and we will vote referenda to achieve our goal of ending this horrible drug war. It is a time-consuming, aggravating process, but it will work. And if current politicians don't like it, well, they can enjoy a nice long retirement once we have voted them out of government for their inability to see the truth right before their eyes.

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Comment #1 posted by zenarch on February 08, 2001 at 07:34:29 PT
Then he should have no problem with the new law!
King County Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. John Urquhart said . . . . "Is it tempting sometimes to target drug dealers who have a lot of money? It is," he said. "But not to get the money. It's because you can hit them where it hurts. You can take away the motive for them to be in business."

. . . . Of course if he really wanted "take away the motive" he'd support legalization and put those meanies right out of business!


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